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Re: PNM in Gov't -AH WHOLE 4 YEARS LATER!!!!!

Postby sMASH » February 5th, 2020, 9:23 pm

if a normal voter made that accusation, or allegation, no problem. but not the MoNS and not the AG. they not supposed to allege, they supposed to come out and say, 'this man is being investigated' and 'this man is being charged'.

'blame' is not enough, i need charges and convictions. anything else is just ole talk.
and without any charges and convictions, what is the legal difference between him and u?

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Postby pugboy » February 5th, 2020, 9:42 pm

what cases ferris have in the courts against former pp with any traction ?
The only one I know which made any progress is the follow money one with embd

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Postby hydroep » February 5th, 2020, 10:26 pm

pugboy wrote:what cases ferris have in the courts against former pp with any traction ?
The only one I know which made any progress is the follow money one with embd


Far-arse win any cases as AG for anything of worth? With his track record dem "UNC Criminals" eh have nothing to worry about. Wouldn't be surprised if the State/taxpayers have to pay their legal bills too...:|

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Postby pugboy » February 6th, 2020, 4:32 am

What is latest with the polymer cases

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Postby one eye » February 6th, 2020, 12:30 pm

Zoom rader contributes nothing but anti PNM propaganda.

He is a paid UNC blogger. He sits down all day at home and makes his money spamming forums with blatant bigotry.

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Postby Dizzy28 » February 6th, 2020, 12:45 pm

one eye wrote:Zoom rader contributes nothing but anti PNM propaganda.

He is a paid UNC blogger. He sits down all day at home and makes his money spamming forums with blatant bigotry.


Except Zoom actually did provide a pic once of himself (no face showing) on an offshore platform holding up a sign saying Suck it RASC or something like that.

Whats your job Brown Eye?

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Postby Kickstart » February 6th, 2020, 2:06 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
one eye wrote:Zoom rader contributes nothing but anti PNM propaganda.

He is a paid UNC blogger. He sits down all day at home and makes his money spamming forums with blatant bigotry.


Except Zoom actually did provide a pic once of himself (no face showing) on an offshore platform holding up a sign saying Suck it RASC or something like that.

Whats your job Brown Eye?


think this the pic

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=566487&start=7230

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Postby Ben_spanna » February 6th, 2020, 2:16 pm

while the previous government may have had its fair share of corruption, you should also note that when ministers were acucused of wrong doing and as the saying goes, "where there was smoke there was fire" quite a few of her cabinet were removed from office ... yes it was a hilarious and rather frequent happening, but with this present bunch, just look at some of the accusations that some of their members have had against them.. and what??? 10 day memory??? At least with the UNcle there seemed to have some sort of justice... but then again none of their children ever held guns and none of them ever used tax payers $$ to romance and then deny and there was no fake oil then in the ground , paying their own families for land aquisition while others were put out and offered unfair renumeration ................... hell of a comparison.......... at the end of the day BOTH parties are full of corruption and if we continue to defend each side out of sheer race and tribal custom our country will never ever change for the better for our children ................
The mere issue that police and politicians know exactly who are involved in the underworld and sit and do nothing and say that their hands are tied should be a clear indication that we are fukved ...if politicians really wanted to change this country they CAN but they dont want to.

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Re: PNM in Gov't -AH WHOLE 4 YEARS LATER!!!!!

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » February 6th, 2020, 2:48 pm

one eye wrote:Zoom rader contributes nothing but anti PNM propaganda.

He is a paid UNC blogger. He sits down all day at home and makes his money spamming forums with blatant bigotry.


and I guess you're the PNM version of ZR

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Postby pugboy » February 6th, 2020, 3:17 pm

ah find since the man on ban allyuh come out to bat

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Postby maj. tom » February 6th, 2020, 3:40 pm

Zoom here since 2003. Those are the early days before some of us here even get dial-up TSTT.

Men like pioneer come and gone like sheit stain nobodies that nobody remember.
Zoom still stay true and straight to his cause. Which man cannot admire those traits in another man, despite whatever beliefs?

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Postby Dizzy28 » February 6th, 2020, 3:54 pm

maj. tom wrote:Zoom here since 2003. Those are the early days before some of us here even get dial-up TSTT.

Men like pioneer come and gone like sheit stain nobodies that nobody remember.
Zoom still stay true and straight to his cause. Which man cannot admire those traits in another man, despite whatever beliefs?


Not to throw off this thread...but as you raise Pioneer the original thread last week that CJ Ruckus posted went missing overnight and a 4 year old thread on Pioneer's whereabouts was bumped but then also went missing. Pioneer is like the sacred cow of Tuner.

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Postby maj. tom » February 6th, 2020, 3:56 pm

nah nah that was a blatant planted thread by pioneer and pals because they just wanted attention. Man come and telling we he phone sex stories with pioneer at 3am as if anybody here give a sheit. Mods cleaned it up one time.

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Postby bluefete » February 6th, 2020, 4:54 pm

Wait. You only join last year and you could pull out pic from 5 years ago from an election thread? And know exactly where to find it too.

Kickstart wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
one eye wrote:Zoom rader contributes nothing but anti PNM propaganda.

He is a paid UNC blogger. He sits down all day at home and makes his money spamming forums with blatant bigotry.


Except Zoom actually did provide a pic once of himself (no face showing) on an offshore platform holding up a sign saying Suck it RASC or something like that.

Whats your job Brown Eye?


think this the pic Image

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=566487&start=7230

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Re: PNM in Gov't -AH WHOLE 4 YEARS LATER!!!!!

Postby sMASH » February 6th, 2020, 7:12 pm

one eye wrote:Zoom rader contributes nothing but anti PNM propaganda.

He is a paid UNC blogger. He sits down all day at home and makes his money spamming forums with blatant bigotry.

all u does contribute is a suction action on growlers, then come to reminisce ur session here.

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Postby pugboy » February 6th, 2020, 7:24 pm

Tuners of long standing 10-15yrs or more should be unbannable

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Postby Ben_spanna » February 7th, 2020, 12:47 pm

And yet Another small business in the area is closing its doors end of February..... has been in existence for the past 14 years, but as things get harder economically , its just another one bites the dust for our leaders i guess.... :roll:

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Postby The_Honourable » February 7th, 2020, 1:29 pm

I wonder if balisier house and the pnm financiers will help out juliet davy...

Mirror, Juliet Davy must pay Moonilal $.5m

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A now-defunct weekly newspaper and a political activist who freelanced with it have been ordered to pay Oropouche East MP Dr Roodal Moonilal a little over $.5 million in compensation for defamation.

On Thursday Justice Robin Mohammed ordered the Mirror Group Publication and Juliet Davy to pay for the publication of two defamatory articles published back in 2016.

In his decision, Mohammed said he found “without hesitation” the words contained in the two articles, published in the Mirror on May 27, 2016, and June 3, 2016, were defamatory.

In them, Davy accused the former housing minister of becoming one of the richest people in TT through corruption.

The columns referred to a list published by website imgur.com, which claimed to identify the 25 richest people in TT. Moonilal appeared fourth on the list, which estimated his personal fortune at $2.58 billion.

Moonilal claimed the re-publication of the erroneous information caused irreparable harm and distress to his professional reputation.

In their defence, the Mirror and Davy admitted to the publication but denied

Defence admitted the publication but denied the words were defamatory or that they contained false allegations in the form of direct statements, or innuendoes on and concerning Moonilal. They advanced a defence of honest comment, made without malice on a matter of public interest premised on Moonilal's being named on the list.

Davy only said she was doing her “journalistic duties” and acted responsibly.

In his decision, Mohammed said the words published “undoubtedly created the impression” of Moonilal being a politician who had amassed unexplainable wealth within a short space of time, and at a time when he was a parliamentarian and not a businessman or heir to a throne.

“It leaves the impression on the minds of ordinary readers that the claimant as a politician is of a corrupt nature or how else would he explain such wealth,” the judge said.

He also issued a warning to journalists: “It cannot be that persons who regard themselves as professional journalists, and acknowledge a professional duty to professional responsibility, would write articles based on a document found disseminating on the Internet without first seeking to verify its contents.

“While freedom of speech is a pillar of every democratic society, with this freedom comes the onus of responsibility; a responsibility that journalists ought to regard with upmost severity, particularly when articles are contained in a weekly paper,” he added.

Moonilal was represented by attorneys Larry Lalla and Vivek Lakhan-Joseph. Attorneys Michael Quamina and Gitanjali Gopeesingh represented the Mirror Group and Davy.

Source: https://newsday.co.tt/2020/02/06/mirror ... onilal-5m/

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Re: PNM in Gov't -AH WHOLE 4 YEARS LATER!!!!!

Postby Dizzy28 » February 7th, 2020, 1:32 pm

Michael Quamina lost against UNC.................shock!!!
Seems the had quiet the track record against them

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Postby bluefete » February 7th, 2020, 2:31 pm

An American compnay with a subsidiary based in Trinidad for many years, closed down very quietly on 31/12/2019 and sent everyone home. It was staffed by about 12 people.

Add up those small numbers a thousand fold and you will get an idea as to how many small businesses have clsoed since the PNM got into office in 2015.


Ben_spanna wrote:And yet Another small business in the area is closing its doors end of February..... has been in existence for the past 14 years, but as things get harder economically , its just another one bites the dust for our leaders i guess.... :roll:

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Postby De Dragon » February 8th, 2020, 12:18 pm

eliteauto wrote:
Gladiator wrote:
eliteauto wrote:What does the ethnicity of a moderator have to do with the forum and the party in power?


From the forum chatter it seems as though persons are insinuating that there is a correlation between race/political affiliation and the mods, sooo if Govt change, wont we have the same mods? Would Zoom still be banned and Oneye be left to roam or will that change?


Ahhh gotcha, well the moderators aren't appointed by the Gov't nor have they changed with election results, further the ethnicity of mods nor their actual or perceived political beliefs has nothing to do with how the forum rules are enforced, the perception that one user gets banned and another roams free based on any allegiance is the perception of the user and he/she is free to have any perception they feel. I saw the post made by one eye about Hindus, is it that some of you feel Hinduism is a race? Or are Hindus sacrosanct and above the derision meted out to others like "PNM people" "PNM Hindus (SWAHA) or "Jumped Up House Negros", seems many are fine with those. So since I'm strongly labelled a PNM is it ok for me to refer to Jumped Up Bush C0olies? Surely you're cool with that right?
You see perception is a hell of a thing and my perception is many of you are espousing a narrative that I hear and see often but I usually ignore, Zoom makes many posts until someone gets annoyed and bans him and suddenly Spann and others take up a Senior Counsel role to free him but offended by the freedom of one eye that's hypocritical. BTW what is the ethnicity of the majority of mods here? What's the ethnicity of the mod who banned Zoom?

doth protest too much, methinks

In your haste to mount your sanctimonious and feigned outrage of convenience soapbox, you neglected to (once again) acknowledge that the source of the first part of my JUHN Scarfy nickname for our utterly failed PM is Malcolm X and the context in which he used it is quite clear.
Secondly, what would you like me to refer to negroes as? Is that not the proper terminology?
Thirdly, if you did use the term Jumped Up Bush C0olies, then you would indeed be racist, as the proper term would be Jumped Up Bush Indians.

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Postby The_Honourable » February 8th, 2020, 8:20 pm

The_Honourable wrote:I wonder if balisier house and the pnm financiers will help out juliet davy...

Mirror, Juliet Davy must pay Moonilal $.5m

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A now-defunct weekly newspaper and a political activist who freelanced with it have been ordered to pay Oropouche East MP Dr Roodal Moonilal a little over $.5 million in compensation for defamation.

On Thursday Justice Robin Mohammed ordered the Mirror Group Publication and Juliet Davy to pay for the publication of two defamatory articles published back in 2016.

In his decision, Mohammed said he found “without hesitation” the words contained in the two articles, published in the Mirror on May 27, 2016, and June 3, 2016, were defamatory.

In them, Davy accused the former housing minister of becoming one of the richest people in TT through corruption.

The columns referred to a list published by website imgur.com, which claimed to identify the 25 richest people in TT. Moonilal appeared fourth on the list, which estimated his personal fortune at $2.58 billion.

Moonilal claimed the re-publication of the erroneous information caused irreparable harm and distress to his professional reputation.

In their defence, the Mirror and Davy admitted to the publication but denied

Defence admitted the publication but denied the words were defamatory or that they contained false allegations in the form of direct statements, or innuendoes on and concerning Moonilal. They advanced a defence of honest comment, made without malice on a matter of public interest premised on Moonilal's being named on the list.

Davy only said she was doing her “journalistic duties” and acted responsibly.

In his decision, Mohammed said the words published “undoubtedly created the impression” of Moonilal being a politician who had amassed unexplainable wealth within a short space of time, and at a time when he was a parliamentarian and not a businessman or heir to a throne.

“It leaves the impression on the minds of ordinary readers that the claimant as a politician is of a corrupt nature or how else would he explain such wealth,” the judge said.

He also issued a warning to journalists: “It cannot be that persons who regard themselves as professional journalists, and acknowledge a professional duty to professional responsibility, would write articles based on a document found disseminating on the Internet without first seeking to verify its contents.

“While freedom of speech is a pillar of every democratic society, with this freedom comes the onus of responsibility; a responsibility that journalists ought to regard with upmost severity, particularly when articles are contained in a weekly paper,” he added.

Moonilal was represented by attorneys Larry Lalla and Vivek Lakhan-Joseph. Attorneys Michael Quamina and Gitanjali Gopeesingh represented the Mirror Group and Davy.

Source: https://newsday.co.tt/2020/02/06/mirror ... onilal-5m/


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Postby D Diesel Report » February 8th, 2020, 11:47 pm

Allyuh, how many seats we feel PNM winning this rounds boy? :drinking: :drinking:

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Postby Gladiator » February 9th, 2020, 12:53 am

The only seat they deserve...
D Diesel Report wrote:Allyuh, how many seats we feel PNM winning this rounds boy? :drinking: :drinking:

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Postby hydroep » February 9th, 2020, 6:25 am

...dunno if Juliet realises it, but she just proved everything (and more) in the judgement against her with that rant...she even casting aspersions on the integrity of the Judiciary yes....:|

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The_Honourable wrote:I wonder if balisier house and the pnm financiers will help out juliet davy...

Mirror, Juliet Davy must pay Moonilal $.5m

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A now-defunct weekly newspaper and a political activist who freelanced with it have been ordered to pay Oropouche East MP Dr Roodal Moonilal a little over $.5 million in compensation for defamation.

On Thursday Justice Robin Mohammed ordered the Mirror Group Publication and Juliet Davy to pay for the publication of two defamatory articles published back in 2016.

In his decision, Mohammed said he found “without hesitation” the words contained in the two articles, published in the Mirror on May 27, 2016, and June 3, 2016, were defamatory.

In them, Davy accused the former housing minister of becoming one of the richest people in TT through corruption.

The columns referred to a list published by website <a class="vglnk" href="http://imgur.com" rel="nofollow"><span>imgur</span><span>.</span><span>com</span></a>, which claimed to identify the 25 richest people in TT. Moonilal appeared fourth on the list, which estimated his personal fortune at $2.58 billion.

Moonilal claimed the re-publication of the erroneous information caused irreparable harm and distress to his professional reputation.

In their defence, the Mirror and Davy admitted to the publication but denied

Defence admitted the publication but denied the words were defamatory or that they contained false allegations in the form of direct statements, or innuendoes on and concerning Moonilal. They advanced a defence of honest comment, made without malice on a matter of public interest premised on Moonilal's being named on the list.

Davy only said she was doing her “journalistic duties” and acted responsibly.

In his decision, Mohammed said the words published “undoubtedly created the impression” of Moonilal being a politician who had amassed unexplainable wealth within a short space of time, and at a time when he was a parliamentarian and not a businessman or heir to a throne.

“It leaves the impression on the minds of ordinary readers that the claimant as a politician is of a corrupt nature or how else would he explain such wealth,” the judge said.

He also issued a warning to journalists: “It cannot be that persons who regard themselves as professional journalists, and acknowledge a professional duty to professional responsibility, would write articles based on a document found disseminating on the Internet without first seeking to verify its contents.

“While freedom of speech is a pillar of every democratic society, with this freedom comes the onus of responsibility; a responsibility that journalists ought to regard with upmost severity, particularly when articles are contained in a weekly paper,” he added.

Moonilal was represented by attorneys Larry Lalla and Vivek Lakhan-Joseph. Attorneys Michael Quamina and Gitanjali Gopeesingh represented the Mirror Group and Davy.

Source: https://newsday.co.tt/2020/02/06/mirror-juliet-davy-must-pay-moonilal-5m/

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » February 9th, 2020, 8:04 am

D Diesel Report wrote:Allyuh, how many seats we feel PNM winning this rounds boy? :drinking: :drinking:


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Postby 16 cycles » February 9th, 2020, 5:04 pm

Even with court ruling against her, doesnt mean much as she has nothing to lose so can continue...plus fuel from other players who can gain from the pappyshow...

Nice move ...

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Postby De Dragon » February 9th, 2020, 5:24 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Michael Quamina lost against UNC.................shock!!!
Seems the had quiet the track record against them

Jokes on you, he won Petrotrin..........

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Postby death365 » February 10th, 2020, 9:03 am

A BUSINESS survey conducted by American Chamber of Commerce (Amcham) together with EY, in December, revealed that professionals continue to leave for better opportunities abroad, and that there is "scant" medium-term confidence in the TT dollar.

According to World Bank figures, TT now ranks 105th (out of 190 countries) in the world for ease of doing business, a considerable dip from 80th (out of 181 countries) in 2009.

TT struggles mostly in the endorsement of contracts, paying taxes and registering property, languishing in 174th, 160th and 158th spot, respectively, and well within the bottom 30 per cent of countries.

TT is only ranked among the top 30 per cent of countries in terms of getting electricity, sitting 43rd.

EY partner Zack Nadur relayed the findings at Amcham's 2020 Economic Outlook Forum last Thursday. The survey was conducted with the input of local executives from 19 industries.

The results were categorised into themes: appetite for investment, foreign exchange, outlook and emigration.

Amcham president Patricia Ghany, in her presentation, addressed the data and the implications for business development and investment, saying that certain aspects remain worrying. She was certain, however, that the business community in TT remains committed to realising a vision for the country.


Amcham TT president Patricia Ghany. -
"You might think – in the face of that data – it’s ridiculous to imagine a society that’s safe and fair, innovative and dynamic. But the opposite is in fact true," said Ghany.

"It is because of this data, these outcomes, that we need to do better. We say, if we can’t even imagine our ideal society then we will never be able to build it. We need to define and work toward our vision of the future more than ever before. We need to believe that we can be agents of change. We need to act to turn that vision into a reality. I have no doubt that the business community in TT is committed to this cause.

In fact, she said, the results of the survey show exactly how committed the business community is to our country.

Speaking on TT's economic outlook, Ghany said crime and ease of doing business statistics remain worrying, but with a vision and collaboration, the country can do an about-turn like the city of Medellin, Colombia did over the span of about two decades.

"In 1993, Time magazine named Colombia’s Medellin the most dangerous city on earth. Just 20 years later, in 2013, Medellin was celebrated as the most innovative city in the world by the Urban Land Institute. A city once known for cocaine and murder is now known for entrepreneurship and innovation. If Medellin can transform, so can we," she said.

What's needed is more collaboration at the political level. "We understand that politics involves some level of one-upmanship and we are not utopian in our thinking to believe that all decisions will be made by putting politics aside but surely, some big decisions can be made. Some consensus can be fostered."

A vision and plan for the country is a top factor in encouraging investment, she said, noting the results about the migration of professionals and moderate confidence in local currency.

"In the absence of a clear vision and, therefore, direction, we are reaping the havoc of virtually standing still. Our Caribbean neighbours, Jamaica, Guyana and Grenada are actively changing the structure of their economies and acting with a sense of purpose. So, we have to do better. Or, at least, do some things and stick to them. We say, if we can’t even imagine our ideal society then we will never be able to build it. We need to define and work toward our vision of the future more than ever before."

Proclaim procurement act, minus amendments

Ghany said Amcham was disappointed with Government's decision to proceed with proposed amendments to Section 7(2) of the Public Procurement Act – changes, the organisation believes, will leave much room for corruption.

The public procurement legislation is a powerful weapon in the fight against corruption and crime, she said, but warned that the proposed amendments will put the country in a "disadvantageous position."

"In order to have a society that is inclusive, safe and productive, we must also build a society that is fair and transparent.

"In such a society, opportunities would be available to everyone and not just to those who have the right connections. To this end, Amcham has repeatedly called for the full proclamation and operationalisation of the public procurement legislation."

The proposed amendments will limit the authority of the procurement regulator as it relates to public/private partnerships and government-to-government transactions.

"In order to build a truly fair and transparent society," Ghany continued, "we must have oversight over all institutions. Therefore, Amcham TT wholeheartedly supports our partners in the Private Sector/Civil Society Group (PSCSC) in calling for no amendments to section 7(2) of the act."

Finance Minister Colm Imbert said recently that the act will be implemented by the end of March, and introduced in Parliament "sometime in February."

Imbert's comments followed a public statement by the PSCSC, saying it was "deeply disturbed" by the non-op­er­a­tional­i­sa­tion of the act.

Ghany said the chamber believes there should be no more delays in the proclamation of sections in the act which do not require proclamation of regulations.

"We can all agree that we need a fair and transparent society – let’s put that vision into action. Let’s start building the society we want today."

Source: https://newsday.co.tt/2020/02/06/tt-at-a-standstill/

Not sure if this was discussed yet , u cant say either of these groups are PMN or UNC party groups. There are reputable international bodies.

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