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Re: Re: PNM In Gov't

Postby bluefete » April 18th, 2024, 8:19 am

mero wrote:Realise I does be missing out on all the 2nr late night /early morning raw and uncut talks yes.


Especially since daring dragoon came back. LOL.

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Re: PNM In Gov't

Postby pugboy » April 18th, 2024, 8:20 am

yeah it does be a happy hours scenes

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Re: PNM In Gov't

Postby maj. tom » April 18th, 2024, 9:11 am

It's purely a coincidence someone else start saying similar things in the Middle East thread lately too.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » April 18th, 2024, 11:20 am

The_Honourable wrote:Now i know for sure you smoking that balisier narcotic. This comment piqued my interest.

Habit7 wrote:Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better than you think and they have the same resources for their betterment just like everywhere else.


Aside from the swimming pool and the once in a decade or more painting by hdc, show me proof.

You have proof that in 1986 with the choice between Chambers and Robinson, PNM supporters chose Robinson because he was the Black one?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » April 18th, 2024, 11:24 am

Habit7 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Now i know for sure you smoking that balisier narcotic. This comment piqued my interest.

Habit7 wrote:Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better than you think and they have the same resources for their betterment just like everywhere else.


Aside from the swimming pool and the once in a decade or more painting by hdc, show me proof.

You have proof that in 1986 with the choice between Chambers and Robinson, PNM supporters chose Robinson because he was the Black one?


No no... don't deflect... your words... show me proof Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better.

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Re: PNM In Gov't

Postby Habit7 » April 18th, 2024, 11:24 am

Mmoney607 wrote:People looking like Rowley and Hinds allowed to have illegal guns to rob and kill innocent people but people find kamla leadership of the UNC is the biggest issue of the day

Is it possible to walk and chew gum simultaneously?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » April 18th, 2024, 11:41 am

The_Honourable wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Now i know for sure you smoking that balisier narcotic. This comment piqued my interest.

Habit7 wrote:Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better than you think and they have the same resources for their betterment just like everywhere else.


Aside from the swimming pool and the once in a decade or more painting by hdc, show me proof.

You have proof that in 1986 with the choice between Chambers and Robinson, PNM supporters chose Robinson because he was the Black one?


No no... don't deflect... your words... show me proof Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better.

I can't show proof that these areas are doing better than you think. I already proved that you have a wrong and diminished view of them and that they vote on based on simplistic reasoning. That is how you think. I can't change your bias.

They are doing better than that.

You are highlighting them as sufferers but as poverty distribution shows (I have seen more recent data but this 2005 data is all I have and reflects more or less the same as today) that San Juan/Laventille is not the poorest regional corp but mostly UNC areas. Yet UNC supporters love to hold up Laventille as an example of urban poverty while ignoring the poverty and lack of infrastructure that their diehard constituencies tolerate despite 62 yrs of unwavering support.

Sometimes, I wonder if they prefer to be in Opposition so that their constant excuse will be that PNM discriminating against them. Worst yet that property tax will be going directly to local govt would solve some of that, of course they will resist it. Who else would they blame for bad roads?

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https://cso.gov.tt/wp-content/uploads/2 ... Report.pdf

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Mmoney607 » April 18th, 2024, 11:41 am

People rather dead under Rowley than let kamla come into govt again boy

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » April 18th, 2024, 11:42 am

The_Honourable wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Now i know for sure you smoking that balisier narcotic. This comment piqued my interest.

Habit7 wrote:Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better than you think and they have the same resources for their betterment just like everywhere else.


Aside from the swimming pool and the once in a decade or more painting by hdc, show me proof.

You have proof that in 1986 with the choice between Chambers and Robinson, PNM supporters chose Robinson because he was the Black one?


No no... don't deflect... your words... show me proof Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better.
Doing better doesn't mean doing well I guess.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » April 18th, 2024, 11:45 am

Mmoney607 wrote:People rather dead under Rowley than let kamla come into govt again boy

Kamla's campaign promise now is immortality and ending property tax!?!

I might have to reconsider things now boy.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » April 18th, 2024, 11:47 am

Habit7 wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:People rather dead under Rowley than let kamla come into govt again boy

Kamla's campaign promise now is immortality and ending property tax!?!

I might have to reconsider things now boy.
Actually PEA platform is axe the tax. Kamla have to find something else.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » April 18th, 2024, 12:41 pm

Habit7 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Now i know for sure you smoking that balisier narcotic. This comment piqued my interest.

Habit7 wrote:Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better than you think and they have the same resources for their betterment just like everywhere else.


Aside from the swimming pool and the once in a decade or more painting by hdc, show me proof.

You have proof that in 1986 with the choice between Chambers and Robinson, PNM supporters chose Robinson because he was the Black one?


No no... don't deflect... your words... show me proof Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better.

I can't show proof that these areas are doing better than you think. I already proved that you have a wrong and diminished view of them and that they vote on based on simplistic reasoning. That is how you think. I can't change your bias.

They are doing better than that.

You are highlighting them as sufferers but as poverty distribution shows (I have seen more recent data but this 2005 data is all I have and reflects more or less the same as today) that San Juan/Laventille is not the poorest regional corp but mostly UNC areas. Yet UNC supporters love to hold up Laventille as an example of urban poverty while ignoring the poverty and lack of infrastructure that their diehard constituencies tolerate despite 62 yrs of unwavering support.

Sometimes, I wonder if they prefer to be in Opposition so that their constant excuse will be that PNM discriminating against them. Worst yet that property tax will be going directly to local govt would solve some of that, of course they will resist it. Who else would they blame for bad roads?

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https://cso.gov.tt/wp-content/uploads/2 ... Report.pdf


You can't even prove your own statement as fact despite what I and others may think.

All that spin talk you can't prove that Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better especially under the pnm.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » April 18th, 2024, 12:52 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Now i know for sure you smoking that balisier narcotic. This comment piqued my interest.

Habit7 wrote:Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better than you think and they have the same resources for their betterment just like everywhere else.


Aside from the swimming pool and the once in a decade or more painting by hdc, show me proof.

You have proof that in 1986 with the choice between Chambers and Robinson, PNM supporters chose Robinson because he was the Black one?


No no... don't deflect... your words... show me proof Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better.

I can't show proof that these areas are doing better than you think. I already proved that you have a wrong and diminished view of them and that they vote on based on simplistic reasoning. That is how you think. I can't change your bias.

They are doing better than that.

You are highlighting them as sufferers but as poverty distribution shows (I have seen more recent data but this 2005 data is all I have and reflects more or less the same as today) that San Juan/Laventille is not the poorest regional corp but mostly UNC areas. Yet UNC supporters love to hold up Laventille as an example of urban poverty while ignoring the poverty and lack of infrastructure that their diehard constituencies tolerate despite 62 yrs of unwavering support.

Sometimes, I wonder if they prefer to be in Opposition so that their constant excuse will be that PNM discriminating against them. Worst yet that property tax will be going directly to local govt would solve some of that, of course they will resist it. Who else would they blame for bad roads?

Screenshot 2024-04-18 11.29.51.png
https://cso.gov.tt/wp-content/uploads/2 ... Report.pdf


You can't even prove your own statement as fact despite what I and others may think.

All that spin talk you can't prove that Laventille, Beetham and East POS are doing better especially under the pnm.

I never said they were doing better under the PNM. I said they are doing better than you think.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Mmoney607 » April 18th, 2024, 2:32 pm

Ay those areas have a lot of entrepreneurs selling water and corn curls. And don't forget the one lawyer

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby bluefete » April 21st, 2024, 6:54 pm

So the 1% owned Guardian doing a hatchet job on the middle and lower income classes.

They want to ban Netflix so they can continue to import new cars with scarce foreign exchange and thing. Carry on.

Rowley did say there is nothing wrong with the rich getting richer.



Netflix’s popularity comes at a cost

T&T is still very much into Netflix and chill.

However, the popular streaming platform’s popularity is silently a significant extractor of local foreign exchange with T&T subscribers spending millions of US dollars annually to maintain their accounts.

Local telecoms expert, Kwesi Prescod, said no one but Netflix and its shareholders knows how many households in T&T subscribe to the streaming service, which reported on Thursday a total of 269.6 million subscriptions worldwide at the end of March, 2024. But Prescod, a telecommunications consultant, said a conservative estimate of the number of T&T households subscribing to Netflix could easily exceed 200,000.

“Given broadband penetration is 94 per cent, according to the Telecommunications Authority of T&T, and conservatively assuming even 50 per cent are Netflix subscribers, that means the number of subscribers could be 200,000 (based on 410,000 households),” said Prescod. Notably, Jamaica’s subscription number was said to be 150,000 in 2022.

Prescod based his calculation of the penetration of Netflix in T&T on the premise that evidence suggests that most of the households that have broadband access are accessing these streaming services.

“Broadband penetration is driven by streaming services, indeed the major operators offer streaming service subscriptions with their packages” he told Sunday Business on Friday, adding that some high-income households have more than two.

Prescod said that Prime, Disney +, Hulu, Max and Paramount are also available to local subscribers and these streaming services could attract another 100,000 T&T households.

Based on his conservative estimate of 200,000 Netflix subscriptions in T&T, and at a current price of US$12.99 a month, Prescod is comfortable with his estimate that T&T spends US$31,176,000 (TT$208 million) a year to access Netflix series, movies and documentaries. The five other streaming services popular in T&T would mean additional extraction of foreign exchange.

He also noted that none of the streaming services are registered as businesses in T&T, so they pay no taxes on these earnings.

Global tech giants

dominate usage

The popularity of streaming services in T&T is borne out by data provided by local telecommunication companies.

According to data provided by Amplia, in February 2024 almost 50 per cent of its internet traffic was commanded by three major players in global tech: Google, Netflix and Facebook.

Google, which owns YouTube, commanded 16.5 per cent of the traffic, with Netflix slightly behind at 16 per cent while Facebook, with 15 per cent, trailed.

Combined, these three, considered part of the big six tech companies, were responsible for 47 per cent of the traffic utilised by Amplia customers for February.

There was a similar pattern in January 2024, as these sites were once again the three largest consumers of bandwidth by Amplia customers, However in that month they accounted for 48.2 per cent of the traffic, with Google/YouTube accounting for 17 per cent with Netflix and Facebook both accounting for 15.6 per cent.


The numbers for December hit 51 per cent as Amplia customers upped their streaming during the Christmas period with Google/YouTube seeing 18.7 per cent of internet traffic, with Netflix not far behind with 18.3. Facebook remained third in consumption with 14 per cent.

However while Google/YouTube and Facebook/Meta are connected to multiple sites and social media platforms, Netflix is geared towards video streaming in particular.

Amplia confirmed that throughout the three months, Netflix usage largely peaked in the evening hours of 8 pm and 10 pm, with the typical peak usage of Netflix being approximately 28Gbps.

Amplia said peak usage and peak usage time were consistent across all three months.

When contacted, Digicel was unable to provide similar detailed numbers concerning consumption patterns on its broadband service Digicel+. However, the company said “approximately six per cent of the mobile data traffic on our network is due to Netflix.”

Digicel said, “However, we are fairly certain that on the fixed broadband side (Digicel+) it would be higher than this as most customers consume Netflix on their home TVs using their fixed connections. Unfortunately we do not have the empirical data on fixed broadband.”

Netflix’s continued dominance of local internet usage has come just a few years after there were concerns that the undisputed king of streaming might have finally lost its crown amid the surge of new services namely Disney +, HBO Max (now just Max), Apple TV, Prime Video, Paramount and Peacock.

This slippage was expected to be intensified when Netflix announced price increases and a subsequent crackdown on password sharing last year.

However internationally, Netflix could only claim to be second to one other streaming platform last year, the still largely free to the public YouTube.

T&T stayed in line with global trends as Netflix is easily the most popular subscription streaming service being used in the country. Unlike Disney+ and Max, there is no tie-in option or arrangement for local cable providers to bundle services with the streaming platform.

Local cable providers Flow and Digicel both received backlash for raising their prices in the past few years, but Netflix has also increased its subscription cost in the past year and has hinted that there may be another increase on the way.

Notably, Netflix prices are not uniform across the board, in 2023 the company dropped the prices of subscriptions in over 30 countries to maintain its subscription numbers.

While one such country which benefitted from this decision was our Caricom neighbour Jamaica, which saw subscription cost drop to US$5, T&T’s subscription cost remained at $12.99 per month.

The price in T&T is still some way off from the most expensive subscription cost in the Caribbean, which is currently held by the US Virgin Islands at US$15.49 and Barbados at US$15.29.

Regional telecoms

want ‘Fair Share’

Netflix’s subscription model, absent the ties seen by Disney+ and Max to local providers, underlined one of the concerns raised by the C9 that the company benefits from using local resources with little return.

The C9 is a CANTO Working Group of Caribbean telecommunications operators advocating for Fair Share, as the group is concerned that while these companies have consistently been reaping financial benefits in the region, regional telecommunications networks are seeing little to no returns from them.

The C9 comprises ATN International, Belize Telemedia Ltd (BTL), Cable Bahamas, Digicel, Guyana Telephone and Telegraph Company (GTT), Liberty Latin America, Telesur, The Cable in St Kitts, and Telecommunications Services of T&T (TSTT).

Earlier this year, chair of the C9 committee Lisa Agard, revealed that in 2023, the big six global tech companies—Alphabet (Google), Meta, Apple, Amazon, TikTok and Netflix—earned a combined total of US$11.5 billion in the Caribbean.

A Netflix subscription in Trinidad would require the use of foreign exchange, as the entity does not have a local arm which facilitates payments.

Agard confirmed to Guardian Media that during her stint as TSTT CEO, Amplia approached Netflix to partner with them so that local subscribers could pay the local telecommunications company TT to obtain a Netflix subscription. Netflix refused the deal, stating that its penetration in Trinidad and Tobago was already high and it did not require such an arrangement.

Netflix and the rest of the big tech companies also dominate two-thirds or 67 per cent of the region’s internet traffic and command bandwidth, which also significantly adds to costs incurred by regional providers.

Agard explained then that amid falling revenue for telecommunication operators, this situation is problematic. The C9 has continued to lobby for ongoing discussions to see how they can instead get them to invest in the region and pay their fair share to ensure these telecommunication companies can continue to provide quality service.

Local telecommunications providers had been reeling for some time as the rise in streaming and OTT services around the world had supplanted demand for cable services, while also creating increased demand for more internet bandwidth at the expense of regional providers.

The C9’s concern is only set to grow given that streaming services continue to rise in popularity and are indeed the preferred method of television consumption in the modern day, with even major sports leagues opting to sign deals with streaming platforms.

https://www.guardian.co.tt/business/net ... a9a6e6a925

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » April 21st, 2024, 7:23 pm

It wouldn't be a problem if forex as available.

See why shutting down the refiner was a dumb idea...

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » April 21st, 2024, 7:32 pm

sMASH wrote:It wouldn't be a problem if forex as available.

See why shutting down the refiner was a dumb idea...
But when the union was buying it..... somebody didn't want the ordinary workers to own it.
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Postby ProtonPowder » April 21st, 2024, 7:46 pm

The premise of the Netflix article is the dumbest thing I've seen in a while. T&TEC and TATT have about the same estimate of households in T&T at ~400k. Prescod, some fool, claims that half of all the households in T&T have Netflix?

Where did he get that from? He pulled that figure straight out of his arse. Additionally he says nothing about T&T being a country particularly keen on torrenting and pirating. Also he pegged the forex outgoing on the mid range plan rather than the basic one.

You know who would have the real figures for subscription costs? The banks from credit card statements. Their analysts probably already know how bad the foundation of this article is.

Tl;dr, Kwesi Prescod let the 1% put a lil money up his behind and then pull out some figures to blame the common citizen for a problem caused by the 1% themselves.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » April 21st, 2024, 8:05 pm

he is a bright spark originally from flow who end up wukking for the regulator and become a consultant

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby maj. tom » April 21st, 2024, 8:49 pm

So Amplia want to partner with Netflix for rights to air in Trinidad market. Netflix tell them haul dey ass and likely know that they're complete sheit service, now they vex and talking about forex and foreign tax. Steupssss.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby VexXx Dogg » April 22nd, 2024, 10:53 am

bluefete wrote:So the 1% owned Guardian doing a hatchet job on the middle and lower income classes.

They want to ban Netflix so they can continue to import new cars with scarce foreign exchange and thing. Carry on.

Rowley did say there is nothing wrong with the rich getting richer.



Netflix’s popularity comes at a cost

T&T is still very much into Netflix and chill.

However, the popular streaming platform’s popularity is silently a significant extractor of local foreign exchange with T&T subscribers spending millions of US dollars annually to maintain their accounts.

Local telecoms expert, Kwesi Prescod, said no one but Netflix and its shareholders knows how many households in T&T subscribe to the streaming service, which reported on Thursday a total of 269.6 million subscriptions worldwide at the end of March, 2024. But Prescod, a telecommunications consultant, said a conservative estimate of the number of T&T households subscribing to Netflix could easily exceed 200,000.

“Given broadband penetration is 94 per cent, according to the Telecommunications Authority of T&T, and conservatively assuming even 50 per cent are Netflix subscribers, that means the number of subscribers could be 200,000 (based on 410,000 households),” said Prescod. Notably, Jamaica’s subscription number was said to be 150,000 in 2022.

Prescod based his calculation of the penetration of Netflix in T&T on the premise that evidence suggests that most of the households that have broadband access are accessing these streaming services.

“Broadband penetration is driven by streaming services, indeed the major operators offer streaming service subscriptions with their packages” he told Sunday Business on Friday, adding that some high-income households have more than two.

Prescod said that Prime, Disney +, Hulu, Max and Paramount are also available to local subscribers and these streaming services could attract another 100,000 T&T households.

Based on his conservative estimate of 200,000 Netflix subscriptions in T&T, and at a current price of US$12.99 a month, Prescod is comfortable with his estimate that T&T spends US$31,176,000 (TT$208 million) a year to access Netflix series, movies and documentaries. The five other streaming services popular in T&T would mean additional extraction of foreign exchange.

He also noted that none of the streaming services are registered as businesses in T&T, so they pay no taxes on these earnings.

Global tech giants

dominate usage

The popularity of streaming services in T&T is borne out by data provided by local telecommunication companies.

According to data provided by Amplia, in February 2024 almost 50 per cent of its internet traffic was commanded by three major players in global tech: Google, Netflix and Facebook.

Google, which owns YouTube, commanded 16.5 per cent of the traffic, with Netflix slightly behind at 16 per cent while Facebook, with 15 per cent, trailed.

Combined, these three, considered part of the big six tech companies, were responsible for 47 per cent of the traffic utilised by Amplia customers for February.

There was a similar pattern in January 2024, as these sites were once again the three largest consumers of bandwidth by Amplia customers, However in that month they accounted for 48.2 per cent of the traffic, with Google/YouTube accounting for 17 per cent with Netflix and Facebook both accounting for 15.6 per cent.


The numbers for December hit 51 per cent as Amplia customers upped their streaming during the Christmas period with Google/YouTube seeing 18.7 per cent of internet traffic, with Netflix not far behind with 18.3. Facebook remained third in consumption with 14 per cent.

However while Google/YouTube and Facebook/Meta are connected to multiple sites and social media platforms, Netflix is geared towards video streaming in particular.

Amplia confirmed that throughout the three months, Netflix usage largely peaked in the evening hours of 8 pm and 10 pm, with the typical peak usage of Netflix being approximately 28Gbps.

Amplia said peak usage and peak usage time were consistent across all three months.

When contacted, Digicel was unable to provide similar detailed numbers concerning consumption patterns on its broadband service Digicel+. However, the company said “approximately six per cent of the mobile data traffic on our network is due to Netflix.”

Digicel said, “However, we are fairly certain that on the fixed broadband side (Digicel+) it would be higher than this as most customers consume Netflix on their home TVs using their fixed connections. Unfortunately we do not have the empirical data on fixed broadband.”

Netflix’s continued dominance of local internet usage has come just a few years after there were concerns that the undisputed king of streaming might have finally lost its crown amid the surge of new services namely Disney +, HBO Max (now just Max), Apple TV, Prime Video, Paramount and Peacock.

This slippage was expected to be intensified when Netflix announced price increases and a subsequent crackdown on password sharing last year.

However internationally, Netflix could only claim to be second to one other streaming platform last year, the still largely free to the public YouTube.

T&T stayed in line with global trends as Netflix is easily the most popular subscription streaming service being used in the country. Unlike Disney+ and Max, there is no tie-in option or arrangement for local cable providers to bundle services with the streaming platform.

Local cable providers Flow and Digicel both received backlash for raising their prices in the past few years, but Netflix has also increased its subscription cost in the past year and has hinted that there may be another increase on the way.

Notably, Netflix prices are not uniform across the board, in 2023 the company dropped the prices of subscriptions in over 30 countries to maintain its subscription numbers.

While one such country which benefitted from this decision was our Caricom neighbour Jamaica, which saw subscription cost drop to US$5, T&T’s subscription cost remained at $12.99 per month.

The price in T&T is still some way off from the most expensive subscription cost in the Caribbean, which is currently held by the US Virgin Islands at US$15.49 and Barbados at US$15.29.

Regional telecoms

want ‘Fair Share’

Netflix’s subscription model, absent the ties seen by Disney+ and Max to local providers, underlined one of the concerns raised by the C9 that the company benefits from using local resources with little return.

The C9 is a CANTO Working Group of Caribbean telecommunications operators advocating for Fair Share, as the group is concerned that while these companies have consistently been reaping financial benefits in the region, regional telecommunications networks are seeing little to no returns from them.

The C9 comprises ATN International, Belize Telemedia Ltd (BTL), Cable Bahamas, Digicel, Guyana Telephone and Telegraph Company (GTT), Liberty Latin America, Telesur, The Cable in St Kitts, and Telecommunications Services of T&T (TSTT).

Earlier this year, chair of the C9 committee Lisa Agard, revealed that in 2023, the big six global tech companies—Alphabet (Google), Meta, Apple, Amazon, TikTok and Netflix—earned a combined total of US$11.5 billion in the Caribbean.

A Netflix subscription in Trinidad would require the use of foreign exchange, as the entity does not have a local arm which facilitates payments.

Agard confirmed to Guardian Media that during her stint as TSTT CEO, Amplia approached Netflix to partner with them so that local subscribers could pay the local telecommunications company TT to obtain a Netflix subscription. Netflix refused the deal, stating that its penetration in Trinidad and Tobago was already high and it did not require such an arrangement.

Netflix and the rest of the big tech companies also dominate two-thirds or 67 per cent of the region’s internet traffic and command bandwidth, which also significantly adds to costs incurred by regional providers.

Agard explained then that amid falling revenue for telecommunication operators, this situation is problematic. The C9 has continued to lobby for ongoing discussions to see how they can instead get them to invest in the region and pay their fair share to ensure these telecommunication companies can continue to provide quality service.

Local telecommunications providers had been reeling for some time as the rise in streaming and OTT services around the world had supplanted demand for cable services, while also creating increased demand for more internet bandwidth at the expense of regional providers.

The C9’s concern is only set to grow given that streaming services continue to rise in popularity and are indeed the preferred method of television consumption in the modern day, with even major sports leagues opting to sign deals with streaming platforms.

https://www.guardian.co.tt/business/net ... a9a6e6a925


you misread the intent.

Telecoms providers have been trying to tax the platforms that are heavily used, but it's all BS. TSTT and Digicel have been pushing this agenda for years, but everyone in the internet governance system in the region sees it for the foolishness that it is.

Telelcoms provide a pipe, and should not be concerned about the data in the pipe. They are looking at patterns, to build straw man arguments to get more money - not from the consumers but the content providers - which is rubbish.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby maj. tom » April 22nd, 2024, 12:31 pm

Net neutrality is important that way where the type of data consumed should not matter. Only a flat internet bill from the ISP for access to internet.

If I want Netflix, Disney, etc., then I'll pay Netflix, Disney, etc. for their service directly to them. This concept of taxing internet access for types of data consumption is just the capitalist exploition dream. Again this is always why government regulation is important for consumers.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby maj. tom » April 23rd, 2024, 8:53 am

No way! This government is all about value for money. Is only when Kamla did TEEF OUT the Treasury!

$900m-plus on CoEs and ‘no value’ for money spent

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/900m-plus-on-coes-and-no-value-for-money-spent/article_8b681b0e-0114-11ef-99ae-47674a3bdbe2.html



The country has spent more than $900 million on recent commissions of enquiry (CoEs) and the population feels that the only people who gain from them are the attorneys and the commissioners.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » April 23rd, 2024, 9:06 am

a coe is a huge economic event

rental of place, furnishing
staffing, big catering, security
drivers, travel expenses, hotel
stationery, computers
multimedia staff
and we not even talking the lawyers part

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » April 23rd, 2024, 12:47 pm

maj. tom wrote:No way! This government is all about value for money. Is only when Kamla did TEEF OUT the Treasury!

$900m-plus on CoEs and ‘no value’ for money spent

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/900m-plus-on-coes-and-no-value-for-money-spent/article_8b681b0e-0114-11ef-99ae-47674a3bdbe2.html



The country has spent more than $900 million on recent commissions of enquiry (CoEs) and the population feels that the only people who gain from them are the attorneys and the commissioners.

I think the bulk of that has to be the big ones from PP days. Clico ($500M), Las Alturas, 1990 Coup, Pt Fortin Hway (PNM days) and the Paria Diving Tragedy which was only done because of the demand of the Opposition.

Nevertheless, while there might be recommendations for the govt to implement, it is for the DPP to charge ppl coming out of the CoE just like right now we are waiting for the DPP to act on Paria.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » April 23rd, 2024, 1:11 pm

Trinis are bobolees.

The Govt can basically do anything and they will just sit and throw tantrums for 2 days and accept it at the end.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » April 23rd, 2024, 1:30 pm

MaxPower wrote:pnm voting base are bobolees.

The Govt can basically hold them and wuk them, do anything and they will grumble a lil bit, then exclaim "GRATE IS D PNM" and and go back to robbing unc areas.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » April 23rd, 2024, 1:37 pm

wing wrote:
sMASH wrote:It wouldn't be a problem if forex as available.

See why shutting down the refiner was a dumb idea...
But when the union was buying it..... somebody didn't want the ordinary workers to own it.
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OWTU resisted kamala's interruption, and won the bid and are running a successful refinery.


The refinery was a good forex earner, everybody knows that. When it have more forex in the country, it have more forex to theif, eveybody happy. They try to talk sense into roget head, but dat Time he think he good with imburt and sure to gt with the refinery as the best bidder.
Low and behold it was just a happy story to tout for 2020 ge.



The only reason why petrotrin was shut down was to squash the documents between av and keet.

Now forex is toight toight toight.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby matr1x » April 23rd, 2024, 2:01 pm

Pnm had all these years, and made Trinidad into.a hell hole

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » April 23rd, 2024, 3:31 pm

sMASH wrote:The refinery was a good forex earner, everybody knows that.

"We are producing approximately 40,000 barrels of oil a day and the refinery operates at a capacity of 140,000 barrels a day, so we have to go to the market to buy about 100,000 barrels of oil to make up the shortfall," Petrotrin Chairman Wilfred Espinet said. "This results in a net loss in foreign exchange."
https://www.spglobal.com/marketintellig ... AAJf4P6XQ2

sMASH wrote:The only reason why petrotrin was shut down was to squash the documents between av and keet.

A&V was a contractor of Petrotrin E&P which is today Heritage. The refinery which was shut down was part of Petrotrin R&M.
The Fake Oil scandal came out more than 1yr before Petrotrin was restructured. If you read the arbitration all the documents were available and they were able to call all the relevant witnesses.

I know you are just going to double down on your lie, but I am just saying this for the benefit of objective minds.

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