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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » February 24th, 2022, 4:55 pm

Ukraine had wmd's for putin. He had to invade.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby MaxPower » February 24th, 2022, 6:01 pm

Waiting for the “war”.

Allyuh could work up allyuh self yes.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby hover11 » February 24th, 2022, 6:26 pm

MaxPower wrote:Waiting for the “war”.

Allyuh could work up allyuh self yes.
Max,

It will come like a thief in the night

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby MaxPower » February 24th, 2022, 6:32 pm

hover11 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Waiting for the “war”.

Allyuh could work up allyuh self yes.
Max,

It will come like a thief in the night


Jason,

Don’t panic, it’s not a world war.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby teems1 » February 24th, 2022, 6:51 pm

MaxPower wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Max is right, there will be no war.


It’s a neighborhood squabble Jason.
The conflict should remain in Ukraine. It won't escalate into a world war.

NATO will however provide arms and intelligence to ensure Ukraine puts up a fight.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 24th, 2022, 9:08 pm

A different perspective


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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby RedVEVO » February 24th, 2022, 11:46 pm

teems1 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Max is right, there will be no war.


It’s a neighborhood squabble Jason.
The conflict should remain in Ukraine. It won't escalate into a world war.

NATO will however provide arms and intelligence to ensure Ukraine puts up a fight.


It's USA that has provided the arms and etc.

Ukraine is not a member of NATO.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Cantmis » February 25th, 2022, 1:29 am

Rowley should take over tobago

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » February 25th, 2022, 3:24 am

russians fought alongside assad forces to push back isis, and its only after they stepped up, did isis get pushback.
the russians know how to fight and win, they vastly outnumber the ukranes, and they individually belive in putin's direction too.

this will be a massacre.
urkaine will be under putin's control, its up to each ukrainian if they will be alive to see it.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby bluefete » February 25th, 2022, 3:44 am

teems1 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Max is right, there will be no war.


It’s a neighborhood squabble Jason.
The conflict should remain in Ukraine. It won't escalate into a world war.

NATO will however provide arms and intelligence to ensure Ukraine puts up a fight.


Really? Do you know that Russian troops are massing on the Polish border right now?

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby matr1x » February 25th, 2022, 3:53 am

We should send Rowley and Terrance to negotiate. All sides will fall asleep before they get to the point.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby pugboy » February 25th, 2022, 3:57 am

Heinz is the man to send

matr1x wrote:We should send Rowley and Terrance to negotiate. All sides will fall asleep before they get to the point.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby bluefete » February 25th, 2022, 3:59 am

As soon as he opens his mouth ....

pugboy wrote:Heinz is the man to send

matr1x wrote:We should send Rowley and Terrance to negotiate. All sides will fall asleep before they get to the point.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dohplaydat » February 25th, 2022, 6:17 am

The Ukrainian army isn't putting up much fight, they've destroyed a few planes and tanks but those are expected losses when you're invading.

What is surprising is that Russia isn't pressing as hard as everyone assumed they would have. They're holding back a lot actually.

Also, notice the focus of Russia now is to create division amongst the western allies, and from some reports.

France, Germany are not toeing the line wrt to heavy sanctions as the rest of the west.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby De Dragon » February 25th, 2022, 6:29 am

Dohplaydat wrote:The Ukrainian army isn't putting up much fight, they've destroyed a few planes and tanks but those are expected losses when you're invading.

What is surprising is that Russia isn't pressing as hard as everyone assumed they would have. They're holding back a lot actually.

Also, notice the focus of Russia now is to create division amongst the western allies, and from some reports.

France, Germany are not toeing the line wrt to heavy sanctions as the rest of the west.

Germany withheld approval of Nord Stream 2. That's a pretty big deal.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dohplaydat » February 25th, 2022, 6:37 am

De Dragon wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:The Ukrainian army isn't putting up much fight, they've destroyed a few planes and tanks but those are expected losses when you're invading.

What is surprising is that Russia isn't pressing as hard as everyone assumed they would have. They're holding back a lot actually.

Also, notice the focus of Russia now is to create division amongst the western allies, and from some reports.

France, Germany are not toeing the line wrt to heavy sanctions as the rest of the west.

Germany withheld approval of Nord Stream 2. That's a pretty big deal.


Still getting 40-50% of their gas from Nordstream 1 though

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby shogun » February 25th, 2022, 6:38 am

lol

Ukraine gave up their nukes in agreement with the Russian federation that they (Ukraine) would keep their sovereignty. So much for that, I guess? Putin wouldn't even think of invasion, otherwise.

Watching men cucking for a murderous, dictatorial, billionaire by kleptocracy, who invades a sovereign nation is a trip though? lol Nice.

Unfortunately it's the Russian/Ukrainian people who are gonna feel it long before Putin can/will.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » February 25th, 2022, 6:43 am

Putin: covid nothing !!!!!!!!

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby shogun » February 25th, 2022, 6:56 am

pugboy wrote:Heinz is the man to send

matr1x wrote:We should send Rowley and Terrance to negotiate. All sides will fall asleep before they get to the point.


lol.


Doh give Rowlz any ideas nuh fellas? Because if/when he decides to invade Tobago, will be interesting to see how opinions suddenly flip in here. lol

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby timelapse » February 25th, 2022, 7:06 am

shogun wrote:
pugboy wrote:Heinz is the man to send

matr1x wrote:We should send Rowley and Terrance to negotiate. All sides will fall asleep before they get to the point.


lol.


Doh give Rowlz any ideas nuh fellas? Because if/when he decides to invade Tobago, will be interesting to see how opinions suddenly flip in here. lol
What military tactics Rowlz has? Wine on every young injun girl in bago?I hope for his own sake, zoom cut off the pony tail, next thing he get caught in the crossfire

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Redman » February 25th, 2022, 7:18 am

bluefete wrote:
teems1 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Max is right, there will be no war.


It’s a neighborhood squabble Jason.
The conflict should remain in Ukraine. It won't escalate into a world war.

NATO will however provide arms and intelligence to ensure Ukraine puts up a fight.


Really? Do you know that Russian troops are massing on the Polish border right now?


We all speculating here ...

Russia wants US and UK off of his front step.

Since the 90s Russia has been stating that Ukraine cannot join NATO, because it will impact Russian security.
This position has been communicated continuously since the fall of the USSR.

I don't believe Russia will validate NATOs presence in the former Soviet republics by attacking one of them, Russia has used the Article 5 concept as a.major reason for action in Ukraine.

History ..from Vietnam to Afghanistan 2021 have proven that these wars are counterproductive and impossible to win.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » February 25th, 2022, 7:35 am

now see a rt post where ukraine want to negotiate. wise, its unwinnable. might as well save the lives at least.

nordstream 2 is postponed. germany will capitulate in a few months, as its in all their interests to get it done.
if ukraine come to some arrangement with russia, even faster.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby De Dragon » February 25th, 2022, 7:43 am

Redman wrote:
bluefete wrote:
teems1 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Max is right, there will be no war.


It’s a neighborhood squabble Jason.
The conflict should remain in Ukraine. It won't escalate into a world war.

NATO will however provide arms and intelligence to ensure Ukraine puts up a fight.


Really? Do you know that Russian troops are massing on the Polish border right now?


We all speculating here ...

Russia wants US and UK off of his front step.

Since the 90s Russia has been stating that Ukraine cannot join NATO, because it will impact Russian security.
This position has been communicated continuously since the fall of the USSR.

I don't believe Russia will validate NATOs presence in the former Soviet republics by attacking one of them, Russia has used the Article 5 concept as a.major reason for action in Ukraine.

History ..from Vietnam to Afghanistan 2021 have proven that these wars are counterproductive and impossible to win.

Ukraine isn't a NATO member though, nor has NATO in 30 years given any indication of letting them in. Putin simply pulled a
Hitler/Sudetenland style naked power grab, in some deluded re-unification of the old USSR. It'll get interesting if he attacks actual NATO members like Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Hungary.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby hover11 » February 25th, 2022, 7:44 am

De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:
bluefete wrote:
teems1 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Max is right, there will be no war.


It’s a neighborhood squabble Jason.
The conflict should remain in Ukraine. It won't escalate into a world war.

NATO will however provide arms and intelligence to ensure Ukraine puts up a fight.


Really? Do you know that Russian troops are massing on the Polish border right now?


We all speculating here ...

Russia wants US and UK off of his front step.

Since the 90s Russia has been stating that Ukraine cannot join NATO, because it will impact Russian security.
This position has been communicated continuously since the fall of the USSR.

I don't believe Russia will validate NATOs presence in the former Soviet republics by attacking one of them, Russia has used the Article 5 concept as a.major reason for action in Ukraine.

History ..from Vietnam to Afghanistan 2021 have proven that these wars are counterproductive and impossible to win.

Ukraine isn't a NATO member though, nor has NATO in 30 years given any indication of letting them in. Putin simply pulled a
Hitler/Sudetenland style naked power grab, in some deluded re-unification of the old USSR. It'll get interesting if he attacks actual NATO members like Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Hungary.
Interesting how Poland is now taking in Ukrainian refugees, let Putin's onslaught continue

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby pugboy » February 25th, 2022, 7:47 am

by weekend the invasion will be complete

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dohplaydat » February 25th, 2022, 7:51 am

De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:
bluefete wrote:
teems1 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Max is right, there will be no war.


It’s a neighborhood squabble Jason.
The conflict should remain in Ukraine. It won't escalate into a world war.

NATO will however provide arms and intelligence to ensure Ukraine puts up a fight.


Really? Do you know that Russian troops are massing on the Polish border right now?


We all speculating here ...

Russia wants US and UK off of his front step.

Since the 90s Russia has been stating that Ukraine cannot join NATO, because it will impact Russian security.
This position has been communicated continuously since the fall of the USSR.

I don't believe Russia will validate NATOs presence in the former Soviet republics by attacking one of them, Russia has used the Article 5 concept as a.major reason for action in Ukraine.

History ..from Vietnam to Afghanistan 2021 have proven that these wars are counterproductive and impossible to win.

Ukraine isn't a NATO member though, nor has NATO in 30 years given any indication of letting them in. Putin simply pulled a
Hitler/Sudetenland style naked power grab, in some deluded re-unification of the old USSR. It'll get interesting if he attacks actual NATO members like Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Hungary.


Honestly, the truth is we don't know what exactly NATO was doing covertly in Ukraine. Putin 'could' be justified in his action, but I think this was all part of a long-term plan.

We need to think about Putin's character and motives, he is not thinking rationally right now. He wants a new USSR and a dominant Russia.

Effectively, this means he probably won't stop at Ukraine, and given the sanctions, he will try to form a new block of scorned nations.

That would include Belarus (obviously), Ukraine, Kazakstan, Moldova......he has alliances with Iran and Syria, possibly he can get the Taliban on his side, and maybe some more of the Stans. China will trade with all of them so there's no real need for the West. (who will still stupidly buy Russian oil and gas).

So there will be a USSR 2.0 and that will be Putins legacy.

Many in Europe, even though they are NATO, do not want to interfere with Russia and that includes Germany, Italy, France, Hungary, Switzerland (how could I forget the original Nazi financiers), and Romania...possibly a few others.

NATO is not going to get involved, NATO is basically defense insurance against Russian invasion.

If Finland or Moldova gets invaded, they won't be able to just sign up to NATO and stop Russia. NATO does not cover pre-existing invasions.
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Redman » February 25th, 2022, 8:07 am

De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:
bluefete wrote:
teems1 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Max is right, there will be no war.


It’s a neighborhood squabble Jason.
The conflict should remain in Ukraine. It won't escalate into a world war.

NATO will however provide arms and intelligence to ensure Ukraine puts up a fight.


Really? Do you know that Russian troops are massing on the Polish border right now?


We all speculating here ...

Russia wants US and UK off of his front step.

Since the 90s Russia has been stating that Ukraine cannot join NATO, because it will impact Russian security.
This position has been communicated continuously since the fall of the USSR.

I don't believe Russia will validate NATOs presence in the former Soviet republics by attacking one of them, Russia has used the Article 5 concept as a.major reason for action in Ukraine.

History ..from Vietnam to Afghanistan 2021 have proven that these wars are counterproductive and impossible to win.

Ukraine isn't a NATO member though, nor has NATO in 30 years given any indication of letting them in. Putin simply pulled a
Hitler/Sudetenland style naked power grab, in some deluded re-unification of the old USSR. It'll get interesting if he attacks actual NATO members like Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Hungary.


Russian concerns about Ukraine, prexists Putin's ascension into office.

It's been well documented as a major concern since the 90s...Yeltsin vocalised it, and there is evidence that promises were made.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby bamfo_dennis » February 25th, 2022, 8:12 am

y germany BND eh send ah james bond to stand up next to putin n done d story with some cold steel? is he alone doin dis i sure he own general n solders eh want to do dis. putin want to play he is ah madman like hitler y dey eh line up d laser from space n zap him?

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dizzy28 » February 25th, 2022, 8:32 am

The protests in major Russian cities is very heartening. Dissent is not generally allowed and for Russians to protest the way they at significant risk to themselves shows the level of discontent with what is happening.

Captured Russian units have expressed surprise that they were actually are war. Could be them CYA or they genuinely are pawns.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby MaxPower » February 25th, 2022, 8:38 am

Where is the war everyone is hyped about?

All them WW3 memes and nuke talk.

It’s ok to backpedal now.

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