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Re: The LGBTQ/Pride Debate Take 2

Postby bluefete » January 12th, 2024, 5:55 pm

WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?

American Academy of Pediatrics says denying gender affirming care to trans children is 'CHILD ABUSE'

America's leading pediatricians have sparked controversy after suggesting that it is child abuse to deny gender-affirming care to minors.

The influential American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) said that ‘withholding [gender-affirming care] is harmful to children and amounts to state-sanctioned medical neglect and emotional abuse.’

The AAP made the claim in a consensus statement published in late December and the declaration was in response to a wave of age restrictions on puberty-blocking drugs and surgeries for children in Republican states.

Vanderbilt University froze all gender-affirming care for children in 2022 after a specialist at the hospital was found touting transition surgeries as ‘huge money makers’ for their boss.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... ABUSE.html

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Postby adnj » January 12th, 2024, 6:37 pm

I heard that South Africa plans on filing a complaint with the ICJ against the State of Tennessee for gendercide.

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Postby bluefete » January 22nd, 2024, 8:46 pm

This poor, poor baby. His/her life will be so flicking confusing.

The Telegraph
Trans man about to have sex change operation found to be five-months pregnant
Nick Squires
Mon, January 22, 2024

An Italian who was transitioning to become a man was found to be five-months pregnant after undergoing a mastectomy.

The individual, who had assumed the male name Marco, was at an advanced stage of the sex-change process having had his breasts removed.

He had been due to have a hysterectomy to remove his uterus before the pregnancy was discovered by doctors at a hospital in Rome.

Thought to be the first case of its kind in Italy, the surprise discovery has raised concerns about the welfare of the baby and whether the foetus has been affected by the procedures that Marco has undergone to date.

“Once the pregnancy is discovered, the first thing to do is to immediately suspend the hormone therapy,” said Giulia Senofonte, an endocrinologist and expert on gender therapy.

“If the halting of the therapy is not immediate, there could be consequences, especially in the first trimester of pregnancy, which is an important time for the development of the baby’s organs.

“It’s difficult to talk about it in abstract terms but it all depends on the timing of the suspension of the dosages of testosterone that the person is taking.”

Doctors are also worried about the impact on Marco, who has begun to exhibit male physical characteristics, including additional body hair growth and the ability to grow a beard.

Cardiological risk
Some experts believe high levels of both male and female hormones in a person’s body can pose a cardiological risk, heightening the prospect of heart attacks and strokes, although there is a lack of conclusive research on the subject.

Marco is now expected to go through with the pregnancy and give birth to the baby.

Under Italian law, an abortion after 90 days is only allowed if the pregnancy seriously endangers the health of the mother or if there are significant problems with the foetus.

Marco will be the baby’s biological mother but will be registered legally as its father. (WTH?)

The unusual case makes him a member of a tiny category of people known as “seahorse dads” – transgender men who carry babies. The term is derived from the fact that among seahorses, it is the male which carries and gives birth to young.

Marco had never felt comfortable as a woman and had decided some years ago to change gender.

“Hormonal therapy blocks the menstrual cycle but is not a contraceptive,” Dr Senofonte told the La Repubblica newspaper, which first revealed the case.

“The person can continue to ovulate and as a result, run the risk of getting pregnant. Experts who oversee these transitions normally recommend contraceptive pills that can be taken during the therapy.”

The president of Pro Vita e Famiglia, a conservative Catholic foundation, said he hoped Marco would decide to halt his therapy permanently.

“The gender fluidity theory is total madness,” said Toni Brandi. “It’s against science and against nature. This case is a challenge for gender theories because it shows a woman is a woman.”

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trans-m ... 32320.html

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Postby redmanjp » January 23rd, 2024, 12:46 pm

surgery should be postponed not only till birth but till after breastfeeding- assuming 'he' still have breasts and producing milk.

and we should be using quotes anytime we call them (f2m trans) 'men' or say 'his'. not go along with the delusion.

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Re: The LGBTQ/Pride Debate Take 2

Postby bluefete » April 3rd, 2024, 1:03 pm

Yes, folks. It is hitting very close to home now.

Super Netball star Sam Wallace-Joseph apologises for transgender post on social media

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New South Wales Swifts netballer Samantha Wallace-Joseph has apologised for a social media post that caused offence to the trans community. Photograph: Jenny Evans/Getty Images for Netball Australia

New South Wales Swifts netballer Samantha Wallace-Joseph has apologised for a social media post that caused hurt to members of the transgender community, saying it was “taken out of context”.

The Trinidad and Tobago shooter shared an Instagram post suggesting US president Joe Biden had declared Easter Sunday as Transgender Day of Visibility, even though it was a coincidence both fell on the same date this year.

She added a comment saying “the disrespect is crazy. Don’t play with God.”


Following widespread criticism, the 30-year-old met with club officials and issued a joint statement on Tuesday.

“It was not my intention to upset and disrespect anybody and whilst I feel my post was taken out of context, I didn’t say what I meant clearly,” she said.

“I did not wish to cause any offence to members of the transgender community, and it is clear that I have and for that, I am sorry.”

Swifts executive general manager Kath Tetley said the club wanted to be “a safe and inclusive space for all”.

“We are also committed to the ongoing education required to ensure there is a common understanding among all of the cultures and communities that make up the Swifts,” she said.

Proud2Play and the Swifts collaborated on a Pride-themed match during Super Netball’s first Inclusion Round last year.

Chief executive of Proud2Play, Christine Granger, told ABC Sport the comments were harmful towards a community that already suffered “extreme” levels of discrimination.

“It is vital that role models in sports understand the power their voices hold and the impact they can have on individuals and communities in both a positive and negative way,” she said.

The shooter’s comments came after attacks on Biden from former president Donald Trump and Republican allies.

A White House spokesperson said on Monday Republicans who spent the weekend criticising the president “are seeking to divide and weaken our country with cruel, hateful and dishonest rhetoric”.

Netball Australia is currently assessing Wallace-Joseph’s post under its code of conduct.

The shooter was the Swifts’ leading goalscorer in 2021 but injured her knee the following season, forcing her to spend more than a year on the sidelines.

The Swifts play the Giants in a pre-season match on Wednesday, before the Super Netball season commences on 13 April.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... media-post

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Postby Mmoney607 » April 3rd, 2024, 1:13 pm

They big and bad until the white man threaten to withhold their food

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Postby bluefete » April 3rd, 2024, 1:19 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:They big and bad until the white man threaten to withhold their food


LOL. We need more Irfaan Ali's.

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Postby Les Bain » April 3rd, 2024, 3:39 pm

Transgender date of visibility has been a set date for years. It was pure coincidence Easter fell the same day this year, unless god 'gone woke and pushing the agenda'.

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Postby Dizzy28 » April 3rd, 2024, 4:32 pm

Les Bain wrote:Transgender date of visibility has been a set date for years. It was pure coincidence Easter fell the same day this year, unless god 'gone woke and pushing the agenda'.


How much days is too much days though?
May 17 - International Day against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia
June - Entire month for LGBTQ
Oct 19 - National LGBT Centre Awareness Day
1st Sunday in Nov - Transgender Parent Day
Nov 13 - 19 - Transgender Awarneness Week
Nov 20 - Transgender Day of Rememberance

For a supposedly minority group they sure do have a lot of days to celebrate every and anything.

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Postby maj. tom » April 3rd, 2024, 4:43 pm

And every month has a new moon and a full moon. But nobody requires or forces me to do anything about it either. Don't even have to observe it. Don't even have to care. Not even affected. Sometimes my birthday will fall on a Full Moon. The idea of a gay moon bothers me though so I watch Fox news day and night to know when to be outraged at it. A time they tell me that black people get a whole month and they are a minority! Yeah right!

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Postby Dizzy28 » April 3rd, 2024, 4:50 pm

maj. tom wrote:And every month has a new moon and a full moon. But nobody requires or forces me to do anything about it either. Don't even have to observe it. Don't even have to care. Not even affected. Sometimes my birthday will fall on a Full Moon. The idea of a gay moon bothers me though so I watch Fox news day and night to know when to be outraged at it. A time they tell me that black people get a whole month and they are a minority! Yeah right!


Why am I not surprised you would run in as the first line of defence.

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Postby maj. tom » April 3rd, 2024, 4:57 pm

Not seeing anything to defend, and you shouldn't be surprised. Unless those days of observances really affecting you and you really really have a problem with them, most people don't even know about or care what other people do on those days.

I didn't even know it had these days until today two Trinituner posts ago and still not affected now. Fox News lapsing these days since the Dominion lawsuit, thinking about switching to OAN to get my daily constant nonsense outrage about shiet that doesn't actually matter to anyone in real life. I find Fox rel lapse on the woke AI thing a few weeks ago.

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Postby Habit7 » April 3rd, 2024, 5:29 pm

Les Bain wrote:Transgender date of visibility has been a set date for years. It was pure coincidence Easter fell the same day this year, unless god 'gone woke and pushing the agenda'.

If a day celebrating eating pork falls on Eid and the US govt celebrates Pork Day while also having a Eid celebration at the White House but ensuring that is devoid of all religious symbolism, it would be an outrage.

While the Trans day fell on Easter Sunday, the POTUS chose to platform Trans visibility which offends Christians while having a sacrilegious Easter Egg Roll devoid of Christianity lest non Christians are offended.

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Postby paid_influencer » April 3rd, 2024, 5:32 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:They big and bad until the white man threaten to withhold their food

:faint:

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Postby Les Bain » April 3rd, 2024, 6:56 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Les Bain wrote:Transgender date of visibility has been a set date for years. It was pure coincidence Easter fell the same day this year, unless god 'gone woke and pushing the agenda'.

If a day celebrating eating pork falls on Eid and the US govt celebrates Pork Day while also having a Eid celebration at the White House but ensuring that is devoid of all religious symbolism, it would be an outrage.

While the Trans day fell on Easter Sunday, the POTUS chose to platform Trans visibility which offends Christians while having a sacrilegious Easter Egg Roll devoid of Christianity lest non Christians are offended.


Wrong person to hit with that talk. Religion is a pox, especially Christianity.

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Postby Habit7 » April 3rd, 2024, 10:28 pm

Ok. Just explaining it is more than just the Trans day coincidentally falling on Easter.

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Postby 88sins » April 4th, 2024, 7:22 pm

bluefete wrote:This poor, poor baby. His/her life will be so flicking confusing.

The Telegraph
Trans man about to have sex change operation found to be five-months pregnant
Nick Squires
Mon, January 22, 2024

An Italian who was transitioning to become a man was found to be five-months pregnant after undergoing a mastectomy.

The individual, who had assumed the male name Marco, was at an advanced stage of the sex-change process having had his breasts removed.

He had been due to have a hysterectomy to remove his uterus before the pregnancy was discovered by doctors at a hospital in Rome.

Thought to be the first case of its kind in Italy, the surprise discovery has raised concerns about the welfare of the baby and whether the foetus has been affected by the procedures that Marco has undergone to date.

“Once the pregnancy is discovered, the first thing to do is to immediately suspend the hormone therapy,” said Giulia Senofonte, an endocrinologist and expert on gender therapy.

“If the halting of the therapy is not immediate, there could be consequences, especially in the first trimester of pregnancy, which is an important time for the development of the baby’s organs.

“It’s difficult to talk about it in abstract terms but it all depends on the timing of the suspension of the dosages of testosterone that the person is taking.”

Doctors are also worried about the impact on Marco, who has begun to exhibit male physical characteristics, including additional body hair growth and the ability to grow a beard.

Cardiological risk
Some experts believe high levels of both male and female hormones in a person’s body can pose a cardiological risk, heightening the prospect of heart attacks and strokes, although there is a lack of conclusive research on the subject.

Marco is now expected to go through with the pregnancy and give birth to the baby.

Under Italian law, an abortion after 90 days is only allowed if the pregnancy seriously endangers the health of the mother or if there are significant problems with the foetus.

Marco will be the baby’s biological mother but will be registered legally as its father. (WTH?)

The unusual case makes him a member of a tiny category of people known as “seahorse dads” – transgender men who carry babies. The term is derived from the fact that among seahorses, it is the male which carries and gives birth to young.

Marco had never felt comfortable as a woman and had decided some years ago to change gender.

“Hormonal therapy blocks the menstrual cycle but is not a contraceptive,” Dr Senofonte told the La Repubblica newspaper, which first revealed the case.

“The person can continue to ovulate and as a result, run the risk of getting pregnant. Experts who oversee these transitions normally recommend contraceptive pills that can be taken during the therapy.”

The president of Pro Vita e Famiglia, a conservative Catholic foundation, said he hoped Marco would decide to halt his therapy permanently.

“The gender fluidity theory is total madness,” said Toni Brandi. “It’s against science and against nature. This case is a challenge for gender theories because it shows a woman is a woman.”

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trans-m ... 32320.html


that scene wrt the preggers girl-dude is going to either a stupendous joke, or a brilliant tragedy, or a wake up call to reality. Time will tell.
But as a side note.
Hormone imbalances, both high and low, can and do come with some serious health issues. Cardiac, vascular problems, cancer, just to list a few.
So, imho, let whoever wants to go do whatever go ahead. As long as they understand, I won't be participating in their delusions, I don't really care who cut off/out what when or why

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Postby redmanjp » April 4th, 2024, 7:39 pm

if another human being in the making is involved then he/she shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they feel if it means harming that human being.

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Postby 88sins » April 4th, 2024, 9:41 pm

redmanjp wrote:if another human being in the making is involved then he/she shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they feel if it means harming that human being.


Simple and practical enough.
But the alphabet people eh want nuttn to do with that

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » April 18th, 2024, 9:37 am

Not sure if this fits here, but this is definitely a first world problem


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Postby maj. tom » April 18th, 2024, 9:46 am

Right wing radio manufactured outrage. Like with Joe Rogan and the Kitty Litter in schools Furries outrage lie. Rush Limbaugh is proud.

Fact check: Nebo School District responds to claims about student protest over ‘furries’

https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2024/04/17/fact-check-nebo-school-district/
Conservative radio host Adam Bartholomew, who shared video of the walkout to X, wrote in a post that the student who organized the protest told him student “furries” were biting, scratching and spraying “human repellent” at other students, “and when a student retaliates they are the one who gets suspended.”

Nebo School District spokesperson Seth Sorenson said that claim was false. He also said students at the middle school are not wearing full-body animal costumes to class, as “furries” — part of a subculture of people who sometimes dress up like animal characters but act like humans — are known to do.

But by about 4 p.m. Wednesday, Bartholomew’s video and claims had been picked up and spread by Libs of TikTok, an account on X that shares anti-LGBTQ posts and other clips geared at generating right-wing outrage. Bartholomew is married to Cari Bartholomew, who is running as a far-right candidate for the Utah State Board of Education in District 13.

“Students claim that the furries bite them, bark at them, and pounce on them without repercussion,” the Libs of TikTok post read. “However, if they defend themselves in any way, they get in trouble.”

Dismissing those claims, Sorenson said the Wednesday protest seemed to be organized after a district message sent to families last week was misinterpreted.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » April 18th, 2024, 9:59 am

^ I have to google "what is a furry"

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Postby Chimera » April 18th, 2024, 10:25 am

yuh see anything yuh interested in or wanna try?

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Postby redmanjp » April 18th, 2024, 2:43 pm

maj. tom wrote:Right wing radio manufactured outrage. Like with Joe Rogan and the Kitty Litter in schools Furries outrage lie. Rush Limbaugh is proud.

Fact check: Nebo School District responds to claims about student protest over ‘furries’

https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2024/04/17/fact-check-nebo-school-district/
Conservative radio host Adam Bartholomew, who shared video of the walkout to X, wrote in a post that the student who organized the protest told him student “furries” were biting, scratching and spraying “human repellent” at other students, “and when a student retaliates they are the one who gets suspended.”

Nebo School District spokesperson Seth Sorenson said that claim was false. He also said students at the middle school are not wearing full-body animal costumes to class, as “furries” — part of a subculture of people who sometimes dress up like animal characters but act like humans — are known to do.

But by about 4 p.m. Wednesday, Bartholomew’s video and claims had been picked up and spread by Libs of TikTok, an account on X that shares anti-LGBTQ posts and other clips geared at generating right-wing outrage. Bartholomew is married to Cari Bartholomew, who is running as a far-right candidate for the Utah State Board of Education in District 13.

“Students claim that the furries bite them, bark at them, and pounce on them without repercussion,” the Libs of TikTok post read. “However, if they defend themselves in any way, they get in trouble.”

Dismissing those claims, Sorenson said the Wednesday protest seemed to be organized after a district message sent to families last week was misinterpreted.


so all those kids including the one who had a scratch from them lying ?

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Postby maj. tom » April 18th, 2024, 2:59 pm

You could email the school and find out.

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Postby redmanjp » April 18th, 2024, 3:59 pm

if anyone lying i would say is the crazy side not the normal ppl

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Postby adnj » April 18th, 2024, 4:10 pm

redmanjp wrote:if anyone lying i would say is the crazy side not the normal ppl


I heard that normal people lie like they're crazy all the time.

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Postby maj. tom » April 18th, 2024, 4:13 pm

redmanjp wrote:if anyone lying i would say is the crazy side not the normal ppl
Well once you're totally outraged at something that didn't happen and doesn't affect you, be sure to donate some money too.

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Postby bluefete » May 7th, 2024, 5:57 pm

At Last!!!

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Postby redmanjp » May 8th, 2024, 3:01 pm

^source? not seeing any article about it

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