The Religion Discussion

[Azzuri]

Religion is useless....it's just for weak minded people who need something to hold on to.

[maj. tom]

^^ lol lulz dumbass. mathematics is based on axioms and logic built up from the most basic concepts until you get complex calculations. which is why you started learning math at kindergarden all the way up to university, each level more advanced than the next. the same way a computer chip calculates everything with 1s and 0s despite the complexity of the input. You think scientists just make up things eh?

The math models work and fit hypotheses, but that does not mean they are the only explanation for a phenomenon. String theory, quantum theory, QED theory, all work mathematically, they're hypothesis of how the universe works but it's really not of any use if we cannot conduct experiments in the real world to observe it. As I pointed out in an earlier post, you cannot disprove a hypothesis, only find evidence that supports one. If you think God exists, that's fine. There has never been any evidence or interaction of him and the physical world to observe an effect of him and therefore, the hypothesis is null. If we find evidence of him in the future, science does not need to adjust itself, it will merely fit in with the logic of the Scientific Method, which most people here clearly do not understand.

You are really hyped on on attacking folks when you yourself do not understand what you are saying. And the way you write shows that things really are jumbled and disorganized in your head and it just tumbles out in non-sequitur babble. You read things and don't understand what you read and interpret it in a biased, non-scientific fashion that is contradictory of all the work such men like Hawkins did to get there.

[snypaz]

I would go out of respect and friendship. I have before. For me it's a support thing.

[AdamB]

If your meat is not permissible for them, they will not eat it. Some also hold the view that vege food "offered to other gods" (prayers done on the food) makes it impermissible for them to eat. All meat offered to "other gods" are impermissible for some religions.

You should know your neighbour better, and dont invite him if he wont eat your food OR know that he wont eat your food and be OK with that if he still comes. The fact that he came means that he respects you. So that should count for something. The ones who didnt come and didnt let you know upfront that they wont come are cowards or may feel uncomfortable to let you know their position.

GOD IS ONE YES ...but all gods are not one.

[Sky]

but all gods are not one.

Yes they are. I have evidence.

[Damien]

huh look adam talking bout meat wdmc so what bout the apple ?

always remember what praim say







































praim say boleh hanuman e key jai

[mitsu_chick941]

religion smeligion

[maj. tom]

even the nazis, who were one of the most scientific communities, invested into the investigation of religious and mythological stories. how much evidence did they have before?

This man just so ignorant and bigoted, I don't even know where to start. You really are lost man. You need to go on Wikipedia and read a bit about the nazis and their "scientific" experiments and propaganda. From Nostradamus to Josef Mengele. You are completely FUBAR, and it's no use continuing this with you.

As I said before, you can beat a dead donkey as much as you want, it ain't gonna bray.

[AdamB]

lol this adamB guy sound like a troll from one of those arab countries eh? look at his style of writing.

Maj tom,

To quote you from lower down on this thread:
You are really hyped on on attacking folks when you yourself do not understand what you are saying. And the way you write shows that things really are jumbled and disorganized in your head and it just tumbles out in non-sequitur babble.

Your statement above is the statement of a FEEBLE MIND, it neither sounds very scientific nor logical!! Where did you study the "science of styles of writing" OR conducted experiments on "trolls in Arab and non-Arab countries"?

And to quote you again..."DUMBASS!!!!!"

[maj. tom]

^^ *ahem* I have studied those styles of writing and expression on the al jazeera network and forums which the CIA keep a very close eye on. Anyone takes a trip there via google for 6 minutes and compares it to what you have been writing for the past few days and....well let me not bias that experiment for those who want to conduct it. Your brain goes into a fury of wrath and ignorance when it hits upon a concept opposed to the brainwashing you have had since you were a child. Which I note in the bold and enlarged font.

[TRAE]

lol this adamB guy sound like a troll from one of those arab countries eh? look at his style of writing.

Maj tom,

To quote you from lower down on this thread:
You are really hyped on on attacking folks when you yourself do not understand what you are saying. And the way you write shows that things really are jumbled and disorganized in your head and it just tumbles out in non-sequitur babble.

Your statement above is the statement of a FEEBLE MIND, it neither sounds very scientific nor logical!! Where did you study the "science of styles of writing" OR conducted experiments on "trolls in Arab and non-Arab countries"?

And to quote you again..."DUMBASS!!!!!"

take it down a notch there g... yuh conflicting with yuh self

[UML]

If your meat is not permissible for them, they will not eat it. Some also hold the view that vege food "offered to other gods" (prayers done on the food) makes it impermissible for them to eat. All meat offered to "other gods" are impermissible for some religions.

You should know your neighbour better, and dont invite him if he wont eat your food OR know that he wont eat your food and be OK with that if he still comes. The fact that he came means that he respects you. So that should count for something. The ones who didnt come and didnt let you know upfront that they wont come are cowards or may feel uncomfortable to let you know their position.

GOD IS ONE YES ...but all gods are not one.

ah ha look we have one right here

so do u not bless your food as well in your religion? is it not god you offering it to? so who giving them permission not to eat? they have a hotline to god?

how would you feel if they come to your prayers and say "nah i cah eat your food you prayer over it and god eh call meh back to give me permission" ?

OP...u defeat the purpose of your "prayers" or "offerings" to your "God" if u hadda be thinking abt small matters like, who come and didnt eat, who eh come at all....small ting...stick to ur own kind next time.

but then ppl go say he racial or discriminatory

btw as i said it didnt happen to me.

[sMASH]

one thing about the humans, generally, when they get an idea, they hold on to it. most times, it takes the replacement of a generation for the replacement of an idea.

so MG, we would change. but someting about trinis, we's ah special kinda dotish.

[Bareback]

Eat, doh eat, harilal, no harilal, more food for me! The only disrespect is if they say they are coming and they never show. But the last time I checked, there isn't a god that endorses hate!

[bonzo.specb]

Not really applicable all round. If you invite a Muslim person to a Christian function and the meat is not Halaal, likewise if you invite a Hindu person to a Muslim function where beef is present.


If you want to take offense so be it, as long as you respect their choice.

yea that is understood

but even if.....u just dont eat the beef or u just dont eat the meat...right?

but specifically to a hindu prayers (where is only vegetarian) food and you invite a christian (who eats everything...i think)

soulya yuh never see muslim in KFC or wha? KFC eh halal

im sure it is....fast food outlets usually have a certificate which they display to customers....but as u mention it...i dont think i ever see it by kfc though

There are 6 locations that are Halaal iirc.

[Trini Hookah]

But I've had non-Hindu friends who couldn't make it to the service/function itself, I still invite them to come to eat or later in the day when convenient for them

[MG Man]

one thing about the humans, generally, when they get an idea, they hold on to it. most times, it takes the replacement of a generation for the replacement of an idea.

so MG, we would change. but someting about trinis, we's ah special kinda dotish.

not jus trinis nah......the human race in general

[Habit7]

UML it seems like you are not being very tolerant to your friend. You should be fortunate that he even came.

[maj. tom]

Not really applicable all round. If you invite a Muslim person to a Christian function and the meat is not Halaal, likewise if you invite a Hindu person to a Muslim function where beef is present.


If you want to take offense so be it, as long as you respect their choice.

yea that is understood

but even if.....u just dont eat the beef or u just dont eat the meat...right?

but specifically to a hindu prayers (where is only vegetarian) food and you invite a christian (who eats everything...i think)

soulya yuh never see muslim in KFC or wha? KFC eh halal

[/quote]

*taps the guy in the line in front me* "Sir? excuse me? are you a muslim? sorry i had to ask because it's hard to identify muslims in any crowd since they're just people and look like everyone else. So what are YOU doing here in KFC tonight eh? Eating meat that was slaughtered humanely eh? Well let me suggest you go to Royal castle where their meat is left to bleed out and suffer and therefore be allowed into heaven after they die. Well just trying to make sure you do what that book says..."

[cinco]

i duz jes go an ask fuh poo-c
is nuh meat

[UML]

UML it seems like you are not being very tolerant to your friend. You should be fortunate that he even came.

true. but it is about those who dont come as well because of their religion

but doesnt their religious leaders preach about the same loving one another and unity and respect and dem ting

[~Vēġó~]

I honestly doh cater/care who come or doh come, who eat or eh eat.........

[nareshseep]

[UML]

I honestly doh cater/care who come or doh come, who eat or eh eat.........

yea me too....i just feel sorry for the not so fortunate who go out of their way to prepare for their friends and it wastes.

[~Vēġó~]

^^^then they will learn for next time.....

[TRAE]

ah guessing chinese is halal too

[Habit7]

UML it seems like you are not being very tolerant to your friend. You should be fortunate that he even came.

true. but it is about those who dont come as well because of their religion

but doesnt their religious leaders preach about the same loving one another and unity and respect and dem ting

They choose not to come because of their free choice, they are not smashing your murtis or making fun of your bhajans. They politely say no, just as you have a right to decline going to their religious service.

[RBphoto]

Well, this is not exactly talking about religion per-se... but about our interactions and willingness to accept our brother's religious celebrations as social events. In my experience, I don't invite my wife's family to my hindu prayers in my house. They are too biggoted and would not come anyway. I have invited other muslim friends to my home for such occasions and they came, helped us cook, clean and generally were agreeable with the whole affair. It really is about individuals.

As for going to muslim and christian prayers... i have a problem being called Idol worshiper, outsider, not of the book etc. I used to keep an open mind, but now I refuse to go to any Muslim prayers/ jumma, and only select christian prayers. Why should I attend where I willl be cursed and denounced as worshiping the devil? I not hating them for their thing, just I have too much pride to put myself in a position for someone to tell me that my world view is wrong, and I am less of a preson for holding the view.

Cheers......

If you inviting to to a hindu eating... PM me the location nah.... I will come instead of your friend.

[UML]

Well, this is not exactly talking about religion per-se... but about our interactions and willingness to accept our brother's religious celebrations as social events. In my experience, I don't invite my wife's family to my hindu prayers in my house. They are too biggoted and would not come anyway. I have invited other muslim friends to my home for such occasions and they came, helped us cook, clean and generally were agreeable with the whole affair. It really is about individuals.

As for going to muslim and christian prayers... i have a problem being called Idol worshiper, outsider, not of the book etc. I used to keep an open mind, but now I refuse to go to any Muslim prayers/ jumma, and only select christian prayers. Why should I attend where I willl be cursed and denounced as worshiping the devil? I not hating them for their thing, just I have too much pride to put myself in a position for someone to tell me that my world view is wrong, and I am less of a preson for holding the view.

Cheers......

If you inviting to to a hindu eating... PM me the location nah.... I will come instead of your friend.

well it understood if ur religion being criticized you will feel offended and not attend...but hinduism is all encompassing....i doh think i even hear any pundit preaching against another religion (k i doh go prayers that often..have to be on tuner getting u guys angry ) more than likely i hear pundits mentioning how similar hinduism is to other religions and how their idols relate to the other religions....someone more knowledgeable could add their input on this...cant remember

[Kasey]

^^ lol lulz dumbass. mathematics is based on axioms and logic built up from the most basic concepts until you get complex calculations. which is why you started learning math at kindergarden all the way up to university, each level more advanced than the next. the same way a computer chip calculates everything with 1s and 0s despite the complexity of the input. You think scientists just make up things eh?

The math models work and fit hypotheses, but that does not mean they are the only explanation for a phenomenon. String theory, quantum theory, QED theory, all work mathematically, they're hypothesis of how the universe works but it's really not of any use if we cannot conduct experiments in the real world to observe it. As I pointed out in an earlier post, you cannot disprove a hypothesis, only find evidence that supports one. If you think God exists, that's fine. There has never been any evidence or interaction of him and the physical world to observe an effect of him and therefore, the hypothesis is null. If we find evidence of him in the future, science does not need to adjust itself, it will merely fit in with the logic of the Scientific Method, which most people here clearly do not understand.

You are really hyped on on attacking folks when you yourself do not understand what you are saying. And the way you write shows that things really are jumbled and disorganized in your head and it just tumbles out in non-sequitur babble. You read things and don't understand what you read and interpret it in a biased, non-scientific fashion that is contradictory of all the work such men like Hawkins did to get there.

Please refrain from the lil boy name calling. Its just makes you look immature and closed minded.

AdamB Plz take note also, this was a mature discussion until you new bozos entered this thread.

If you were here and observing what happened in this thread from the beginning, you would have realised that many of the things that are now being brought up, were already discussed many times before.

tIP: Check the join date of the user you are replying to, and search his/her posts in this thread.

If you just blurt out whats on ur mind, the many of us in here who were here from the begining just laughing at you guys.

Another thing is that alot of the users in here have developed some sort of respect in their writings, and deserve as much, since they were here from the beginning, and SHOULD be considered mature users (eg, Dspike, Duane, even sMASH, and sad to say, even Megadoc and bluefete LOL), but some of you (babies) who now join and want to blab ur mouths at the "Adults" here making this thread a never ending laughing cycle.

JUST AVE SOME RESPECT IN PEOPLES WRITINGS PLEASE. This is a debate / discussion.