AG’s alleged witness tampering

[orangefox]

At what point in time did Calder Hart became an issue? During his time under the UNC, his 1st 2nd 5th 6th year under PNM? Rowley privately took issue with Hart until it came to head and became public, I see no tacit approval. Unless you have new information on Landate, it is no more than a rumor. To attribute blame to Rowley for a bad investment by the Eteck board, is like saying Vasant Bharath is guilty for LifeSport.

To use your own standard, did you support KPB for PM? Did she speak out on the confirmed corruption with the airport? Did she organise a march at the prison in support of accused and later convicted Panday? Did she ascend a man with many allegations over his head to MoNS but fired Griffith for not being willing to compromise to speak the truth if called upon by a judge?

Keith Rowley isn't perfect, but he has demonstrated he is man of principle. I can't say the same for Kamla?

Habit7 again, well done. The following is the " What if ". A Romantic Comedy.

Calder is yet to face the Courts. But if you look at POS you will see the Calder PNM's development ; somewhat incomplete.The PP should have finished the projects, brought a conclusion to Port-of-Spain as a shining example of an Oil/Gas jewel city in the Caribbean. But they failed. They did not come hence with any plan.

But more important PP held back progress in failure to complete POS's development. Eteck is a fantastic idea. It can be an excellent revenue stream. Financial Waterfront was supposed to be the Financial Investment Jewel but it house's Parliament and Ministries. Shocking ! Why ? They want to continue with the propaganda . They will beat progress with an ugly stick over and over. They like to see blood. Stacy, Gary, Volney, even Anand. And West maybe. And the 14 others. Where in the Caribbean has this ever happened ? Maybe Cuba

The St Ann's Diplomatic House was supposed to be the Trinidad's PM Office & Jewel Home. But PM Kamal finished her Siparia Diplomatic House. Jack and Patrick exposed this propaganda but to no avail. There is where she hold her meetings. Meanwhile "The White House" is falling apart, every white brick into decay. The new PM's Office in St Clair looks like it has the Berlin Wall around it. Why ? What does she fear ? She fears progress !

Will De Dragon's, ZR's or your kids benefit ? No ! Nee ! La ! Bu ! Nein ! Ni ! Nah !

In TT we magnify the hairline fractures (negatives) and shrink visions (positives) since we do not see progress or even appreciate it or the innate educational capacity to envision. Not talking about GATE

"Blind hatred" continues with propaganda after they have closed the books, as example Landate.

It is again " blind hatred " as portrayed in this forum's thread in specifics. Others like ZR seems focused on distractions and "trollism" and cannot come to terms that the younger educated generation is fed up of the "old goats' thinking."

Call Election 2015 PM Kamla and free the People from your pippy stocking dictatorship !

[Habit7]

Principles are not like cake, to be pulled out only on occasion but like bread for everyday use. Privately took issue? That doesn't mean a thing. If you have an issue you bring it up, and yes both sides are equally guilty of this. They sit there while all sorts of corruption takes place, but Rowley, Jack, Volney etc only find their voice when out of favour with the party.

I don't know what timeline you have but Rowley brought his concerns to Manning, who didn't act. Then at a mtg he chastised his other Cabinet members for their silence. They reported it to Manning who thought it was grounds to fire him from the Cabinet.
http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,77636.html

Then Rowley spoke out publicly in parliament with his history of concerns to back him up.

But say what, you have one standard for Rowley that you are not willing to apply to Kamla. Guess who between us has the "blind hate"?

[orangefox]

Principles are not like cake, to be pulled out only on occasion but like bread for everyday use. Privately took issue? That doesn't mean a thing. If you have an issue you bring it up, and yes both sides are equally guilty of this. They sit there while all sorts of corruption takes place, but Rowley, Jack, Volney etc only find their voice when out of favour with the party.

I don't know what timeline you have but Rowley brought his concerns to Manning, who didn't act. Then at a mtg he chastised his other Cabinet members for their silence. They reported it to Manning who thought it was grounds to fire him from the Cabinet.
http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,77636.html

Then Rowley spoke out publicly in parliament with his history of concerns to back him up.

But say what, you have one standard for Rowley that you are not willing to apply to Kamla. Guess who between us has the "blind hate"?

There is a different value system for some people. Some live for propaganda and failure.

Regardless of the consequences . Again. Regardless of the consequences

Young generation want more. They want the nonsense to STOP since everything is politics.

When a young AG allegedly commits a crime then is fired and disgraced by the Prime Minister since with all his medals of honor, he unable to convince the Prime Minister otherwise, you wonder

What is then needed is a progressive type leadership that will transform TT but without dark side nonsense politics and propoganda and "blind hatred" and etc. etc. and the negatives.

100% convinced that certain Ministers review Tuner ! Why ? Hmmm

[UML]

Balisier House slapping report completed



Gail Alexander
Published:

Saturday, November 16, 2013

The Opposition’s investigative team’s report on the alleged slapping incident at the party’s headquarters, Balisier House, in April has been completed, People’s National Movement general secretary Ashton Ford said yesterday. He said the report would come to him and before it was taken to the party’s general council. Ford could not say if it would be tabled at today’s council meeting nor could he give the direction or outcome of the probe.





The investigative team was mandated to probe the situation after then San Juan councillor Kwesi Antoine filed an official complaint regarding the alleged incident. This was alleged to have occurred after a late-night screening session of local government nominees. Opposition MP Donna Cox subsequently denied slapping Antoine.



Other party officials explained the report of the investigative team has to be presented to the general council which will then decide if to send the issue to PNM’s disciplinary team for action, or if the issue ends there based on the report. They expected the issue would be finalised and decided upon, well before year-end.





Meanwhile, Ford said today’s meeting will review PNM’s performance in the recent local government elections and the St Joseph by-election elections. He could not say who would be appointed to the Senate sitting on Tuesday—to replace Terrence Deyalsingh who formerly served in the Senate. Ford could not comment on names which have been tipped. He said the leader would make a choice and would not necessarily have to announce it to today’s meeting.



Names tipped within PNM include former San Juan Regional Corporation chairman Nafeesa Mohammed, former PNM senators Christine Sahadeo and Mariano Browne and attorneys Justin Phelps and David West among others. For Tuesday’s Senate session, PNM vice-chairman Camille Robinson-Regis will serve as a temporary senator replacing PNM Senate leader Pennelope Beckles who is on a Commonwealth Parliamentary Association conference in Asia, it was confirmed.



Meanwhile, PNM deputy leader Marlene McDonald was unable to give the status of the party’s plan to pursue legal action against the Government concerning alleged discrimination against workers who voted for PNM in recent elections. PNM leader Dr Keith Rowley last month indicated the party would pursue such action.



Meanwhile, Jack Warner’s Independent Liberal Party (ILP) was still working out the logistics of a similar move to file legal action against the Government regarding alleged discrimination of workers who voted for the his party, the defeated candidate for St Joseph by-election Oma Lalla said yesterday. Lalla is on a legal team assisting the process in the party. The ILP is eyeing several tests cases concerning Cepep and URP workers.



ILP is working on bringing in an English Queen’s Counsel to deal with the matter. Lalla said the framework is still being formulated and will take a little time since it is a novel move. Lalla said political analyst Selwyn Ryan’s view that the ILP was withering away may be a logical assessment after the party suffered two defeats.





But Lalla added, “You cannot, however, discount a third party. When compared to the Congress of the People, ILP is still relevant and very much alive and demonstrates the discontent in T&T regarding the PP and PNM.”

West under watch

Gail Alexander

Published:
Friday, February 13, 2015


President Anthony Carmona is awaiting advice from a Queen’s Counsel (QC) on the issue concerning the tenure of Police Complaints Authority director David West.

Carmona’s communications officer Theron Boodan confirmed that yesterday, after the T&T Guardian queried whether Carmona had yet acted after Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar wrote to him last week seeking West’s removal as PCA head, and subsequent advice against that offered publicly by former Attorney General Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj, SC, and Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley.

Boodan could not say when the QC’s advice would be received or who was the QC but said Carmona had acknowledged Persad-Bissessar’s letter.

He said the President also acknowledged Maharaj’s recent open letter to him. In his letter, Maharaj told the President he did not have the power and jurisdiction under the PCA Act to revoke West’s appointment and would be making an error in law if he was to heed Persad-Bissessar’s call to remove West on the grounds she cited in her statement to the nation on the issue. It is uncertain if Carmona, who was a judge with the International Court, is recruiting foreign input on the issue.

West has been the centre of contention after alleging former Attorney General Anand Ramlogan attempted to pervert the course of justice. The allegation is that Ramlogan sought to get West to withdraw his witness statement on behalf of Rowley in a defamation case between Rowley and Ramlogan on the Section 34 matter, in exchange for the PCA post.

Ramlogan denied the allegations but West subsequently filed a police complaint and the matter is being probed under DCP Harold Phillip. The PM had called for Carmona to remove West after she sought and received the resignation of Ramlogan from the Cabinet. She also removed Gary Griffith from the National Security Ministry. Griffith is reported to have given a statement to police in West’s favour in the matter. He also lodged a police statement alleging certain ministers tried to influence him on the issue.

Persad-Bissessar has said West’s appointment as PCA director has been compromised and he should immediately resign or his appointment should be revoked by Carmona. She later called on Carmona to commission an independent enquiry into the matter. In his letter to Carmona, Maharaj praised West as upholding high standards, noting this would appear as vindication of his (Carmona’s) appointment of the director.

Maharaj said the Prime Minister did not cite any law or code of ethics which required West to disclose the matter to the President or the Prime Minister and it would be an error if Carmona was to revoke his appointment. Maharaj said Section 12 of the PCA Act sets out the specific grounds by which the appointment of the PCA director could be revoked.

He said the matters stated by the PM did not fall within the scope of Section 12. He told the President that the PM was asking him to act without jurisdiction and to act ultra vires to the act and “this would be contrary to the rule of law.”

What pcs act says
Section 12 (PCA Act): According to the act the President, acting in his discretion, may revoke the appointment of the director or deputy director where he is satisfied that the person
(a) has, without reasonable excuse, failed to carry out his prescribed duties for a continuous period of three months;
(b) is unable to discharge the functions of his office, whether arising from infirmity of mind or body or any other cause, or for misbehaviour; or (c) has become a person who would be disqualified for appointment pursuant to Section 8.
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02- ... nder-watch

WEST MUST GO!!!



Non-Disclosure of information. Conflict of interest!

[bluesclues]

according to the article however, according to the law, he has not met any of the criteria to be fired. so firing him would be illegal. west will hold his position. he's actually doing his job. no conflict of interest.

[De Dragon]

Principles are not like cake, to be pulled out only on occasion but like bread for everyday use. Privately took issue? That doesn't mean a thing. If you have an issue you bring it up, and yes both sides are equally guilty of this. They sit there while all sorts of corruption takes place, but Rowley, Jack, Volney etc only find their voice when out of favour with the party.

I don't know what timeline you have but Rowley brought his concerns to Manning, who didn't act. Then at a mtg he chastised his other Cabinet members for their silence. They reported it to Manning who thought it was grounds to fire him from the Cabinet.
http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,77636.html

Then Rowley spoke out publicly in parliament with his history of concerns to back him up.

But say what, you have one standard for Rowley that you are not willing to apply to Kamla. Guess who between us has the "blind hate"?

Conveniently you seem not to have noticed when I said both sides were guilty of looking the other way at corruption.

[UML]

GHANY: West appointment flawed

As a fierce political battle rages over the issue of whether or not David West should step down or be removed as director of the Police Complaints Authority…

On Saturday, February 7 instant, Reshma Ragoonath reported in the Guardian that former president of the Law Association Martin Daly said the following:
“Any duty of disclosure that exists is owed to the appointing authority and not to recommenders or lobbyists.”

There are very strong reasons to disagree with this point of view, primarily because it devalues the vetting process and has the potential to provide an appointing authority with flawed advice. In this particular instance, the appointment of David West was to be made on the joint advice of the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition. The President did not have room to set aside this joint advice and was required to act on it.

In the circumstances, what has transpired is that the joint recommending authorities (the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition) were apparently deprived of all of the facts when their joint advice was tendered to the President. As a consequence, that advice was flawed.

It is at this point that law and politics take their leave of each other. Good governance would demand that all recommending authorities be provided with all of the facts before advice is tendered. Lowering the bar to advance a case for the sustenance of material non-disclosure as an acceptable standard where recommending authorities are concerned is dangerous and will cause exactly the problem that the society faces now.

Another disconnect is that when David West was appointed in early November he had not yet filed any witness statement. What was the cause of the delay between the time of the allegation of bribery (end of October/early November) and the eventual filing of the witness statement in mid-December?

Media reports suggest that his witness statement was under consideration at the time of his appointment. Does the allegation of witness tampering arise before or after the statement is filed? The appointment was made in November and the statement filed in December.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/columnist/201 ... disconnect

.....from a qualified, well-respected, knowledgeable political scientist.

[pugboy]

padna, by definition a political scientist CANNOT be used to judged anything
they not much better than rumshop talkers, in fact they worse because they
does wear suit to mamaguy people

[De Dragon]

padna, by definition a political scientist CANNOT be used to judged anything
they not much better than rumshop talkers, in fact they worse because they
does wear suit to mamaguy people

Still the an does raise an important point about the delay in reporting the ex AGs alleged approach to him in relation to the witness statement.

[Habit7]

West is not going anywhere, the President is not sending him anywhere and the Police Social and Welfare Association doesn't want him to go anywhere.


Give it up.

[UML]

padna, by definition a political scientist CANNOT be used to judged anything
they not much better than rumshop talkers, in fact they worse because they
does wear suit to mamaguy people

Still the an does raise an important point about the delay in reporting the ex AGs alleged approach to him in relation to the witness statement.

And Non-Disclosure of their secret just like Ken "integrityless" Gordon secret meeting with Rowley and was classless enough to refuse to step down. Now he telling West to do the same.

[pugboy]

not really at all, the continued emphasis on why no reporting was done is a moot point
put yourself in the situation.....

picture this,
man1 get ask to do something illegal from man2
he reports it to the asker's man2 boss,

boss call both of them in and ask if/why man2 ask man1 to do something illegal
you think man2 going to say "yes maam, I did wrong, lock me up one time"
(esp if man2 already in partnership with the boss and man1 is just somebody off the street)

man2 will say "nah, I never say that, he lie, ask him if he record that on he phone or have a witness" and guess what, man1 go get lick up and look stupid like Rowley emailgate

if man1 smart he will do nothing as that is his best option until something comes up later
which has a firm witness(Griffith) to corroborate his situation

situations of one man word against another usually lead to reporter getting lickup
when padnas involved

you guys obviously never watch shawshank and see what happen to the young fella who report about who kill andy wife

[orangefox]

Nevertheless, this reminds me that I need to update my voter registration info. It might be better to beat the rush.

Agree . And West now going anywhere. Not South, East or North.