New human species identified from Kenya fossils

[Humes]

Mutation is a positive thing when it results in an advanced creature. Did we not lose our tailbones (that helped us to swim) as part of our evolutionary development? Did it not make us poorer swimmers than our other family (cousins?) who remained in the sea.

No, mutation is a random thing that results in a slightly different individual creature. Evolution perpetuates the mutation that better equips a species to survive and thrive in their specific environment.

The loss of tailbones happened to a species that predates humanity and primates so much that your use of "us, we, our" etc is kinda ridiculous. Species that lost their tails lost them because they were no longer necessary to survive and thrive. They were land-based, and no longer needed to swim. Their legs would have developed as their tails shrank.

Whatever mutations early humans experienced might not have taken place in other families of primates. Or, they might have taken place, but would not have proved beneficial to said species.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Scientists speculate that life may have arisen as a result of random chemical processes happening to produce self-replicating molecules. One of the popular current hypotheses involves chemical reactivity around hydrothermal vents."

What about the origin of the chemical substances involved in the chemical reaction?

a chemical substance is a form of matter. We are made up of chemical substances like carbon, oxygen, and calcium.

if your next question is 'where did matter come from?" the answer would be:

all the matter in the universe came from a symmetry violation in the universe from very near the beginning. It was a very small effect. For every billion antiparticles that were created, there were a billion and one particles. Eventually, all of antiparticles annihilated with almost all of the particles, leaving the one part in a billion to make all of the "stuff" that we now see.

To put it another way, you and I are the result of a roundoff error from around 10^-35 seconds after the big bang.

[Bizzare]

you don't find it hard to believe that the randomness explained in all your responses is responsible for the intelligence we see in creation here on earth. We have a brain capable of making choices. I highly doubt (not disbelieve) that's the result of an error.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

you don't find it hard to believe that the randomness explained in all your responses is responsible for the intelligence we see in creation here on earth.

no

you assume the way we are is the only way we could have turned out.
If we were different we would not know!

one tiny change and we could have had 3 nostrils. How do you know we not supposed to have 3 nostrils or 4 elbows or the ability to fly?

and it is not randomness. We are the way we are through NATURAL SELECTION. It is more adaptive for us to have near symmetry on the outside and so have 2 nostrils and 2 ears.

The length of our arms is not random either.

but answer me this, while talking about randomness, why do you think we were created with 2 elbows and not 4? Why does a platypus lay eggs?

Why are land animals and birds dependent on fresh water, but 2/3 of the earth is salt water that they cannot drink. Is that intelligent design?

or is it that the salt water is there and fresh water is there and the animals that live in either consume respectively based on how they have evolved to their environment?

[Humes]

you don't find it hard to believe that the randomness explained in all your responses is responsible for the intelligence we see in creation here on earth. We have a brain capable of making choices. I highly doubt (not disbelieve) that's the result of an error.

Whoever said anything about an "error"?

A random event isn't an error. A process of adaptation, growth and development over a period of billions of years isn't an error. It's just the way it happened.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ well that's putting it as succinctly as possible

[Strauss]

The article is saying that multiple species of primates (the say "humans" out of belief that we evolved from such) co-existed and the most successful survived and continued to evolve into modern day humans.

Ok I forgot to add the word "modern". I meant to ask why isn't it possible that modern day humans co-existed with ancient primates.

Modern Humans could have existed in this very same anatomy since the beginning of time. There is possibly no evolution with humans. All those discoveries are simply other species of primates which are now extinct. Just as we have chimpanzees, baboons, etc

Yes there was big news a while back stating that all species of man exited roughly around the same time. i.e. one didn't give rise to the other while becoming extinct.

[DFC]

brb gonna google the word "succinctly"

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

The article is saying that multiple species of primates (the say "humans" out of belief that we evolved from such) co-existed and the most successful survived and continued to evolve into modern day humans.

Ok I forgot to add the word "modern". I meant to ask why isn't it possible that modern day humans co-existed with ancient primates.

Modern Humans could have existed in this very same anatomy since the beginning of time. There is possibly no evolution with humans. All those discoveries are simply other species of primates which are now extinct. Just as we have chimpanzees, baboons, etc

Yes there was big news a while back stating that all species of man exited roughly around the same time. i.e. one didn't give rise to the other while becoming extinct.

there were many other species of primates which coexisted with our ancestors.

However our ancestors were not always modern humans.