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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » June 18th, 2025, 3:53 pm

sMASH wrote:OK, what about this one ?
Shirley , this can pull trump een.FB_IMG_1750275802870.jpg


Yea I'm sure this will go down well with Saudi Arabia, Iraq, UAE and Kuwait!!

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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High oil prices benefit the sellers

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » June 18th, 2025, 4:17 pm

Slaughter of the indigenous by the European colonists.
A tale as old as the Iran's nuclear fusion bomb
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 18th, 2025, 5:30 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Secret weapons development is just that secret.

All those links have no explanation by Iran as to why they enriched uranium beyond civilian use. There is only use for such highly enriched uranium. Your NBC link includes a statement from their foreign minister saying they will never stop enriching uranium.

Two things can be right simultaneously .....the nine countries with nuclear weapons are hypocritical when it comes to possession. Well it's probably less than nine since Russia and China assisted some of the remaining 7 in getting and also helped some who reached pretty far and turned back.

But it also can be right that nobody should have any and since you can't take away from the nine we ensure it remains at just that number.

yeah they also said "He said Iran would commit to never making nuclear weapons, getting rid of its stockpiles of highly enriched uranium which can be weaponized, agree to enrich uranium only to the lower levels needed for civilian use, and allow international inspectors to supervise the process, in exchange for the immediate lifting of all economic sanctions on Iran."

And is it that only some countries can have secret weapons development and not others?


Why don't the world just open up nuclear weapons to every regime that wants it??
Clearly that's the only solution you will find palatable

Actually quite the opposite - I was dismayed to see the numbers in that SIPRI report
https://www.sipri.org/media/press-relea ... ok-out-now

Good thing we have the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and the International Atomic Energy Agency inspections and reports - if only states all participated fully. Same with the UN, ICC and ICJ.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » June 18th, 2025, 5:37 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Secret weapons development is just that secret.

All those links have no explanation by Iran as to why they enriched uranium beyond civilian use. There is only use for such highly enriched uranium. Your NBC link includes a statement from their foreign minister saying they will never stop enriching uranium.

Two things can be right simultaneously .....the nine countries with nuclear weapons are hypocritical when it comes to possession. Well it's probably less than nine since Russia and China assisted some of the remaining 7 in getting and also helped some who reached pretty far and turned back.

But it also can be right that nobody should have any and since you can't take away from the nine we ensure it remains at just that number.

yeah they also said "He said Iran would commit to never making nuclear weapons, getting rid of its stockpiles of highly enriched uranium which can be weaponized, agree to enrich uranium only to the lower levels needed for civilian use, and allow international inspectors to supervise the process, in exchange for the immediate lifting of all economic sanctions on Iran."

And is it that only some countries can have secret weapons development and not others?


Why don't the world just open up nuclear weapons to every regime that wants it??
Clearly that's the only solution you will find palatable

Actually quite the opposite - I was dismayed to see the numbers in that SIPRI report
https://www.sipri.org/media/press-relea ... ok-out-now

Good thing we have the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and the International Atomic Energy Agency inspections and reports - if only states all participated fully. Same with the UN, ICC and ICJ.
I know right. Like South Africa who knowingly didn't arrest Bashir. Really irks when they use these agencies as geopolitical tools.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » June 18th, 2025, 5:37 pm

sMASH wrote:Slaughter of the indigenous by the European colonists.
A tale as old as the Iran's nuclear fusion bomb FB_IMG_1750277605579.jpg

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I believe the story.



Those are some rookie numbers there

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 18th, 2025, 5:50 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Secret weapons development is just that secret.

All those links have no explanation by Iran as to why they enriched uranium beyond civilian use. There is only use for such highly enriched uranium. Your NBC link includes a statement from their foreign minister saying they will never stop enriching uranium.

Two things can be right simultaneously .....the nine countries with nuclear weapons are hypocritical when it comes to possession. Well it's probably less than nine since Russia and China assisted some of the remaining 7 in getting and also helped some who reached pretty far and turned back.

But it also can be right that nobody should have any and since you can't take away from the nine we ensure it remains at just that number.

yeah they also said "He said Iran would commit to never making nuclear weapons, getting rid of its stockpiles of highly enriched uranium which can be weaponized, agree to enrich uranium only to the lower levels needed for civilian use, and allow international inspectors to supervise the process, in exchange for the immediate lifting of all economic sanctions on Iran."

And is it that only some countries can have secret weapons development and not others?


Why don't the world just open up nuclear weapons to every regime that wants it??
Clearly that's the only solution you will find palatable

Actually quite the opposite - I was dismayed to see the numbers in that SIPRI report
https://www.sipri.org/media/press-relea ... ok-out-now

Good thing we have the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and the International Atomic Energy Agency inspections and reports - if only states all participated fully. Same with the UN, ICC and ICJ.
I know right. Like South Africa who knowingly didn't arrest Bashir. Really irks when they use these agencies as geopolitical tools.

Yup - especially the ones that do it over and over and over again

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby pugboy » June 18th, 2025, 6:05 pm

need to extend Bas famous statement:
global politics has a morality of its own

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » June 18th, 2025, 7:16 pm

Does Trump know it's unfair for Iran to not get nuclear weapons?

So what if the Islamic Republic is a dictatorial deathcult regime that repeatedly has as a mantra "Death to America, Death to Israel"

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » June 18th, 2025, 7:18 pm

Anyhows where the man who keep posting suppositions all day in here?

Here's a pic for you to ruminate on
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby alfa » June 18th, 2025, 7:44 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Does Trump know it's unfair for Iran to not get nuclear weapons?

So what if the Islamic Republic is a dictatorial deathcult regime that repeatedly has as a mantra "Death to America, Death to Israel"

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By that logic Cuba would have been justified in acquiring a nuclear weapon decades ago if it was possible because USA while not making empty threats of death to Castro, actually attempted several times

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby PariaMan » June 18th, 2025, 8:00 pm

The world is full of examples of countries without deadly weapons being attacked, and countries with not being attacked

Israel attacking Iran just reinforces this

Urkraine and Russia also demontrates this

North Korea as well

What happened to Iraq and Libya on the flip side

USA allowing these things to happen actually encouraging the proliferation of NUCLEAR weapons

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 18th, 2025, 9:56 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Does Trump know it's unfair for Iran to not get nuclear weapons?

So what if the Islamic Republic is a dictatorial deathcult regime that repeatedly has as a mantra "Death to America, Death to Israel"

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What’s the reason Iran don’t say that to Russia or China?

And what do you think is fair?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby pugboy » June 18th, 2025, 10:00 pm

they can’t ruffle china in such manner because usa economy relies on china
plus china owns a lot of usa debt

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 18th, 2025, 11:03 pm

pugboy wrote:they can’t ruffle china in such manner because usa economy relies on china
plus china owns a lot of usa debt

No I asked why Iran doesnt say death to Russia or death to China?
Or even death to Australia?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » June 18th, 2025, 11:16 pm

Yes, we want a country that sponsors terrorists to have a nuke.


That makes perfect sense.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Gladiator » June 18th, 2025, 11:24 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Does Trump know it's unfair for Iran to not get nuclear weapons?

So what if the Islamic Republic is a dictatorial deathcult regime that repeatedly has as a mantra "Death to America, Death to Israel"

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What’s the reason Iran don’t say that to Russia or China?

And what do you think is fair?


Its obvious that Israel's main source of funding and military backing is the USA. When you hear the US politicians speak, it is unclear if they are Americans or Israeli. I looked at a VICE doc and they explained that 90% of the IDF comprises "American Jews". It is expected that whoever Israel attacks knows this as well.

Russia and China aren't aggressors on a global level. As much as the USA is our big brother in the West, they are on the wrong side of this war. What Israel is doing is a repeat of what was done to them in Nazi Germany and Europe prior to WW2. Its a shame that they learnt nothing and instead choose to repeat the atrocities on another group of people.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Gladiator » June 18th, 2025, 11:29 pm

matr1x wrote:Yes, we want a country that sponsors terrorists to have a nuke.


That makes perfect sense.


The problem neo is that all the "intelligence" and information comes from the Israeli Mossad. They are known for spreading propaganda, using lies to force the US into large scale wars, spying and using their intelligence to blackmail politicians and set up false flags like 911.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 19th, 2025, 12:15 am

A country that supports terrorists that actually has nukes:

Israel reportedly encouraged the growth of Mujama al‑Islamiya, the precursor to Hamas, to counter the secular PLO.
During the 1970s, Israel began providing support to Ahmed Yassin, a Muslim Brotherhood leader in the Gaza Strip.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas
How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas - https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123275572295011847

Israeli Mossad agents recruited operatives from the Sunni terrorist group Jundallah
https://www.npr.org/2012/01/13/14517563 ... e-american

UNDOF reported that Israel supported members of Jabhat al-Nusra, an Al-Qaeda affiliate
https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-israel ... an-border/
https://sana.sy/en/?p=13077
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-chief ... an-rebels/

2012 - Israeli Mossad provided training, weapons, and support to MEK (People's Mujahedin of Iran)
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-offici ... cientists/
https://www.haaretz.com/2012-02-09/ty-a ... facf500000
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/isra ... flna241673

2023 - "For years Netanyahu propped up Hamas"
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/

2025 - Netanyahu arms "clans in Gaza"
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu authorized weapons transfers to a criminal gang in Gaza that is likened to the ISIS terrorist group
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-ham ... activated/

Most of these were covert.

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Which countries fit the definition?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 19th, 2025, 2:50 am

Israel has been able to take out specific key military personnel and scientists inside Iran in a few days. Some with almost surgical accuracy. They say they have the ability to assassinate the Ayatollah any time they like. The Mossad has covertly infiltrated key locations in Iran. Iran is vast. Yet with all that military precision and advanced capability cannot get back 53 hostages from inside a flattened Gaza after 620 days.
Gaza is just a 25 mile stretch of land.
Is it that they can’t? Or don’t want to?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby bluefete » June 19th, 2025, 2:58 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Israel has been able to take out specific key military personnel and scientists inside Iran in a few days. Some with almost surgical accuracy. They say they have the ability to assassinate the Ayatollah any time they like. The Mossad has covertly infiltrated key locations in Iran. Iran is vast. Yet with all that military precision and advanced capability cannot get back 53 hostages from inside a flattened Gaza after 620 days.
Gaza is just a 25 mile stretch of land.
Is it that they can’t? Or don’t want to?


The plan has always been to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza. I will never believe that Israel did not know what Hamas was planning in October 2023.

They can macco all the way into Iran but did not know what was being planned in their own backyard. Yeah, right.

Trump said that Gaza will be converted into luxury hotels and the Palestinians will be driven out!

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » June 19th, 2025, 5:24 am

Gladiator wrote:
matr1x wrote:Yes, we want a country that sponsors terrorists to have a nuke.


That makes perfect sense.


The problem neo is that all the "intelligence" and information comes from the Israeli Mossad. They are known for spreading propaganda, using lies to force the US into large scale wars, spying and using their intelligence to blackmail politicians and set up false flags like 911.



BS. So we are imagining acts of terror and hate by Islamic groups and cultures?

This attempt to gaslight people is insane. We in Trinidad have witnessed what an armed Islamic force can do. No moussad there. Islamic militants enact horrors wherever they are.

What's even creepier is the penchant for sexual violence. Honor killings and maiming. Pakistani rape gangs. October 7th acts of murder and rape by hamas and Palestinians.

The shameless nature of them celebrating and the moment people fight back, they claim to be victims. The Palestinians were celebrating 911 so your lie about it being a false flag rings hollow.

Its the lies at the end of the day makes the entire thing crazy. No, its not the moussad or some retarded conspiracy. Its a faith of violence that acts in bad faith and bad state sponsored actors making a mess.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » June 19th, 2025, 5:25 am

bluefete wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Israel has been able to take out specific key military personnel and scientists inside Iran in a few days. Some with almost surgical accuracy. They say they have the ability to assassinate the Ayatollah any time they like. The Mossad has covertly infiltrated key locations in Iran. Iran is vast. Yet with all that military precision and advanced capability cannot get back 53 hostages from inside a flattened Gaza after 620 days.
Gaza is just a 25 mile stretch of land.
Is it that they can’t? Or don’t want to?


The plan has always been to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza. I will never believe that Israel did not know what Hamas was planning in October 2023.

They can macco all the way into Iran but did not know what was being planned in their own backyard. Yeah, right.

Trump said that Gaza will be converted into luxury hotels and the Palestinians will be driven out!



I thought according to you all, October 7th was a false flag. Man, you morons can't even keep your lies straight

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » June 19th, 2025, 5:28 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Israel has been able to take out specific key military personnel and scientists inside Iran in a few days. Some with almost surgical accuracy. They say they have the ability to assassinate the Ayatollah any time they like. The Mossad has covertly infiltrated key locations in Iran. Iran is vast. Yet with all that military precision and advanced capability cannot get back 53 hostages from inside a flattened Gaza after 620 days.
Gaza is just a 25 mile stretch of land.
Is it that they can’t? Or don’t want to?



Believe it or not, Israel is trying to minimize civilians being a casualty. Its hamas putting people in danger. That and idiots not knowing how to follow directions

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Isreal using civilians as human sheilds... 8 million human sheilds
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Israelis going back home after hiking in the middle east for 3/4 century
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Israel has terrorist command centers under civilian structures.
Lol

Iran also beheaded 40 babies and put them in ovens .
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