Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Really good review.
You save about $70,000 by not having to pay MVT, duty and VAT on the Ioniq.

This weekend there is another Ioniq test drive event:

STOP N’ STEER SALES EVENT from 9am – 3pm at four locations ( Port of Spain, Morvant, San Fernando & Chaguanas) .

[VexXx Dogg]

I wonder if massy planning to bring the hybrid xtrail. Loving it and have an concept i'd love to execute

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

I wonder if massy planning to bring the hybrid xtrail. Loving it and have an concept i'd love to execute

they said they do plan to bring it. the Hybrid Sonata is being planned here too.

[rspann]

S class Merc Hybrid is my choice for a hybrid. A real beauty.

[roadhog]

S class Merc Hybrid is my choice for a hybrid. A real beauty.

Mclaren p1 is my choice . Hey if I dreaming, best I go big.

[PariaMan]

hope we get plenty new brand hybrids from the firms. they will train their techs. these techs as usuaul will take side jobs or go on to set up their own shops. some of these hybrids perform better than their non hybrid brothers

[Morpheus]

That's what I'm counting on. Willing to try one...
Park up the Premium guzzler for weekends or something.
That hybrid will be great in that stinking CRH morning and afternoon traffic.

[scotty_buttons]

Visited a couple euro showrooms this week and unfortunately none of them said they have any plans to bring in hybrids in the near future

[Morpheus]

[scotty_buttons]

Well didn't check VW

[Chimera]

[VexXx Dogg]

I couldn't watch out the whole thing because well, he's annoying.

What exactly is his beef?

1. Markup? ONE person offered him an xtrail at 22K usd, so that mean all dealers making 100K markup? What about model/trim/ variations?

2. Battery cost: A replacement engine/trans for almost any NEW car costs an arm, a leg, a left nut and 1/2 a liver. Moot.

3. Fuel quality? Not all diesel owners have problems. Not all gas is sheit. Our petrol is pretty ok once proper maintenance is done.

That's about all I coulda stomach, so I'm guessing the rest of his arguments against hybrids have the same merit-less theme

[scotty_buttons]

I couldn't watch out the whole thing because well, he's annoying.

What exactly is his beef?

1. Markup? ONE person offered him an xtrail at 22K usd, so that mean all dealers making 100K markup? What about model/trim/ variations?

2. Battery cost: A replacement engine/trans for almost any NEW car costs an arm, a leg, a left nut and 1/2 a liver. Moot.

3. Fuel quality? Not all diesel owners have problems. Not all gas is sheit. Our petrol is pretty ok once proper maintenance is done.

That's about all I coulda stomach, so I'm guessing the rest of his arguments against hybrids have the same merit-less theme

Same. I don't know what he so butthurt about

[Chimera]

The main thing he talking about is the battery. He says the battery costing around 50k if it has to change and if you buy a used hybrid....a good bit of life would already be gone from the battery.

[pete]

Probably has a ton of conventional vehicles in stock selling for 250k so doesn't want people buying things that burn less fuel.

[sMASH]

also that the mark up is substantial,,, nearing 100k on a roro hybrid. due to the fact that japan gonna move to 2018 stock so older stock to be piped out, and lower taxes, making them cheap to acquire

[toyolink]

The main thing he talking about is the battery. He says the battery costing around 50k if it has to change and if you buy a used hybrid....a good bit of life would already be gone from the battery.

The High Voltage Battery pack could be the big issue, in light of the extremely high replacement cost.
Buyers need to ensure proper warranty provisions are in place or at least vehicle vendor can supply same efficiently.
Vendors must be able to financially back-up their obligations or undertakings given to buyers.
Again HV battery packs and Inverters carry what I would simply call 'WOW' prices.
The minimum warranty on a HV system should be 3 years (3 month Ministry stipulation for hybrids not on the cards).

[sMASH]

that is with new brand from the firm.

but a second hand vehicle is strongly not advised, at least untill bamboo get to knockdown some vehicles.

i was checking out the e 4wd systems to do a small project about a year ago, and the cost of the used components on ebay are so high that the idea just scrap...

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

The main thing he talking about is the battery. He says the battery costing around 50k if it has to change and if you buy a used hybrid....a good bit of life would already be gone from the battery.

The High Voltage Battery pack could be the big issue, in light of the extremely high replacement cost.
Buyers need to ensure proper warranty provisions are in place or at least vehicle vendor can supply same efficiently.
Vendors must be able to financially back-up their obligations or undertakings given to buyers.
Again HV battery packs and Inverters carry what I would simply call 'WOW' prices.
The minimum warranty on a HV system should be 3 years (3 month Ministry stipulation for hybrids not on the cards).

Massy has a 10 year warranty on the battery on the Ioniq Hybrid.

[Chimera]

Lol @ massy warranty meaning anything.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Lol @ massy warranty meaning anything.

Still better than no warranty from a used hybrid.

[toyolink]

Lol @ massy warranty meaning anything.

Still better than no warranty from a used hybrid.

Serious dealers who going after volume could do a 24 month warranty if they follow some quality guidelines eg;
-All used units must be certified pre-owned with known history and mileage.
-The level of profit may most likely justify investment on replacement of say 1 hv battery per 12 vehicles with 24 month warranty (stipulations may apply).
The point is, serious dealers can 'up their game' to take advantage of business ops.
Dealers must upgrade their knowledge base and service capabilities if they want to mess in this market segment (this applies to both new and used).Unfortunately, local dealers don't pay the level of salaries to employ individuals best able to cope with the tech. and concepts applied.
The literature provided by the brands for training of service personnel is quite intimidating for those without some basic electrical engineering background.
300v bumping up to 600v in some case could be quite explosive.

[hong kong phooey]

This has been very informative to me >
i was actually planning on buying one but i guess i will buy new normal gas vehicle from the firm.
Bess motors had the nissan x trail 4x4 at 229k
and this other dealer sent me a quote for brand new from the firm japan 4x4 starting at 202
but i guess i will scrap this idea .

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ what's the problem with new hybrid from the firm?

[hong kong phooey]

that used car dealer featured in the video said parts are hard to get and if a replacement battery is 50 k well pressure .
he also mentioned stuff about the drivetrain and having all this headache with my ford to get parts i dont want anymore .

massy said they will start bringing in xtrail hybrid 3rd quarted of this year but i dont think i could wait so long .

"We will have the X-Trail Hybrid available 2017 estimated 3rd quarter (no pricing yet). Technicians have started training already."

[pugboy]

These cars use batteries with many individual cells in order to make up the high voltage and capacity.
If I was the owner of one I would make sure to regularly have the battery checked to make sure no cells are running lower than others, i.e. Cell balancing
On YouTube many are using Rc battery chargers to do discharge,charge cycles on the cells.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

that used car dealer featured in the video said parts are hard to get and if a replacement battery is 50 k well pressure .
he also mentioned stuff about the drivetrain and having all this headache with my ford to get parts i dont want no more .

You're going to make such a big decision based on his claims alone?

[hong kong phooey]

well i tried searching online for availability of parts and it not that easy to find.
i know its new but i dont want stress in a few years time .
i presently have a nissan and i got to say it is the easiest vehicle to get parts for.

[urbandilema]

that used car dealer featured in the video said parts are hard to get and if a replacement battery is 50 k well pressure .
he also mentioned stuff about the drivetrain and having all this headache with my ford to get parts i dont want no more .

You're going to make such a big decision based on his claims alone?

Hmm saw the video with same character he is tears yes..

[j.o.e]

Inshan sounds like he has an axe to grind. Don't think he brought up any valid points.