dealing with difficult employees

[Hook]

LOL nah I ain't forkin up d man.
I actually know a few ppl who would overthink it and make it a big issue to try and save other customers from having the same experience.
If it's just the one time, it could slide.

[SmokeyGTi]

Joker is correct and also in redundancy they must follow the rules of the retrenchment and severance act. The onus is on the company in court to prove that the position is redundant.

that easy no arse to do..
change the job description, rename the job, move to another dept etc...
with the right legal advice it can be done.

btw joker u is a union man orr?

[joker]

Joker is correct and also in redundancy they must follow the rules of the retrenchment and severance act. The onus is on the company in court to prove that the position is redundant.

that easy no arse to do..
change the job description, rename the job, move to another dept etc...
with the right legal advice it can be done.

btw joker u is a union man orr?

it can be done but if it is proven the employer has alot of heat to face
Jobs must be redundant by Retrenchment , WHERE there is a RMU ... the employer must notify the Union and Justify .. however they {the employer } must look at suitable alternatives .
by law you must serve 45 days notice .

WHERE THERE IS NO RMU A WORKER could present his case to the MOL WHO WOULD TRY TO RESOLVE AND IF NO RESOLVE THEN REFER IT TO THE INDUSTRIAL COURT !

[sharkman121]

Joker is correct and also in redundancy they must follow the rules of the retrenchment and severance act. The onus is on the company in court to prove that the position is redundant.

that easy no arse to do..
change the job description, rename the job, move to another dept etc...
with the right legal advice it can be done.

btw joker u is a union man orr?

u gotta be kidding me, ive seen many a big company fall to this in Industrial Court. Trust me, employers try this all the time. Do you know that even if your position is redundant, the company must also at least try to fit you in to another area in the company.

The court will look at things like age of the worker, ability to be gainfully employed in the future (e.g if the worker is 50+ yrs), circumstances under which worker was dismissed, if it was considered harsh and oppressive etc, any many other circumstances.

[RIPEBREDFRUIT]

this is why i said fak away with unions, thank God theres no union where i wuk, yuh play d rass, dem FIRE yuh kant.
it wuks out sweet- no setta lazy a5s, late coming, watless labourers by me, you either show up to wuk on time and put in a fair days wuk or bye bye.

[pioneer]

Easiest route where unions exist, make the employee believe he/she is being underpaid and their abilities are being under-utilised. Make them believe their current work is harsh, oppressive and insulting their intelligence.

There is a guy by us with 2 CXC passes who is worse than what OP described, over the last few months we managed to plant those thoughts in his head. He took chain up bad and demanded a meeting with HR and Accounts, demanded more pay and started insulting senior officers because he believed he was being oppressed and targetted. He even threw a tantrum and walked off the job one day, but came back next day.

We used to print out job ad's for him and place strategically on his desk, encouraging him to apply and hopefully get a job where he will be paid more and appreciated. He did just that, he applied for EVERY ad he saw including those requiring post-graduate qualifications.

He attended an interview months back for a CSR or sumn, after he hounded them down they told him he "passed". We told him well that means you gettin de wukk, so he tendered his resignation effective end of this month, he said he needs some time for himself before he starts his new job.

Our HR dept and unit is thrilled that he is leaving AND submitted his resignation. There is no come back for him.

OP, try psychological warfare.

[rfari]

Wdmc

[dougla_boy]

dafuq boy pios? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

[pioneer]

allyuh feel I does jus troll here?

[SUPAstarr]

LOL did that to secretary once, is when they comeback an they get the "im sorry your position has already been filled"

[rfari]

allyuh feel I does jus troll here?

Well ..yeah

[pioneer]

LOL did that to secretary once, is when they comeback an they get the "im sorry your position has already been filled"

And they cya do chit bout it

[DionYorker]

LOL did that to secretary once, is when they comeback an they get the "im sorry your position has already been filled"

And they cya do chit bout it

Well that may be true, unless if fate has it this guy finds out it was you tricking him to leave his job and now he has no money, nothing to live for and feels foolish.....we just might have one less troll.

I find it interesting how people react to these situations. I hope you will be safe....

Frustration and revenge tend to be a good factor for crime these days...GL hoss...may u live long...

[Ted_v2]

Pios isa bawse

[pioneer]

LOL did that to secretary once, is when they comeback an they get the "im sorry your position has already been filled"

And they cya do chit bout it

Well that may be true, unless if fate has it this guy finds out it was you tricking him to leave his job and now he has no money, nothing to live for and feels foolish.....we just might have one less troll.

I find it interesting how people react to these situations. I hope you will be safe....

Frustration and revenge tend to be a good factor for crime these days...GL hoss...may u live long...

You have to see the effect of planting an idea in someone's mind and see it grow without you even trying.

The guy is now fully convinced the department is fighting him down because of his qualifications. We even try to show him that it's not so but he is not having it.

We realised he has some kinda mental problem, delusional I guess? He overthinks most situations. If the phone rings he automatically thinks it's HR calling to fire him, every time.

He has threatened other people in here with violence already, I'm not afraid. I deal with gun-talkin guntas and I walk the mean streets of POS everyday bro. Threats do nothing to me. The system has made me hard as rock.

Plus he does not have the intelligence or physical capability to successfully harm a battimamzelle.

[dougla_boy]

pioneer take win yes!

[DionYorker]

pioneer take win yes!

Yeah man.....lol....ah feeling today is going to be real kicks....

[javishm]

nah boi pios u trolling in real life too lmfao....

[pioneer]

Ah yes, this week he officially sent in his resignation, HR was so thrilled they sponsored a "going away" luncheon carded for today. Caterers are setting as I type this in our board room.

He thinks it's all for him, little does he realise we are actually celebrating his departure.

I have never seen a vacancy filled so quick, HR confirmed they are sending a replacement on monday, so even if he tries to get back his job he will have zero opportunity to do so and they would throw the regulations and policy book at him lol.

[dougla_boy]

Ah yes, this week he officially sent in his resignation, HR was so thrilled they sponsored a "going away" luncheon carded for today. Caterers are setting as I type this in our board room.

He thinks it's all for him, little does he realise we are actually celebrating his departure.

I have never seen a vacancy filled so quick, HR confirmed they are sending a replacement on monday, so even if he tries to get back his job he will have zero opportunity to do so and they would throw the regulations and policy book at him lol.

teach me

[Ted_v2]

Bess woman in that office? Pixss

[DionYorker]

^^^^

Free lunch and come Monday fresh MEAT to troll or hunt....yuh probably in freaking heaven

[nismodriver]

Do the due process. Document, coach, document, warn, document and if u need to, let go. Ensure you do everything you can to work with the employee to rectify. Need to give a fair chance. But if u let go, some people are better fit in different environments and jobs. Just part of worklife

[pioneer]

Heaven it is

I didn't immediately understand why HR was so happy, but I got to find out he used to keep complaining that he was being discriminated against because he did some computer literacy 3 day course and so he demanded more pay, claiming he was more qualified than others.

Some people may remember some months back I posted about a coworker who was racially abusive towards me, well this is the SAME guy. I will try to find the thread.

Everyone is so happy today, I haven't even unlocked my desk for the day because we're kickin back lol.

[saxman642]

Thank God it's Friday, eh Pios?

[brams112]

this is why i said fak away with unions, thank God theres no union where i wuk, yuh play d rass, dem FIRE yuh kant.
it wuks out sweet- no setta lazy a5s, late coming, watless labourers by me, you either show up to wuk on time and put in a fair days wuk or bye bye.

If all workers put out for the money they demanding things will go nice,imagine workers in the port doing their jobs downtown the last man on a supply chain,things may not be expensive.

[pioneer]

Ah yes, we've been freed of this disease.

Healing starts from monday, we already asked the cleaner to sanitise his desk

Hope things work out for you OP

[brams112]

Nothing beats chaining up a stupid worker,dog and bone syndrome,lol.

[pioneer]

Heaven it is

I didn't immediately understand why HR was so happy, but I got to find out he used to keep complaining that he was being discriminated against because he did some computer literacy 3 day course and so he demanded more pay, claiming he was more qualified than others.

Some people may remember some months back I posted about a coworker who was racially abusive towards me, well this is the SAME guy. I will try to find the thread.

Everyone is so happy today, I haven't even unlocked my desk for the day because we're kickin back lol.

This is the post I was referring to, same guy who constantly made racist comments towards me

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=499337&hilit=ole+jack+resign&start=570

Just yesterday I was subject to another pseudo-racist comment. An indian guy wearing a fitted hat came in to get some information and peacefully left, one black boy then told me that he dunno why indian fellas feel they bad all of a sudden, is prolly all that super cat they listening to.

Everyone watch him like wtf? So i asked him if ah indian fella take he gyul from him...he then get all hot an sweaty sayin he is ah dan we enno who he is and nobody cud ever take he gyul from him...everyone chuckled and we confirmed that ah indian fella did take he gyul.

Matter of fact the majority of anti-indo comments come from him. He believes the worst thing to happen to trinidad was the PP govt. i told him i'd put money on his birthday instead, he didn't get that one yet.