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So who won the pandemic debate?

Poll ended at August 3rd, 2023, 3:48 pm

Antivaxxers - Ah still alive! babylon cyah kill me!
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43%
Covidians - Small pin does chook hard but it save the world.
6
43%
Me eh care - Allyuh keep arguing nah man, ah wining on dis bumper right here.
2
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Total votes: 14

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Postby ruffneck_12 » July 13th, 2023, 8:27 am

sMASH wrote:Btw, if ur not boosting ur sn anti vaxer



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Postby aaron17 » July 13th, 2023, 9:33 am

ruffneck_12 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Btw, if ur not boosting ur sn anti vaxer



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Is trust in the science falls under this scenario?
' A man /lady gets adverse reaction..paralysis etc and still tells everyone in the public to take the shot'

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Postby drchaos » July 13th, 2023, 2:09 pm

The kicks is that places starting to request masks again because of the monkey pox cases ...

They seemed to have forgotten that the reason for the cases is due to pride month celebration. Same thing happened last year worldwide.

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Postby redmanjp » July 13th, 2023, 5:08 pm

drchaos wrote:The kicks is that places starting to request masks again because of the monkey pox cases ...

They seemed to have forgotten that the reason for the cases is due to pride month celebration. Same thing happened last year worldwide.


which places? i know mask still required in healthcare institutions but under covid regulations

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Postby paid_influencer » July 13th, 2023, 5:28 pm

plenty people coughing and having sore throat tho. I think some people realise that being sick is not fun and when we used to wear masks, sanitize, social distance, etc, we wasn't getting sick so often

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Postby sMASH » July 13th, 2023, 5:38 pm

I not ss sick these few years.
Most consistent condition is i dont consume as much sugar and lot more active in the garden.

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Postby sMASH » July 17th, 2023, 8:35 pm

If ur not boosting, ur anti vax... And anti science.

U neeed to update ur subscription with this new rounds of bivalent

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Postby sMASH » July 19th, 2023, 2:04 am

Lets celebrate the latest boosters
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Postby adnj » July 19th, 2023, 7:05 am

Yale scientists have found that the rare cases of myocarditis seen in young males post-COVID-19 vaccination are linked to a generalized immune response, not antibodies created by the vaccine. This discovery rules out some theorized causes and suggests ways to reduce this side effect while emphasizing that the risk of myocarditis is significantly greater in unvaccinated individuals who contract the virus.

Cytokinopathy with aberrant cytotoxic lymphocytes and profibrotic myeloid response in SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine–associated myocarditis

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.adh3455

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Postby sMASH » July 19th, 2023, 8:02 am

The immune response is triggered by the excessive spike protein.
Try again, lock scientists

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Postby sMASH » July 19th, 2023, 8:31 am

If u believe the vaccine works, but haven't taken ur booster u may have fallen victim to misinformation, and developed vaccine hesitancy

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Postby sMASH » July 24th, 2023, 10:10 am

https://youtu.be/jB0Tp1oM_t0


Soooo, excess desths due to heart failure, higher now than during the pandemic.
Respiratory deaths fluctuating...


Across different countries, but usually first world.

Pattern does not

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Postby adnj » July 24th, 2023, 11:52 am

sMASH wrote:https://youtu.be/jB0Tp1oM_t0


Soooo, excess desths due to heart failure, higher now than during the pandemic.
Respiratory deaths fluctuating...


Across different countries, but usually first world.

Pattern does not

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Postby ruffneck_12 » July 26th, 2023, 11:02 am

aye allyuh dis covid ting getting outta handddddd

we hadda lock down d country againnnnn

People deadding like fly on d roaddddd stillllll


Story time, was driving past city gate today and while people were crossing I just see 5 people just drop down jusso. Yesterday it was just 3 people drop down so the rates of dropdong are increasing!!! omg!!1!!one!!!!

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Postby sMASH » July 26th, 2023, 6:07 pm

1 in 35 vax recipients got some degree of injury.


The cookie is crumbling

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Postby ed360123 » July 26th, 2023, 11:53 pm

sMASH wrote:1 in 35 vax recipients got some degree of injury.


The cookie is crumbling
*sigh*
Source?

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Postby redmanjp » July 27th, 2023, 1:53 am

John Campbell vid I think

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Postby redmanjp » August 4th, 2023, 8:10 pm

Illegal biolab found in California

https://www.insider.com/illegal-lab-found-full-of-bioengineered-mice-and-infectious-diseases-2023-7

Illegal medical lab containing bioengineered mice and infectious agents including HIV and herpes discovered in California

An illegal medical lab was discovered by investigators in a warehouse in Fresno, California.
The lab was full of bioengineered mice and samples of diseases like COVID-19, HIV, and herpes.
Roughly 1,000 mice were found, with nearly 200 already dead. The rest were euthanized.



An illegal lab in California containing nearly 1,000 bioengineered mice has officials concerned after improperly stored tissue samples were tested and discovered to contain infectious diseases including HIV and Hepatitis.

"This is an unusual situation. I've been in government for 25 years. I've never seen anything like this," Reedley City Manager Nicole Zieba said, per local news outlet KRON4.

The makeshift lab contained roughly 30 refrigerators and freezers — some of which were non-operational — as well as incubators, medical testing supplies, and hundreds of mice. Several disease samples tested from the lab included infectious agents like herpes, coronavirus, E. Coli, and malaria, SFist reported.

Wang Zhaolin, a representative of the company operating the lab, Prestige Biotech, told investigators that the mice inside the warehouse had been genetically engineered to catch and spread the COVID-19 virus, according to The San Joaquin Valley Sun.

The warehouse came under investigation in March after a local code enforcement officer discovered a garden hose attached to a back wall of the building. As officials searched, medical devices that appeared to have been created on-site, such as COVID-19 and pregnancy tests, were also discovered, NBC News reported.

"Certain rooms of the warehouse were found to contain several vessels of liquid and various apparatus," NBC reported court documents related to the incident said. "Fresno County Public Health staff also observed blood, tissue and other bodily fluid samples and serums; and thousands of vials of unlabeled fluids and suspected biological material."

Nearly 800 of the mice found inside the warehouse were euthanized by officials, per NBC. An additional approximately 175 mice were already dead when they were discovered.

"There was over 800 different chemicals on site in different bottles of different acids," KRON4 reported the assistant director of the Fresno County Department of Public Health, Joe Prado, said. "Unfortunately, a lot of these are being categorized under unknown chemicals."


All of the biohazard material within the lab has been destroyed as of July 7, NBC reported, though an investigation into the lab's origins and activity remains ongoing.

The CDC and Fresno County Department of Public Health did not immediately respond to Insider's requests for comment.

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Postby drchaos » August 8th, 2023, 11:05 pm

redmanjp wrote:Illegal biolab found in California

https://www.insider.com/illegal-lab-found-full-of-bioengineered-mice-and-infectious-diseases-2023-7

Illegal medical lab containing bioengineered mice and infectious agents including HIV and herpes discovered in California

An illegal medical lab was discovered by investigators in a warehouse in Fresno, California.
The lab was full of bioengineered mice and samples of diseases like COVID-19, HIV, and herpes.
Roughly 1,000 mice were found, with nearly 200 already dead. The rest were euthanized.



An illegal lab in California containing nearly 1,000 bioengineered mice has officials concerned after improperly stored tissue samples were tested and discovered to contain infectious diseases including HIV and Hepatitis.

"This is an unusual situation. I've been in government for 25 years. I've never seen anything like this," Reedley City Manager Nicole Zieba said, per local news outlet KRON4.

The makeshift lab contained roughly 30 refrigerators and freezers — some of which were non-operational — as well as incubators, medical testing supplies, and hundreds of mice. Several disease samples tested from the lab included infectious agents like herpes, coronavirus, E. Coli, and malaria, SFist reported.

Wang Zhaolin, a representative of the company operating the lab, Prestige Biotech, told investigators that the mice inside the warehouse had been genetically engineered to catch and spread the COVID-19 virus, according to The San Joaquin Valley Sun.

The warehouse came under investigation in March after a local code enforcement officer discovered a garden hose attached to a back wall of the building. As officials searched, medical devices that appeared to have been created on-site, such as COVID-19 and pregnancy tests, were also discovered, NBC News reported.

"Certain rooms of the warehouse were found to contain several vessels of liquid and various apparatus," NBC reported court documents related to the incident said. "Fresno County Public Health staff also observed blood, tissue and other bodily fluid samples and serums; and thousands of vials of unlabeled fluids and suspected biological material."

Nearly 800 of the mice found inside the warehouse were euthanized by officials, per NBC. An additional approximately 175 mice were already dead when they were discovered.

"There was over 800 different chemicals on site in different bottles of different acids," KRON4 reported the assistant director of the Fresno County Department of Public Health, Joe Prado, said. "Unfortunately, a lot of these are being categorized under unknown chemicals."


All of the biohazard material within the lab has been destroyed as of July 7, NBC reported, though an investigation into the lab's origins and activity remains ongoing.

The CDC and Fresno County Department of Public Health did not immediately respond to Insider's requests for comment.



Stop Believeing fake news!!!

It was really a "WET Market" in california ... Nothing to see here :lol:

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Postby ruffneck_12 » August 9th, 2023, 8:28 am

ey allyuh I fed up of dis covid ting inno :cry:

Yesterday I walking through pricemart maloney and this old tanty wearing a mask kept coming within 5ft 9inches of me and I had to give her an extra mask (double masking is the only way) and I told her (firmly) to step back the full 6ft

I not taking NO chances this rounds, sorry not sorry.

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Postby sMASH » August 9th, 2023, 11:05 am

Disease X!

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https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-referred-justice-department-criminal-195351417.html


Fauci referred to Justice Department for criminal investigation for allegedly lying under oath to Congress

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has referred Dr. Anthony Fauci to the Justice Department for investigation into possible criminal prosecution for allegedly lying under oath to Congress about his knowledge of gain-of-function research conducted at China's Wuhan virus lab.

In a letter to District of Colombia U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves, the Kentucky Republican requested that the DOJ investigate whether the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which is a part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), broke the law with false statements made in congressional testimony under a statute punishable by time in federal prison.

"Before Congress, Dr. Fauci denied funding gain-of-function research, to the press he claims to have a dispassionate view on the lab leak hypothesis, and in private he acknowledges gain-of-function research at WIV (Wuhan Institute of Virology) to his colleagues," Paul wrote.

"A congressional hearing, however, is not the place for a public servant to play political games — especially when the health and well-being of American citizens is on the line. For this reason, I request that you investigate whether Dr. Fauci’s statements to Congress on May 11, 2021, violated 18 U.S.C. § 1001 or any other statute," Paul added.

Fauci testified before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions on May 11, 2021, saying that "the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology."


In a subsequent hearing, Paul "warned Dr. Fauci of the criminal implications of lying to Congress and offered him an opportunity to recant his previous statements," the senator noted in the letter.

"In response, Dr. Fauci stated that he had ‘never lied before the Congress’ and ‘d[id] not retract that statement,'" Paul wrote.

The Kentucky senator said Fauci’s testimony is inconsistent with emails that have since come to light that show Fauci knew of gain-of-function research in early 2020.

On Feb. 1, 2020, Fauci sent an email, which the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic recently released, "acknowledging concerns that COVID-19 may have been genetically engineered because gain-of-function research was taking place in Wuhan before the pandemic."


In the email — written weeks before a federal COVID emergency was first declared — Fauci wrote that "scientists in Wuhan University are known to have been working on gain-of-function experiments to determine that molecular mechanisms associated with bat viruses adapting to human infection, and the outbreak originated in Wuhan."

Further, gain-of-function research in Wuhan was funded by the agency that Fauci led, Paul noted.

Paul's letter highlights a paper titled "Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus," which described in-depth the research carried out at the WIV and funded in part through NIAID.

The paper's author, Dr. Shi Zhengli, details the research in which the spike genes from two uncharacterized bat SARS-related coronavirus strains were combined with the genomic backbone of another SARS-related coronavirus to create novel chimeric SARS-related viruses that showed cytopathic effects in primate epithelial cells and replication in human epithelial cells, according to Paul.

"These experiments combined genetic information from different SARS-related coronaviruses and combined them to create novel, artificial viruses able to infect human cells," Paul wrote.

The experiments, funded by NIH, meet the definition of gain-of-function research, the senator concluded.

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has referred Dr. Anthony Fauci to the Justice Department for investigation into possible criminal prosecution for allegedly lying under oath to Congress about his knowledge of gain-of-function research conducted at China's Wuhan virus lab.

In a letter to District of Colombia U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves, the Kentucky Republican requested that the DOJ investigate whether the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which is a part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), broke the law with false statements made in congressional testimony under a statute punishable by time in federal prison.

"Before Congress, Dr. Fauci denied funding gain-of-function research, to the press he claims to have a dispassionate view on the lab leak hypothesis, and in private he acknowledges gain-of-function research at WIV (Wuhan Institute of Virology) to his colleagues," Paul wrote.

"A congressional hearing, however, is not the place for a public servant to play political games — especially when the health and well-being of American citizens is on the line. For this reason, I request that you investigate whether Dr. Fauci’s statements to Congress on May 11, 2021, violated 18 U.S.C. § 1001 or any other statute," Paul added.


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Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has referred Dr. Anthony Fauci, above, to the Justice Department for criminal investigation.
Fauci testified before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions on May 11, 2021, saying that "the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

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In a subsequent hearing, Paul "warned Dr. Fauci of the criminal implications of lying to Congress and offered him an opportunity to recant his previous statements," the senator noted in the letter.

"In response, Dr. Fauci stated that he had ‘never lied before the Congress’ and ‘d[id] not retract that statement,'" Paul wrote.

The Kentucky senator said Fauci’s testimony is inconsistent with emails that have since come to light that show Fauci knew of gain-of-function research in early 2020.

On Feb. 1, 2020, Fauci sent an email, which the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic recently released, "acknowledging concerns that COVID-19 may have been genetically engineered because gain-of-function research was taking place in Wuhan before the pandemic."

EX-CDC DIRECTOR SAYS UNREDACTED FAUCI GAIN-OF-FUNCTION EMAIL REVEALS 'AGGRESSIVE ATTEMPT' TO CHANGE NARRATIVE

In the email — written weeks before a federal COVID emergency was first declared — Fauci wrote that "scientists in Wuhan University are known to have been working on gain-of-function experiments to determine that molecular mechanisms associated with bat viruses adapting to human infection, and the outbreak originated in Wuhan."

Further, gain-of-function research in Wuhan was funded by the agency that Fauci led, Paul noted.


Paul's letter highlights a paper titled "Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus," which described in-depth the research carried out at the WIV and funded in part through NIAID.

The paper's author, Dr. Shi Zhengli, details the research in which the spike genes from two uncharacterized bat SARS-related coronavirus strains were combined with the genomic backbone of another SARS-related coronavirus to create novel chimeric SARS-related viruses that showed cytopathic effects in primate epithelial cells and replication in human epithelial cells, according to Paul.

"These experiments combined genetic information from different SARS-related coronaviruses and combined them to create novel, artificial viruses able to infect human cells," Paul wrote.

The experiments, funded by NIH, meet the definition of gain-of-function research, the senator concluded.


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Dr. Anthony Fauci responds to questions at a Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee hearing on Capitol Hill.
In his letter, Paul also references a report published on June 14, 2023, that the Government Accountability Office (GAO) concluded the WIV and Wuhan University received NIH funding.

The report noted that the NIH funded a WIV project titled "Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence," which included "genetic experiments to combine naturally occurring bat coronaviruses with SARS and MERS viruses, resulting in hybridized coronavirus strains."

Additionally, the GAO determined that the NIH funded Wuhan University’s collaboration with the WIV on viral detection in the Yunnan province.

Paul stated that Fauci's omissions could fall under a criminal statute that says whoever "makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation" as part of "any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate" is subject to criminal fines and imprisonment of up to five years.

Neither the NIH nor Fauci responded to a request for comment from Fox News Digital by time of publication.

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Postby adnj » August 10th, 2023, 7:45 pm

^^ The emails that are quoted in the DOJ referral were MADE PUBLIC more than two years ago.

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Postby sMASH » August 10th, 2023, 8:43 pm

I wonder when was the last time faucci was boosted....

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Postby The_Honourable » August 10th, 2023, 9:57 pm

redmanjp wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-referred-justice-department-criminal-195351417.html


Fauci referred to Justice Department for criminal investigation for allegedly lying under oath to Congress

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has referred Dr. Anthony Fauci to the Justice Department for investigation into possible criminal prosecution for allegedly lying under oath to Congress about his knowledge of gain-of-function research conducted at China's Wuhan virus lab.

In a letter to District of Colombia U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves, the Kentucky Republican requested that the DOJ investigate whether the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which is a part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), broke the law with false statements made in congressional testimony under a statute punishable by time in federal prison.

"Before Congress, Dr. Fauci denied funding gain-of-function research, to the press he claims to have a dispassionate view on the lab leak hypothesis, and in private he acknowledges gain-of-function research at WIV (Wuhan Institute of Virology) to his colleagues," Paul wrote.

"A congressional hearing, however, is not the place for a public servant to play political games — especially when the health and well-being of American citizens is on the line. For this reason, I request that you investigate whether Dr. Fauci’s statements to Congress on May 11, 2021, violated 18 U.S.C. § 1001 or any other statute," Paul added.

Fauci testified before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions on May 11, 2021, saying that "the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology."


In a subsequent hearing, Paul "warned Dr. Fauci of the criminal implications of lying to Congress and offered him an opportunity to recant his previous statements," the senator noted in the letter.

"In response, Dr. Fauci stated that he had ‘never lied before the Congress’ and ‘d[id] not retract that statement,'" Paul wrote.

The Kentucky senator said Fauci’s testimony is inconsistent with emails that have since come to light that show Fauci knew of gain-of-function research in early 2020.

On Feb. 1, 2020, Fauci sent an email, which the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic recently released, "acknowledging concerns that COVID-19 may have been genetically engineered because gain-of-function research was taking place in Wuhan before the pandemic."


In the email — written weeks before a federal COVID emergency was first declared — Fauci wrote that "scientists in Wuhan University are known to have been working on gain-of-function experiments to determine that molecular mechanisms associated with bat viruses adapting to human infection, and the outbreak originated in Wuhan."

Further, gain-of-function research in Wuhan was funded by the agency that Fauci led, Paul noted.

Paul's letter highlights a paper titled "Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus," which described in-depth the research carried out at the WIV and funded in part through NIAID.

The paper's author, Dr. Shi Zhengli, details the research in which the spike genes from two uncharacterized bat SARS-related coronavirus strains were combined with the genomic backbone of another SARS-related coronavirus to create novel chimeric SARS-related viruses that showed cytopathic effects in primate epithelial cells and replication in human epithelial cells, according to Paul.

"These experiments combined genetic information from different SARS-related coronaviruses and combined them to create novel, artificial viruses able to infect human cells," Paul wrote.

The experiments, funded by NIH, meet the definition of gain-of-function research, the senator concluded.

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has referred Dr. Anthony Fauci to the Justice Department for investigation into possible criminal prosecution for allegedly lying under oath to Congress about his knowledge of gain-of-function research conducted at China's Wuhan virus lab.

In a letter to District of Colombia U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves, the Kentucky Republican requested that the DOJ investigate whether the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which is a part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), broke the law with false statements made in congressional testimony under a statute punishable by time in federal prison.

"Before Congress, Dr. Fauci denied funding gain-of-function research, to the press he claims to have a dispassionate view on the lab leak hypothesis, and in private he acknowledges gain-of-function research at WIV (Wuhan Institute of Virology) to his colleagues," Paul wrote.

"A congressional hearing, however, is not the place for a public servant to play political games — especially when the health and well-being of American citizens is on the line. For this reason, I request that you investigate whether Dr. Fauci’s statements to Congress on May 11, 2021, violated 18 U.S.C. § 1001 or any other statute," Paul added.


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Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has referred Dr. Anthony Fauci, above, to the Justice Department for criminal investigation.
Fauci testified before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions on May 11, 2021, saying that "the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

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In a subsequent hearing, Paul "warned Dr. Fauci of the criminal implications of lying to Congress and offered him an opportunity to recant his previous statements," the senator noted in the letter.

"In response, Dr. Fauci stated that he had ‘never lied before the Congress’ and ‘d[id] not retract that statement,'" Paul wrote.

The Kentucky senator said Fauci’s testimony is inconsistent with emails that have since come to light that show Fauci knew of gain-of-function research in early 2020.

On Feb. 1, 2020, Fauci sent an email, which the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic recently released, "acknowledging concerns that COVID-19 may have been genetically engineered because gain-of-function research was taking place in Wuhan before the pandemic."

EX-CDC DIRECTOR SAYS UNREDACTED FAUCI GAIN-OF-FUNCTION EMAIL REVEALS 'AGGRESSIVE ATTEMPT' TO CHANGE NARRATIVE

In the email — written weeks before a federal COVID emergency was first declared — Fauci wrote that "scientists in Wuhan University are known to have been working on gain-of-function experiments to determine that molecular mechanisms associated with bat viruses adapting to human infection, and the outbreak originated in Wuhan."

Further, gain-of-function research in Wuhan was funded by the agency that Fauci led, Paul noted.


Paul's letter highlights a paper titled "Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus," which described in-depth the research carried out at the WIV and funded in part through NIAID.

The paper's author, Dr. Shi Zhengli, details the research in which the spike genes from two uncharacterized bat SARS-related coronavirus strains were combined with the genomic backbone of another SARS-related coronavirus to create novel chimeric SARS-related viruses that showed cytopathic effects in primate epithelial cells and replication in human epithelial cells, according to Paul.

"These experiments combined genetic information from different SARS-related coronaviruses and combined them to create novel, artificial viruses able to infect human cells," Paul wrote.

The experiments, funded by NIH, meet the definition of gain-of-function research, the senator concluded.


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Dr. Anthony Fauci responds to questions at a Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee hearing on Capitol Hill.
In his letter, Paul also references a report published on June 14, 2023, that the Government Accountability Office (GAO) concluded the WIV and Wuhan University received NIH funding.

The report noted that the NIH funded a WIV project titled "Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence," which included "genetic experiments to combine naturally occurring bat coronaviruses with SARS and MERS viruses, resulting in hybridized coronavirus strains."

Additionally, the GAO determined that the NIH funded Wuhan University’s collaboration with the WIV on viral detection in the Yunnan province.

Paul stated that Fauci's omissions could fall under a criminal statute that says whoever "makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation" as part of "any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate" is subject to criminal fines and imprisonment of up to five years.

Neither the NIH nor Fauci responded to a request for comment from Fox News Digital by time of publication.


So the question is, did Fauci in 2021 lie under oath or not? Federal prosecutor to decide or entertain the case at all.

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Soo is excess deaths real or fake?

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aaron17 wrote:Soo is excess deaths real or fake?


it's probably real - the debate is what's causing it

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People died
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sMASH wrote:People died IMG_20230811_210112.jpg


In this particular trial, the issue is whether the FDA has given a command to cease use of ivermectin for COVID treatment. The FDA says, "No."

The state licensing boards, however, have decided that doctors that prescribe ivermectin for COVID treatment at elevated levels were guilty of medical malpractice. Some of those physicians subsequently lost their license to practice medicine

Since you posted the part of the story that makes sense to you, read on:

Feds admit in court: Doctors have the right to prescribe Ivermectin for Covid

August 11, 2023

A legal battle between the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and three doctors who accuse the agency of impeding their right to prescribe ivermectin as a Covid-19 treatment was in court this week.

According to Epoch Times, at the Aug. 8 hearing, the federal government’s lawyers made an important admission: Doctors have the right to treat Covid with Ivermectin.

Ashley Cheung Honold, a lawyer representing the FDA, stated on the record that the agency recognizes doctors’ authority to prescribe ivermectin to treat Covid.

Three medical doctors — Drs. Paul Marik, Mary Bowden, and Robert Apter — contend that the FDA repeatedly cautioned and even ordered doctors in 2021 to not prescribe Ivermectin for Covid. The doctors initially filed the case in 2022, but a federal judge dismissed it, which has led to the appeal in the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.

Many doctors across the country have lost their licenses or been dismissed from their practices for prescribing Ivermectin. Dr. Meryl J. Nass had her license suspended by a licensing board in Maine after she prescribed Ivermectin via telemedicine. A Florida doctor was fired from a Florida hospital board meeting for testifying that Ivermectin was effective against Covid. Across the country, doctors are now in fear of the government.

“The fundamental issue in this case is straightforward. After the FDA approves the human drug for sale, does it then have the authority to interfere with how that drug is used within the doctor-patient relationship? The answer is no,” argued Jared Kelson, the attorney representing the doctors, according to the report by Epoch Times.

The crux of the legal argument centers on whether the FDA’s statements constitute medical advice and whether they overstepped the agency’s authority in regulating approved drugs. The FDA’s Aug. 21, 2021 posted on X, “You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y’all. Stop it,” was admitted as evidence in the trial. The tweet contained a link to an FDA page advising against using ivermectin for Covid.

In another posting, the FDA wrote that Ivermectin “isn’t authorized or approved to treat COVID-19,” and “Q: Should I take ivermectin to prevent or treat COVID-19? A: No.”


The FDA’s lawyer stated to the judge that the FDA’s statements were responses to incidents of consumers being hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for animals. However, the doctors’ lawyer argued that the FDA’s role is to provide information on adverse drug reactions, not medical advice.

Judge Jennifer Walker Elrod, part of the panel of judges hearing the appeal, questioned whether the FDA’s tweet “No, stop it” was a command.

Honold, on behalf of the FDA, described these statements as “merely quips” and explained that they did not prohibit doctors from prescribing ivermectin.

“Can you answer the question, please? Is that a command, ‘Stop it’?” Judge Elrod asked Honold.

“In some contexts, those words could be construed as a command,” Honold said, as reported by the Epoch Times. “But in this context, where FDA was simply using these words in the context of a quippy tweet meant to share its informational article, those statements do not rise to the level of a command.”

The official statement clearing the air on whether the FDA can direct doctors on the matter was then uttered:

“FDA is clearly acknowledging that doctors have the authority to prescribe human ivermectin to treat Covid. So they are not interfering with the authority of doctors to prescribe drugs or to practice medicine,” Honold said.

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