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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby mars » July 20th, 2015, 11:41 pm

antlind wrote:I don't know the full history but what would Abu have to gain from Dana's death?


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/BAKR_MEN_NEXT.html

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby shogun » July 20th, 2015, 11:44 pm

Interesting...

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby bluefete » July 21st, 2015, 12:17 am

mars wrote:
antlind wrote:I don't know the full history but what would Abu have to gain from Dana's death?


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/BAKR_MEN_NEXT.html


But Dana was not the one who gave the order to sell his properties. She was the state prosecutor.

So Abu Bakr waited 4 years after to kill her?????? Really? In the coup attempt, didn't Abu Bakr release all the females?

Come on people, make sense from nonsense.

It was a special US Official who stated that Dana's death was ordered by a drug cartel. I will look for that info.

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby bluefete » July 21st, 2015, 12:25 am

Lemme tell allyuh something.

Dana's death was investigated by the US government and what they found is one of the reasons why Obama did not re-appoint an American Ambassador to T&T!!!!!!!!!!

Dana's death goes to the highest levels of Kamla's government.



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Dana Seetahal Murder
Obama envoy: Dana’s hit ordered by foreign drug cartel



Curtis Williams
Published:
Wednesday, June 25, 2014

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Flashback: United States Assistant Secretary of State William Brownfield, second from right, chats with Inspector Matthew Ovid, left, head of the Canine Unit, at the Piarco International Airport during his visit to T&T in April, where he attended the Association of Caribbean Commissioners of Police Conference at the Hyatt Regency, Port-of-Spain. With them are Keith Gilges political chief, right, and James Story, director of International Western Hemisphere Programmes. PHOTO COURTESY US EMBASSY, PORT-OF-SPAIN

Special state prosecutor Dana Seetahal was murdered by a trans-national drug organisation with operations in T&T, says the United States Assistant Secretary of State William Brownfield. Speaking from Washington, DC, in a teleconference with Caribbean journalists yesterday, Ambassador Brownfield said: “Those in Trinidad would know that I visited your country two months ago and two days after I left there was the brutal murder of Ms Dana Seetahal. She was murdered by a trans-national drug organisation.”


Asked by the T&T Guardian to elaborate on this suggestion, Brownfield, who has responsibility for international narcotics and law enforcement affairs, said: “I stand by everything I have said. This was clearly not a crime of passion. “It was not a crime of opportunity where someone felt they should steal her handbag and then found they had to shoot her. “This was a well planned and orchestrated hit. “This is not something you plan easily. It is organised crime with an international player that has a crime organisation with presence in T&T.”



On May 4, Seetahal was shot dead just outside the Woodbrook Youth Facility on Hamilton Holder Street as she was on her way to her apartment at One Woodbrook Place after leaving the Ma Pau casino on Ariapita Avenue, Port-of-Spain. Residents reported hearing a volley of gunshots followed by screeching tyres. By the time they contacted police and ran outside to check, they found Seetahal slumped over the steering wheel of her light blue Volkswagen Touareg. She was pronounced dead at the scene.



Acting Police Commissioner Stephen Williams has publicly said the police knew how and why Seetahal was killed but thus far, 53 days after her killing, no one has been charged with her murder. Yesterday, Brownfield said Seetahal’s murder could not be seen as “just another statistic,” explaining that Seetahal had partnered with the US government on several issues, had been the beneficiary of a Fulbright scholarship from the US government, and was, in his words, “a star, a woman of tremendous courage.”



Reached in England last night National Security Minister Gary Griffith said he preferred not to comment.



Drug, crime problem growing

Pointing out that there was a correlation between the increase of drugs flowing through the region and the crime and violence on the regional streets, including those of T&T, US Assistant Secretary of State William Brownfield said the increased use of the Caribbean as a trans-shipment point for drugs had led to the increase in murders. He predicted that the level of violence was likely to get worse over the next few years, warning that even arms of the State can be challenged.



He added: “Drug traffickers have to have the firepower to defend their turf. They eventually have to be prepared to take on institutions of the State, whether that is the police, border guards, customs or the Judiciary.” Brownfield said drug cartels were well organised and targeted countries where there were weaknesses, which could range from poorly paid public officials to unprotected borders.



He repeated his statement, reported in the T&T Guardian last month, that the US estimated the quantum of drugs being trans-shipped through the Caribbean to the US had increased, saying it had risen between 2011 and 2013 by over 300 per cent. He listed three major routes in the Caribbean. The first, he said, was through Jamaica and then onto the United States, the second through the Dominican Republic/Haiti and the third through the eastern Caribbean.



Brownfield said the US government was partnering with Caricom governments to help deal with the crime challenge, including the challenge of guns coming into the region from the US.





He said the reality was that the US had its own laws relating to gun control but had put in place a system where law enforcement could trace a gun in real time, determine if it was in the country illegally and if the ballistics showed it had been used in any other crime. The ambassador admitted that was not enough but said the US was operating in a situation where its legal system was different from those in the region.



On the issue of extra-judicial killings, he said if there was evidence that the police service was involved in such killing in any country, by law, the US would have to discontinue co-operation with the organisation. He explained that was currently the situation with the St Lucian police and that was why co-operation with that country had been suspended. Brownfield said that was unfortunate because the move not only hurt St Lucia but the region as a whole.



Allegations of extra-judicial killings have been made against the T&T Police Service by members of the public after the recent spate of police shootings. So far this year, 29 people have been killed by the police in T&T.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2014-06- ... ng-tt-ties

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby bluefete » July 21st, 2015, 12:30 am

An assassination in Trinidad and Tobago
A bleak day for justice

May 6th 2014, 11:47 by M.W.| PORT OF SPAIN

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JUST before midnight on May 3rd, Dana Seetahal, a prominent lawyer in Trinidad and Tobago, left one of the island’s lively casinos. Five minutes from her home, a car blocked the road ahead. A van pulled alongside; there was a burst of gunfire. The national-security minister Gary Griffith called the killing a “well orchestrated hit.”

In this country of just 1.3m people, there have been 160 murders so far this year. Most are barely reported. Ms Seetahal’s death has caused far more commotion. “When I heard the news, all I could have done was put my pillow over my head and scream,” said one devastated colleague. “I am scared,” said a senior magistrate.

In Trinidad and Tobago, top lawyers are media stars. Ms Seetahal was ahead of the pack. For five years she was an independent senator, hand-picked by the president. She wrote a column for the Trinidad Express. She had been president of the Law Association. She lectured in the university’s law school, and wrote the first and only textbook on Caribbean criminal practice.

Ms Seetahal was a fierce campaigner for criminal-justice reform, which is urgently needed in Trinidad and Tobago and throughout the Caribbean. The islands have some of the world’s prettiest beaches and some of its highest murder rates. Creaky ex-colonial judicial systems cannot cope with a flood of drug- and gang-related crime, complex fraud and money-laundering.

Routine criminal cases can take ten years to reach a verdict. For the slightest of reasons, hearings may be adjourned for six months or more; and then postponed again. Suspects languish in overcrowded prisons, innocent until proven guilty. Witnesses are intimidated, change their mind about testifying or simply forget what happened. Some are shot, some migrate, some die from natural causes.

Ms Seetahal’s death comes as she was helping to draft legislation to short-circuit lengthy hearings in the lower courts. Just two weeks ago, she chaired a productive workshop on plea bargaining, encouraging those who are clearly guilty to unclog the courts in exchange for a shorter sentence.

Anyone who knows why Ms Seetahal was killed is not talking. She had been due in court on May 5th, where she was a leading member of the prosecution team in a high-profile murder-and-kidnapping case. Some have rushed to link that trial to her murder but it is hard to see how the 12 hapless accused, in prison since May 2007, could organise a professional hit, or indeed gain from her death.

Kamla Persad-Bissessar, the prime minister, has upped the reward for information leading to conviction of the murderers to $550,000. If the culprits are found and the courts move at their usual pace, that should be payable some time after 2020.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/americas ... and-tobago

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zoom rader wrote:Ah set ah bump gum tuners


Good thing you're not like that. Phew!

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby De Dragon » July 21st, 2015, 4:09 am

See what happens is these Police/Judiciary/Regiment collusions with the Government magically disappear when the PNM is the party in power, only to reappear just as magically when they demit office.

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby Lance » July 21st, 2015, 4:27 am

De Dragon wrote:See what happens is these Police/Judiciary/Regiment collusions with the Government magically disappear when the PNM is the party in power, only to reappear just as magically when they demit office.


I sense sarcasm. I doubt any objective, right thinking individual would argue that these deficiencies are party specific.

They both manipulate the legal framework to advance selfish agendas.

People need to get out of this sheep mode or else Trinidad would just be a revolving door of political exploitation.

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby Ted_v2 » July 21st, 2015, 6:58 am

bluefete wrote:Okay, let's see.

Is it possible that the government and Abu Bakr orchestrated this whole thing to bring about a state of emergency?

General Elections due in a month and a half.
Dana Seetahal murder investigation has caused the government no end of licks from the population.
With the Caparo guy in jail, Abu Bakr was the most next likely suspect.
Arrest Abu Bakr and trip off his son, Fuad, and you have the grounds for a state of emergency.

Just what you need to indefinitely postpone an election.

If the canaries are singing (and that is highly unlikely), then the MAIN suspect, a former government minister and senator must surely be quaking in his boots (Yeah, right).


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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby mero » July 21st, 2015, 9:46 am

Ask Anniiilllllll!!!!!!!

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby bluefete » July 21st, 2015, 3:54 pm

Ask Anandddddddddd!!!!!!!!!

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby Kalisnakov » July 21st, 2015, 5:10 pm

bluefete wrote:Ask Anandddddddddd!!!!!!!!!

^^^^^
Hmmm
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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » July 21st, 2015, 5:20 pm

Motive for asking Anand?

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby bluefete » July 22nd, 2015, 12:22 am

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Motive for asking Anand?


Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice!

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby rfari » July 22nd, 2015, 12:13 pm

News report said that bakr expected to be release soon

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby antlind » July 22nd, 2015, 12:16 pm

Of course he will be released. That man is a survivor. They could not put him away for the 1990 coup attempt. One has to wonder what the great minds within the police service were thinking when they arrested him. This place is a joke.

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Postby rfari » July 22nd, 2015, 12:23 pm

Bakr issa informer

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Postby RBphoto » July 22nd, 2015, 12:42 pm

Wonder if he drop the soap in jail what will happen.

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » July 22nd, 2015, 2:57 pm

antlind wrote:Of course he will be released. That man is a survivor. They could not put him away for the 1990 coup attempt. One has to wonder what the great minds within the police service were thinking when they arrested him. This place is a joke.


Bakr and he men overthrow the government, shoot the prime minister, demanded compensation, got compensation, went home and took ah nice sleep normal after all that. lol :lol: the men good yes :lol:

But I did hear it had a lot more to 1990 that anyone of us even know. Who knows what Bakr had on these fellas that they ended up letting him go and compensated him aswell.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » July 22nd, 2015, 3:02 pm

Anybody knows the name of the calypso song in this video?

1:10 look how bakr walk down the street with the AK in his hand and $5 in he pocket. Ress it down normel normel, den went home and take ah sleep


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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby eliteauto » July 22nd, 2015, 4:08 pm

Abu Bakr is currently at his mosque in Mucarapo

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Re: SC Dana Seetahal murder - Bakr held for questioning 20/7

Postby desifemlove » July 22nd, 2015, 4:11 pm

if there is no evidence on him, i hope the police top brass going by de tailor to make court clothes...

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » July 22nd, 2015, 4:36 pm

Wonders if Bakr going and sue the Police now over this?

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » July 22nd, 2015, 5:07 pm

Bakr now said he would like to thank the TTPS for their professionalism in dealing with him and he was very pleased with the service he received.

It eh look like he go sue for compensation.

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » July 22nd, 2015, 6:41 pm

Sue for questioning?

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Postby eliteauto » July 22nd, 2015, 6:43 pm

he is gong to continue pursuing legal action

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » July 22nd, 2015, 7:04 pm

eliteauto wrote:he is gong to continue pursuing legal action


If he did sue the TTPS would he win the case for something like this?

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Postby The_Honourable » July 22nd, 2015, 9:55 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:
eliteauto wrote:he is gong to continue pursuing legal action


If he did sue the TTPS would he win the case for something like this?


I believe the law is that the TTPS can hold a person for a maximum of 3 days without laying a charge. After 3 days, either charge the person or let them go.
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