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So who won the pandemic debate?

Poll ended at August 3rd, 2023, 3:48 pm

Antivaxxers - Ah still alive! babylon cyah kill me!
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43%
Covidians - Small pin does chook hard but it save the world.
6
43%
Me eh care - Allyuh keep arguing nah man, ah wining on dis bumper right here.
2
14%
 
Total votes: 14

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 22nd, 2023, 12:52 am

They tested it on 4 mice fir two weeks to get that results. It was 20 x more likely to work than with other 4 mice

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Postby sMASH » January 22nd, 2023, 12:54 am

Any who,

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OD0na_NZaLM ... IECMiOmarE

Excess deaths wayyyy up in the age range 5hst would not be severely affected by lack of care during the pandemic, like cancer patients.



Allyuh gene therapy wukkin... The pay slips starting to show up.

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2023, 1:06 am

New WHO-led analysis shows that hybrid immunity provides higher protection, demonstrating the critical importance of vaccination even after people have had COVID-19.

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Background
The global surge in the omicron (B.1.1.529) variant has resulted in many individuals with hybrid immunity (immunity developed through a combination of SARS-CoV-2 infection and vaccination). We aimed to systematically review the magnitude and duration of the protective effectiveness of previous SARS-CoV-2 infection and hybrid immunity against infection and severe disease caused by the omicron variant.

Interpretation
All estimates of protection waned within months against reinfection but remained high and sustained for hospital admission or severe disease. Individuals with hybrid immunity had the highest magnitude and durability of protection, and as a result might be able to extend the period before booster vaccinations are needed compared to individuals who have never been infected.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... 73-3099(22)00801-5/fulltext

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby drchaos » January 22nd, 2023, 9:16 am

adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:
pugboy wrote:whats the latest with the swollen testicles caused by the jab ?
heard some padnas concerned as they looking to get booster in the mall this weekend


Encourage them to keep boosting ... We need dotish people out of the gene/reproductive pool.


A study coming out of the Yale School of Public Health finds that annual or bi-annual COVID-19 booster shots will likely have a significant impact in reducing endemic COVID-19 infections.

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Abstract
One of the most consequential unknowns of the COVID-19 pandemic is the frequency at which vaccine boosting provides sufficient protection from infection. We quantified the statistical likelihood of breakthrough infections over time following different boosting schedules with messenger RNA (mRNA)-1273 (Moderna) and BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech). We integrated anti-Spike IgG antibody optical densities with profiles of the waning of antibodies and corresponding probabilities of infection associated with coronavirus endemic transmission. Projecting antibody levels over time given boosting every 6 months, 1, 1.5, 2, or 3 years yielded respective probabilities of fending off infection over a 6-year span of >93%, 75%, 55%, 40%, and 24% (mRNA-1273) and >89%, 69%, 49%, 36%, and 23% (BNT162b2). Delaying the administration of updated boosters has bleak repercussions. It increases the probability of individual infection by SARS-CoV-2, and correspondingly, ongoing disease spread, prevalence, morbidity, hospitalization, and mortality. Instituting regular, population-wide booster vaccination updated to predominant variants has the potential to substantially forestall—and with global, widespread uptake, eliminate—COVID-19.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.28461



"bi-annual COVID-19 booster shots will likely have a significant impact in reducing endemic COVID-19 infections."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
This is the equivalent of a large scientific study telling you water is dry ... Total BS in reality but the religious science bros are like "but the science says so ... So it must be true". :lol:

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Postby paid_influencer » January 22nd, 2023, 9:53 am

pfizer and moderna charging $110 US+ a shot. hope allyuh true believers with biannual shots ready to pay

https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 022-10-20/

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2023, 9:56 am

paid_influencer wrote:pfizer and moderna charging $110 US+ a shot. hope allyuh true believers with biannual shots ready to pay

https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 022-10-20/
Sinopharm is still free. The US citizens will be just fine.

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Postby paid_influencer » January 22nd, 2023, 10:14 am

last lap for freeeness

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Postby aaron17 » January 22nd, 2023, 10:46 am

paid_influencer wrote:last lap for freeeness
Were we ever free to begin with?

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Postby hover11 » January 22nd, 2023, 11:15 am

aaron17 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:last lap for freeeness
Were we ever free to begin with?
Last time I checked we recieved those under a non disclosure agreement so SINOPHARM was not free it was probably even more than Pfizer we would never know

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2023, 8:16 pm

hover11 wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:last lap for freeeness
Were we ever free to begin with?
Last time I checked we recieved those under a non disclosure agreement so SINOPHARM was not free it was probably even more than Pfizer we would never know
And yet, you "indirectly paid" for all of that Sinopharm.

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Postby sMASH » January 22nd, 2023, 8:46 pm

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6SAh0bJN6hs ... IECMiOmarE


Well well well, deep dove into the stats, REALLLL world performance, and vaccinated mortality was higher than unvaxed mortality.

And just as I was saying, the classification of deaths soon after vaxing, as 'unvaxed' deaths, IS a misclassification.

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Postby hover11 » January 22nd, 2023, 9:23 pm

adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:last lap for freeeness
Were we ever free to begin with?
Last time I checked we recieved those under a non disclosure agreement so SINOPHARM was not free it was probably even more than Pfizer we would never know
And yet, you "indirectly paid" for all of that Sinopharm.
First you said it's free now you are saying it was paid indirectly with our taxes....make up your mind bro

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2023, 9:25 pm

hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:last lap for freeeness
Were we ever free to begin with?
Last time I checked we recieved those under a non disclosure agreement so SINOPHARM was not free it was probably even more than Pfizer we would never know
And yet, you "indirectly paid" for all of that Sinopharm.
First you said it's free now you are saying it was paid indirectly with our taxes....make up your mind bro
Your taxes. Not mine. I have a different setup.

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2023, 9:27 pm

sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=6SAh0bJN6hs&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


Well well well, deep dove into the stats, REALLLL world performance, and vaccinated mortality was higher than unvaxed mortality.

And just as I was saying, the classification of deaths soon after vaxing, as 'unvaxed' deaths, IS a misclassification.
Your stats are wrong. YouTube is saying something that you don't understand.

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Postby sMASH » January 22nd, 2023, 9:39 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=6SAh0bJN6hs&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


Well well well, deep dove into the stats, REALLLL world performance, and vaccinated mortality was higher than unvaxed mortality.

And just as I was saying, the classification of deaths soon after vaxing, as 'unvaxed' deaths, IS a misclassification.
Your stats are wrong. YouTube is saying something that you don't understand.
Take ur Jab to reduce transmission.
Lol,
Do ur part to stop the spread.
Wear a double cloth mask with a exhalation valve.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2023, 11:04 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=6SAh0bJN6hs&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


Well well well, deep dove into the stats, REALLLL world performance, and vaccinated mortality was higher than unvaxed mortality.

And just as I was saying, the classification of deaths soon after vaxing, as 'unvaxed' deaths, IS a misclassification.
Your stats are wrong. YouTube is saying something that you don't understand.
Take ur Jab to reduce transmission.
Lol,
Do ur part to stop the spread.
Wear a double cloth mask with a exhalation valve.
You're just jealous that my breath is minty fresh.

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Postby redmanjp » January 22nd, 2023, 11:13 pm

sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=6SAh0bJN6hs&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


Well well well, deep dove into the stats, REALLLL world performance, and vaccinated mortality was higher than unvaxed mortality.

And just as I was saying, the classification of deaths soon after vaxing, as 'unvaxed' deaths, IS a misclassification.


vax mortality was higher before accounting for age- the most high risk group would be the most vaxxed- when they then accounted for age- i.e. comparing vax to unvax of the same age group unvaxxed was higher.

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2023, 11:24 pm

redmanjp wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=6SAh0bJN6hs&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


Well well well, deep dove into the stats, REALLLL world performance, and vaccinated mortality was higher than unvaxed mortality.

And just as I was saying, the classification of deaths soon after vaxing, as 'unvaxed' deaths, IS a misclassification.

vax mortality was higher before accounting for age- the most high risk group would be the most vaxxed- when they then accounted for age- i.e. comparing vax to unvax of the same age group unvaxxed was higher.
There was also a retrospective study in Scotland last year that indicated a reduced COVID mortality rate seen amongst the unvaccinated population was very likely due to asymptomatic and ignored infections from the population that was most concerned with losing pay due to isolation.

COVID is still killing unvaccinated people at about 8× the vaccinsted rate.

If your junk is tiny now, you really can't afford to risk it shriveling up even smaller because of a COVID vax. Vaccine hesitancy is just someone trying to keep what little bit God gave them from disappearing.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 23rd, 2023, 7:25 am

adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=6SAh0bJN6hs&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


Well well well, deep dove into the stats, REALLLL world performance, and vaccinated mortality was higher than unvaxed mortality.

And just as I was saying, the classification of deaths soon after vaxing, as 'unvaxed' deaths, IS a misclassification.

vax mortality was higher before accounting for age- the most high risk group would be the most vaxxed- when they then accounted for age- i.e. comparing vax to unvax of the same age group unvaxxed was higher.
There was also a retrospective study in Scotland last year that indicated a reduced COVID mortality rate seen amongst the unvaccinated population was very likely due to asymptomatic and ignored infections from the population that was most concerned with losing pay due to isolation.

COVID is still killing unvaccinated people at about 8× the vaccinsted rate.

If your junk is tiny now, you really can't afford to risk it shriveling up even smaller because of a COVID vax. Vaccine hesitancy is just someone trying to keep what little bit God gave them from disappearing.


Imagine the figures if they separate the deaths FROM covid and merely with covid.
Leg to stand up on might disappear.


Not for those who died thinking it was safe for them, but weren't afforded the true data to make an honest decision.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 23rd, 2023, 8:52 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=6SAh0bJN6hs&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


Well well well, deep dove into the stats, REALLLL world performance, and vaccinated mortality was higher than unvaxed mortality.

And just as I was saying, the classification of deaths soon after vaxing, as 'unvaxed' deaths, IS a misclassification.

vax mortality was higher before accounting for age- the most high risk group would be the most vaxxed- when they then accounted for age- i.e. comparing vax to unvax of the same age group unvaxxed was higher.
There was also a retrospective study in Scotland last year that indicated a reduced COVID mortality rate seen amongst the unvaccinated population was very likely due to asymptomatic and ignored infections from the population that was most concerned with losing pay due to isolation.

COVID is still killing unvaccinated people at about 8× the vaccinsted rate.

If your junk is tiny now, you really can't afford to risk it shriveling up even smaller because of a COVID vax. Vaccine hesitancy is just someone trying to keep what little bit God gave them from disappearing.


Imagine the figures if they separate the deaths FROM covid and merely with covid.
Leg to stand up on might disappear.


Not for those who died thinking it was safe for them, but weren't afforded the true data to make an honest decision.


With/from... that all you got?

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Postby adnj » January 23rd, 2023, 7:16 pm

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Under FDA’s proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.

https://time.com/6249479/fda-proposes-a ... vid-shots/

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Postby sMASH » January 23rd, 2023, 7:54 pm

adnj wrote:Image

Under FDA’s proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.

https://time.com/6249479/fda-proposes-a ... vid-shots/
Sounds like the flu.. Ready to admit it mutate down to a flu season virus?


Pretty sure u laff at when I posted that previously.




Take ur Vax, that only lasts 4 months. That's al u hsve.

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Postby adnj » January 23rd, 2023, 8:33 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
Under FDA’s proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.

https://time.com/6249479/fda-proposes-a ... vid-shots/
Sounds like the flu.. Ready to admit it mutate down to a flu season virus?


Pretty sure u laff at when I posted that previously.




Take ur Vax, that only lasts 4 months. That's al u hsve.


What's a cis?

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Postby sMASH » January 23rd, 2023, 9:20 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
Under FDA’s proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.

https://time.com/6249479/fda-proposes-a ... vid-shots/
Sounds like the flu.. Ready to admit it mutate down to a flu season virus?


Pretty sure u laff at when I posted that previously.




Take ur Vax, that only lasts 4 months. That's al u hsve.


What's a cis?
Some sort of gender thing with these young peolle.

What I typed was a typo... Suposed to be cis

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Postby adnj » January 23rd, 2023, 11:33 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
Under FDA’s proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.

https://time.com/6249479/fda-proposes-a ... vid-shots/
Sounds like the flu.. Ready to admit it mutate down to a flu season virus?


Pretty sure u laff at when I posted that previously.




Take ur Vax, that only lasts 4 months. That's al u hsve.


What's a cis?
Some sort of gender thing with these young peolle.

What I typed was a typo... Suposed to be cis
What are you talking about? I laugh at what you post all the time. Then I show the posts to friends so that they can laugh, too.

I can't understand what "mutate down" means but I'll add it to the list.
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Postby adnj » January 24th, 2023, 12:35 pm

alfa wrote:
1674577070263.jpg
Nothing like that was in public discussion before this year. Wait? What?!

COVID happens to be a disease of the old that can only be contracted from someone else.


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Together, our findings establish COVID-19 as an emergent disease of aging, and age and age-related diseases as its major risk factors. In turn, this suggests that COVID-19, and deadly respiratory diseases in general, may be targeted, in addition to antiviral approaches, by approaches that target the aging process.

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Postby alfa » January 24th, 2023, 12:39 pm

adnj wrote:
alfa wrote:1674577070263.jpg
Nothing like that was in public discussion before this year. Wait? What?!

COVID happens to be a disease of the old that can only be contracted from someone else.


Image


Together, our findings establish COVID-19 as an emergent disease of aging, and age and age-related diseases as its major risk factors. In turn, this suggests that COVID-19, and deadly respiratory diseases in general, may be targeted, in addition to antiviral approaches, by approaches that target the aging process.

Did you read the article? Because he was specifically talking about the economic and educational costs of lockdowns as well as the fear mongering

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Postby adnj » January 24th, 2023, 12:57 pm

alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
alfa wrote:1674577070263.jpg
Nothing like that was in public discussion before this year. Wait? What?!

COVID happens to be a disease of the old that can only be contracted from someone else.


Image


Together, our findings establish COVID-19 as an emergent disease of aging, and age and age-related diseases as its major risk factors. In turn, this suggests that COVID-19, and deadly respiratory diseases in general, may be targeted, in addition to antiviral approaches, by approaches that target the aging process.

Did you read the article? Because he was specifically talking about the economic and educational costs of lockdowns as well as the fear mongering
Of course I read it. Do you remember the phrase "out of an abundance of caution" used in conjunction with lock downs? I do.

I recall questioning the means of transmission, fatality rate, vaccine efficacy, reinfection period, hospital capacity, PPE reuse, etc. What was known was that there was not sufficient staffing for the number of people being held in the hospital, tests were not adequate, insufficient oxygen availability, etc.

I want to write a story predicting who will win the last World's Cup so that some tuner will post it.

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Postby alfa » January 24th, 2023, 1:24 pm

adnj wrote:
alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
alfa wrote:1674577070263.jpg
Nothing like that was in public discussion before this year. Wait? What?!

COVID happens to be a disease of the old that can only be contracted from someone else.


Image


Together, our findings establish COVID-19 as an emergent disease of aging, and age and age-related diseases as its major risk factors. In turn, this suggests that COVID-19, and deadly respiratory diseases in general, may be targeted, in addition to antiviral approaches, by approaches that target the aging process.

Did you read the article? Because he was specifically talking about the economic and educational costs of lockdowns as well as the fear mongering
Of course I read it. Do you remember the phrase "out of an abundance of caution" used in conjunction with lock downs? I do.

I recall questioning the means of transmission, fatality rate, vaccine efficacy, reinfection period, hospital capacity, PPE reuse, etc. What was known was that there were not sufficient staffing for the number of people being held in the hospital, tests were not adequate, insufficient oxygen availability, etc.

I want to write a story predicting who will win the last World's Cup so that some tuner will post it.


This wasn't you praising the lockdowns and now talking about an abundance of caution just as a medical doctor calls out the lockdowns as damaging ? You should go into politics dude seriously. But what does Dr Bratt know, he's only a doctor and not a BSc/Msc graduate trainee/OJT on an online forum

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