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Will Rowley/Hinds SoE be effective in curbing Crime?

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby Chimera » April 12th, 2025, 6:21 pm

bluefete wrote:
pugboy wrote:so what about the rest who aren’t going to be charged ?
they gonna sue for wrongful detention according the pamela elder


How come nobody ever audit Ms. Elder for taking drug / terrorist / gangster money from her clients? Ent dat is supposed to be a crime?

Nobody ever do "source of funds" from her clients and then look to seize that same money she get?


lol source of funds for accepting client fees?

seize money that's being paid to a lawyer?

i doubt we have that sort of "illegal proceeds from criminal activity" kind of laws here

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby pugboy » April 12th, 2025, 8:31 pm

well technically the gangster supposed to say where the money came from, the onus is not on the lawyer
and bir can audit and make him show what business or work he did/does to earn that kind of money
furthermore he would have to show proper structure/taxes for that quantum of money(ie millions)
that is where the clamp can happen and then he should be under scrutiny for the rest of of his drug selling life
of course this is in a framework of a proper legal system

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bluefete wrote:
pugboy wrote:so what about the rest who aren’t going to be charged ?
they gonna sue for wrongful detention according the pamela elder


How come nobody ever audit Ms. Elder for taking drug / terrorist / gangster money from her clients? Ent dat is supposed to be a crime?

Nobody ever do "source of funds" from her clients and then look to seize that same money she get?


lol source of funds for accepting client fees?

seize money that's being paid to a lawyer?

i doubt we have that sort of "illegal proceeds from criminal activity" kind of laws here

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby alfa » April 12th, 2025, 8:39 pm

Also if a lawyer is defending these people, basically saying that they're innocent then to maintain consistence in the lawyer's eye the money has to be clean.
Can't arrest her for taking dirty money when her whole case is basically, Dem is good boys who never do nutten

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby pugboy » April 12th, 2025, 9:11 pm

correk
it is not the lawyer job to audit the customers
the most she could do is report to fiu

alfa wrote:Also if a lawyer is defending these people, basically saying that they're innocent then to maintain consistence in the lawyer's eye the money has to be clean.
Can't arrest her for taking dirty money when her whole case is basically, Dem is good boys who never do nutten

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby The_Honourable » April 13th, 2025, 1:49 pm

SoE over, but crime crisis persists

The state of emergency (SoE) ends today. The SoE was declared in the face of 625 murders, the bloodiest year in Trinidad and Tobago’s history.

The Government declared the SoE on December 30, 2024, which was extended by Parliament on January 13, 2025, for an additional three months. At that time, Prime Minister Stuart Young was serving as the acting Attorney General and during a news conference, he said the decision to implement the SoE was aimed at targeting violent criminal activity, particularly involving illegal firearms, ammunition and explosives.

At the time, several business chambers voiced support for it, viewing it as a necessary measure to address the country’s crime crisis.

Three and a half months later, some chamber heads have expressed their disappointment, saying it had very little impact, with few successes, and ultimately deemed the SoE a failure for the business community.

Here’s what chamber heads had to say to Sunday Express Business:

Fyzabad Chamber of Commerce

President of the Fyzabad Chamber of Commerce Angie Jairam said the SoE did not have the effect expected in communities.

“It failed to serve its intended purpose and had little to no meaningful impact throughout the country, as crime and criminality continued. It gave us no comfort of safety and it certainly did not positively impact the business sector,” she said in a WhatsApp exchange with the Sunday Express.

She said the business community continued to spend on security measures and took actions to protect themselves by closing early and spending on security apparatus.

“We continued to take measures by sacrificing key business opening hours and early evenings into nightfall, when members of the public can utilise those periods to shop without hassle after a full day’s work. Many avoided the nightlife and late business experience,” she said.

Jairam said despite the SoE, homicide and armed robbery rates continued to rise, with kidnappings still happening.

“In our neighbouring community of Siparia, we heard one of the most gruesome crimes reported, where a woman’s head was found in a cooler. The killings, home invasions, and other criminal activities occurred throughout this entire period. There was no noticeable increase in police or military presence as we expected. No visible community policing and even their presence, despite more vehicles added to their fleet. Was it adequate?” Jairam questioned.

Jairam was referencing the murder of a Siparia grandmother, Joanne Estick, who was found beheaded in her community in March.

Stressing that the sense of security that the SoE was supposed to provide was not present, Jairam said:

“I believe much more could have been done. For example, setting up police booths in designated hotspots, conducting more frequent roadblocks, and having officers routinely patrol main streets, especially near business areas, all of which would have made a difference. Additionally, more attention should have been given to securing our borders against illegal immigration, which continues to be a serious concern.”

As the SoE comes to an end, she questioned the availability of hard data on known criminals and their whereabouts, and whether there were an action plan to get them off the streets.

“What’s the plan of action? Don’t tell us that after a little over three months, all these resources boil down to zero, and we have to find another way to deal with crime. We are hopeful that some sort of security intelligence will come out of this period,” Jairam said.

Chaguanas Chamber of Commerce

President of the Chaguanas Chamber of Commerce Baldath Maharaj recognised the statistical reduction in certain criminal activities during the SoE but stressed that reduction from a crisis point does not reflect meaningful progress.

“The reality is that the public continues to live in fear, and that lingering sense of insecurity continues to impact the way businesses operate, from shortened opening hours to added private security expenses,” Maharaj said.

He added that the chamber will continue its call for a shift away from broadstroke enforcement tactics such as roadblocks at odd hours, and advocate for more targeted, intelligence-led policing that dismantles criminal networks and prevents recurrence.

Maharaj noted the chamber is also addressing extortion, which continues to affect many small to medium enterprises (SMEs):

“The Chaguanas Chamber has been a strong advocate for tackling the long-standing issue of extortion, which has plagued many SMEs in Central Trinidad. We have held several meetings with senior officials throughout the Ministry of National Security, offering our insight and support for sustainable, intelligence-driven crime-fighting initiatives. The business community remains committed to being part of the solution,” he said.

Maharaj stressed that aside from the SoE, it is crucial for authorities to set clear, measurable crime reduction targets and to report on them publicly.

“Transparency and accountability are essential to rebuilding public trust and investor confidence. The end of the SoE must not be seen as the end of enforcement but rather the beginning of a smarter, more coordinated and community-focused approach to crime,” he said.

Couva/Point Lisas Chamber of Commerce

President of the Couva/Point Lisas Chamber of Commerce Deoraj Mahase said feedback from some areas in his community has been positive, but it is anticipated that the measures will be improved and continued after the SoE.

“While there appears to be more use of technology and intelligence in investigations, much more implementation of technology is needed within the protective services. Joint patrols with the T&T Defence Force throughout T&T, not just in certain areas and a more visible presence of the protective services are needed,” Mahase said.

The Greater San Fernando Area Chamber of Commerce

President of the Greater San Fernando Area Chamber of Commerce Kiran Singh believes there were “varying successes” during the SoE.

“We witnessed a drastic reduction in the murder rate, a statistic that we normally use to determine the intensity of criminality in this country. Reports of serious crimes have also fallen. However, there is a troubling element—youth involvement in crime continues, apparently spurred by the gang development that has not been stamped out,” Singh said.

He added that while crime remains relatively low in San Fernando, joint police and army patrols would have contributed to the reduction in serious crime.

“We would advocate for these patrols to continue indefinitely even after regular business hours, weekends and public holidays to maintain the safety of patrons and businesses,” he said.

Singh said the community is promoting Downtown San Fernando to become a hub of commercial activity beyond regular business hours and on Sundays. “The consistent presence of the armed forces will ensure that we remain safe in the city. The SoE gave the police and the Defence Force more power to arrest perpetrators of crime. It is hoped that we do not see a spike in criminality after the SoE ends,” he said.

https://trinidadexpress.com/business/lo ... 07b99.html

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby hover11 » April 13th, 2025, 2:54 pm

You forget the last part ....they getting off and will sue the state. The SOE was PNM last ditch effort to put a dent in crime.
redmanjp wrote:SOE ends Sunday, 14 detainees to be charged. hope they got enough evidence otherwise they getting off

https://newsday.co.tt/2025/04/11/14-detainees-to-be-charged-before-soe-ends/

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby paid_influencer » April 13th, 2025, 3:53 pm

Singh said the community is promoting Downtown San Fernando to become a hub of commercial activity beyond regular business hours and on Sundays.


this guy serious? downtown san fernando is dead and also smells of piss

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby death365 » April 14th, 2025, 6:31 am

When is d last time yuh went in town.

The stinkness start at the betham and continues all thru out town. Now a days not even d coffee roasting in Hong wing can help it.

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Singh said the community is promoting Downtown San Fernando to become a hub of commercial activity beyond regular business hours and on Sundays.


this guy serious? downtown san fernando is dead and also smells of piss

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby hover11 » April 14th, 2025, 7:12 am

39 soon to be millionaires
FB_IMG_1744629117972.jpg

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby pugboy » April 14th, 2025, 8:05 am

nah is not millions but close to million i think they got last time
but i guess it comes up to millions since we have to pay their lawyer fees

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby paid_influencer » April 14th, 2025, 8:07 am

hover11 wrote:39 soon to be millionairesFB_IMG_1744629117972.jpg


all in the interest of protecting 7 from 6

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby pugboy » April 14th, 2025, 8:58 am

gotta protect the votes which coming from both of them
all gang votes count

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hover11 wrote:39 soon to be millionairesFB_IMG_1744629117972.jpg


all in the interest of protecting 7 from 6

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby zoom rader » April 14th, 2025, 11:14 am

So released to vote PNM

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby eliteauto » April 14th, 2025, 11:27 am

Guy in the back is wearing an ankle bracelet?

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby pugboy » April 14th, 2025, 12:15 pm

looks so
is the tracking dept actually functioning and tracking these bailed folks?

eliteauto wrote:Guy in the back is wearing an ankle bracelet?

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby redmanjp » April 15th, 2025, 8:10 am

Bail conditions in addition to wearing ankle tracker should include no contact with other gang members to plan or order killings.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby pugboy » April 15th, 2025, 8:58 am

i suspect ttps gps tracking dept operating just like the nationwide cctv network

but gps trackers are indeed a great deterrent
them gangsters certainly won’t want somebody wearing one in their crew

redmanjp wrote:Bail conditions in addition to wearing ankle tracker should include no contact with other gang members to plan or order killings.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby redmanjp » April 15th, 2025, 5:38 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
hover11 wrote:39 soon to be millionairesFB_IMG_1744629117972.jpg


all in the interest of protecting 7 from 6



hmm i thought 6 was afraid of 7

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby hover11 » April 15th, 2025, 5:43 pm

NO BAIL FOR TYSON

ALLEGED SIXX Gang leader Calvin Lee, also called Tyson, has been remanded to prison after he was denied bail on April 15.

Lee, of Clifton Towers, St Paul Street, Port of Spain, appeared before Master Kimitria Gray, charged with being the leader of a gang.

On January 17, Lee was detained under a ministerial preventative detention order during the recently ended state of emergency.

In September 2024, a similar charge against him had been dismissed by a High Court master for “want of prosecution.”

Lee was one of 50 people detained under ministerial orders.

https://newsday.co.tt/2025/04/15/no-bai ... der-tyson/

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby pugboy » April 15th, 2025, 5:44 pm

no bail at this point in time
but he will get bail when he applies to a judge in chambers and puts forward a proper application

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby hover11 » April 15th, 2025, 5:47 pm

Like is only one gang giving trouble in trinidad where the other gang leader based in London who has strong links to a certain PNM MP.....LEONCE business partner

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby timelapse » April 22nd, 2025, 8:59 am

Like everything in this God forsaken hellhole, we let it reach where it had to go. Theses gang pests were created by a culture of people that are too lazy to actually get off their arses to do something

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby zoom rader » April 22nd, 2025, 1:36 pm

Bring back SoE.

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