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Too bad there isn't a vax for stupiditysMASH wrote:If ur not boosted ur not vaxed.
Waiting on the people with 6 jabs to start blaming the people with 4 jabs for getting them infected.
Just like the flu shot, if u don't take it every year ur 34 times more likely to get hospitalized or death
Have u taken ur covid booster?wing wrote:Too bad there isn't a vax for stupiditysMASH wrote:If ur not boosted ur not vaxed.
Waiting on the people with 6 jabs to start blaming the people with 4 jabs for getting them infected.
Just like the flu shot, if u don't take it every year ur 34 times more likely to get hospitalized or death
Infection acquired immunity wanes over time just as vaccine induced immunity does. Good luck later on in life.redmanjp wrote:don't really need a flu jab twice a year as flu has a limited season. covid is year round.
regarding natural immunity- yeah it protects u but from a later subsequent infection - u have to survive the first on your own without adaptive immunity is not vaxxed. just like it takes 2 weeks for vax immunity to develop it probably takes 2 weeks to develop natural immunity- so the virus has 2 weeks to do what it wants inside u because the immune system doesn't recognise it so if u dont have enough innate immunity (you 're old or have NCDS) hard luck.
but after surviving that first infection weeks later u may actually have 13 times better immunity than vax alone. (hybrid immunity i.e. both vaxxed and infection is the best tho)
Not "just" like.adnj wrote:Infection acquired immunity wanes over time just as vaccine induced immunity does. Good luck later on in life.redmanjp wrote:don't really need a flu jab twice a year as flu has a limited season. covid is year round.
regarding natural immunity- yeah it protects u but from a later subsequent infection - u have to survive the first on your own without adaptive immunity is not vaxxed. just like it takes 2 weeks for vax immunity to develop it probably takes 2 weeks to develop natural immunity- so the virus has 2 weeks to do what it wants inside u because the immune system doesn't recognise it so if u dont have enough innate immunity (you 're old or have NCDS) hard luck.
but after surviving that first infection weeks later u may actually have 13 times better immunity than vax alone. (hybrid immunity i.e. both vaxxed and infection is the best tho)
Antivax beliefs are a win-win for the survivors. It's just one of society's weapons in the push to reduce stupidity and overpopulation.
sMASH wrote:Not "just" like.
It wanes,Yes. But 27 times less than vax induced immunity.
And hear this, how can u call a vaccine a vaccine if ur MORE susceptible to reinfection than if u didnt take the jab?
#cdc
Alltuh selling dreams... Lol
Dohplaydat wrote:Haven't we realised by now that natural immunity is better than vax immunity so there's really no point to taking the Vax anymore.
adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Not "just" like.
It wanes,Yes. But 27 times less than vax induced immunity.
And hear this, how can u call a vaccine a vaccine if ur MORE susceptible to reinfection than if u didnt take the jab?
#cdc
Alltuh selling dreams... Lol
27 is a made-up number.
Increased susceptibility to infection because of vaccination is a lie.
drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Not "just" like.
It wanes,Yes. But 27 times less than vax induced immunity.
And hear this, how can u call a vaccine a vaccine if ur MORE susceptible to reinfection than if u didnt take the jab?
#cdc
Alltuh selling dreams... Lol
27 is a made-up number.
Increased susceptibility to infection because of vaccination is a lie.
Just like how you lied or made up the fact that Influenza and RSV mutate at the same rate as Covid?
adnj wrote:drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Not "just" like.
It wanes,Yes. But 27 times less than vax induced immunity.
And hear this, how can u call a vaccine a vaccine if ur MORE susceptible to reinfection than if u didnt take the jab?
#cdc
Alltuh selling dreams... Lol
27 is a made-up number.
Increased susceptibility to infection because of vaccination is a lie.
Just like how you lied or made up the fact that Influenza and RSV mutate at the same rate as Covid?
What was posted: Influenza, RSV and COVID have a similar mutation rate.
If you want to risk getting granular, although all RNA viruses mutate at approximately the same rate as a consequence of the number of replications and nucleotides, SARS-CoV-2 has about 30k nucleotides and Influenza A has about 14k.
Influenza A is likely to experience a functional change more rapidly than SARS-CoV-2, all other things being equal.
IIRC, all tracked influenza pandemics in the last century or so have been a consequence of Influenza A.
But because a virus mutates so very rapidly, there can never be a vaccination for it. You posted that.
Hmmph.
drchaos wrote:Further lies ... Please provide the quotes where I said exactly this? That there can never be a vaccination for it.
Continuously lying, just digging yourself into a deeper hole.
Looking forward to the next whimsical falsehood you try to respond to this with.
adnj wrote:drchaos wrote:Further lies ... Please provide the quotes where I said exactly this? That there can never be a vaccination for it.
Continuously lying, just digging yourself into a deeper hole.
Looking forward to the next whimsical falsehood you try to respond to this with.
My error. I believe your exact turn of phrase was "making it near impossible to make a vaccine that works."
I suppose that what you are saying is that that it is "near impossible" to make a COVID-19 "vaccine that works", that it is "near impossible" to make a influenza "vaccine that works", and that it is "near impossible" to make an RSV "vaccine that works".
But since there actually are vaccines for those infections, those vaccines must not be "working." I believe that is the fallacy that you have been struggling to prove all along.
drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:drchaos wrote:Further lies ... Please provide the quotes where I said exactly this? That there can never be a vaccination for it.
Continuously lying, just digging yourself into a deeper hole.
Looking forward to the next whimsical falsehood you try to respond to this with.
My error. I believe your exact turn of phrase was "making it near impossible to make a vaccine that works."
I suppose that what you are saying is that that it is "near impossible" to make a COVID-19 "vaccine that works", that it is "near impossible" to make a influenza "vaccine that works", and that it is "near impossible" to make an RSV "vaccine that works".
But since there actually are vaccines for those infections, those vaccines must not be "working." I believe that is the fallacy that you have been struggling to prove all along.
You see you finally admit you were wrong ... Then you go down digging a hole again with more lies via the "I suppose" route.
I was talking about Covid vaccines and you start lying by adding in RSV and Influenza vaccines in the mix.
Just stop lying ... Why is it so hard??? That way you dont have to keep admitting you are wrong.
Ivermectin is less effective than currently desired.Dohplaydat wrote:
Ivermectin more effective than originally thought, interesting
adnj wrote:Ivermectin is less effective than currently desired.Dohplaydat wrote:x3m4kbeks7mb1.jpg
Ivermectin more effective than originally thought, interesting
Medical experts say the data affirming ivermectin’s use for COVID-19 is insignificant compared to the amount indicating it’s useless. A previous review of 14 ivermectin studies concluded these studies were small and “few are considered high quality.” The researchers say they’re uncertain about the efficacy and safety of the drug and that “reliable evidence” doesn’t support using ivermectin for COVID-19 treatment outside of well-designed randomized trials. Meanwhile, a February 2023 review in Future Virology of some ivermectin-affirming studies explained that some used too-small pools of participants, were rushed, and ignored limitations around how ivermectin is absorbed in the body.
“It must be acknowledged that some of these studies were possibly intentionally designed to yield predetermined findings,” write the researchers.
https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/iverm ... -says/amp/
Dohplaydat wrote:Still ended up being more effective than not taking it.
Just goes to show there was a definite campaign to discredit it and the mainstream media, even most scientists, helped push that.
paid_influencer wrote:i gone through airport and all kinda crowded place overseas whole week on vacation and not a sniffle from me when i come back - covid done
adnj wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:Still ended up being more effective than not taking it.
Just goes to show there was a definite campaign to discredit it and the mainstream media, even most scientists, helped push that.
Ivermectin proved to be as effective as a placebo. Take an aspirin or a dinner mint - same results as taking ivermectin.
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Among many most recent studies are a Journal of the American Medical Association-published randomized ivermectin vs. placebo clinical trial which concluded there was no support for ivermectin use for patients with mild to moderate COVID-19. A February 2023 Duke University researcher-led randomized clinical trial upped the dosage from the previous ivermectin vs. placebo clinical trial — finding there was no difference in efficacy even at a higher dosage.
Other major health organizations advising against use of ivermectin for COVID-19 include: the World Health Organization, European Medicines Agency, Infectious Diseases Society of America, and the U.S. National Institutes of Health. Additionally, pharmaceutical company Merck, a manufacturer of ivermectin, says there’s “no meaningful evidence” to support its use in this way.
https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/iverm ... -says/amp/
drchaos wrote:"The use of aspirin was significantly associated with a reduced risk of mortality among patients with COVID-19"
adnj saying Ivermectin is as effective as taking Aspirin for Covid and Aspirin works for covid ...
SO he is finally admitting that Ivermectin works for COVID 19
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