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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby rspann » September 18th, 2019, 1:14 pm

V11 yes they are pests and should be gotten rid of, but I know what I'm saying from personal experience and you know it too. Can't run after them shooting, gotta control your anger. I only glad that in my case the imps didn't want me to call police, he say he go take what he get, and was carried away by his two friends.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby VII » September 18th, 2019, 1:44 pm

rspann wrote:V11 yes they are pests and should be gotten rid of, but I know what I'm saying from personal experience and you know it too. Can't run after them shooting, gotta control your anger. I only glad that in my case the imps didn't want me to call police, he say he go take what he get, and was carried away by his two friends.



Boy I had a couple incidents,including rescuing my neighbors at 1 am ,holding a bandit till police arrived after the robbed an old lady in town,tracked and intercepted him close to the jail,and just left when the police arrived,sometimes I ask myself if its all worth it defending strangers,but I can't seem to stop..but not gonna ever put myself or anyone in danger doing that again,gotta be a clear advantage or life and death situation,well for home anything move is night vision...ran into the dark for my neighbors a few years ago,I could've been their dead hero..and trust me it wouldn't have been worth it..

Had a thing with my new evo in 2001 and the guy made it to hospital after running
into a curb and abandoning the car bleeding profously,he told police he was robbed and shot in town and don't know bout no car-jacking ,I didn't pursue the matter because dey tell me "hard luck dey de yute man ain't know it was you and is ah cool scene ".

Repair bill was 100k ,parts hard to find at the time so new car park up months upon months,lost my insurance and became the subject of enthusiastic insurance investigators...

The same guy died a few years after killed by security robbing a coke truck in Diego..

Was it worth it?

Boy and as I get older I'm more leaning to self and family preservation/reservation because people ungrateful and nasty bad,but having said that it would be hard not to intervene in an unjust situation that I could probably handle..

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby Ben_spanna » September 18th, 2019, 2:11 pm

all ill say is dead pests dont talk and cannot deny what story is being told!!! get rid of them by any means, create your truth protect yourself and tuh hell with criminals and their worthless lives.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » October 27th, 2019, 4:38 pm

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CCTV footage shows an off-duty cop take control of a situation and open fire on robbers at a burger joint in Central Brazil.

In the ensuing chaos approximately 10 shots were fired yet no injuries were reported, according to Brazilian Military Police. The suspects fled the scene without a dime (a real, actually).


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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » March 13th, 2021, 9:43 am

this already in the badits shot and killed thread, but it should be here too.
the prison officer wasnt there in an official capacity, was there prolly just as a citizen, average citizen doing citizen things.
the best response by official authorities is 5 mins after. it takes a lot less time to pull the trigger. u cant station a police near to every citizen, so might as well give them the trigger.



newsday wrote:Bandit shot dead after Barrackpore robbery
Laurel V Williams Tuesday 9 March 2021


Police detained an 18-year-old woman in relation to a robbery just minutes after an off-duty prison officer shot and killed a bandit in Barrackpore on Tuesday.

Police said the teenager, who lives at Tarodale, on the outskirts of San Fernando, was the getaway driver in an armed robbery at Carmen’s Roti Shop at Rochard Douglas Road in Barrackpore.

Police identified the deceased as Dane Boodoo of Stella Street in La Romaine. In the past, Boodoo and the detained woman had bought roti from the shop, police said.

Up to Tuesday evening, Southern Division police were searching for a male accomplice.

A police report said at about 11.30 am, the 61-year-old roti shop owner Carmen Khan was sweeping at the back of the shop where she spotted two men.

She went inside and locked the back door. The men accosted her 35-year-old son, who was at the front. One had a gun.

A struggle ensued, and the frightened mother ran to the front and screamed out for help.

On hearing the owner alerting passers-by, one bandit ran across the road to Sumanie Trace where the woman was waiting in a car. Boodoo, the other man, grabbed a sum of cash before following his accomplice but the prison officer had been alerted and one of the two men opened fire at him.

The 53-year-old returned fire, hitting Boodoo in his upper body. The other ran off in some nearby bushes.

The woman got out of the driver's seat, thinking the prison officer was a policeman.

In less than five minutes, officers from Praedial Larceny Squad (PLS) in Craignish Village Princes Town were on the scene. Insp Phillip of San Fernando CID, Insp Lewis of Barrackpore, and officers from Area East Crime Patrol responded and searched for the accomplice.

Newsday spoke to the roti shop owner who said she thought the men were going to kill her son and now fears for her life.

Carmen, right, the owner of Carmen's roti shop on Rochard Douglas Road, Barrackpore had to be assisted by a neighbour after she suffered injuries when two bandits robbed her and her son.

"When they grabbed him, they ripped his jersey in pieces. My son does not drink or smoke. We work very hard. I thought they were going to kill him," she said as she wiped away tears.

She injured her feet while running to alert passers-by. She said her son tried to defend himself with either a knife or a piece of wood.

"They slammed him on top of the counter. He is in plenty of pain," she said.

Khan said her husband died on July 15, 2020, from cancer. She recalled that in 2009, bandits beat the family during a home invasion and stole several items. She was too emotional to give further details.

Investigations continue.



another note, the officer wasnt on a road block/stop and search. road block is not crime fighting. but patrols, having a regular presence in all the areas, observing what going on, will do a lot more to deter and respond to instances of criminal activity.
roadblock is just tax collection.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby redmanjp » March 13th, 2021, 2:34 pm

Yes and 5 mins is the least amount of time, most times police show up half an hour or more when you dead already, to actually prevent the crime from taking place we need armed responsible citizens.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby alfa » March 13th, 2021, 2:39 pm

redmanjp wrote:Yes and 5 mins is the least amount of time, most times police show up half an hour or more when you dead already, to actually prevent the crime from taking place we need armed responsible citizens.

When seconds matter the police are only minutes away

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » August 26th, 2021, 9:25 am

yeah, we know. but if have good enough strings, u could pretend

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby Redman » August 26th, 2021, 9:39 am

It is Williams who introduced the constitution into the discussion..Not Griffith...based on what I read.

Incidentally this am 95.5 Martin Daly s indicated that Griffith's statements are not implying a constitutional right-but a REVOCABLE right as a result of a license granted.

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/08/25/ex-act ... nd-tobago/

Our law states the eligibility to have a firearm. If persons adhere to all the requirements, it is their right to be issued with a firearm."

He said no commissioner must "play God" to deny law-abiding citizens guns, based on a CoP's own feeling that only the police must have guns.

"You cannot deprive citizens of their right because the law says for someone to have a firearm there are several stipulations you must adhere to. My point is that if you adhere to all of these stipulations, a commissioner must not be so self-centred to say that even though these persons have adhered to everything required by law that allows them to have a firearm, 'I think he should not have.' The job of the CoP is to enforce the law and if it is that specific regulations give persons an authorisation to have a firearm, then so be it."

"The law states specifically that a citizen has a right to carry a firearm if they adhere to the regulations. No commissioner should deprive citizens of that right because of his personal view."

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby 88sins » August 26th, 2021, 12:01 pm

sMASH wrote:yeah, we know. but if have good enough strings, u could pretend

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The law association doesn't not enforce, interpret, enact, draft, implement or pass legislation in this country, nor do they have the final say as regards to the interpretation and application of laws.

No, there is no constitutional right to keep and carry arm in trinidad. And it comes across as though she's of the opinion that access to legal possession of firearms should not be allowed and if it is it should be severely restricted to the extent that almost nobody has a legal firearm.

There is however the inalienable human right to defend oneself and one's property, as well as a provision in law by which one may be allowed to keep and carry arms, and said arms are considered tools that aid in the protection of oneself and one's property.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby timelapse » August 26th, 2021, 12:04 pm

She looks like her arms look like a bear

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby PariaMan » August 26th, 2021, 12:15 pm

I am certain she carries a gun yet want to deny people. I am also sure Williams carries one as well

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » August 26th, 2021, 12:18 pm

the man who answer for everything is investigations ongoing and at a sensitive stage

PariaMan wrote:I am certain she carries a gun yet want to deny people. I am also sure Williams carries one as well

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby 88sins » August 26th, 2021, 5:30 pm

Is a status symbol for them.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » February 24th, 2022, 10:45 am

There were a series of robberies in the recent times, most times police weren't able to intervene to stop the crime. Adn some they were able to apprehend the criminals, after the fact.

But here is another example of a citizen stopping the crime before the police reach.
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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby Redman » February 24th, 2022, 11:48 am

sMASH wrote:There were a series of robberies in the recent times, most times police weren't able to intervene to stop the crime. Adn some they were able to apprehend the criminals, after the fact.

But here is another example of a citizen stopping the crime before the police reach. FB_IMG_1645713739647.jpg



Nowhere in the world can police reliably intervene in a crime.
Physically impossible.

Allow suitably qualified people to arm themselves, and let the chips fall.

RIP to ms Moses.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » February 24th, 2022, 12:02 pm

them bandits treat everybody as a sitting duck

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Right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » February 24th, 2022, 1:30 pm

pugboy wrote:them bandits treat everybody as a sitting duck


No mercy and they coming hard.

Anyone saw the video of the man in Trincity that was ambushed in the carpark a few days ago?

Guy had literally 3 seconds.

If ur not running 1 UP and not a fast draw…..times up.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby hustla_ambition101 » February 24th, 2022, 1:37 pm

MaxPower wrote:
pugboy wrote:them bandits treat everybody as a sitting duck


No mercy and they coming hard.

Anyone saw the video of the man in Trincity that was ambushed in the carpark a few days ago?

Guy had literally 3 seconds.

If ur not running 1 UP and not a fast draw…..times up.
He was a perfect example of having a firearm and not knowing how/when to use it. No sense of awareness but most likely under the influence of casino alcohol.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » February 24th, 2022, 6:23 pm

hustla_ambition101 wrote:He was a perfect example of having a firearm and not knowing how/when to use it. No sense of awareness but most likely under the influence of casino alcohol.


Good point.

The man was approaching his vehicle and never even glanced at the car parked behind him in an empty car park.

As u said he was more than likely under the influence and his guard was down or he just felt “safe” which resulted in complacency.

Someone with current training could have engaged them fellas and send them home.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby Chimera » February 24th, 2022, 6:29 pm

The shitty part is everyone gets bail.

Even when they intercept and arrest..is bail and they outside.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » February 24th, 2022, 7:07 pm

If the cses get prosecuted fast enogh, the bail would not be an issue as much

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby De Dragon » February 24th, 2022, 9:32 pm

Redman wrote:
sMASH wrote:There were a series of robberies in the recent times, most times police weren't able to intervene to stop the crime. Adn some they were able to apprehend the criminals, after the fact.

But here is another example of a citizen stopping the crime before the police reach. FB_IMG_1645713739647.jpg



Nowhere in the world can police reliably intervene in a crime.
Physically impossible.

Allow suitably qualified people to arm themselves, and let the chips fall.

RIP to ms Moses.

Fully agree. Too much elitism, corruption and whim and fancy in FUL issuance, while innocent people getting shot down daily

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby hustla_ambition101 » February 25th, 2022, 9:22 am

sMASH wrote:If the cses get prosecuted fast enogh, the bail would not be an issue as much
Blame the lawyers whose job is to frustrate the system and defend their guilty clients......most times at the expense of taxpayers because is legal aid those leeches applying for

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » February 25th, 2022, 9:23 am

maybe if judges worked a full day instead of half day it would help
plus better management of judiciary in general
but the cj was more interested in other things

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » February 25th, 2022, 9:26 am

them judges does take money on the side.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » March 26th, 2022, 6:09 am

Send this to philburt and the other pacifists.


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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » March 26th, 2022, 6:31 am

Friends,

These are responsible FUL holders.

We don’t need irresponsible Trinis with firearms so let’s not use this as an excuse for a free for all.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby daring dragoon » March 26th, 2022, 6:43 am

pugboy wrote:maybe if judges worked a full day instead of half day it would help
plus better management of judiciary in general
but the cj was more interested in other things



we need to move away from lawyers and judges, we put too much into these fools from ivor to hinze to the lawyer that does hussle work outside the court. from getting a lawyer signature to buying a piece of land can be done by civil servants and there should be fixed penalties for crimes. murder = death, thief = 10 years an up in prison, rape = castrate etc. money needs to be spent instead in training police investigators to find the prisoner guilty or not, no grey areas.

certain jobs from when christ was a child need to be made obsolete such as lawyers, judges, accountants, government ministers, president.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby Ripe Chenette » March 26th, 2022, 7:28 am

daring dragoon wrote:
pugboy wrote:maybe if judges worked a full day instead of half day it would help
plus better management of judiciary in general
but the cj was more interested in other things



we need to move away from lawyers and judges, we put too much into these fools from ivor to hinze to the lawyer that does hussle work outside the court. from getting a lawyer signature to buying a piece of land can be done by civil servants and there should be fixed penalties for crimes. murder = death, thief = 10 years an up in prison, rape = castrate etc. money needs to be spent instead in training police investigators to find the prisoner guilty or not, no grey areas.

certain jobs from when christ was a child need to be made obsolete such as lawyers, judges, accountants, government ministers, president.
Me en like tha no grey area ting, with no nuance it leave room for more abuse than the system we have now.

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