****the official CRICKET thread*****

[Trinispougla]

Simmons has a lot of natural talent as far as his hand eye coordination is concerned as evidenced by his shots, all it takes is some time in white clothes to get the discipline down but every man has to know where he stands. It's just unfortunate that other nations who are serious about their world cricket reputation invests and makes it possible to secure the best support and playing team possible to ensure success while WI lags behind and gone back to calypso cricket (talented players , disjointed performances and few coherent victories).

Test cricket is much more than hand eye coordination - its patience, durability, mental fortitude. The lack of those attributes made Carl Hooper an average test player instead of a good to great one given his range of shots and the ease with which he appeared to play them. You all have to admit Hooper in full flow made Lara look inferior.

Firstly, hooper was only slightly better than lara in full flow. Secondly, it aint a matter of patience. You dont score 282 without having patience. If you like daren ganga are picked once or twice and promptly dropped every time you fail, then you must become discouraged. Ganga would have done the same had the ipl been booming in his days. Every time he failed, he was dropped. His last test, he was run out by dotish samuels and they dropped him. The series before he was in form in pakistan, again dropped. he scored 3 half centuries in pakistan the tour before, chris gayle scored one. And every time he failed, he was dropped. Its only because ganga has been playing since 1998, a tour to sa where he was one of few to come out with his rep enhancd, that he has played so many tests. Is devon smith better than the person he replaced, ganga? Ganga was technically perfect, one of the ugliest batsmen ever but perfect none the less. The insularity in WI cricket is shameful. If lendl was jamaican, he would probably get 15 tests interrupted, if he was bajan, 20. Ravi rampaul IS the best fast bowler in the west indies, yet still he finds himself out of every WI team. Rayad emrit has consistently topped the super 50 wickets column for the past three tournaments, yet no call up. Amit jaggernauth and samuel badree were knocking on wi doors in their teenage years yet jaggernauth was picked for one test, badree only for t20s. Sarwan was humiliated by otis gibson, one year after scoring of five hundred runs in a series in the west indies vs england. I want the best WI team, because it is an institution, to be picked. in the 80s, there were 7 bajans, in the late 80s, 6 antiguans because it was accepted that these were the best players. Now for the past 10 years, trinis have undoubtedly comprised most of the players of international standard. with the exception of brathwaite k, taylor, roach, andr Russel, they have mostly been trinis. Evin lewis, katwaroo, jon russ jaggessar, phillip, pooran. Yet still there are six bajans on the wi team, clearly not ofinternational standard. Simmons not in tests because of the same reason pollard and co aren't there: Trinis cant rely on the wi to make a living and are fed up of being overlooked in favor in inferiors

[racedriverpro]

2nd Test Match - imo Blackwood, Chase should be dropped and replace with Joseph and Cummings. Holder bats at no. 5. and Carlos at 6.

[meccalli]

Test cricket is much more than hand eye coordination - its patience, durability, mental fortitude.

Simmons has a lot of natural talent as far as his hand eye coordination is concerned as evidenced by his shots, all it takes is some time in white clothes to get the discipline down

Hooper was a natural just as Sehwag was, didn't stop the gung ho attitude from being prosperous in white clothes. Developing discipline in knowing where your stumps are, having the presence of mind to evade bouncers and leave deliveries alone comes with the experience that most of the greats developed in county matches.
Imo attacking batsmen make the best test batsmen (Grenidge and Haynes et al) once that discipline is developed. Just look at David Warner for a modern example, people speak ill of guys like chanderpaul but in his younger days, he really went after bowlers and has one of the fastest test centuries as evidence of it. Windies has a real confidence problem, if it was a t20 match with that same lineup, I'm almost certain you would have seen much better figures from all the batsmen but they go into this test shell and lose their natural game.

[racedriverpro]

Simmons has a lot of natural talent as far as his hand eye coordination is concerned as evidenced by his shots, all it takes is some time in white clothes to get the discipline down but every man has to know where he stands. It's just unfortunate that other nations who are serious about their world cricket reputation invests and makes it possible to secure the best support and playing team possible to ensure success while WI lags behind and gone back to calypso cricket (talented players , disjointed performances and few coherent victories).

Test cricket is much more than hand eye coordination - its patience, durability, mental fortitude. The lack of those attributes made Carl Hooper an average test player instead of a good to great one given his range of shots and the ease with which he appeared to play them. You all have to admit Hooper in full flow made Lara look inferior.

Firstly, hooper was only slightly better than lara in full flow. Secondly, it aint a matter of patience. You dont score 282 without having patience. If you like daren ganga are picked once or twice and promptly dropped every time you fail, then you must become discouraged. Ganga would have done the same had the ipl been booming in his days. Every time he failed, he was dropped. His last test, he was run out by dotish samuels and they dropped him. The series before he was in form in pakistan, again dropped. he scored 3 half centuries in pakistan the tour before, chris gayle scored one. And every time he failed, he was dropped. Its only because ganga has been playing since 1998, a tour to sa where he was one of few to come out with his rep enhancd, that he has played so many tests. Is devon smith better than the person he replaced, ganga? Ganga was technically perfect, one of the ugliest batsmen ever but perfect none the less. The insularity in WI cricket is shameful. If lendl was jamaican, he would probably get 15 tests interrupted, if he was bajan, 20. Ravi rampaul IS the best fast bowler in the west indies, yet still he finds himself out of every WI team. Rayad emrit has consistently topped the super 50 wickets column for the past three tournaments, yet no call up. Amit jaggernauth and samuel badree were knocking on wi doors in their teenage years yet jaggernauth was picked for one test, badree only for t20s. Sarwan was humiliated by otis gibson, one year after scoring of five hundred runs in a series in the west indies vs england. I want the best WI team, because it is an institution, to be picked. in the 80s, there were 7 bajans, in the late 80s, 6 antiguans because it was accepted that these were the best players. Now for the past 10 years, trinis have undoubtedly comprised most of the players of international standard. with the exception of brathwaite k, taylor, roach, andr Russel, they have mostly been trinis. Evin lewis, katwaroo, jon russ jaggessar, phillip, pooran. Yet still there are six bajans on the wi team, clearly not ofinternational standard. Simmons not in tests because of the same reason pollard and co aren't there: Trinis cant rely on the wi to make a living and are fed up of being overlooked in favor in inferiors

true talk...wicb mc

[trent]

Nice come from behind victory for TKR!

[X_Factor]

yeah, really didnt expect that win!

[X_Factor]

its now a real dog fight for spots on that table..
those trinis on patriots team better help us yes cause they out for sure!
lol

[shake d livin wake d dead]

yeah, really didnt expect that win!

This

[Dizzy28]

That win was sorely needed. And the over to spare has helped the run rate as well.
Lauderhill will be interesting especially as I've heard the pitch may be Guyana like.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

isn't it an imported wicket like what they did with the masters league?

[racedriverpro]

Seeing an opposition that is oozing with confidence, of a win, slump to defeat is priceless. Good win. Cooper should be dropped tho.

[Dizzy28]

isn't it an imported wicket like what they did with the masters league?

By Masters League you referring to the series of matches played last year by the retired cricketers in baseball specific stadiums?

Lauderhill is a cricket specific stadium (albeit multiuse) so the pitches are turf as per say the QPO.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

isn't it an imported wicket like what they did with the masters league?

By Masters League you referring to the series of matches played last year by the retired cricketers in baseball specific stadiums?

Lauderhill is a cricket specific stadium (albeit multiuse) so the pitches are turf as per say the QPO.

yup that's the league I speak of...interesting to see how that pitch plays

[shake d livin wake d dead]

McCullum real disappoint in this CPL jed

[racedriverpro]

Doh worry. Sarwan to the rescue.

[De Dragon]

WI woes continue. All out for 196 at Sabina.

[racedriverpro]

rel disappointed that they didn't play Joseph. stupid move by wicb

[shake d livin wake d dead]

India go make about 5 something by tomorrow

[racedriverpro]

^^^Yuh seeing that. fast bowlers seem to be impotent.

[racedriverpro]

#letitrain

[racedriverpro]

Shannon's day to day...3-4 wickets and a damaged Indian batsman

[shake d livin wake d dead]

hahah you feel so^??

them men going n bun in the sun

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Would the rain save windies....lmao

[Dizzy28]

That Chandrika clearly not an international level batsman nah.

[hondamadness]

That Chandrika clearly not an international level batsman nah.

everybody except the WI selectors seeing that!!!

[trent]

That Chandrika clearly not an international level batsman nah.

everybody except the WI selectors seeing that!!!

I can't understand y he keeps getting selected with a first class average of 25

WI headed for another innings defeat...series should b called off...i can't bear to watch anymore.

[racedriverpro]

^^ thought was only me. one bowling attack works smart while the other works hard...

[shake d livin wake d dead]

From the looks if things windies can fold up tommorow (weather permitting)..this is probably the most humiliating series ever...

[racedriverpro]

yea we know... it all boils down to team selection, poor tactics and most of all negative attitude. That said...rain tomorrow please God.

[racedriverpro]

weather not on wi side today. want to see a fight back from wi.