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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby rspann » November 8th, 2016, 6:48 am

.........and nothing is wrong with Ted Nugent's speech and grabbing his balls and the comments he made?
Why are people so hypocritical?

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby AbstractPoetic » November 8th, 2016, 7:31 am

Even Fox News is predicting a Trump loss.

If he loses any of New Hampshire, Nevada, North Carolina or Florida, Trump is done for.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby daas » November 8th, 2016, 7:34 am

shogun wrote:
A 55%, second term, approval rating, still in office, puppet as well.

Not too shabby


You seriously trying to argue with these fools? :?

Look at their posts and who they're supporting, you will find a direct co-relation between trump supporters and their number of brain cells.

Listening to trump supporters talk about Jay Z on tele and no surprise trump whores on here be eating that sheit wholesale.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby K74T » November 8th, 2016, 7:34 am

sMASH wrote:
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Fail

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby The_Honourable » November 8th, 2016, 7:50 am

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

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US Presidential Election 2016

Postby baigan » November 8th, 2016, 8:11 am

lol just don't get too worked up people, your lives won't end if Hilary/Trump loses, and you shouldn't turn on each other whoever loses.

no matter who wins it doesn't affect me in anyway whatsoever, unless it leads to a world war lol
I'm not even voting. So.....

I just think it's hilarious that out of everyone they could have had for President, USA boiled down to Donald trump and Hillary Clinton. But I've noticed there is more support for trump at his rallies etc


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Time magazine seems to get it lol
Both are terrible choices

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby MaxPower » November 8th, 2016, 8:23 am

Lady Gaga going to vote for Trump

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby cherrypopper » November 8th, 2016, 8:56 am

Lady Gaga ha no id cyad

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Daran » November 8th, 2016, 9:12 am

Trump will come closer than you guys think, I'm not a supporter, but it's amusing to see how much support he has garnered. Wait for it and see.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby MaxPower » November 8th, 2016, 9:36 am

Trump supporters will vote Trump....dont feel everyone in Hillary rallies gonna vote for her as well...lets see the outcome, everybody remain calm

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby redmanjp » November 8th, 2016, 9:54 am

D day for US

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37885746

US election 2016: When will we know the results?

7 November 2016

Americans go to the polls on 8 November to elect the 45th US president. Here's what to watch out for as election night unfolds.
All 50 states and Washington DC will go to the polls across six different time zones on election day.
But it's not just winning the popular vote that counts. The US's complicated system is a race to secure 270 out of the 538 votes in the electoral college.
Most of the US will have to wait for polling stations to close - typically between 19:00 EST (24:00 GMT) and 20:00 EST (01:00 GMT) - for state projections.
However, one village, Dixville Notch in New Hampshire, has a tradition of middle-of-the-night voting and will have declared its result before the polls even open everywhere else, at 00:01 EST (05:01 GMT).
Here's what's likely to happen, based on when polls close, with the caveat that all times are subject to change if it's too close to call.
The BBC relies on projections by its US-based partner broadcaster ABC, because it can take days for all the ballots to be counted.
As for the final result? Stay glued to your phone or TV or set your alarm for 23:00 EST (04:00 GMT). That's when West Coast polls close and history suggests a winner's declared. It was bang on the hour in 2008, and 15 minutes later in 2012.

19:00 EST (00:00 GMT)

East Coast polling booths close and counting begins.
All eyes will be on the key battleground state of Virginia (13 electoral votes), which voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012 but was previously solid Republican.
If Donald Trump is victorious here, or if it's a close win for Hillary Clinton, it could portend a very long, stressful night for the Democrats, according to the BBC's North America reporter Anthony Zurcher.
Georgia (16) is another one to watch. The state has voted Republican since 1996, but the party's margin of victory has eroded in recent elections.
Also expect projections from Indiana (11), home to Trump running mate Mike Pence, Kentucky (8), South Carolina (9) and Vermont (3).

19:30 EST (00:30 GMT)

Polls close in two further important states, North Carolina (15) and Ohio (18).
North Carolina defines the American divide.
"It's seen an influx of newcomers. Many of them lean Democrat. But poor white voters tip North Carolina's rural areas towards Donald Trump," the BBC's Katty Kay says. The state could be an early indicator of which way the election is going to go.
Ohio is one of the most hotly expected results. The bellwether swing state has backed the winner at every presidential contest except one since World War Two.
We could also see a projection for West Virginia (5), which has voted Republican since 2000.

20:00 EST (01:00 GMT)

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Rush hour begins.
Maine (4), Maryland (10), Massachusetts (11), New Jersey (14), Rhode Island (4), Delaware (3), Connecticut (7) and the District of Colombia (3) are among the East Coast states that will be projected.
The key battleground of Florida (29), which is crucial to the fortunes of any presidential contender, could also come in. The state voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012, but George W Bush won it in preceding elections - by just 537 votes in 2000. However, that year it took 36 days for Bush to be certified as the winner, as the vote triggered a recount and legal showdown, so if it's close don't expect an announcement for a while.
If Trump does not win Florida and Ohio, his chances of a victory will be slim.
We should hear from Pennsylvania (20), which has swung for the Democrats in the previous six elections. It will be a big blow to Clinton if she doesn't win here.
New Hampshire (4) will be eagerly watched as the polls suggest it's a dead heat.
A number of Republican strongholds - Mississippi (6), Missouri (10), Alabama (9), Tennessee (11)and Oklahoma (7) - should come in. As should Obama's home state of Illinois(20), which is expected to hand its votes to Clinton.
By this point, we should have a fairly clear idea which side is going to have the upper hand, even before many states are projected to have been won or lost.
20:30 EST (01:30 GMT)
Polls close in Arkansas (6), which backed Bill Clinton at successive elections in the 1990s, but has voted Republican since 2000.
Meanwhile the Asian markets open, so we'll get an indication of how currencies around the world might react to a Clinton or Trump presidency.

21:00 EST (02:00 GMT)

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Look for early projections for Clinton in New York (29), where she is heavily favoured.
The starkly divided state of Colorado (9), which has a growing Latino population but a strong conservative streak, will be a key state to watch this hour. Historically, it's one of the most widely swinging battleground states, casting its vote for Republican George W Bush in 2004 by a higher percentage than the nation as a whole, but then doing the same thing for Democrat Barack Obama four years later.
The industrial Midwestern state of Michigan (16) could also cause an upset. Voters there haven't supported a Republican for president since 1988, but a backlash against globalisation has turned the state's heavily populated white, non-college-educated voters to Trump.
Polls also close in Texas (38), Kansas (6), Louisiana (8), North Dakota (3), South Dakota (3), Minnesota (10), Wyoming (3) and Nebraska (5).It's worth noting that Nebraska and Maine are the only two states not to allocate all their votes to the winner of the popular vote.
Keep an eye on Wisconsin (10), which hasn't gone Republican since 1984. Trump has been making a last-minute push to turn the state red.
New Mexico (5) used to be seen as a swing state but Democrats have won five of the past six presidential elections and Trump's anti-immigrant rhetoric and repeated vows to build a wall along the border should hand it to Clinton this time.

22:00 EST (03:00 GMT)

Historically Republican Nevada (6) looks like it could be a nail biter, as early voting suggests a Hispanic surge could turn out for Clinton. It's a similar situation in Arizona (11), which has voted Republican in every election since 1952 with the exception of Bill Clinton's win in 1996.
Utah (6) is another interesting one to watch. Former CIA agent and Mormon Evan McMullin, who is running as an independent, is doing well in the polls and could be the only state to hand a loss to both Clinton and Trump, despite backing Republican candidates in the past.
Iowa (6) is a must-win for Trump, given his strength among white, non-college-educated voters, but it voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 so it's not a done deal.
Montana (3) has been safely Republican since 1968, bar a single victory for Democrat Bill Clinton in 1992.

How are projections made?

The pressure is always on the main American TV networks to be the first to "call" the result of a presidential election, before all of the votes have been counted - a process that can take days.
But there is even more pressure on them to get that announcement right.
Nobody wants a repeat of the 2000 election, when the networks had to withdraw their projected result for Florida after prematurely declaring George W Bush the next president.
The networks have "decision desks", groups of statisticians who are kept away from the main news room, and whose job it is to come up with state-by-state projections.
The BBC is using projections from experts at ABC News - its US broadcast partner - for the presidential race. For the House, Senate and governor races, it will use the Associated Press news agency, which gathers voting data from state and local officials.
Many other networks use AP and Edison Research, which carries out exit polls. The BBC is not conducting its own exit poll, as it would at a UK general election.
Unlike most of the US networks, the BBC will not be "calling" the result of the election. It will be reporting the projections from the ABC results team, which are made based on expert analysis before all the votes have been counted.

23:00 EST (04:00 GMT)

The polls close in the biggest electoral prize on the map, California (55), which is a Democratic stronghold, as well as Oregon (7), Washington (12), Idaho (4) and Hawaii (4).
Drum roll: Depending on how the electoral college is stacking up, every media outlet under the sun could declare the next president of the US.
Tradition dictates that a concession speech will follow shortly afterwards. It was at 00:00 EST (05:00 GMT) in 2012 and 2008. However, in 2004, John Kerry didn't concede until the following day.
Given Trump's rhetoric about "rigged elections", if he doesn't win, he might demand a recount or refuse to concede. If that happens, when the US president is finally declared is anybody's game.

01:00 EST (06:00 GMT)

Poor old Alaska (3). If it's really, really tight, the state might still matter, but expect the drama to already be over.
Other things to watch
Americans are also voting for 34 of the US Senate's 100 seats and all 435 seats in the House of Representatives. Democrats need four seats to regain control of the Senate and 30 seats to regain control of the House.
Twelve governorships are also up for grabs.

20 January 2017

The president-elect won't actually become the 45th president of the United States until 20 January, which is Inauguration Day. This is explicitly laid out in the US constitution. The president-elect will place his or her hand on the bible and take the Oath of Office at noon. From then, the government is in their hands.
So is the White House. Usually, the sitting president and their spouse host the incoming-First Couple for tea before the ceremony. About six hours later, the new First Family moves in.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby AbstractPoetic » November 8th, 2016, 9:55 am

MaxPower wrote:Trump supporters will vote Trump....dont feel everyone in Hillary rallies gonna vote for her as well...lets see the outcome, everybody remain calm


You have that in the reverse...don't feel like everyone in Trump rallies gonna vote for Trump.

Early voting indicates that Hispanic voters are out in full force in states like Florida. Guess who they are voting for? I'm not relying on rally attendance, but casted votes. Hillary is currently outnumbering Trump with Hispanic voters by a large margin.

Like I said, he loses one of Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina or Florida and its over for him.

Also, early signs of a Trump defeat:

1. His "victory party" is private and only open to his most closest supporters and donors. Hillary's victory party is open to the public. Both will be held in midtown-Manhattan.

2. Since early morning, not one mention on Trump's Facebook to remind his supporters to vote. Hillary's Facebook has been active all night into the morning before polling stations opened.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby baigan » November 8th, 2016, 10:19 am

^ I wouldn't really look at Facebook for who wins lol
But yeah, early hispanic voters are up 139% in Florida.

My parents voted for Hillary lol : P

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby shogun » November 8th, 2016, 10:55 am

The_Honourable wrote:
That is the REAL dark horse in this race. Even if you don't want to vote Trump, his campaign, wikileaks and the internet open people's eyes this election and exposed Hillary. If she becomes President, I expect her to clamp down on the Internet


:lol: :lol:

Just look at the nonsense being passed off as discourse? Simply amazing. If Hillary is that unilaterally powerful, sounds like she won already?

Don't think there aren't silent voters anxiously waiting to voice their opinions against Trumps bigotry, misogyny, sexual assault utterances and general stupidity as well, eh? It cuts both ways. As usual though, that Trump savior bubble has terrible side effects.

Just wait till after the election, if Trump loses. Wikileaks won't hold a candle to the info on Trump that will finally be brought to light.


EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Its always cool to see the rich supporting the rich. Celebrities who live in a bubble saying to vote Hillary is always comical. Good thing the rich is against Trump it gives a hint who to vote for.



So Ted Nugent, Scott Baio, Antonio Sabato Jr and the Duck Dynasty idiots aren't rich celebs? Trump just whiny, because he doesn't have that support. Don't blame Hillary because more celebs endorse her. If they supported Trump, the RNC would do the very same, hypocrite.


rspann wrote:.........and nothing is wrong with Ted Nugent's speech and grabbing his balls and the comments he made? Why are people so hypocritical?



Because he's on stage at a political rally. Also, Nugent has a history of being racist and tactless. If a local politician did that on stage at a rally, I think there would and should be backlash. You people just lack tact.


MaxPower wrote:Lady Gaga going to vote for Trump


:lol:

Well yes...

So, after Lady Gaga was so critical of Trump, his daughter and that whole movement, she votes for him?




What scares me most, is these people above get to vote locally eh. Food for thought

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby shogun » November 8th, 2016, 11:04 am

AbstractPoetic wrote:1. His "victory party" is private and only open to his most closest supporters and donors. Hillary's victory party is open to the public. Both will be held in midtown-Manhattan.


Please tell me this isn't true? :lol:

Well, there's a "man for the people" right there

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby shogun » November 8th, 2016, 11:13 am

baigan wrote:lol just don't get too worked up people, your lives won't end if Hilary/Trump loses, and you shouldn't turn on each other whoever loses.

no matter who wins it doesn't affect me in anyway whatsoever, unless it leads to a world war lol
I'm not even voting. So.....


It will affect us if the policies to follow tank the US economy.

baigan wrote:I just think it's hilarious that out of everyone they could have had for President, USA boiled down to Donald trump and Hillary Clinton.


Ent? :lol:

baigan wrote:But I've noticed there is more support for trump at his rallies etc


Crowds don't equate to automatic votes. It happened with Romney in 2012. Besides most of those Trump people go for the "show"

It's no secret Trump is more entertaining...... and Hillary is like that boring but smart aunt that pretends to be hip. It just depends on what people want in an actual leader

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby bluesclues » November 8th, 2016, 11:47 am

The illusion of choice. Cool to see so many so passionate about US elections outcome as i once was. Ppl only vote for establishment candidates. They dont vote for independents. Because theyre not rich enough, dont get prominent media spotlights, dont get funded by large corporations. But somehow expect the only options they were provided with not to function as corporate extensions in government. U all should not be silly. Trump is establishment too. Materialist ppl pick materialist leaders.

America is under darklight no matter how u take it. The choices they have are

1. Hillary to propogate wars to generate revenue for america as weapons and defence are it's major export. Understand that first.

2. Trump will further the corporate agenda, sell american jobs to foreigners and make the corporatocracy stronger than its ever been before. It doesnt matter what is said on the podium.

But it doesnt matter really. Because its just 2 sides of a coin that americans want and not only that, are asking for to continue their materialist fueled society of extremely high standards. Ppl will vote for trump because they want to push themselves into his culture, feeling like they identify with him because they 'plan on' becoming rich too. Deluding themselves to believe that he identifies with them because they identify with him. But trump is completely disconnected and probably could not share a room with folks who werent already of an elitist breed. that means he is a 1 percenter. And as u know. The 1 percenters make up the establishment.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » November 8th, 2016, 12:34 pm

My Prediction is Trump wins because people have had it with politically correct lying politicians.

My family who lives in NY and Florida told me they have voted for Hillary, but its as I expected they are part of the partisan old fart generation who only vote UNC and gets their news from Television stations like CNN they are not capable of using the internet in a meaningful way to find out what is really happening.

I do not see right thinking and clear minded people voting for Hillary when she was caught red handed in corruption the likes of which involves paying people $1500 to punch Trump supporters in the face, vandalize their vehicles aswell as obtaining the questions for the debates against both sanders and Trump.

Bernie supporters know very well there is noway for them to vote for Hillary without being a complete hypocrite seeing as she obtained all the questions for the debate against sanders illegally she secretly undermined sanders with debbie and to top it off she is being financed and groomed by the same top 1% that they were working against and we know all of this through the wikileaks so she is an outright liar.

I do NOT expect to see Bernie supporters voting Hillary I expect them to either vote Trump or Abstain from voting, I believe the silent majority and the undecided who are capable of changing their votes will vote for Trump. Everybody thinks that a certain race has to vote for 1 single party until they die and I believe that nasty political game is dying on its ass as people become more educated and see the world differently through the internet. I believe this is why PNM won a UNC strong hold in the 2015 aswell and why Trump will win atleast 1 democrat stronghold.

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Postby AbstractPoetic » November 8th, 2016, 12:42 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:My Prediction is Trump wins because people have had it with politically correct lying politicians.

My family who lives in NY and Florida told me they have voted for Hillary, but its as I expected they are part of the partisan old fart generation who only vote UNC and gets their news from Television stations like CNN they are not capable of using the internet in a meaningful way to find out what is really happening.

I do not see right thinking and clear minded people voting for Hillary when she was caught red handed in corruption the likes of which involves paying people $1500 to punch Trump supporters in the face, vandalize their vehicles aswell as obtaining the questions for the debates against both sanders and Trump.

Bernie supporters know very well there is noway for them to vote for Hillary without being a complete hypocrite seeing as she obtained all the questions for the debate against sanders illegally she secretly undermined sanders with debbie and to top it off she is being financed and groomed by the same top 1% that they were working against and we know all of this through the wikileaks so she is an outright liar.

I do NOT expect to see Bernie supporters voting Hillary I expect them to either vote Trump or Abstain from voting, I believe the silent majority and the undecided who are capable of changing their votes will vote for Trump. Everybody thinks that a certain race has to vote for 1 single party until they die and I believe that nasty political game is dying on its ass as people become more educated and see the world differently through the internet. I believe this is why PNM won a UNC strong hold in the 2015 aswell and why Trump will win atleast 1 democrat stronghold.


Quoting for future reference later this evening.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby cherrypopper » November 8th, 2016, 1:26 pm

TRUMP is d man......






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UNTIL TOMORROW. .hahahahahha

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby baigan » November 8th, 2016, 1:29 pm

shogun wrote:

:lol:

Lol

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » November 8th, 2016, 2:34 pm

AbstractPoetic wrote:
Quoting for future reference later this evening.


I highly doubt you have been reading this thread if you feel that I only just predicted that Trump will win this election. You might want to go back a few pages.

In the very slim chance that Trump loses it would simply mean that the election was rigged.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » November 8th, 2016, 2:34 pm

Julian Assange releases his statement on the US Election

https://wikileaks.org/Assange-Statement ... ction.html

By Julian Assange

In recent months, WikiLeaks and I personally have come under enormous pressure to stop publishing what the Clinton campaign says about itself to itself. That pressure has come from the campaign’s allies, including the Obama administration, and from liberals who are anxious about who will be elected US President.

On the eve of the election, it is important to restate why we have published what we have.

The right to receive and impart true information is the guiding principle of WikiLeaks – an organization that has a staff and organizational mission far beyond myself. Our organization defends the public’s right to be informed.

This is why, irrespective of the outcome of the 2016 US Presidential election, the real victor is the US public which is better informed as a result of our work.

The US public has thoroughly engaged with WikiLeaks’ election related publications which number more than one hundred thousand documents. Millions of Americans have pored over the leaks and passed on their citations to each other and to us. It is an open model of journalism that gatekeepers are uncomfortable with, but which is perfectly harmonious with the First Amendment.

We publish material given to us if it is of political, diplomatic, historical or ethical importance and which has not been published elsewhere. When we have material that fulfills this criteria, we publish. We had information that fit our editorial criteria which related to the Sanders and Clinton campaign (DNC Leaks) and the Clinton political campaign and Foundation (Podesta Emails). No-one disputes the public importance of these publications. It would be unconscionable for WikiLeaks to withhold such an archive from the public during an election.

At the same time, we cannot publish what we do not have. To date, we have not received information on Donald Trump’s campaign, or Jill Stein’s campaign, or Gary Johnson’s campaign or any of the other candidates that fufills our stated editorial criteria. As a result of publishing Clinton’s cables and indexing her emails we are seen as domain experts on Clinton archives. So it is natural that Clinton sources come to us.

We publish as fast as our resources will allow and as fast as the public can absorb it.

That is our commitment to ourselves, to our sources, and to the public.

This is not due to a personal desire to influence the outcome of the election. The Democratic and Republican candidates have both expressed hostility towards whistleblowers. I spoke at the launch of the campaign for Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate, because her platform addresses the need to protect them. This is an issue that is close to my heart because of the Obama administration’s inhuman and degrading treatment of one of our alleged sources, Chelsea Manning. But WikiLeaks publications are not an attempt to get Jill Stein elected or to take revenge over Ms Manning’s treatment either.

Publishing is what we do. To withhold the publication of such information until after the election would have been to favour one of the candidates above the public’s right to know.

This is after all what happened when the New York Times withheld evidence of illegal mass surveillance of the US population for a year until after the 2004 election, denying the public a critical understanding of the incumbent president George W Bush, which probably secured his reelection. The current editor of the New York Times has distanced himself from that decision and rightly so.

The US public defends free speech more passionately, but the First Amendment only truly lives through its repeated exercise. The First Amendment explicitly prevents the executive from attempting to restrict anyone’s ability to speak and publish freely. The First Amendment does not privilege old media, with its corporate advertisers and dependencies on incumbent power factions, over WikiLeaks’ model of scientific journalism or an individual’s decision to inform their friends on social media. The First Amendment unapologetically nurtures the democratization of knowledge. With the Internet, it has reached its full potential.

Yet, some weeks ago, in a tactic reminiscent of Senator McCarthy and the red scare, Wikileaks, Green Party candidate Stein, Glenn Greenwald and Clinton’s main opponent were painted with a broad, red brush. The Clinton campaign, when they were not spreading obvious untruths, pointed to unnamed sources or to speculative and vague statements from the intelligence community to suggest a nefarious allegiance with Russia. The campaign was unable to invoke evidence about our publications—because none exists.

In the end, those who have attempted to malign our groundbreaking work over the past four months seek to inhibit public understanding perhaps because it is embarrassing to them – a reason for censorship the First Amendment cannot tolerate. Only unsuccessfully do they try to claim that our publications are inaccurate.

WikiLeaks’ decade-long pristine record for authentication remains. Our key publications this round have even been proven through the cryptographic signatures of the companies they passed through, such as Google. It is not every day you can mathematically prove that your publications are perfect but this day is one of them.

We have endured intense criticism, primarily from Clinton supporters, for our publications. Many long-term supporters have been frustrated because we have not addressed this criticism in a systematic way or responded to a number of false narratives about Wikileaks’ motivation or sources. Ultimately, however, if WL reacted to every false claim, we would have to divert resources from our primary work.

WikiLeaks, like all publishers, is ultimately accountable to its funders. Those funders are you. Our resources are entirely made up of contributions from the public and our book sales. This allows us to be principled, independent and free in a way no other influential media organization is. But it also means that we do not have the resources of CNN, MSNBC or the Clinton campaign to constantly rebuff criticism.

Yet if the press obeys considerations above informing the public, we are no longer talking about a free press, and we are no longer talking about an informed public.

Wikileaks remains committed to publishing information that informs the public, even if many, especially those in power, would prefer not to see it. WikiLeaks must publish. It must publish and be damned.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby baigan » November 8th, 2016, 2:39 pm

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