COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[pugboy]

usa, brazil, india contributing .1m+ every day for a while now
and usa looking to reach 100k daily very soon

many of the countries in the top 40 have 3000+ cases per day
so it adds up

Swear it was 10M cases a few days ago. Now I seeing 12.2M

[Ben_spanna]

Now that they have let all those cruise ship detainees free, they are supposed to stay home and self quarantine a further week, if you know any of them and yuh see dem out before that week done, yuh haffi embarass them
loudly " AYE AYE I thought allyuh cruise ship corona people supposed to stay home" and yell it out loudly too!
Cant have dem going around if they supposed to be staying home .

[teems1]

All in areas Trinis flock to.

Florida and Texas are on the rise.

NYC had it bad but is slowly improving.

Given the exploding number of cases in USA, I dont see countries opening their borders to USA travel for a good few months at least

[redmanjp]

Now that they have let all those cruise ship detainees free, they are supposed to stay home and self quarantine a further week, if you know any of them and yuh see dem out before that week done, yuh haffi embarass them
loudly " AYE AYE I thought allyuh cruise ship corona people supposed to stay home" and yell it out loudly too!
Cant have dem going around if they supposed to be staying home .

how long were they in state quarantine after leaving the ship? supposed to be 2 weeks

[pugboy]

that ship was very suspect
they got positive cases at the 12 or 13 day point

so it seems that ship needed a good bleach out as it is a germ hotbed

or 14 days may not be long enough

[redmanjp]

so besides bleach & lysol, what locally available products actually approved to kill covid?

https://www.epa.gov/pesticide-registration/list-n-disinfectants-use-against-sars-cov-2-covid-19

[pugboy]

i’ve seen a number of companies advertising fogging sanitizing solutions using presumably commercial products safe for internal use

so besides bleach & lysol, what locally available products actually approved to kill covid?

https://www.epa.gov/pesticide-registration/list-n-disinfectants-use-against-sars-cov-2-covid-19

[redmanjp]

HCQ works when used early in treatment along with zinc- so are ppl dying needlessly for political reasons?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-saves-lives-180700975.html

New Study Shows That Hydroxychloroquine Saves Lives, States Association of American Physicians & Surgeons (AAPS)
PR Newswire PR NewswireJuly 7, 2020
TUCSON, Ariz., July 7, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- A just published peer-reviewed study from Henry Ford Health System showed that the death rate of hospitalized patients who received hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) was cut in half, and there were no serious heart abnormalities.


The Association of American Physicians & Surgeons (AAPS) stated that these results should encourage widespread early use of this long-established drug to fight COVID-19.

"HCQ impressively improved survival. In contrast, the government-favored drug remdesivir has only been shown to decrease survivors' hospital stay by four days, with no demonstrable improvement in survival," notes AAPS.

Even before the Henry Ford study, there was substantial evidence of HCQ benefit, especially when used very early in out-patients in combination with zinc, in a compilation of studies prior to April 20, a more recent compilation, and a preprint by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko and colleagues released July 3. Yale epidemiologist Harvey Risch, M.D., wrote that HCQ is an "early outpatient treatment of symptomatic, high-risk Covid-19 patients that should be ramped-up immediately as key to the pandemic crisis."

Based on flawed studies and pronouncements from government officials, doctors have hesitated to use HCQ because of claimed lack of proof of efficacy, or purported danger of cardiac arrhythmias. Two studies, in Lancet and NEJM, were retracted because of questionable data. A study from Brazil, published in JAMA, is under investigation because researchers were giving patients lethal doses of chloroquine.

Researchers have been using HCQ too late, when patients may already have COVID-caused heart damage, and overdosing patients, states AAPS.

"If HCQ saves half the patients who would have died in hospital, then withholding HCQ is causing tens of thousands of preventable deaths," states AAPS.

"The federal government has agreed to buy 500,000 doses of remdesivir at more than $3,000 per course of treatment, without proof that it will save lives. Why won't it release HCQ, which costs about $20 per course of treatment, from the Strategic National Stockpile, and stop prohibiting or discouraging its use?" asks AAPS.

"Patients are dying needlessly every day."

AAPS has filed for a preliminary injunction to stop interference by the FDA with patient access to HCQ, and to prevent the government from wasting the HCQ which was donated to its stockpile. This lawsuit is pending in federal court in Grand Rapids, Michigan, AAPS v. FDA, et al., 20-cv-493.

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) has represented physicians of all specialties in all states since 1943. The AAPS motto is omnia pro aegroto, meaning everything for the patient.

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SOURCE Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS)

[pugboy]

read the wikipedia page on AAPS

[redmanjp]

i’ve seen a number of companies advertising fogging sanitizing solutions using presumably commercial products safe for internal use

so besides bleach & lysol, what locally available products actually approved to kill covid?

https://www.epa.gov/pesticide-registration/list-n-disinfectants-use-against-sars-cov-2-covid-19

safe but effective? as in has an active ingredient on the EPA list?

[pugboy]

who knows, but they likely using imported chemicals as they all advertise safe for indoor use using hand held fogging machine

i’ve seen a number of companies advertising fogging sanitizing solutions using presumably commercial products safe for internal use

so besides bleach & lysol, what locally available products actually approved to kill covid?

https://www.epa.gov/pesticide-registration/list-n-disinfectants-use-against-sars-cov-2-covid-19

safe but effective? as in has an active ingredient on the EPA list?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

HCQ works when used early in treatment along with zinc- so are ppl dying needlessly for political reasons?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-saves-lives-180700975.html

New Study Shows That Hydroxychloroquine Saves Lives, States Association of American Physicians & Surgeons (AAPS)
PR Newswire PR NewswireJuly 7, 2020
TUCSON, Ariz., July 7, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- A just published peer-reviewed study from Henry Ford Health System showed that the death rate of hospitalized patients who received hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) was cut in half, and there were no serious heart abnormalities.


The Association of American Physicians & Surgeons (AAPS) stated that these results should encourage widespread early use of this long-established drug to fight COVID-19.

"HCQ impressively improved survival. In contrast, the government-favored drug remdesivir has only been shown to decrease survivors' hospital stay by four days, with no demonstrable improvement in survival," notes AAPS.

Even before the Henry Ford study, there was substantial evidence of HCQ benefit, especially when used very early in out-patients in combination with zinc, in a compilation of studies prior to April 20, a more recent compilation, and a preprint by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko and colleagues released July 3. Yale epidemiologist Harvey Risch, M.D., wrote that HCQ is an "early outpatient treatment of symptomatic, high-risk Covid-19 patients that should be ramped-up immediately as key to the pandemic crisis."

Based on flawed studies and pronouncements from government officials, doctors have hesitated to use HCQ because of claimed lack of proof of efficacy, or purported danger of cardiac arrhythmias. Two studies, in Lancet and NEJM, were retracted because of questionable data. A study from Brazil, published in JAMA, is under investigation because researchers were giving patients lethal doses of chloroquine.

Researchers have been using HCQ too late, when patients may already have COVID-caused heart damage, and overdosing patients, states AAPS.

"If HCQ saves half the patients who would have died in hospital, then withholding HCQ is causing tens of thousands of preventable deaths," states AAPS.

"The federal government has agreed to buy 500,000 doses of remdesivir at more than $3,000 per course of treatment, without proof that it will save lives. Why won't it release HCQ, which costs about $20 per course of treatment, from the Strategic National Stockpile, and stop prohibiting or discouraging its use?" asks AAPS.

"Patients are dying needlessly every day."

AAPS has filed for a preliminary injunction to stop interference by the FDA with patient access to HCQ, and to prevent the government from wasting the HCQ which was donated to its stockpile. This lawsuit is pending in federal court in Grand Rapids, Michigan, AAPS v. FDA, et al., 20-cv-493.

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) has represented physicians of all specialties in all states since 1943. The AAPS motto is omnia pro aegroto, meaning everything for the patient.

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SOURCE Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS)

PR Newswire is an expensive paid service that companies use to get Public Relations material out to the media usually as a form of native advertising.
So did AAPS pay prnewswire.com to publish that story?

if you search google for "aaps hydroxychloroquine" the top 5 results come from aapsonline.com and prnewswire.com only

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

I saw a clip on CNN the other day saying that Association of American Physicians & Surgeons is a far right conspiracy group who is known for pushing propaganda and fake news and that the group doesn't actually have anything to do with medicine or doctors etc

Could anybody confirm this?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

I saw a clip on CNN the other day saying that Association of American Physicians & Surgeons is a far right conspiracy group who is known for pushing propaganda and fake news and that the group doesn't actually have anything to do with medicine or doctors etc

Could anybody confirm this?

yes seems to be an association of crazies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associati ... d_Surgeons

In 1966, The New York Times described AAPS as an "ultra-right-wing... political-economic rather than a medical group," and said some of its leaders were members of the John Birch Society.[2]

In 2002, AAPS said that its members included Ron Paul and John Cooksey. Ron Paul's son, Rand Paul, was a member for over two decades until his election to the U.S. Senate

AAPS is generally recognized as politically conservative or ultra-conservative,[2][7] and its positions are unorthodox and at wide variance with federal health policy.[8]

[redmanjp]

so no vene getting deported for showing up for a test? at least that would encourage testing for anyone who comes in illegally

Key Points from the Ministry of Health’s Virtual Media Conference – Wednesday 8th July 2020

- Minister of Health, Terrence Deyalsingh stated that there is no firm date yet for the increase of the maximum number of persons able to gather in public.

- The Minister indicated that every resident of Trinidad and Tobago, legal or not can access testing for Covid-19.

- The Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Roshan Parasram, said that the 290 nationals from the Enchantment of the Seas Cruise Ship, who tested negative, were discharged into home quarantine for 7 days. Dr. Parasram also stated that these persons will be monitored from both the County Medical Officers of Health and the TTPS to ensure that they adhere to the Quarantine Regulations.

- Dr. Parasram indicated that the 45 students at the UWI Freedom Hall have received their negative tests and are set to be released today.

- The CMO said that the Ministry of Health has been collaborating with International Organizations to monitor migrant communities in T&T to ensure that any Covid-19 cases would be identified and treated.

- Director of Women’s Health at the Ministry of Health, Dr. Adesh Sirjusingh, advised nursing/pregnant women that breast feeding is safe for the baby even if the mother has Covid-19.

- Dr. Sirjusingh also pointed out that only 3 out of 5 women go in for health checks in the first half of their pregnancy and advised all pregnant women to see a doctor as early as possible.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

I saw a clip on CNN the other day saying that Association of American Physicians & Surgeons is a far right conspiracy group who is known for pushing propaganda and fake news and that the group doesn't actually have anything to do with medicine or doctors etc

Could anybody confirm this?

yes seems to be an association of crazies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associati ... d_Surgeons

In 1966, The New York Times described AAPS as an "ultra-right-wing... political-economic rather than a medical group," and said some of its leaders were members of the John Birch Society.[2]

In 2002, AAPS said that its members included Ron Paul and John Cooksey. Ron Paul's son, Rand Paul, was a member for over two decades until his election to the U.S. Senate

AAPS is generally recognized as politically conservative or ultra-conservative,[2][7] and its positions are unorthodox and at wide variance with federal health policy.[8]

Fun Fact I never saw that on CNN and no such clip exists if you search for it and I never reviewed anything regarding this association, that statement I made was made up and the reason I said that is because peer reviewed studies by scientists found literally no benefit to taking hydroxychloroquine, therefore it would be insane for any group to claim that it would cut the death rate in half.

And historically any group that pushes this level of rubbish is a corrupt group that has some form of ties to right wingers the same ones who believes the earth is flat. And the reason they push fake news like this is because they are affiliated with companies that sell hydroxychloroquine. They want to see stocks go up in companies producing hydroxychloroquine, buy stocks on the low then use power to push fake news and sell stocks when it gets high easy profit.

How these people operate is they make up a fancy name "American Insert X of Association" Number 1 recommended and they push that onto the public to gain the trust of the public. It comes across soooo legitimate, but you know it's a scam as soon as you see peer reviewed studies showing the drug is worthless for Covid. As a matter of fact there is no reason that any drug developed prior to Covid would ever be useful for curing Covid.

Insider trading is supposed to be a criminal offense but it doesn't appear that these people can be charged or perhaps the method they use isn't considered insider trading.

Either way this group like many of its kind are right wing conspiracy groups setup to control stock prices. Same reason Trump always pushing hydroxychloroquine conspiracy nonsense, he stands to profit from it.

[redmanjp]

Now that they have let all those cruise ship detainees free, they are supposed to stay home and self quarantine a further week, if you know any of them and yuh see dem out before that week done, yuh haffi embarass them
loudly " AYE AYE I thought allyuh cruise ship corona people supposed to stay home" and yell it out loudly too!
Cant have dem going around if they supposed to be staying home .

how long were they in state quarantine after leaving the ship? supposed to be 2 weeks

The risks with this home quarantine is that some of them go get frustrated with having to stay inside and will sneak out. But even if they don't do that what about their family members in the same house? They can become infected and if they are not subject to the quarantine rule then they will go out in public and spread the virus. I hope they get tested as well.

[matr1x]

Bring in the second wave!!!!!!

[Ben_spanna]

Florida is in ab absolute frigging mess- All 50 hospital ICU's filled to capacity and more cases by the thousands! Califorina also cant handle the current cases in critical....
US is going to be a disaster country for a while again..... we definitely dont want any coming and going from there..

[De Dragon]

Florida is in ab absolute frigging mess- All 50 hospital ICU's filled to capacity and more cases by the thousands! Califorina also cant handle the current cases in critical....
US is going to be a disaster country for a while again..... we definitely dont want any coming and going from there..

Yet these dummies her like Overpriced Cake Spacey Teeth talking about carnival as usual!

[paid_influencer]

While 29 states saw an increase in new cases compared to last week, Miami-Dade County in Florida on Friday reported a staggering 28% positivity rate, or the percentage of people tested who test positive for the coronavirus.

Mayor Carlos Gimenez's office said the goal is to not exceed a positivity rate of 10%, but the county has exceeded the 18% mark for the past 14 days. On Thursday, it was 33.5%.

Over the past 13 days, hospitalizations in Miami-Dade County have gone up by 74%, the number of beds in intensive care units being used has increased by 88% and the use of ventilators has soared by 123%, according to the latest data from the county government.

"The situation is really concerning here in South Florida," Dr. David De La Zerda, the lead ICU physician at Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, told CNN on Friday. "All the health care workers have a huge burden."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/10/heal ... index.html

one in three tests being positive is... not good.

most skybox addresses are in that area as well. Sanitize yo shiet when it reach down folks.

[Dohplaydat]

Covid-19 cases are rising drastically all over the world including right here in the Caribbean like DR and Venezuela reporting hundreds of cases daily and DR over 1000 daily.

In many populous countries around the world Covid cases are rising exponentially......we're on our way to having 500K new cases daily

[pugboy]

yeah the vene situation getting worse and we not even sure they doing proper testing

[redmanjp]

While 29 states saw an increase in new cases compared to last week, Miami-Dade County in Florida on Friday reported a staggering 28% positivity rate, or the percentage of people tested who test positive for the coronavirus.

Mayor Carlos Gimenez's office said the goal is to not exceed a positivity rate of 10%, but the county has exceeded the 18% mark for the past 14 days. On Thursday, it was 33.5%.

Over the past 13 days, hospitalizations in Miami-Dade County have gone up by 74%, the number of beds in intensive care units being used has increased by 88% and the use of ventilators has soared by 123%, according to the latest data from the county government.

"The situation is really concerning here in South Florida," Dr. David De La Zerda, the lead ICU physician at Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, told CNN on Friday. "All the health care workers have a huge burden."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/10/heal ... index.html

one in three tests being positive is... not good.

most skybox addresses are in that area as well. Sanitize yo shiet when it reach down folks.

33%? that is worse than New York when it was the epicenter- the antibody tests showed 20% but that measures who had it- not who currently had it when tested

what about Texas? have a brother there and he wife pregnant which the CDC just said is now considered high risk

[pugboy]

skybox companies turnaround is a couple days to Trinidad

could very well be a cause for concern as some say the virus can survive 72hours on surfaces esp if humid ie florida

[MaxPower]

yeah the vene situation getting worse and we not even sure they doing proper testing

How exactly worse bro?

Venes practicing good SD and hygiene measures unlike Trinis.

The Vene situation forever getting worse, i hearing that song years now...


Where are the Vene cases?

[K74T]

[Dohplaydat]

yeah the vene situation getting worse and we not even sure they doing proper testing

How exactly worse bro?

Venes practicing good SD and hygiene measures unlike Trinis.

The Vene situation forever getting worse, i hearing that song years now...


Where are the Vene cases?

We talking about in Venezuela bro

It's just a matter of time before an infected vene land in Trinidad and then via bars, hoes or other workers it spreads throughout the country.

[pugboy]

And u think they testing in them far out places where they taking boat to come across here?

[paid_influencer]

It's just a matter of time before an infected vene land in Trinidad and then via bars, hoes or other workers it spreads throughout the country.

also malls. Gulf City today packed to the brim today and plenty spanish speaking families in the mix. Seriously looking like Christmas levels crowds today. Was going to check out Victoria Secret but I not taking that chance nah.

Amitabh Bachchan get it, in hospital.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/11/ente ... index.html