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sMASH wrote:bluefete wrote:paid_influencer wrote:Barbados is not really that good. Barbados implementation of the lockdown and closing groceries, parlours, food outlets, etc - was about the worst thing they could do. Say nothing about the response on cruise ships (which was an issue known since the Diamond Princess in February). Now they are opening borders without mandatory state quarantine, imo another really terrible decision.
On the testing numbers - Barbados has about a quarter our population and about the same number of cases - meaning their positive test rate is four times ours. That higher positive test rate in itself warrants a higher number of tests.
Also, we have moved on from contact tracing into surveillance testing. That means we are doing sampling. If you wanted to check the taste a pot of corn soup, you'd take a cup of the soup and eat it. That cup full is enough for you to determine if there's enough salt, if it boil down, if it have maggi, etc. You don't need to eat the whole pot of soup to get that information.
In the same way, we don't need to test the whole of Trinidad to get virus prevalence statistics. The more people we test, the higher our confidence level, yes. But at a certain point, we get into diminishing returns where we need a order of magnitude more testing for a very small statistical gain that probably won't even change our policy decisions at the end of the day.
I should have posted their rates before. The last one is T&T.
they implementing self quarantine upon arrival until the tests come back good. once its adhered to, that should be enough.
yeah, they mess up the practices for the citizens, worse than us, but hey, they live.
aaron17 wrote:So 150 venez entered tnt ...and they cannot find them. One of them bound to have covid.
j.o.e wrote:aaron17 wrote:So 150 venez entered tnt ...and they cannot find them. One of them bound to have covid.
We going and dead
pugboy wrote:nah pics show the ones they ketch had masksj.o.e wrote:aaron17 wrote:So 150 venez entered tnt ...and they cannot find them. One of them bound to have covid.
We going and dead
pugboy wrote:they are guaranteed free healthcare here
2 stylists had coronavirus but wore masks, and 139 clients didn’t get sick
“This really shows the power of face coverings, especially in indoor settings."
Vigilant mask wearing might have spared nearly 140 people from catching the coronavirus at a hair salon in Missouri, according to a report published Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In May, the people interacted with two hair stylists with confirmed coronavirus infections, but none ended up showing symptoms of COVID-19.
The team behind the study, which includes members of Missouri’s Springfield-Greene County Health Department, cannot be certain of all the factors that helped avert what might otherwise have been a disastrous outbreak. But policies instructing locals to cover their mouths and noses, put in place by the city of Springfield and by the salon where the stylists worked, Great Clips, appear to have played a substantial role in curbing the spread of disease.
“This really shows the power of face coverings, especially in indoor settings,” said Nadia Abuelezam, an infectious disease epidemiologist at Boston College who wasn’t involved in the study.
The findings reiterate what scientists have been saying for months: Face masks are an essential part of the disease-prevention tool kit, said Juan Gutiérrez, a mathematical biologist at the University of Texas at San Antonio who models coronavirus transmission but wasn’t involved in the study. “If we get that message out to people consistently, we might be able to contain this.”
Both stylists fell ill in mid-May. But they continued to work with clients for about a week after they started to feel symptoms, said Kendra Findley, a researcher at the Springfield-Greene County Health Department and an author of the study.
At the time, Springfield’s businesses had just begun to reopen, and confirmed coronavirus case numbers in the region were extremely low, said Dr. Robin Trotman, an infectious disease physician and an author of the study.
“There were days when we had one or two cases, max,” he said. Such low local prevalence may have been part of the reason that the first stylist chalked her cough and fever up to allergies and kept returning to work, Findley said. Against recommendations, she returned to her job even while awaiting her coronavirus test results, which she got two days after taking her test.
The second Great Clips employee fell ill within days of her colleague, although none of the other four stylists on staff ended up feeling unwell. The two sick stylists both eventually tested positive for the coronavirus, after which they were told by the salon to isolate at home.
By that point, however, the pair had come into close contact with 139 clients seeking haircuts, facial hair trimmings and perms — appointments that bring people within inches of each other for 15 to 45 minutes at a time, more than enough time for the virus to travel through the air from person to person.
And perhaps it would have, had it not been for the masks.
In the days after, health officials contact-traced all 139 people exposed to the stylists and asked them to self-quarantine for two weeks. None reported feeling sick during the 14 days that followed their salon appointments. The researchers also offered the clients free diagnostic tests for the coronavirus. Sixty-seven of them accepted; the rest declined. Of those tested, all turned up negative.
“I was shocked,” Findley said.
Follow-up interviews with 104 of the clients revealed that, in accordance with guidelines, patrons and stylists alike had worn masks for the duration of almost all the encounters documented by the study.
A small handful of clients had donned N95 respirators — devices designed to filter out 95% of airborne particles and one of the best forms of protection for health workers. Since the start of the pandemic, N95s have been in dire short supply.
But a majority of people in the study, including the two stylists, opted for cloth coverings or surgical masks — loosefitting accessories that don’t form an airtight seal around the face.
These products are imperfect. But several studies, including some initiated long before the pandemic’s start, have pointed to their usefulness in stymieing the spread of viruses from the wearer’s airway, Julian Tang, a virologist at the University of Leicester who wasn’t involved in the study, said in an email. To a lesser extent, they may also protect a user from incoming spray.
In this case, even homemade masks that can’t reliably snuff out every virus-laden particle seemed to do the trick — an incredibly encouraging finding, Gutiérrez said. “Had they not been using those masks, we would have expected a totally different situation,” he said.
Of course, masks alone can’t be considered a foolproof “safety net,” said Saskia Popescu, a hospital epidemiologist and infectious disease expert in Arizona who wasn’t involved in the study. “This is not an excuse to let you go about and do whatever you want, especially if you’re symptomatic.”
Even the patrons of this particular salon may not have gotten off scot-free. For instance, some of the clients who didn’t get tested could have been harboring the virus in the absence of symptoms. And diagnostic tests, which search for coronavirus genetic material, can be faulty. The study also didn’t contact any clients the stylists had interacted with before they felt sick — a period during which the virus can still transmit to others.
Abuelezam also cautioned that the outcomes of Springfield’s Great Clips incident would not necessarily hold under other circumstances. “This is about short-term exposure, indoors,” she said. “We cannot generalize these results to a situation where people are spending prolonged periods of time indoors together.”
A hint of that may even come from the first stylist’s behaviors: It’s very likely that she inadvertently passed the infection to the second Great Clips employee during several unmasked encounters, Findley said. (She also may have transmitted the virus to three family members — presumably also while maskless.)
Even with some protection, co-workers who spend much of their day together may have a much harder time minimizing transmission, Popescu said.
As discussions on exposure continue, she added, “We can’t just focus on employee to client, or patient to health care worker, or teacher to student. We also need to discuss what’s happening between employees.”
Still, “I hope this encourages people to take masks more seriously,” Abuelezam said. “Clearly, they have a purpose.”
aaron17 wrote:So 150 venez entered tnt ...and they cannot find them. One of them bound to have covid.
Illegal immigrants held in Aranguez raid
SHANE SUPERVILLE AN HOUR AGO
SHANE SUPERVILLE
A group of illegal immigrants were arrested in Aranguez on Thursday night.
Police said members of the North Eastern Division Task Force, the El Socorro CID and other units went to a house at John Dulam Street, Aranguez, at around 8 pm, when they found 17 Venezuelans.
Police said none of the people had any documents.
They were taken to the El Socorro Police Station and were expected to be handed over to officials from the Immigration Division on Friday morning.
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3 new cases from a group that returned from Grenada
Gladiator wrote:K74T wrote:FB_IMG_1594996013763.jpeg
3 new cases from a group that returned from Grenada
This is very concerning since Grenada reporting 23 cases of which 23 recovered so there is none there!!!
Gladiator wrote:K74T wrote:FB_IMG_1594996013763.jpeg
3 new cases from a group that returned from Grenada
This is very concerning since Grenada reporting 23 cases of which 23 recovered so there is none there!!!
redmanjp wrote:if anyone has contact with any venes legal or not tell them to tell these ppl who just came in to isolate themselves- or get ready for the 2nd wave!
sMASH wrote:gg say they being flexible for the election period. so, like covid will go away for a while and come back after elections.
wtf we really doing as a country?
the govt feeding we a pack a bullcrap, and the citizens regurgitating the same bullcrap.
this is a classic case of the emperor's new clothes.
jhonnieblue wrote:Agreed. All election campaigning should be cancelled. It's dumb and unnecessary risks.sMASH wrote:gg say they being flexible for the election period. so, like covid will go away for a while and come back after elections.
wtf we really doing as a country?
the govt feeding we a pack a bullcrap, and the citizens regurgitating the same bullcrap.
this is a classic case of the emperor's new clothes.
MaxPower wrote:redmanjp wrote:if anyone has contact with any venes legal or not tell them to tell these ppl who just came in to isolate themselves- or get ready for the 2nd wave!
Hello redmanjp,
No need to tell them anything.
They have already proven to the citizens of T&T how disciplined they are in fighting this pandemic.
Allyuh dont worry about the Venes, they have it under control.
When the borders open is the Trinis we have to worry about infecting the Venes.
Remember Trinis are stink and no nothing about hygiene.
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