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So who won the pandemic debate?

Poll ended at August 3rd, 2023, 3:48 pm

Antivaxxers - Ah still alive! babylon cyah kill me!
6
43%
Covidians - Small pin does chook hard but it save the world.
6
43%
Me eh care - Allyuh keep arguing nah man, ah wining on dis bumper right here.
2
14%
 
Total votes: 14

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Postby adnj » March 27th, 2023, 5:02 pm

sMASH wrote:So now it's a productivity problem.

Years ago in my industry time, eveybody used to come to work with the virus and spread it up to eveybody else. For some was slight, some got it heavy and had to stay home.
Bosses used to bend and screw for absenteeism, so they used to come to work.
Then we had to struggle to get men to fill in for those that got sick bad.

Fix the attitude towards sick days first.


Covee is a normal flu season virus now.


But I agree, once ur visibly sick, stay home. No need to spread the strong strains of viruses around.


It's always been a productivity problem, but only for those that understand the issues. You get a pass for not knowing.



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Postby sMASH » March 27th, 2023, 5:10 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:So now it's a productivity problem.

Years ago in my industry time, eveybody used to come to work with the virus and spread it up to eveybody else. For some was slight, some got it heavy and had to stay home.
Bosses used to bend and screw for absenteeism, so they used to come to work.
Then we had to struggle to get men to fill in for those that got sick bad.

Fix the attitude towards sick days first.


Covee is a normal flu season virus now.


But I agree, once ur visibly sick, stay home. No need to spread the strong strains of viruses around.


It's always been a productivity problem, but only for those that understand the issues. You get a pass for not knowing.



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Covee, with out a test, is indistinguishable from the common cold.

It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.

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Postby adnj » March 27th, 2023, 5:14 pm

sMASH wrote:It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.


So then it was a productivity problem but now it's less of a productivity problem.

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Postby sMASH » March 27th, 2023, 5:16 pm

People get back pain, get sick leave to go hospital, test positive for covid and that gets counted as covid productivity loss.

Plandemic. Supported by bricks

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Postby adnj » March 27th, 2023, 5:21 pm

sMASH wrote:People get back pain, get sick leave to go hospital, test positive for covid and that gets counted as covid productivity loss.

Plandemic. Supported by bricks
So it was a big productivity problem.
But you can't keep your lies straight.

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Postby sMASH » March 27th, 2023, 5:24 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:People get back pain, get sick leave to go hospital, test positive for covid and that gets counted as covid productivity loss.

Plandemic. Supported by bricks
So it was a big productivity problem.
But you can't keep your lies straight.
Following fauci and covid Vax manufacturers... Lying back and forth. for dumb bricks to eat up and peddle.

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Postby adnj » March 27th, 2023, 5:26 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:People get back pain, get sick leave to go hospital, test positive for covid and that gets counted as covid productivity loss.

Plandemic. Supported by bricks
So it was a big productivity problem.
But you can't keep your lies straight.
Following fauci and covid Vax manufacturers... Lying back and forth. for dumb bricks to eat up and peddle.
Mommy said little Smashie was cute, smart and lucky.
Mommy lied.
Little Smashie learned how to lie at home.

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Postby The_Honourable » March 27th, 2023, 5:29 pm

Both of allyuh going at it again?

Please stay on topic.

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Postby redmanjp » March 27th, 2023, 5:39 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:So now it's a productivity problem.

Years ago in my industry time, eveybody used to come to work with the virus and spread it up to eveybody else. For some was slight, some got it heavy and had to stay home.
Bosses used to bend and screw for absenteeism, so they used to come to work.
Then we had to struggle to get men to fill in for those that got sick bad.

Fix the attitude towards sick days first.


Covee is a normal flu season virus now.


But I agree, once ur visibly sick, stay home. No need to spread the strong strains of viruses around.


It's always been a productivity problem, but only for those that understand the issues. You get a pass for not knowing.



https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230327/52620d64d5ccd3c0c3b0e79eb32e81ee.jpg
Covee, with out a test, is indistinguishable from the common cold.

It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.


maybe for some- for me i never got any fever and stayed sick for 9 days with a cold. and a cold is not a flu either - last time i had a flu was October/November 2019 and was home for 4 days - i did have a fever, but even so that was shorter than when i had covid last month.

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Postby sMASH » March 27th, 2023, 7:26 pm

Adjn brain have a productivity problem for common sense.

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Postby adnj » March 27th, 2023, 7:41 pm

redmanjp wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:So now it's a productivity problem.

Years ago in my industry time, eveybody used to come to work with the virus and spread it up to eveybody else. For some was slight, some got it heavy and had to stay home.
Bosses used to bend and screw for absenteeism, so they used to come to work.
Then we had to struggle to get men to fill in for those that got sick bad.

Fix the attitude towards sick days first.


Covee is a normal flu season virus now.


But I agree, once ur visibly sick, stay home. No need to spread the strong strains of viruses around.


It's always been a productivity problem, but only for those that understand the issues. You get a pass for not knowing.



https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230327/52620d64d5ccd3c0c3b0e79eb32e81ee.jpg
Covee, with out a test, is indistinguishable from the common cold.

It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.


maybe for some- for me i never got any fever and stayed sick for 9 days with a cold. and a cold is not a flu either - last time i had a flu was October/November 2019 and was home for 4 days - i did have a fever, but even so that was shorter than when i had covid last month.


There are specific differences of symptoms betwen COVID and the common cold: diarrhea, nausea and vomiting are COVID symptoms that NEVER happen with a common cold infection.

You will rarely have a headache from the common cold but headaches are typical with COVID.

COVID has "flu-like" symptoms, so it is more difficult to differentiate COVID from the flu.

You will rarely experience a loss of taste or smell with the flu but loss of taste and smell is a typical COVID symptom.

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Postby adnj » March 27th, 2023, 8:07 pm

sMASH wrote:Covee, with out a test, is indistinguishable from the common cold.

It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.


Wow, you really need to get your facts straight before you spew such nonsense on the internet. Covid vaccines have slowed the spread of covid significantly, as multiple studies have shown. Covid has unfortunately caused a lot of suffering and death. And covid is not just a cold or flu, it is a serious disease that can have long-term effects on your health and well-being. You should be grateful that we have effective vaccines that can protect us and our loved ones from this pandemic, instead of spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories. Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and get vaccinated as soon as possible. Trust me, you won't regret it.

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Postby ruffneck_12 » March 28th, 2023, 8:15 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Covee, with out a test, is indistinguishable from the common cold.

It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.


Wow, you really need to get your facts straight before you spew such nonsense on the internet. Covid vaccines have slowed the spread of covid significantly, as multiple studies have shown. Covid has unfortunately caused a lot of suffering and death. And covid is not just a cold or flu, it is a serious disease that can have long-term effects on your health and well-being. You should be grateful that we have effective vaccines that can protect us and our loved ones from this pandemic, instead of spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories. Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and get vaccinated as soon as possible. Trust me, you won't regret it.



Does natural immunity exist?

Or once u get covid , you dead for sure a good percentage of the time?

Seems like you're the one spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories here bruv

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Postby sMASH » March 28th, 2023, 10:56 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Covee, with out a test, is indistinguishable from the common cold.

It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.


Wow, you really need to get your facts straight before you spew such nonsense on the internet. Covid vaccines have slowed the spread of covid significantly, as multiple studies have shown. Covid has unfortunately caused a lot of suffering and death. And covid is not just a cold or flu, it is a serious disease that can have long-term effects on your health and well-being. You should be grateful that we have effective vaccines that can protect us and our loved ones from this pandemic, instead of spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories. Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and get vaccinated as soon as possible. Trust me, you won't regret it.
Slow it at an insignificant rate.

If u check to see how many vaxed Persons get covee, u would see it made no appreciable difference.

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Postby sMASH » March 28th, 2023, 11:00 am

U have to vaccinate 7000 persons to prevent one covid hospitalization.
But, one in evry 800 Vax, produces a vaccine injury.


Taking the Vax will result in 8 injured persons to save one person from Covee.

It was madness to broadcast Vax people that didn't need to.

Only the comorbid people needed targeting.




But, covid vaccine was not about saving lives but about using taxes to buy vaxes.

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Postby adnj » March 28th, 2023, 1:06 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Covee, with out a test, is indistinguishable from the common cold.

It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.


Wow, you really need to get your facts straight before you spew such nonsense on the internet. Covid vaccines have slowed the spread of covid significantly, as multiple studies have shown. Covid has unfortunately caused a lot of suffering and death. And covid is not just a cold or flu, it is a serious disease that can have long-term effects on your health and well-being. You should be grateful that we have effective vaccines that can protect us and our loved ones from this pandemic, instead of spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories. Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and get vaccinated as soon as possible. Trust me, you won't regret it.



Does natural immunity exist?

Or once u get covid , you dead for sure a good percentage of the time?

Seems like you're the one spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories here bruv


I can clearly see that you really want to believe that natural immunity is better than covid vaccination and I wanted to share some facts with you. According to several studies, natural immunity from covid infection is not as reliable or long-lasting as vaccine-induced immunity. For example, a study published in The Lancet found that natural immunity reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by 88% over 10 months, while vaccine-induced immunity reduced it by 95%. Another study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that natural immunity alone was less than half as effective as natural immunity plus vaccination. Natural immunity can also fade within 90 days, while vaccine immunity has been shown to last longer. So, getting vaccinated is the best way to protect yourself and others from covid, even if you have already had it. I hope this helps you make an informed decision about your health. Stay safe!

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Postby sMASH » March 28th, 2023, 2:11 pm

adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Covee, with out a test, is indistinguishable from the common cold.

It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.


Wow, you really need to get your facts straight before you spew such nonsense on the internet. Covid vaccines have slowed the spread of covid significantly, as multiple studies have shown. Covid has unfortunately caused a lot of suffering and death. And covid is not just a cold or flu, it is a serious disease that can have long-term effects on your health and well-being. You should be grateful that we have effective vaccines that can protect us and our loved ones from this pandemic, instead of spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories. Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and get vaccinated as soon as possible. Trust me, you won't regret it.



Does natural immunity exist?

Or once u get covid , you dead for sure a good percentage of the time?

Seems like you're the one spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories here bruv


I can clearly see that you really want to believe that natural immunity is better than covid vaccination and I wanted to share some facts with you. According to several studies, natural immunity from covid infection is not as reliable or long-lasting as vaccine-induced immunity. For example, a study published in The Lancet found that natural immunity reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by 88% over 10 months, while vaccine-induced immunity reduced it by 95%. Another study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that natural immunity alone was less than half as effective as natural immunity plus vaccination. Natural immunity can also fade within 90 days, while vaccine immunity has been shown to last longer. So, getting vaccinated is the best way to protect yourself and others from covid, even if you have already had it. I hope this helps you make an informed decision about your health. Stay safe!
That defies reality. No self respecting virologist will say that natural immunity is worse than manufactured immunity.
NONE!
Those studies are propaganda to sell vaxes, from taxes.

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Postby ruffneck_12 » March 28th, 2023, 3:48 pm

adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Covee, with out a test, is indistinguishable from the common cold.

It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.


Wow, you really need to get your facts straight before you spew such nonsense on the internet. Covid vaccines have slowed the spread of covid significantly, as multiple studies have shown. Covid has unfortunately caused a lot of suffering and death. And covid is not just a cold or flu, it is a serious disease that can have long-term effects on your health and well-being. You should be grateful that we have effective vaccines that can protect us and our loved ones from this pandemic, instead of spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories. Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and get vaccinated as soon as possible. Trust me, you won't regret it.



Does natural immunity exist?

Or once u get covid , you dead for sure a good percentage of the time?

Seems like you're the one spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories here bruv


I can clearly see that you really want to believe that natural immunity is better than covid vaccination and I wanted to share some facts with you. According to several studies, natural immunity from covid infection is not as reliable or long-lasting as vaccine-induced immunity. For example, a study published in The Lancet found that natural immunity reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by 88% over 10 months, while vaccine-induced immunity reduced it by 95%. Another study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that natural immunity alone was less than half as effective as natural immunity plus vaccination. Natural immunity can also fade within 90 days, while vaccine immunity has been shown to last longer. So, getting vaccinated is the best way to protect yourself and others from covid, even if you have already had it. I hope this helps you make an informed decision about your health. Stay safe!



I unders you want to follow what the professionals say an ting. Because they have the equipment to study this thing in depth and have access to info the ordinary person wouldn't.

But given all the shady stuff that Pfizer in particular has done with this vax alone ( wanting to seal the whitepaper for 75 years etc, because that's a non-shady thing to do). Also in the past they had to pay literally the largest fine in human history for bribing doctors to say some drug was safe and effective..

Given all the times scientists has lied purposely (due to bribes) in the past about certain things being safer than something else. Like what they did with Sugar vs Fats , where they said fat was the enemy, not sugar because snack companies paid them.

Given all the times the news has lied/misreported or ignored certain stories. Like when they said firey riots were mostly peaceful , or saying Epstien killed himself but they dunno how the cameras went offline.

Doesn't any of this raise any red flags with you?

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Postby sMASH » April 6th, 2023, 4:08 pm

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defe ... d-vaccine/


Pushing under false pretenses,
Need to get the NDA nullified to see what deal was struck.
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Postby ed360123 » April 11th, 2023, 4:48 pm

sMASH wrote:https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-data-waning-immunity-covid-vaccine/


Pushing under false pretenses,
Need to get the NDA nullified to see what deal was struck.
IMG_20230406_155829.jpg
Bro you really linking Children's Health Defense? The website that thinks Vaccines cause Autism and 5G makes people sick?

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ed360123 wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-data-waning-immunity-covid-vaccine/


Pushing under false pretenses,
Need to get the NDA nullified to see what deal was struck. IMG_20230406_155829.jpg
Bro you really linking Children's Health Defense? The website that thinks Vaccines cause Autism and 5G makes people sick?



Just take it with a grain of salt , dais all

The same way yall taking a vax that was manufactured by the company that got hit with the second largest fine in the medical sphere

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... minal-fine

The charges? Bribing doctors to prescribe this drug, and misreporting the side effects... (Bextra, Geodon, Zyvox, Lyrica)

SOUND FAMILIAR ?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby sMASH » April 12th, 2023, 8:46 am

I dont kno. They want the media that gets paid by the big pharma, to publish the data that big pharma have rubbish chemicals that causing damage.

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Postby adnj » April 12th, 2023, 9:36 am

ruffneck_12 wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-data-waning-immunity-covid-vaccine/


Pushing under false pretenses,
Need to get the NDA nullified to see what deal was struck. IMG_20230406_155829.jpg
Bro you really linking Children's Health Defense? The website that thinks Vaccines cause Autism and 5G makes people sick?



Just take it with a grain of salt , dais all

The same way yall taking a vax that was manufactured by the company that got hit with the second largest fine in the medical sphere

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... minal-fine

The charges? Bribing doctors to prescribe this drug, and misreporting the side effects... (Bextra, Geodon, Zyvox, Lyrica)

SOUND FAMILIAR ?

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Posting about what you don't know or can't understand is sad.

Getting giggly about not knowing what you're posting about when it was discussed, explained, and refuted, in this same thread is very sad indeed.

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July 2020: Pfizer Phase 3 human trials begin.

November 2020: Pfizer Phase 3 human trials - last of the 41, 000 enrollees receive the mRNA vaccine second doses.

December 2020: Pfizer mRNA vaccine receive EUA.

May 2021: Waning effectiveness of mRNA vaccine at 6 months after inoculation was published by Pfizer, after tracking real-world vaccine effectiveness for six months. Pfizer's CEO announced the likelihood of a need for mRNA boosters and ongoing trials that included mRNA booster effectiveness at a press conference.

Image

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... %2C%202020.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-a ... %2C%202021.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... u-n1275311

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/pfizers ... onths.html

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Postby sMASH » April 12th, 2023, 10:48 am

14yo Japanese school child suffered myocarditis after 3rd jab, with no signs of covid 19 infection, previous covid 19 infection, or infection by by virus

Biopsies of various tissues, including heart, shows micro lesions, typical of spike protein damage
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Postby ruffneck_12 » April 12th, 2023, 11:00 am

adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-data-waning-immunity-covid-vaccine/


Pushing under false pretenses,
Need to get the NDA nullified to see what deal was struck. IMG_20230406_155829.jpg
Bro you really linking Children's Health Defense? The website that thinks Vaccines cause Autism and 5G makes people sick?



Just take it with a grain of salt , dais all

The same way yall taking a vax that was manufactured by the company that got hit with the second largest fine in the medical sphere

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... minal-fine

The charges? Bribing doctors to prescribe this drug, and misreporting the side effects... (Bextra, Geodon, Zyvox, Lyrica)

SOUND FAMILIAR ?

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Posting about what you don't know or can't understand is sad.

Getting giggly about not knowing what you're posting about when it was discussed, explained, and refuted, in this same thread is very sad indeed.

-----------------
July 2020: Pfizer Phase 3 human trials begin.

November 2020: Pfizer Phase 3 human trials - last of the 41, 000 enrollees receive the mRNA vaccine second doses.

December 2020: Pfizer mRNA vaccine receive EUA.

May 2021: Waning effectiveness of mRNA vaccine at 6 months after inoculation was published by Pfizer, after tracking real-world vaccine effectiveness for six months. Pfizer's CEO announced the likelihood of a need for mRNA boosters and ongoing trials that included mRNA booster effectiveness at a press conference.

Image

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... %2C%202020.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-a ... %2C%202021.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... u-n1275311

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/pfizers ... onths.html



If a liar says he isn't lying, would you trust him?

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Postby adnj » April 13th, 2023, 10:01 am

ruffneck_12 wrote:
adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-data-waning-immunity-covid-vaccine/


Pushing under false pretenses,
Need to get the NDA nullified to see what deal was struck. IMG_20230406_155829.jpg
Bro you really linking Children's Health Defense? The website that thinks Vaccines cause Autism and 5G makes people sick?



Just take it with a grain of salt , dais all

The same way yall taking a vax that was manufactured by the company that got hit with the second largest fine in the medical sphere

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... minal-fine

The charges? Bribing doctors to prescribe this drug, and misreporting the side effects... (Bextra, Geodon, Zyvox, Lyrica)

SOUND FAMILIAR ?

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Posting about what you don't know or can't understand is sad.

Getting giggly about not knowing what you're posting about when it was discussed, explained, and refuted, in this same thread is very sad indeed.

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July 2020: Pfizer Phase 3 human trials begin.

November 2020: Pfizer Phase 3 human trials - last of the 41, 000 enrollees receive the mRNA vaccine second doses.

December 2020: Pfizer mRNA vaccine receive EUA.

May 2021: Waning effectiveness of mRNA vaccine at 6 months after inoculation was published by Pfizer, after tracking real-world vaccine effectiveness for six months. Pfizer's CEO announced the likelihood of a need for mRNA boosters and ongoing trials that included mRNA booster effectiveness at a press conference.

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https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... %2C%202020.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-a ... %2C%202021.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... u-n1275311

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/pfizers ... onths.html


If a liar says he isn't lying, would you trust him?


You're defending a liar, Ralphie.

It seems as if you really don't know what you're trying to troll.

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Group of physicians combats misinformation as unproven COVID-19 treatments continue to be prescribed
https://abcnews.go.com/US/group-physici ... d=83097330

Joe Rogan interview with Peter McCullough contains multiple false and unsubstantiated claims about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccines
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/ ... -vaccines/

Lawsuit: Doc Using Old Baylor Affiliation While Dishing COVID Vax Falsehoods
— Baylor Scott & White Health says Peter McCullough, MD, used former title during media interviews
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-re ... ives/93936

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers

Postby ruffneck_12 » April 13th, 2023, 4:06 pm

You know how easy it is to pay off big companies to push an agenda for you right?

Like that time sugary food manufacturers paid to have ads about fat being bad for you , not sugar

I can go on and on dawg, you honestly hadda start looking below the surface. And stop eating chain up.


If ur friends linked you a study that says it's healthy to jump off a cliff, would you do it to?

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

Postby sMASH » April 13th, 2023, 4:52 pm

adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-data-waning-immunity-covid-vaccine/


Pushing under false pretenses,
Need to get the NDA nullified to see what deal was struck. IMG_20230406_155829.jpg
Bro you really linking Children's Health Defense? The website that thinks Vaccines cause Autism and 5G makes people sick?



Just take it with a grain of salt , dais all

The same way yall taking a vax that was manufactured by the company that got hit with the second largest fine in the medical sphere

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... minal-fine

The charges? Bribing doctors to prescribe this drug, and misreporting the side effects... (Bextra, Geodon, Zyvox, Lyrica)

SOUND FAMILIAR ?



Posting about what you don't know or can't understand is sad.

Getting giggly about not knowing what you're posting about when it was discussed, explained, and refuted, in this same thread is very sad indeed.

-----------------
July 2020: Pfizer Phase 3 human trials begin.

November 2020: Pfizer Phase 3 human trials - last of the 41, 000 enrollees receive the mRNA vaccine second doses.

December 2020: Pfizer mRNA vaccine receive EUA.

May 2021: Waning effectiveness of mRNA vaccine at 6 months after inoculation was published by Pfizer, after tracking real-world vaccine effectiveness for six months. Pfizer's CEO announced the likelihood of a need for mRNA boosters and ongoing trials that included mRNA booster effectiveness at a press conference.

Image

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... %2C%202020.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-a ... %2C%202021.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... u-n1275311

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/pfizers ... onths.html


If a liar says he isn't lying, would you trust him?


You're defending a liar, Ralphie.

It seems as if you really don't know what you're trying to troll.

Image

Group of physicians combats misinformation as unproven COVID-19 treatments continue to be prescribed
https://abcnews.go.com/US/group-physici ... d=83097330

Joe Rogan interview with Peter McCullough contains multiple false and unsubstantiated claims about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccines
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/ ... -vaccines/

Lawsuit: Doc Using Old Baylor Affiliation While Dishing COVID Vax Falsehoods
— Baylor Scott & White Health says Peter McCullough, MD, used former title during media interviews
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-re ... ives/93936
"unsubstantiated" is the corporate talk for "we excluded that from our studies".


Allyuh really belive the fish monger that all his fish fresh everyday.

Some people born yesterday.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

Postby drchaos » April 14th, 2023, 2:39 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Covee, with out a test, is indistinguishable from the common cold.

It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.


Wow, you really need to get your facts straight before you spew such nonsense on the internet. Covid vaccines have slowed the spread of covid significantly, as multiple studies have shown. Covid has unfortunately caused a lot of suffering and death. And covid is not just a cold or flu, it is a serious disease that can have long-term effects on your health and well-being. You should be grateful that we have effective vaccines that can protect us and our loved ones from this pandemic, instead of spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories. Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and get vaccinated as soon as possible. Trust me, you won't regret it.



Does natural immunity exist?

Or once u get covid , you dead for sure a good percentage of the time?

Seems like you're the one spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories here bruv


I can clearly see that you really want to believe that natural immunity is better than covid vaccination and I wanted to share some facts with you. According to several studies, natural immunity from covid infection is not as reliable or long-lasting as vaccine-induced immunity. For example, a study published in The Lancet found that natural immunity reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by 88% over 10 months, while vaccine-induced immunity reduced it by 95%. Another study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that natural immunity alone was less than half as effective as natural immunity plus vaccination. Natural immunity can also fade within 90 days, while vaccine immunity has been shown to last longer. So, getting vaccinated is the best way to protect yourself and others from covid, even if you have already had it. I hope this helps you make an informed decision about your health. Stay safe!
That defies reality. No self respecting virologist will say that natural immunity is worse than manufactured immunity.
NONE!
Those studies are propaganda to sell vaxes, from taxes.


He is lying as usual ... Natural immunity does not "fade" as he stated.
Your antibodies will reduce over time but your memory cells to produce said antibodies increase significantly and stick around forever.

When they talk about natural immunity they only speak about antibody response
When they speak about artificially induced immunity they conveniently include memory B cells with the antibody response.

Its basically being intellectually dishonest.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

Postby adnj » April 14th, 2023, 7:54 pm

drchaos wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Covee, with out a test, is indistinguishable from the common cold.

It's a productively problem like other flu season viruses.
I don't know cause there is nothing to know in the real world.
U keep pushing Vax protagonists propaganda. Covee is over bro. It mutated down.


Wow, you really need to get your facts straight before you spew such nonsense on the internet. Covid vaccines have slowed the spread of covid significantly, as multiple studies have shown. Covid has unfortunately caused a lot of suffering and death. And covid is not just a cold or flu, it is a serious disease that can have long-term effects on your health and well-being. You should be grateful that we have effective vaccines that can protect us and our loved ones from this pandemic, instead of spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories. Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and get vaccinated as soon as possible. Trust me, you won't regret it.



Does natural immunity exist?

Or once u get covid , you dead for sure a good percentage of the time?

Seems like you're the one spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories here bruv


I can clearly see that you really want to believe that natural immunity is better than covid vaccination and I wanted to share some facts with you. According to several studies, natural immunity from covid infection is not as reliable or long-lasting as vaccine-induced immunity. For example, a study published in The Lancet found that natural immunity reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by 88% over 10 months, while vaccine-induced immunity reduced it by 95%. Another study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that natural immunity alone was less than half as effective as natural immunity plus vaccination. Natural immunity can also fade within 90 days, while vaccine immunity has been shown to last longer. So, getting vaccinated is the best way to protect yourself and others from covid, even if you have already had it. I hope this helps you make an informed decision about your health. Stay safe!
That defies reality. No self respecting virologist will say that natural immunity is worse than manufactured immunity.
NONE!
Those studies are propaganda to sell vaxes, from taxes.

He is lying as usual ... Natural immunity does not "fade" as he stated.
Your antibodies will reduce over time but your memory cells to produce said antibodies increase significantly and stick around forever.

When they talk about natural immunity they only speak about antibody response
When they speak about artificially induced immunity they conveniently include memory B cells with the antibody response.

Its basically being intellectually dishonest.


You must be a very smart person to know so much about B-cell immune response in COVID-19. I'm sure you have a lot of credentials and publications to back up your claims. Oh wait, you don't? You're just spreading misinformation about vaccines? That's not funny at all.

First of all, studies that compare immune responses between vaccinated and unvaccinated people are not published by liars. They are published by reputable scientists and peer-reviewed journals that follow rigorous standards of quality and ethics. These studies show that covid vaccines are safe and effective in preventing severe disease and death caused by SARS-CoV-2.

B-cell response is important, but it's not the only factor that determines protection from infection or re-infection. T-cell response, neutralizing antibodies, memory cells, and other aspects of the immune system also play a role.

Second, these studies do consider B-cell immune response in people who have been infected and in people who have been vaccinated. B-cells produce antibodies that bind to and neutralize the virus. B-cells also form memory cells that can quickly produce more antibodies if they encounter the virus again. Both natural infection and vaccination can induce B-cell immune response, but vaccination has several advantages over natural infection.

One advantage is that vaccination can induce a stronger and more consistent B-cell immune response than natural infection. This is because vaccines are designed to elicit a high level of antibodies against the most important part of the virus, the spike protein, which is responsible for attaching to and entering human cells. Natural infection, on the other hand, can vary in the amount and quality of antibodies produced depending on the viral load, the duration of infection, and the genetic diversity of the virus.

Another advantage is that vaccination can induce a more durable B-cell immune response than natural infection. This is because vaccines can stimulate the formation of long-lived plasma cells and memory B-cells that can persist for months or even years after vaccination. Natural infection, on the other hand, can result in a rapid decline of antibodies after recovery, especially in mild cases.

A third advantage is that vaccination can induce a more broad B-cell immune response than natural infection. This is because vaccines can protect against multiple variants of the virus that may have different mutations in the spike protein. Natural infection, on the other hand, can only provide protection against the specific variant that caused the infection, which may not be effective against new variants that emerge over time.

Therefore, vaccination is a much better way to achieve B-cell immune response and protection against COVID-19 than natural infection.

I can't say that I know where you are getting your opinions from but I hope that you stop listening to the people that pretend to to be informed medical doctors simply because they share you bias against COVID vaccines. They, and you, are not only ignorant but also irresponsible and dangerous.

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