2012 Ford Ranger Heavy t license required?

[pugboy]

damn right about that

I put some extra weight in my tray, made a difference and got rid of the bounciness

The bigger danger is driving those vehicles umladen rather than laden..

I cringe seeing all those clueless ladies and young drivers in dey pickups..

Such an archaic law established at a time when donkey carts, carriages and model T vans etc were heavy goods vehicles .

Also we have some Nissan NV 350s etc and I can tell you they are not blasted heavy vehicles !! 3 tons and up by all means..

[metalgear2095]

What does the test involve? Is it easy for an experienced driver? Can you bring your own vehicle? Can you drive an automatic?

[pugboy]

the reversing may be hardest part if you only drive car before

[metalgear2095]

the reversing may be hardest part if you only drive car before

Only ever drove cars and haven't driven manual in almost 20 years

[pugboy]

better let the ranger sales rep organize you
cash only

the reversing may be hardest part if you only drive car before

Only ever drove cars and haven't driven manual in almost 20 years

[Ben_spanna]

We are so backwards, you require a Heavy T legally to drive a stupid 4 door pickup, yet you can drive a Kia k2700 long bed pickup with a regular license!

What a jokey system! Yes i know its due to the weight, but that doesnt matter when turning and manouvering in close quarters

[metalgear2095]

the photo man in sando told me $4500 no written or practical exam.... Madness

[pugboy]

wow, inflation. I think it was $2500

but then again if yuh buying a vehicle close to 400k then what is 2500

the photo man in sando told me $4500 no written or practical exam.... Madness

[hindian]

We are so backwards, you require a Heavy T legally to drive a stupid 4 door pickup, yet you can drive a Kia k2700 long bed pickup with a regular license!

What a jokey system! Yes i know its due to the weight, but that doesnt matter when turning and manouvering in close quarters

I think it has something to do the the weights of the actual vehicle and their payload capacity and some sort of maths between the two figures what permit class the vehicle falls into, I think. Someone here might be able to inform the less knowledgeable of us about how they determine the class in which a vehicle will fall into

[pugboy]

it is weight only, mgw, once over 2954kg it is heavy T category, cant remember the upper limit but that would take you into trailer trucks

We are so backwards, you require a Heavy T legally to drive a stupid 4 door pickup, yet you can drive a Kia k2700 long bed pickup with a regular license!

What a jokey system! Yes i know its due to the weight, but that doesnt matter when turning and manouvering in close quarters

I think it has something to do the the weights of the actual vehicle and their payload capacity and some sort of maths between the two figures what permit class the vehicle falls into, I think. Someone here might be able to inform the less knowledgeable of us about how they determine the class in which a vehicle will fall into

[hindian]

it is weight only, mgw, once over 2954kg it is heavy T category, cant remember the upper limit but that would take you into trailer trucks

We are so backwards, you require a Heavy T legally to drive a stupid 4 door pickup, yet you can drive a Kia k2700 long bed pickup with a regular license!

What a jokey system! Yes i know its due to the weight, but that doesnt matter when turning and manouvering in close quarters

I think it has something to do the the weights of the actual vehicle and their payload capacity and some sort of maths between the two figures what permit class the vehicle falls into, I think. Someone here might be able to inform the less knowledgeable of us about how they determine the class in which a vehicle will fall into

Right but that MGW of 2954kg is when you add the payload weight the vehicle is designed to carry that’s why you subtract the TARE from the MGW to know how much you can legally carry by law in terms of weight. I actually think it’s the TARE weight that determines the class of permit required to operate said vehicle. Again, I could just be talking out of my behind so I subject myself to correction

[metalgear2095]

Nah I'm buying used.

[*KRONIK*]

No
Its just MGW
Our regulations use the MGW to determine class.

Load capacity is the one you need calculate as the user :
MGW minus TARE

[*KRONIK*]

Figures here for classes 3,4&5

[pugboy]

when I did the regs in 90s, the booklet/exam was still in pounds 6500 which is 2954
seems they rounded it down to 2950

it is mgw simply because the concern is of the total hunk of metal/goods load that you are in control of and could be danger to others, not what you are carrying as load.

[pugboy]

at $4500 better do the exam, but the vehicles you do the test in from them instructors is likely to be manual

Nah I'm buying used.

[metalgear2095]

at $4500 better do the exam, but the vehicles you do the test in from them instructors is likely to be manual

Nah I'm buying used.

$2500 if you write the exam

[pugboy]

i say you don’t sort out this already

at $4500 better do the exam, but the vehicles you do the test in from them instructors is likely to be manual

Nah I'm buying used.

$2500 if you write the exam

[metalgear2095]

Got through Tuesday. Had to drive a manual truck. Something I've not done in over 20 years.

[*KRONIK*]

Got through Tuesday. Had to drive a manual truck. Something I've not done in over 20 years.

How much yuh pay?

[VII]

It's all based on old horse carriage and wagon wheel trucks of the early to mid 20th century, they were the 'heavy' vehicles of the time. It' just boils down to outdated laws and outdated methods of governing again.

Basically because a Ranger etc is capable of carrying what a 'heavy' truck from the 40s etc could carry (a few drums,1 or 2 pallets loads ) its in the heavy category with no consideration of factors such as vastly improved modern vehicle ability, stability safety features and general capability etc, over the last 40+ years !

Outdated laws, outdated leadership methods with no consideration for what's right in front them and literal blindness and tunnel vison by those in authority continue to be our downfall as a country.

Sickening would be an understatement..they f@cking dotish and dunce no mudda #@%+ ..

[VII]

It's kinda like when they were giving tickets for HIDs and LEDs etc because that was the law..


Those idiots in authority are totally disconnected from reality and have no appreciation for advancements in mechanical and other technology relating to transportation and civil engineering etc ..they are only advised by their dumb outdated books of guidelines..

[j.o.e]

It's kinda like when they were giving tickets for HIDs and LEDs etc because that was the law..


Those idiots in authority are totally disconnected from reality and have no appreciation for advancements in mechanical and other technology relating to transportation and civil engineering etc ..they are only advised by their dumb outdated books of guidelines..

You should see headlights laws in the US

[adnj]

It's all based on old horse carriage and wagon wheel trucks of the early to mid 20th century, they were the 'heavy' vehicles of time. It's just boils down to outdated laws and outdated methods of governing again.

Basically because a Ranger etc is capable of carrying what a 'heavy' truck from the 40s etc could carry (a few drums,1 or 2 pallets loads ) its in the heavy category with no consideration of factors such as vastly improved modern vehicle ability, stability safety features and general capability etc, over the last 40+ years !

Outdated laws, outdated leadership methods with no consideration for what's right in front them and literal blindness and tunnel vison by those in authority continue to be our downfall as a country.

Sickening would be an understatement..they f@cking dotish and dunce no mudda #@%+ ..

I was of the impression that Class 4 was >2950 kg GVWR and the Ford Ranger was 2750 kg GVWR.

[*KRONIK*]

It's all based on old horse carriage and wagon wheel trucks of the early to mid 20th century, they were the 'heavy' vehicles of time. It's just boils down to outdated laws and outdated methods of governing again.

Basically because a Ranger etc is capable of carrying what a 'heavy' truck from the 40s etc could carry (a few drums,1 or 2 pallets loads ) its in the heavy category with no consideration of factors such as vastly improved modern vehicle ability, stability safety features and general capability etc, over the last 40+ years !

Outdated laws, outdated leadership methods with no consideration for what's right in front them and literal blindness and tunnel vison by those in authority continue to be our downfall as a country.

Sickening would be an understatement..they f@cking dotish and dunce no mudda #@%+ ..

I was of the impression that Class 4 was >2950 kg GVWR and the Ford Ranger was 2750 kg GVWR.

The 4x2 ranger is less
But the 4x4 is 3200kgs

[adnj]

It's all based on old horse carriage and wagon wheel trucks of the early to mid 20th century, they were the 'heavy' vehicles of time. It's just boils down to outdated laws and outdated methods of governing again.

Basically because a Ranger etc is capable of carrying what a 'heavy' truck from the 40s etc could carry (a few drums,1 or 2 pallets loads ) its in the heavy category with no consideration of factors such as vastly improved modern vehicle ability, stability safety features and general capability etc, over the last 40+ years !

Outdated laws, outdated leadership methods with no consideration for what's right in front them and literal blindness and tunnel vison by those in authority continue to be our downfall as a country.

Sickening would be an understatement..they f@cking dotish and dunce no mudda #@%+ ..

I was of the impression that Class 4 was >2950 kg GVWR and the Ford Ranger was 2750 kg GVWR.

The 4x2 ranger is less
But the 4x4 is 3200kgs

Thanks.

[pugboy]

the actual mgw is 6500lbs eh
so convert that to 2954 not 2950 pls

[kamakazi]

It's all based on old horse carriage and wagon wheel trucks of the early to mid 20th century, they were the 'heavy' vehicles of the time. It' just boils down to outdated laws and outdated methods of governing again.

Basically because a Ranger etc is capable of carrying what a 'heavy' truck from the 40s etc could carry (a few drums,1 or 2 pallets loads ) its in the heavy category with no consideration of factors such as vastly improved modern vehicle ability, stability safety features and general capability etc, over the last 40+ years !

Outdated laws, outdated leadership methods with no consideration for what's right in front them and literal blindness and tunnel vison by those in authority continue to be our downfall as a country.

Sickening would be an understatement..they f@cking dotish and dunce no mudda #@%+ ..

Vans still have old technology in them, and the laws of physics don't change.
Ladder frame, solid rear axle, drum brakes, leaf springs.
Heavier vehicles are still harder to stop or steer than lighter vehicles.

[VII]

Any vehicle with a combustion engine, a transmission with drive shafts and a differential has 'old technology' , and the laws of physics aren't limited to fully loaded cushy small light pickups being purported to be heavy trucks .

Also ladder frame chassis aren't limited to 4 door 4x4 'heavy-T pickups alone , and on the contrary it's the modern capabilities of such pickups that has inadvertantly categorized them as 'heavy' in our archaic system.

[kamakazi]

More weight is harder to slow down and turn; it is that simple.