Riots in the USA

[pugboy]

that is the tricky part, cops dealing easy with the suspect because of cool behaviour.

the cops unfortunately relaxed when he seemed cool during the standup questioning and breathalyzer
its not easy situation to deal with, fellas on drugs can get superhuman strength too

[rspann]

this isn’t a free pass to drive like a madman (or woman) in the mall parking lot. That word “except” is followed by some traffic violations that officers can enforce on private property. These include impaired driving, reckless driving, negligent driving, vehicular homicide, vehicular assault and hit-and-run traffic collisions. I think we can agree that even on private property those kinds of actions deserve to be investigated and the laws prohibiting them enforced.

To get back to the original question, failing to stop for a stop sign in a parking lot wouldn’t get a driver a traffic infraction, but if in the process of not stopping the driver showed complete disregard for the safety of others, the driver could get arrested.

[adnj]

this isn’t a free pass to drive like a madman (or woman) in the mall parking lot. That word “except” is followed by some traffic violations that officers can enforce on private property. These include impaired driving, reckless driving, negligent driving, vehicular homicide, vehicular assault and hit-and-run traffic collisions. I think we can agree that even on private property those kinds of actions deserve to be investigated and the laws prohibiting them enforced.

To get back to the original question, failing to stop for a stop sign in a parking lot wouldn’t get a driver a traffic infraction, but if in the process of not stopping the driver showed complete disregard for the safety of others, the driver could get arrested.

As before, the issue isn't reckless use of a motor vehicle. It is about whether DUI was the issue.

Additionally, it seems like everyone involved made wrong choices. There was little justification for resisting and fleeing a police officer. There was little justification for shooting an assailant that is armed with a Taser twice in the back.

[rspann]

What is impaired driving in the paragraph I quoted?

[Ben_spanna]

And our police here is so much easier on criminals... just look at how many times police have gone into places to arrest wanted persons or people dusturbing the peace and in addition to resisting arrest the "friends" and neighbors start cursing and verbally abusing them, police here should taze people to the ground when they resist... deal with accordingly...
Bad boys cant expect to be treated like queens!... deal with them exactly the same way they kill and stab people...........

[adnj]

And our police here is so much easier on criminals... just look at how many times police have gone into places to arrest wanted persons or people dusturbing the peace and in addition to resisting arrest the "friends" and neighbors start cursing and verbally abusing them, police here should taze people to the ground when they resist... deal with accordingly...
Bad boys cant expect to be treated like queens!... deal with them exactly the same way they kill and stab people...........

There are nearly 11 million arrests in the US every year. We only hear about the ones that went bad.

[adnj]

What is impaired driving in the paragraph I quoted?

DWI/DUI are typically interchangeable.

[sMASH]

when the officer forced him to move the car, it was not known or even suspected he was drunk. its after he moved the car, then they suspected it, and then confirmed it.
police officers did well, up until pulling the trigger. idont think that incident warranted pulling the trigger. they had all the man info, they could collect him after.

[Ben_spanna]

when the officer forced him to move the car, it was not known or even suspected he was drunk. its after he moved the car, then they suspected it, and then confirmed it.
police officers did well, up until pulling the trigger. idont think that incident warranted pulling the trigger. they had all the man info, they could collect him after.

So it would have been responsible to let him go free with a police tazer and the fact that he was threatening the police themselves with it???
I think you all are quite biased!
They did what was necessary..........

[zoom rader]

when the officer forced him to move the car, it was not known or even suspected he was drunk. its after he moved the car, then they suspected it, and then confirmed it.
police officers did well, up until pulling the trigger. idont think that incident warranted pulling the trigger. they had all the man info, they could collect him after.

So it would have been responsible to let him go free with a police tazer and the fact that he was threatening the police themselves with it???
I think you all are quite biased!
They did what was necessary..........

He was never threatening the police, he was running away.

That's why the cop got fired due to misuse of deadly force from the internal investigation after watching the body cam.

[sMASH]

when the officer forced him to move the car, it was not known or even suspected he was drunk. its after he moved the car, then they suspected it, and then confirmed it.
police officers did well, up until pulling the trigger. idont think that incident warranted pulling the trigger. they had all the man info, they could collect him after.

So it would have been responsible to let him go free with a police tazer and the fact that he was threatening the police themselves with it???
I think you all are quite biased!
They did what was necessary..........

this is where the discretion comes into play. the man was not violent for the duration of the long drawn out process. he was just a lil tight, but over the legal limit to drive, so the DUI was justified. the man made a bad act by breaking free, and pulling the tazzor, yes. but he just a lil tight. give him a couple minutes to cool off, then he might settle back down.

he was not an impenitent threat.
the man wasnt a hardened criminal, a killer, involved a violent crime at that point in time

but even though i disagree with firing the gun, the officers did very well. their training and instinct was to pull the trigger. understandable. i think they should have made another concession and give him a lil time to settle out.
at the end of the day, the man dead. coudl have avoided it.

[zoom rader]

when the officer forced him to move the car, it was not known or even suspected he was drunk. its after he moved the car, then they suspected it, and then confirmed it.
police officers did well, up until pulling the trigger. idont think that incident warranted pulling the trigger. they had all the man info, they could collect him after.

Cop said they smelt Alcohol in the car when the door was opened.

But that's not why he got fired. He got fired using deadly force .

[zoom rader]

And our police here is so much easier on criminals... just look at how many times police have gone into places to arrest wanted persons or people dusturbing the peace and in addition to resisting arrest the "friends" and neighbors start cursing and verbally abusing them, police here should taze people to the ground when they resist... deal with accordingly...
Bad boys cant expect to be treated like queens!... deal with them exactly the same way they kill and stab people...........

There are nearly 11 million arrests in the US every year. We only hear about the ones that went bad.

YouTube has tons of vids of cases of DUI. Check the DUI lawyer channel.

There was a case where a guy was sleeping in his car drunk in a parking lot. He won his case as he was not on a public road .

[sMASH]

And our police here is so much easier on criminals... just look at how many times police have gone into places to arrest wanted persons or people dusturbing the peace and in addition to resisting arrest the "friends" and neighbors start cursing and verbally abusing them, police here should taze people to the ground when they resist... deal with accordingly...
Bad boys cant expect to be treated like queens!... deal with them exactly the same way they kill and stab people...........

There are nearly 11 million arrests in the US every year. We only hear about the ones that went bad.

YouTube has tons of vids of cases of DUI. Check the DUI lawyer channel.

There was a case where a guy was sleeping in his car drunk in a parking lot. He won his case as he was not on a public road .

imo, this one different, as he was not in a parking lot, but in the section that u have to be driving to reach. all the talk about the girlfren and who drop who where was to establish that he didnt just jump in the car, where it was and started to sleep. he jumped in the car and drove it to where it was met by the officer.

[Les Bain]

Want to hear the toxicology report from this. Guy was functioning alright for a 'drunk' but it felt like he was way worse off.

[adnj]

Once you behind the wheel you could be charged , you are in control of the vehicle. He dropped asleep in the line and they called 911 . He wasnt in the parking lot sleeping .

Control of a vehicle is true in Trinidad but not in all US states. The statutes may reference driving or operating by typically not "control". Also, the car was in a privately owned lot and not a public roadway.

In most US states it is also legal to drive in a private lot with no driver's permit or vehicle registration -- that calls into question the applicability or any law regarding driving under the influence. Directing a driver suspected of DUI to move his car has typically resulted in charges being dropped due to entrapment.

The lot is open to the public which brings applicability to another set of laws regarding public behavior and display. Public intoxication typically has a much higher blood alcohol level.

And our police here is so much easier on criminals... just look at how many times police have gone into places to arrest wanted persons or people dusturbing the peace and in addition to resisting arrest the "friends" and neighbors start cursing and verbally abusing them, police here should taze people to the ground when they resist... deal with accordingly...
Bad boys cant expect to be treated like queens!... deal with them exactly the same way they kill and stab people...........

There are nearly 11 million arrests in the US every year. We only hear about the ones that went bad.

YouTube has tons of vids of cases of DUI. Check the DUI lawyer channel.

There was a case where a guy was sleeping in his car drunk in a parking lot. He won his case as he was not on a public road .

Exactly.

[zoom rader]

And our police here is so much easier on criminals... just look at how many times police have gone into places to arrest wanted persons or people dusturbing the peace and in addition to resisting arrest the "friends" and neighbors start cursing and verbally abusing them, police here should taze people to the ground when they resist... deal with accordingly...
Bad boys cant expect to be treated like queens!... deal with them exactly the same way they kill and stab people...........

There are nearly 11 million arrests in the US every year. We only hear about the ones that went bad.

YouTube has tons of vids of cases of DUI. Check the DUI lawyer channel.

There was a case where a guy was sleeping in his car drunk in a parking lot. He won his case as he was not on a public road .

imo, this one different, as he was not in a parking lot, but in the section that u have to be driving to reach. all the talk about the girlfren and who drop who where was to establish that he didnt just jump in the car, where it was and started to sleep. he jumped in the car and drove it to where it was met by the officer.

That is why you don't ever talk to police. They always ask where you comming from and where you going.

They can hold & arrest you if you was in an area that had a crime. That will give them reasons to seach you car and person.

Police can legally lie to wave your rights in the US. They are trained to entrap you.

The moment you talk , they build a case on you.

[MaxPower]

I hate this world...

Before they give him a medal or a bonus...they fire the poor officer.

Damn he was so nice to him initially asking him if he was ok...”hey..hey sup ma man...pull over and take a nap”.....even when they were attempting to handcuff him....so so nice.

My heart is hurting for the officer to go through this.

[sMASH]

I hate this world...

Before they give him a medal or a bonus...they fire the poor officer.

Damn he was so nice to him initially asking him if he was ok...”hey..hey sup ma man...pull over and take a nap”.....even when they were attempting to handcuff him....so so nice.

My heart is hurting for the officer to go through this.

north korea lookin for people. u coudl apply

[zoom rader]

I hate this world...

Before they give him a medal or a bonus...they fire the poor officer.

Damn he was so nice to him initially asking him if he was ok...”hey..hey sup ma man...pull over and take a nap”.....even when they were attempting to handcuff him....so so nice.

My heart is hurting for the officer to go through this.

Cops are nice for a reason .

Good ridddens to him and I hope he's gets changed for murder.

The police heads did the correct thing to fire him.

You shoot a man in the back that has a wife and 3 kids.

[RedVEVO]

I hate this world...

Before they give him a medal or a bonus...they fire the poor officer.

Damn he was so nice to him initially asking him if he was ok...”hey..hey sup ma man...pull over and take a nap”.....even when they were attempting to handcuff him....so so nice.

My heart is hurting for the officer to go through this.

Cops are nice for a reason .

Good ridddens to him and I hope he's gets changed for murder.

The police heads did the correct thing to fire him.

You shoot a man in the back that has a wife and 3 kids.

Trini is similar

BUT Trini will get NO "justice" ..

In USA the incident will be investigated .

Trump will personally investigate

Trini President will just order a side of bacon with the fries ..

[zoom rader]

I hate this world...

Before they give him a medal or a bonus...they fire the poor officer.

Damn he was so nice to him initially asking him if he was ok...”hey..hey sup ma man...pull over and take a nap”.....even when they were attempting to handcuff him....so so nice.

My heart is hurting for the officer to go through this.

Cops are nice for a reason .

Good ridddens to him and I hope he's gets changed for murder.

The police heads did the correct thing to fire him.

You shoot a man in the back that has a wife and 3 kids.

Trini is similar

Trini will get NO "justice" ..

In USA the incident will be investigated .

Trump will personally investigate

incidents are only investigated when they are exposed on social media.

The media in the US hide alot of stuff cause they are all white owned and follow the code.

[RedVEVO]

I hate this world...

Before they give him a medal or a bonus...they fire the poor officer.

Damn he was so nice to him initially asking him if he was ok...”hey..hey sup ma man...pull over and take a nap”.....even when they were attempting to handcuff him....so so nice.

My heart is hurting for the officer to go through this.

Cops are nice for a reason .

Good ridddens to him and I hope he's gets changed for murder.

The police heads did the correct thing to fire him.

You shoot a man in the back that has a wife and 3 kids.

Trini is similar

Trini will get NO "justice" ..

In USA the incident will be investigated .

Trump will personally investigate

incident are only investigated when they are exposed on social media.

The media in the US hide alot of stuff cause they are all white owned and follow the code.

Trini media will hide stuff ..

Trini Virus 19 is way way understated ..

There are approx 3,000 PLUS people who are being tested ..
Samples sent to be tested ..
And TT has NO REPORT ON THE FINDINGS ..

USA started to hide the statistics ..

Why ?

Elections .

[adnj]

I believe they want more accountability for the police. The police have lots of protection from lawsuits etc which gives them the impression that they are above the laws that they are supposed to be there to protect.

It's Called Qualified Immunity and its protects US police.

They pushing to remove this .


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity

That is a completely incorrect description of the application of qualified immunity.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/05/30/police-george-floyd-qualified-immunity-supreme-court-column/5283349002/

Your comment is in error. Period. You are citing an opinion, and a misrepresentative opinion at that.

Qualified immunity protects the reasonable official from legal peril while performing their duties.

Relevant precedent:

Malley v. Briggs

In Malley v. Briggs, 457 U.S. 335 (1986), the Supreme Court examined immunity for police officers with regard to acting on the basis of a faulty warrant. The Court held that qualified immunity does not apply to a police officer when the office wrongfully arrests someone on the basis of a warrant, if the officer who could not reasonably believe that there was probable cause for the warrant. Reasonability is determined by the action that an objectively reasonable officer would take.

Supreme Court Will Not Reexamine Doctrine That Shields Police In Misconduct Suits

June 15, 20209:55 AM ET

Andrew Harnik/AP

Amid the tumult over police brutality allegations across the country, the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday refused to reexamine the much-criticized, modern-day legal doctrine created by judges that has shielded police and other government officials from lawsuits over their conduct.

In an unsigned order, the court declined to hear cases seeking reexamination of the doctrine of "qualified immunity." Justice Clarence Thomas dissented, saying the "qualified immunity doctrine appears to stray from the statutory text."

It takes the votes of four justices to grant review of a case.

Developed in recent decades by the high court, the qualified immunity doctrine, as applied to police, initially asks two questions: Did police use excessive force, and if they did, should they have known that their conduct was illegal because it violated a "clearly established" prior court ruling that barred such conduct?

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/15/87685381 ... onduct-sui

[zoom rader]

I hate this world...

Before they give him a medal or a bonus...they fire the poor officer.

Damn he was so nice to him initially asking him if he was ok...”hey..hey sup ma man...pull over and take a nap”.....even when they were attempting to handcuff him....so so nice.

My heart is hurting for the officer to go through this.

Cops are nice for a reason .

Good ridddens to him and I hope he's gets changed for murder.

The police heads did the correct thing to fire him.

You shoot a man in the back that has a wife and 3 kids.

Trini is similar

Trini will get NO "justice" ..

In USA the incident will be investigated .

Trump will personally investigate

incident are only investigated when they are exposed on social media.

The media in the US hide alot of stuff cause they are all white owned and follow the code.

Trini media will hide stuff ..

Trini Virus 19 is way way understated ..

There are approx 3,000 PLUS people who are being tested ..
Samples sent to be tested ..
And TT has NO REPORT ON THE FINDINGS ..

USA started to hide the statistics ..

Why ?

Elections .

Trini media is not a newspaper serice.

It's a politcal propaganda tool use to enslave PNM ppl to think in a certain way

[MaxPower]

I hate this world...

Before they give him a medal or a bonus...they fire the poor officer.

Damn he was so nice to him initially asking him if he was ok...”hey..hey sup ma man...pull over and take a nap”.....even when they were attempting to handcuff him....so so nice.

My heart is hurting for the officer to go through this.

Cops are nice for a reason .

Good ridddens to him and I hope he's gets changed for murder.

The police heads did the correct thing to fire him.

You shoot a man in the back that has a wife and 3 kids.

And so what if he gets shoot in the back? What is your point?

Wife and 3 kids? AND he wasted AF behind the wheel? Such a great father figure, such responsibility. What kind of example is that. Save the family card bullsheit.

Now what if this wife or kids you expect ppl to show sympathy over had a medical emergency? You really think this “family man” could have responded appropriately? The dead beat dad was struggling to find his license for heavens.

But i understand where ur coming from, its a BLM mentality though eh, always praising/defending criminals.

Think it over again Zoomy, i want you to agree with me.

[RedVEVO]

I hate this world...

Before they give him a medal or a bonus...they fire the poor officer.

Damn he was so nice to him initially asking him if he was ok...”hey..hey sup ma man...pull over and take a nap”.....even when they were attempting to handcuff him....so so nice.

My heart is hurting for the officer to go through this.

Cops are nice for a reason .

Good ridddens to him and I hope he's gets changed for murder.

The police heads did the correct thing to fire him.

You shoot a man in the back that has a wife and 3 kids.

And so what if he gets shoot in the back? What is your point?

Wife and 3 kids? AND he wasted AF behind the wheel? Such a great father figure, such responsibility. What kind of example is that. Save the family card bullsheit.

Now what if this wife or kids you expect ppl to show sympathy over had a medical emergency? You really think this “family man” could have responded appropriately? The dead beat dad was struggling to find his license for heavens.

But i understand where ur coming from, its a BLM mentality though eh, always praising/defending criminals.

Think it over again Zoomy, i want you to agree with me.

No matter what kind of father he was ..

You should not shoot a man in the back ..

( Well unless he NOT paying taxes and is a tax evader and driving on public tax paid road,
and getting free medical and drinking WASA water .. and living behind a Mosque )

i want you to agree with me

[zoom rader]

I hate this world...

Before they give him a medal or a bonus...they fire the poor officer.

Damn he was so nice to him initially asking him if he was ok...”hey..hey sup ma man...pull over and take a nap”.....even when they were attempting to handcuff him....so so nice.

My heart is hurting for the officer to go through this.

Cops are nice for a reason .

Good ridddens to him and I hope he's gets changed for murder.

The police heads did the correct thing to fire him.

You shoot a man in the back that has a wife and 3 kids.

And so what if he gets shoot in the back? What is your point?

Wife and 3 kids? AND he wasted AF behind the wheel? Such a great father figure, such responsibility. What kind of example is that. Save the family card bullsheit.

Now what if this wife or kids you expect ppl to show sympathy over had a medical emergency? You really think this “family man” could have responded appropriately? The dead beat dad was struggling to find his license for heavens.

But i understand where ur coming from, its a BLM mentality though eh, always praising/defending criminals.

Think it over again Zoomy, i want you to agree with me.

Nope I not agreeing with and so did the police heads that fired him.

[sMASH]

the actions of this officer, like what law is he enforcing?

[zoom rader]

the actions of this officer, like what law is he enforcing?

When cops dont get a moring blow job or their hooker not available they take it out on the public.

Females officers are the worst and most are dikes