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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby pugboy » June 15th, 2020, 2:26 pm

plenty lorse eyes in last couple weeks too with them rubber bullet, real sad

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Postby 88sins » June 15th, 2020, 2:46 pm

pugboy wrote:plenty lorse eyes in last couple weeks too with them rubber bullet, real sad

ppl does feel because they call it "rubber bullet" is just a lil sting & yuh walk it off, they don't know them "rubber bullet" could seriously injure & even kill ppl.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby pugboy » June 15th, 2020, 2:56 pm

Them ting is a good size and carrying plenty energy to bounce and ricochet.
I think a news reporter also lost an eye.

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pugboy wrote:plenty lorse eyes in last couple weeks too with them rubber bullet, real sad

ppl does feel because they call it "rubber bullet" is just a lil sting & yuh walk it off, they don't know them "rubber bullet" could seriously injure & even kill ppl.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby zoom rader » June 15th, 2020, 2:57 pm

pugboy wrote:Them ting is a good size and carrying plenty energy to bounce and ricochet.
I think a news reporter also lost an eye.

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pugboy wrote:plenty lorse eyes in last couple weeks too with them rubber bullet, real sad

ppl does feel because they call it "rubber bullet" is just a lil sting & yuh walk it off, they don't know them "rubber bullet" could seriously injure & even kill ppl.
No rubber bullets for PNM ppl in TT

Dem need the real thing

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » June 15th, 2020, 3:20 pm

pugboy wrote:plenty lorse eyes in last couple weeks too with them rubber bullet, real sad


Not sad at all bro.

People have to understand law and order.

If you are protesting peacefully, and your fellow protestors and NOT adhering to curfews and instructions and burning/looting....by you standing in the vicinity with your hands up and playing innocent bystander is just plain boldface and stupid...

If you see violence and trouble, for bluddy sake consider the protest as over and vacate the premises and go home for you own safety.

If not, then stay right there and see what happens.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Dohplaydat » June 15th, 2020, 4:05 pm

MaxPower wrote:
pugboy wrote:plenty lorse eyes in last couple weeks too with them rubber bullet, real sad


Not sad at all bro.

People have to understand law and order.

If you are protesting peacefully, and your fellow protestors and NOT adhering to curfews and instructions and burning/looting....by you standing in the vicinity with your hands up and playing innocent bystander is just plain boldface and stupid...

If you see violence and trouble, for bluddy sake consider the protest as over and vacate the premises and go home for you own safety.

If not, then stay right there and see what happens.


Second of all, protesting in a Pandemic is just so freaking irresponsible.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Slartibartfast » June 15th, 2020, 4:31 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
pugboy wrote:plenty lorse eyes in last couple weeks too with them rubber bullet, real sad


Not sad at all bro.

People have to understand law and order.

If you are protesting peacefully, and your fellow protestors and NOT adhering to curfews and instructions and burning/looting....by you standing in the vicinity with your hands up and playing innocent bystander is just plain boldface and stupid...

If you see violence and trouble, for bluddy sake consider the protest as over and vacate the premises and go home for you own safety.

If not, then stay right there and see what happens.


Second of all, protesting in a Pandemic is just so freaking irresponsible.

Saw a woman get a buss head from a rubber bullet while on her way home from the grocery. What a dumba$$. Why she ent stay her tail home and starve like everyone else. Also, what all dem reporters doing out there at a time like this? They definitely deserve all the rubber bullets and pepper sprat they get. Who do they think they are, videotaping innocent police officers pointing their guns at and shooting guilty protesters holding their hands up and defiantly shouting "Don't shoot".

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » June 15th, 2020, 6:23 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
pugboy wrote:plenty lorse eyes in last couple weeks too with them rubber bullet, real sad


Not sad at all bro.

People have to understand law and order.

If you are protesting peacefully, and your fellow protestors and NOT adhering to curfews and instructions and burning/looting....by you standing in the vicinity with your hands up and playing innocent bystander is just plain boldface and stupid...

If you see violence and trouble, for bluddy sake consider the protest as over and vacate the premises and go home for you own safety.

If not, then stay right there and see what happens.


Second of all, protesting in a Pandemic is just so freaking irresponsible.

Saw a woman get a buss head from a rubber bullet while on her way home from the grocery. What a dumba$$. Why she ent stay her tail home and starve like everyone else. Also, what all dem reporters doing out there at a time like this? They definitely deserve all the rubber bullets and pepper sprat they get. Who do they think they are, videotaping innocent police officers pointing their guns at and shooting guilty protesters holding their hands up and defiantly shouting "Don't shoot".


Hello Slartibartfast,

Appreciate the sarcasm, i respect it.

Its very unfortunate that the woman had to get caught in the line of fire. She did not deserve it and i hope she recovers well.

The unruly protestors put themselves in this position and i hold ALL of them accountable for injuries to themselves, others and most importantly the law enforcers.

Do we see any totally peaceful protests being fired upon? NO.

Look how many peaceful, calm and well structured protests we had for the past few days....did the police just open fire for no reason? NO.

Was anyone shoved or slapped around? NO....how come??

When Trump was going for his photoshoot...allyuh do know that the protestors were given multiple warnings before? Why didnt they move?

Look it gets nasty with the resistance, violence, rioting and looting. It gets nasty when the enforcers start giving instructions and there is retaliation.

Do we see the officers shoot tear gas and rubber bullets and THEN instruct and plea AFTER? NO.

The officers are walking towards you and telling you to move and you dont. What are they to do? And then some jackass will spit on them or throw missiles. Some jackass will start breaking a glass or set a fire. What are they to do?

So they fire a rubber bullet and it ricochet and hit a hands up protestor. Mind you, the hands up person was prob the same one that threw a stone or maybe they were genuinely innocent. But jeez if allyuh in a Carnival fete and someone start shooting the security allyuh will STILL continue wining and grining? NO. Any sensible person will cover for safety or leave the party. The point is....when things are getting out of hand...leave!

These officers are provoked and when they take action....people get hurt. Well duh. So what? Just let the officers stay there like some mooks and take the abuse? Law and order must be maintained.

These protestors cannot be putting their hands up in a violent environment...i mean who are they fooling and are they aware that they would be considered suspects or perpetrators? So bypass a hands up protester for them to stab you in the back after?

People want to be non-compliant and question excessive force.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Miktay » June 15th, 2020, 6:29 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
pugboy wrote:plenty lorse eyes in last couple weeks too with them rubber bullet, real sad


Not sad at all bro.

People have to understand law and order.

If you are protesting peacefully, and your fellow protestors and NOT adhering to curfews and instructions and burning/looting....by you standing in the vicinity with your hands up and playing innocent bystander is just plain boldface and stupid...

If you see violence and trouble, for bluddy sake consider the protest as over and vacate the premises and go home for you own safety.

If not, then stay right there and see what happens.


Second of all, protesting in a Pandemic is just so freaking irresponsible.

Saw a woman get a buss head from a rubber bullet while on her way home from the grocery. What a dumba$$. Why she ent stay her tail home and starve like everyone else. Also, what all dem reporters doing out there at a time like this? They definitely deserve all the rubber bullets and pepper sprat they get. Who do they think they are, videotaping innocent police officers pointing their guns at and shooting guilty protesters holding their hands up and defiantly shouting "Don't shoot".


Bro...We dealing with a rage mob. There’s no reasoning with the madness of crowds.

Local leaders aren’t doing what voters elected them to do.

Thiz situation just has to burn itself out. No pun intended.

Then...maybe...we can return to logic and good sense.

In the interim...the innocent employees of the burnt out Wendy’s will most likely lose their jobs on top of the months of COVID unemployment.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby zoom rader » June 15th, 2020, 6:32 pm

MaxPower wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
pugboy wrote:plenty lorse eyes in last couple weeks too with them rubber bullet, real sad


Not sad at all bro.

People have to understand law and order.

If you are protesting peacefully, and your fellow protestors and NOT adhering to curfews and instructions and burning/looting....by you standing in the vicinity with your hands up and playing innocent bystander is just plain boldface and stupid...

If you see violence and trouble, for bluddy sake consider the protest as over and vacate the premises and go home for you own safety.

If not, then stay right there and see what happens.


Second of all, protesting in a Pandemic is just so freaking irresponsible.

Saw a woman get a buss head from a rubber bullet while on her way home from the grocery. What a dumba$$. Why she ent stay her tail home and starve like everyone else. Also, what all dem reporters doing out there at a time like this? They definitely deserve all the rubber bullets and pepper sprat they get. Who do they think they are, videotaping innocent police officers pointing their guns at and shooting guilty protesters holding their hands up and defiantly shouting "Don't shoot".


Hello Slartibartfast,

Appreciate the sarcasm, i respect it.

Its very unfortunate that the woman had to get caught in the line of fire. She did not deserve it and i hope she recovers well.

The unruly protestors put themselves in this position and i hold ALL of them accountable for injuries to themselves, others and most importantly the law enforcers.

Do we see any totally peaceful protests being fired upon? NO.

Look how many peaceful, calm and well structured protests we had for the past few days....did the police just open fire for no reason? NO.

Was anyone shoved or slapped around? NO....how come??

When Trump was going for his photoshoot...allyuh do know that the protestors were given multiple warnings before? Why didnt they move?

Look it gets nasty with the resistance, violence, rioting and looting. It gets nasty when the enforcers start giving instructions and there is retaliation.

Do we see the officers shoot tear gas and rubber bullets and THEN instruct and plea AFTER? NO.

The officers are walking towards you and telling you to move and you dont. What are they to do? And then some jackass will spit on them or throw missiles. Some jackass will start breaking a glass or set a fire. What are they to do?

So they fire a rubber bullet and it ricochet and hit a hands up protestor. Mind you, the hands up person was prob the same one that threw a stone or maybe they were genuinely innocent. But jeez if allyuh in a Carnival fete and someone start shooting the security allyuh will STILL continue wining and grining? NO. Any sensible person will cover for safety or leave the party. The point is....when things are getting out of hand...leave!

These officers are provoked and when they take action....people get hurt. Well duh. So what? Just let the officers stay there like some mooks and take the abuse? Law and order must be maintained.

These protestors cannot be putting their hands up in a violent environment...i mean who are they fooling and are they aware that they would be considered suspects or perpetrators? So bypass a hands up protester for them to stab you in the back after?

People want to be non-compliant and question excessive force.
Max

What would you say about the French protesting every Monday morning ?

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby 88sins » June 15th, 2020, 6:44 pm

Miktay, that understandable, and is the expected course. But the thing is that whole thing is now chicken or egg scenario.
Ppl have a problem with police, so they protest. Some get destructive, so they send in police and they rile the protesters up with acts of violence, so protesters keep protesting. That's why I say they need to quit sending police and utilize the national guard to stop and discourage destructive behavior.

From what I'm seeing, the military is going to get involved sooner or later, and I suspect there may be an attempt at disarmament of the population and at least some talk about the suspension of the rights protected by the second amendment when that happens. That would be problematic at best.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » June 15th, 2020, 6:55 pm

zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
pugboy wrote:plenty lorse eyes in last couple weeks too with them rubber bullet, real sad


Not sad at all bro.

People have to understand law and order.

If you are protesting peacefully, and your fellow protestors and NOT adhering to curfews and instructions and burning/looting....by you standing in the vicinity with your hands up and playing innocent bystander is just plain boldface and stupid...

If you see violence and trouble, for bluddy sake consider the protest as over and vacate the premises and go home for you own safety.

If not, then stay right there and see what happens.


Second of all, protesting in a Pandemic is just so freaking irresponsible.

Saw a woman get a buss head from a rubber bullet while on her way home from the grocery. What a dumba$$. Why she ent stay her tail home and starve like everyone else. Also, what all dem reporters doing out there at a time like this? They definitely deserve all the rubber bullets and pepper sprat they get. Who do they think they are, videotaping innocent police officers pointing their guns at and shooting guilty protesters holding their hands up and defiantly shouting "Don't shoot".


Hello Slartibartfast,

Appreciate the sarcasm, i respect it.

Its very unfortunate that the woman had to get caught in the line of fire. She did not deserve it and i hope she recovers well.

The unruly protestors put themselves in this position and i hold ALL of them accountable for injuries to themselves, others and most importantly the law enforcers.

Do we see any totally peaceful protests being fired upon? NO.

Look how many peaceful, calm and well structured protests we had for the past few days....did the police just open fire for no reason? NO.

Was anyone shoved or slapped around? NO....how come??

When Trump was going for his photoshoot...allyuh do know that the protestors were given multiple warnings before? Why didnt they move?

Look it gets nasty with the resistance, violence, rioting and looting. It gets nasty when the enforcers start giving instructions and there is retaliation.

Do we see the officers shoot tear gas and rubber bullets and THEN instruct and plea AFTER? NO.

The officers are walking towards you and telling you to move and you dont. What are they to do? And then some jackass will spit on them or throw missiles. Some jackass will start breaking a glass or set a fire. What are they to do?

So they fire a rubber bullet and it ricochet and hit a hands up protestor. Mind you, the hands up person was prob the same one that threw a stone or maybe they were genuinely innocent. But jeez if allyuh in a Carnival fete and someone start shooting the security allyuh will STILL continue wining and grining? NO. Any sensible person will cover for safety or leave the party. The point is....when things are getting out of hand...leave!

These officers are provoked and when they take action....people get hurt. Well duh. So what? Just let the officers stay there like some mooks and take the abuse? Law and order must be maintained.

These protestors cannot be putting their hands up in a violent environment...i mean who are they fooling and are they aware that they would be considered suspects or perpetrators? So bypass a hands up protester for them to stab you in the back after?

People want to be non-compliant and question excessive force.
Max

What would you say about the French protesting every Monday morning ?


Boi i wont lie to you, didnt get to follow it.

Send me the link so i can have a look and attempt to answer your question....i would google it but send it for anyone who may also be interested.

What are your thoughts on it?

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby sMASH » June 15th, 2020, 6:57 pm

police have a problem with protecting and service. does hire a set ah wannabe thuggies and use the badge to get off on their power trips.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby 88sins » June 15th, 2020, 7:09 pm

An old video, but let's see who can spot one of the issues with policing in that country


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Postby zoom rader » June 15th, 2020, 7:14 pm

sMASH wrote:police have a problem with protecting and service. does hire a set ah wannabe thuggies and use the badge to get off on their power trips.
Well part true.

The US police are following orders to target lantios and black folk for results.

They normally have quotas to maintain and promotion is based on results from tickets and arrest.

Fix the heads of police first then see about the mental cops after.

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Postby matr1x » June 15th, 2020, 7:17 pm

Most of the blacks shot turn out to be criminals or long rap sheets

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby zoom rader » June 15th, 2020, 7:19 pm

88sins wrote:An old video, but let's see who can spot one of the issues with policing in that country

It's s bro thing or in TT batchy ting. Give bligh

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby zoom rader » June 15th, 2020, 7:25 pm

Anyway folk

It's time to move away from US problems.

We have bigger problems to deal with in banana republic of Trinidad and PNM abuse of our funds.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby 88sins » June 15th, 2020, 7:27 pm

A sitting judge or magistrate would not be considered a bro, or batch either.

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Postby zoom rader » June 15th, 2020, 7:30 pm

88sins wrote:A sitting judge or magistrate would not be considered a bro, or batch either.
They all work together, the US legal system is all fixed.

Judges will quicker side with the prosecutors .

It's a bussiness.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » June 15th, 2020, 7:45 pm

88sins wrote:An old video, but let's see who can spot one of the issues with policing in that country



Reek,

Its 17mins long.

Im actually on the road atm, will look at it and get back to you when i reach home.

Seems interesting.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby sMASH » June 15th, 2020, 8:25 pm

zoom rader wrote:Anyway folk

It's time to move away from US problems.

We have bigger problems to deal with in banana republic of Trinidad and PNM abuse of our funds.


coming to a ttps near u. gg sending them 3cxc to get that exact training in farin... giving them shiny badge and urban camo, and supercop toys. when them on the road, them will be like road warriors.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby 88sins » June 15th, 2020, 8:37 pm

zoom rader wrote:
88sins wrote:A sitting judge or magistrate would not be considered a bro, or batch either.
They all work together, the US legal system is all fixed.

Judges will quicker side with the prosecutors .

It's a bussiness.

Rigged would be a better description.
But my point is that type of inhouse ride or die mentality, the we always right syndrome, the we are the law and we bigger than the law philosophy, is rampant throughout policing not only in America but globally. It's been said that some police units or departments are nothing more than government approved and paid gangs with badges.
Watching that video, it kinda hard to dispute that.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby zoom rader » June 15th, 2020, 8:45 pm

sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Anyway folk

It's time to move away from US problems.

We have bigger problems to deal with in banana republic of Trinidad and PNM abuse of our funds.


coming to a ttps near u. gg sending them 3cxc to get that exact training in farin... giving them shiny badge and urban camo, and supercop toys. when them on the road, them will be like road warriors.
Well i hope they deal with the PNM ppl gangs.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Les Bain » June 15th, 2020, 9:01 pm

Can't help getting upset when people dismissively start that noise about protestor action causing police action at protests.

The cause of the US protests was George Floyd's murder but they have been driven since by racial tensions and police brutality. The majority police response has consistently been brutality.

Peaceful protesters, news media and essential workers alike have been on the receiving end of brutal police tactics, the most notorious being the photo op involving an upside down, backward bible. There was one of many instances captured on video of police responding to looter calls then proceding to arrest the business owners who happened to be not white. Police of course have offered reasoning for this behaviour, but have also used effortless restraint at gatherings involving alt righters, white supremacists and nazis.

Now, I have seen surreal scenes of black protestors stereotyping it up in the background as reporters conduct live broadcasts, so I am also not in the blanket 'all protesters good' category.

Come on though: educate yourself some more. Your perceived outer difference won't prevent you from catching a truncheon or rubber bullet if you were on the periphery of a protest in transit, going about your lawful business. Not even bootlicking house negroes like Candace Owens immune to that.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby zoom rader » June 15th, 2020, 9:06 pm

Time to end this chead and focus on the abuse from PNM

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby adnj » June 16th, 2020, 7:11 am

Protester In Albuquerque Wounded During Shooting At Rally Over Removal Of Statue

June 16, 20204:43 AM ET

This bronze statue of Spanish conquistador Don Juan de Oñate stands outside the Albuquerque Museum and was the subject of Monday's protest.

Susan Montoya Bryan/AP

One person was shot and seriously wounded in Albuquerque, N.M., as protesters sought to topple a statue of Spanish conquistador Juan de Oñate.

The protest, held near the city's Tiguex Park, called for the removal of the statue that stands outside the Albuquerque Museum.

Neither the shooter nor the victim — said by police to be in critical but stable condition and undergoing treatment at a local hospital – was immediately identified. However, some protesters blamed the far-right New Mexico Civil Guard, whose members were carrying firearms as they tried to protect the statue, for the shooting.

"We are receiving reports about vigilante groups possibly instigating this violence," Police Chief Michael Geier was quoted in a department tweet as saying. "If this is true will be holding them accountable to the fullest extent of the law, including federal hate group designation and prosecution."

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updat ... -of-statueImage

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby pugboy » June 16th, 2020, 7:22 am

the statue removal protests is not a cut and dry topic

whilst a statue of hitler would never be condoned

some persons in history cannot be erased just like that and erasing them does not make things better for the persons in the present who are suffering from current events and systemic issues.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Redman » June 16th, 2020, 7:29 am

It’s an important lesson to learn that people can be good and bad.
I don’t agree with tearing statues down...it’s akin to Hitler burning books.
Erasing history that’s inconvenient.

Why not modify what is taught about Columbus.
Why not reflect the reality that Conflict,contradictions and hypocrisy are present in all of us.
Why not show that a man is equally capable of greatness and evil.?

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby pugboy » June 16th, 2020, 7:42 am

unfortunately many persons have no interest in history and learning from it and more importantly how to adjust and move on

Redman wrote:It’s an important lesson to learn that people can be good and bad.
I don’t agree with tearing statues down...it’s akin to Hitler burning books.
Erasing history that’s inconvenient.

Why not modify what is taught about Columbus.
Why not reflect the reality that Conflict,contradictions and hypocrisy are present in all of us.
Why not show that a man is equally capable of greatness and evil.?

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