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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » Yesterday, 8:33 pm

alfa wrote:How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much
Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby alfa » Yesterday, 9:10 pm

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alfa wrote:How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much
Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

They did actually. In the early days of Islam the battle of Khaybar was fought against Jewish agression both direct and indirect.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » Yesterday, 9:48 pm

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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Apologise for retaliation?


apologize for targeting civilians by individually shooting them dead or bombing them with grenades by the 100s and taking them hostage, oh and raping a few women too. and they gladly recorded a woman on video with blood on her pants right between her legs being put into a vehicle so dont say it didnt happen.

I absolutely do not condone the Oct 7th attack in any way.
I am only saying that this did not start on Oct 7th - there has been conflict in that area with attacks from both sides for over 7 decades. Oct 7th was a retaliation.
I would love to know when this whole thing started in your opinion

But we went through this much earlier in the thread. And it's not my opinion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
So it matters not to you,I assume that the occupants before the British ousted them were also colonizers of the area that displaced the previous occupants?
[url]History of Palestine - Wikipedia https://share.google/TVfVIolNdZDFZ2TaF[/url]

The current conflict is about the Palestinians and the State of Israel.
When I said it is not my opinion I meant it is based on fact and not just what I think.
And yes the area is ancient and has been populated for millennia.
This is my problem.I can't cherry pick history

Who's cherry-picking?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » Yesterday, 9:53 pm

timelapse wrote:
alfa wrote:How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much
Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

Jerusalem is a sacred place for Jews, Christians and Muslims.
But this conflict is not about religion. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement by definition. The Levant is a subregion of West Asia that borders the Eastern Mediterranean sea to the west of which Palestine is part of.

Now I'm even more curious to know what you think happened in Palestine post WWII to lead to this current conflict.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » Today, 3:51 am

If you look at Europe, and their shitstorm due to illegal immigrants from this region, we should appreciate what Israel is fighting against.

Rather than be grateful in integrate with the new culture, they instead want to mold Europe into the garbage pile they left behind. The problem is, limp wristed men, doh have the strength or courage to lay down the law, and want everyone to be manipulated by some false sense of morality birthed by a culture that actively hates them

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » Today, 8:42 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
timelapse wrote:
alfa wrote:How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much
Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

Jerusalem is a sacred place for Jews, Christians and Muslims.
But this conflict is not about religion. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement by definition. The Levant is a subregion of West Asia that borders the Eastern Mediterranean sea to the west of which Palestine is part of.

Now I'm even more curious to know what you think happened in Palestine post WWII to lead to this current conflict.
To the Zionists,it is about religion.
Apparently the God of Abraham is an ole injun.
He promised all three of his children the land and told each of them that they are the chosen one.
Every modern occupant of that land says that they are the rightful owner of the land.
As far as all Abrahamic religions agree in their scriptures, that land belonged to Egypt. However it was done, Egypt gave that land to the Zios as per the Balfour Agreement, because it was theirs to give.
Let's bring it home.
You have squatters on land that has been in your family for decades. You decide to sell that land. The buyer bulldozes the squatter's houses etc.
Are you saying that the squatters have all the rights?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » Today, 9:21 am

matr1x wrote:If you look at Europe, and their shitstorm due to illegal immigrants from this region, we should appreciate what Israel is fighting against.

Rather than be grateful in integrate with the new culture, they instead want to mold Europe into the garbage pile they left behind. The problem is, limp wristed men, doh have the strength or courage to lay down the law, and want everyone to be manipulated by some false sense of morality birthed by a culture that actively hates them
Europeans love to live in UAE ,Dubai ,Kuwait, Bahrain.

So u talking utter śĥîŧ

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » Today, 9:26 am

zoom rader wrote:
matr1x wrote:If you look at Europe, and their shitstorm due to illegal immigrants from this region, we should appreciate what Israel is fighting against.

Rather than be grateful in integrate with the new culture, they instead want to mold Europe into the garbage pile they left behind. The problem is, limp wristed men, doh have the strength or courage to lay down the law, and want everyone to be manipulated by some false sense of morality birthed by a culture that actively hates them
Europeans love to live in UAE ,Dubai ,Kuwait, Bahrain.

So u talking utter śĥîŧ



Fool, are the illegals coming from those countries?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » Today, 11:10 am

timelapse wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
timelapse wrote:
alfa wrote:How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much
Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

Jerusalem is a sacred place for Jews, Christians and Muslims.
But this conflict is not about religion. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement by definition. The Levant is a subregion of West Asia that borders the Eastern Mediterranean sea to the west of which Palestine is part of.

Now I'm even more curious to know what you think happened in Palestine post WWII to lead to this current conflict.
To the Zionists,it is about religion.
Apparently the God of Abraham is an ole injun.
He promised all three of his children the land and told each of them that they are the chosen one.
Every modern occupant of that land says that they are the rightful owner of the land.
As far as all Abrahamic religions agree in their scriptures, that land belonged to Egypt. However it was done, Egypt gave that land to the Zios as per the Balfour Agreement, because it was theirs to give.
Let's bring it home.
You have squatters on land that has been in your family for decades. You decide to sell that land. The buyer bulldozes the squatter's houses etc.
Are you saying that the squatters have all the rights?

Check your history
Palestine was never “owned” by Egypt.
Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip from 1948 to 1967 but never annexed it.
For centuries Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire (from the 1500s to World War I). It was not part of Egypt even though Egypt itself was under Ottoman control.
After WWI Britain took control of Palestine under a League of Nations mandate — it was not Egyptian territory.
Theodor Herzl the father of modern political Zionism initially considered Argentina and Uganda as possible places to set up a Jewish state. The Balfour Declaration saw the British open up to the idea of a Jewish state being in Palestine.
In 1947 the United Nations proposed a partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. The Zionist leadership accepted the plan but the Arab states (including Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq) rejected it and entered the conflict after Israel declared independence in 1948.
Keep in mind Zionist leaders in Palestine unilaterally declared Israel as an independent state - not through a vote at the UN or agreement with Arab states. Israel declared itself a state by itself and then sought international recognition afterward.
After the war Jordan annexed the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip in 1948 — though it did not annex it, unlike what Netanyahu is planning to do now.
Egyptian control over Gaza was formalized by the 1949 Armistice Agreements and lasted until Israel captured Gaza in the 1967 Six-Day War.
From 1967 to 2005 Israel maintained military control over Gaza and established Israeli settlements there even though Gaza's population remained predominantly Palestinian living under Israeli occupation until Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 but kept control over its land and maritime borders and airspace (no airport allowed), population registry, ID card, passport etc, blockade of goods, control over fuel and electricity, imports. The UN considers Gaza is still occupied territory under international law.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » Today, 11:12 am

zoom rader wrote:
matr1x wrote:If you look at Europe, and their shitstorm due to illegal immigrants from this region, we should appreciate what Israel is fighting against.

Rather than be grateful in integrate with the new culture, they instead want to mold Europe into the garbage pile they left behind. The problem is, limp wristed men, doh have the strength or courage to lay down the law, and want everyone to be manipulated by some false sense of morality birthed by a culture that actively hates them
Europeans love to live in UAE ,Dubai ,Kuwait, Bahrain.

So u talking utter śĥîŧ
Whispers softly: Dubai is the UAE (as is Sharjah and Abu Dhabi and the other four Emirates nobody remembers).


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