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pugboy wrote:pressure will start mounting soon with airlines scratching and losing millions every week.
CAL says they lost $96m last few months.
How long can the govt absorb that loss ?
Not to mention foreign airlines gonna put pressure to be able to get back into here.
redmanjp wrote:^ some other islands are opening so flights there would resume- and perhaps new covid infections as well
ppl think they can just ignore this virus & open up completely and all will be well- covid doh care about the economy- if we let it spread unchecked, hospitalizations & deaths will skyrocket and then people will not feel safe to shop so the economy will be affected either way
what can possibly be done is only have flights from countries with very low levels of infection but have travellers quarantine on arrival at a hotel or something- maybe using gps trackers
sMASH wrote:pugboy wrote:pressure will start mounting soon with airlines scratching and losing millions every week.
CAL says they lost $96m last few months.
How long can the govt absorb that loss ?
Not to mention foreign airlines gonna put pressure to be able to get back into here.
me, i find they should have let go every body. when u ready to reopen for tourism, then u rehire every body... just pay a maintenance staff to keep the mechanical and electrical turning over.
Dohplaydat wrote:sMASH wrote:pugboy wrote:pressure will start mounting soon with airlines scratching and losing millions every week.
CAL says they lost $96m last few months.
How long can the govt absorb that loss ?
Not to mention foreign airlines gonna put pressure to be able to get back into here.
me, i find they should have let go every body. when u ready to reopen for tourism, then u rehire every body... just pay a maintenance staff to keep the mechanical and electrical turning over.
You not far off from what CAL might be considering, Covid has changed the landscape entirely and even when borders reopen there will be a huge reduction in travel thus needing a massive reorganization and layoffs
sMASH wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:sMASH wrote:pugboy wrote:pressure will start mounting soon with airlines scratching and losing millions every week.
CAL says they lost $96m last few months.
How long can the govt absorb that loss ?
Not to mention foreign airlines gonna put pressure to be able to get back into here.
me, i find they should have let go every body. when u ready to reopen for tourism, then u rehire every body... just pay a maintenance staff to keep the mechanical and electrical turning over.
You not far off from what CAL might be considering, Covid has changed the landscape entirely and even when borders reopen there will be a huge reduction in travel thus needing a massive reorganization and layoffs
from the time borders was to go closed lock down, u understood that flying was going to be dead. it did not make sense bailing it out.
what would have made sense is buying some shares or paying some fees to some other carrier to service the FEW flights we will need. when the routes pick back up enough, which might be next year, earliest christmas, then u resume the CAL.
redmanjp wrote:perhaps they can renegotiate those leases? i mean these are unprecedented times
Dohplaydat wrote:redmanjp wrote:perhaps they can renegotiate those leases? i mean these are unprecedented times
Heard through a CAL grapevine that they were exploring a London Heathrow Gate as well as a Frankfurt gate to open up a Caribbean gateway as many other big airlines (BA, Virgin) were cutting back.
Dohplaydat wrote:redmanjp wrote:perhaps they can renegotiate those leases? i mean these are unprecedented times
Heard through a CAL grapevine that they were exploring a London Heathrow Gate as well as a Frankfurt gate to open up a Caribbean gateway as many other big airlines (BA, Virgin) were cutting back.
matr1x wrote:And there are idiots were pushing increased tourism sector.......
Mutation could make coronavirus more infectious, study suggests
By Maggie Fox, CNN
Updated 0129 GMT (0929 HKT) June 13, 2020
(CNN)Researchers in Florida say they believe they have shown that the new coronavirus has mutated in a way that makes it more easily infect human cells.
They say more research is needed to show whether the change has altered the course of the pandemic, but at least one researcher not involved in the study says it likely has, and the changes may explain why the virus has caused so many infections in the United States and Latin America.
It's a mutation that scientists have been worried about for weeks.
The researchers at the Scripps Research Institute in Florida said the mutation affects the spike protein -- a structure on the outside of the virus that it uses to get into cells. If the findings are confirmed, it would be the first time someone has demonstrated that changes seen in the virus have significance for the pandemic.
"Viruses with this mutation were much more infectious than those without the mutation in the cell culture system we used," Scripps Research virologist Hyeryun Choe, who helped lead the study, said in a statement.
Just this week, the World Health Organization said the mutations seen so far in the new coronavirus would not affect the efficacy of vaccines under development. Last week, WHO said mutations had not made it more easily transmissible, nor had they made the virus more likely to cause serious illness.
A more stable spike protein
Choe and colleagues ran a series of experiments in lab dishes that show a mutation called D614G gives the virus many more spikes, and makes those spikes more stable. That in turn make it easier for it to get into cells. The researchers will post their findings on a preprint server called BioRxiv. That means the work has not been reviewed by other experts in the field.
But Choe and colleagues did send their paper to William Haseltine, a virologist, biotechnology entrepreneur and chairman of Access Health International. Haseltine believes the findings explain the easy spread of the coronavirus across the Americas.
"It is significant because it shows the virus can change, does change to its advantage and possibly to our disadvantage," Haseltine told CNN. "It has done a good job so far of adapting to human culture," he added.
"You can see in some places it doesn't get very far and in other places it has a field day."
Scientists have been freely sharing the sequences of the virus which, like all viruses, mutates constantly. "Sometime in the middle of January, there was a change that allowed the virus to become more infectious. It doesn't mean it's more lethal," Haseltine said. "It makes it about 10 times more infectious."
Other researchers have suspected this. In April, Bette Korber of Los Alamos National Laboratory and colleagues published their concerns, also on BioRxiv, calling the D614G mutation "of urgent concern" because it had become by far the most common strain spreading in Europe and the US.
Dominant strain
"It began spreading in Europe in early February, and when introduced to new regions it rapidly becomes the dominant form," they wrote.
But more work was needed to show that it just wasn't an accident that caused viruses with the D614G mutation to become the most common forms.
Haseltine said the Scripps team showed this in three separate experiments.
"They measured this in three very elegant ways, not just one," he said.
The mutation allows the virus not only to attach to cells more easily, but to enter them more easily.
When viruses infect, they hijack their victim's cells and turn them into viral factories, pumping out copy after copy of viruses. They first must find a way into cells to do this.
Korber, who has a different analysis under consideration for publication, said "it was nice to see the result," but did not comment further to CNN.
Haseltine said the implications are important. Other researchers had hoped that the coronavirus would not prove to be as prone to mutation as other viruses that use RNA instead of DNA as their genetic material. Influenza, notorious for its mutations, is an RNA virus.
"It means that we have to be on the alert for constant change," Haseltine said.
"This virus is going to respond to whatever we do to control it. We make a drug, it is going to resist it. We make a vaccine, it is going to try to get around it. We stay at home, it is going to figure out how to hang around longer," he said.
[Antigua and Barbuda has recorded 39 new cases of covid-19. The news comes just two days after Health Minister Molwyn Joseph told the nation that Antigua and Barbuda was "essentially covid free" with no active cases.
Results of the new positive cases are believed to have been received last night. All 39 are said to be imported cases.
Among them are returning nationals who were recently repatriated from the Dominican Republic. All 39 are believed to be in quarantine.
The new cases takes the total of confirmed cases for the country to 65.
We anticipate details will be revealed in a press conference later today.
Nearly 25 million Americans may have contracted the coronavirus, a figure 10 times higher than the number of confirmed cases, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Thursday.
In a briefing with reporters Thursday, CDC Director Robert Redfield said surveys of blood samples taken from around the country suggest that millions of Americans may have contracted the virus either without knowing it or with only minimal symptoms.
For every one confirmed case, Redfield said, the CDC estimates that 10 more people have been infected.
"This virus causes so much asymptomatic infection," Redfield said. "We probably recognized about 10 percent of the outbreak."
Almost 2.4 million Americans have tested positive for the coronavirus, according to the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at the Johns Hopkins University of Medicine. Redfield said the serological surveys of blood samples, collected both for coronavirus tests and for other reasons like blood donations or laboratory tests, showed that between 5 percent and 8 percent of Americans have contracted the virus.
paid_influencer wrote:Nearly 25 million Americans may have contracted the coronavirus, a figure 10 times higher than the number of confirmed cases, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Thursday.
In a briefing with reporters Thursday, CDC Director Robert Redfield said surveys of blood samples taken from around the country suggest that millions of Americans may have contracted the virus either without knowing it or with only minimal symptoms.
For every one confirmed case, Redfield said, the CDC estimates that 10 more people have been infected.
"This virus causes so much asymptomatic infection," Redfield said. "We probably recognized about 10 percent of the outbreak."
Almost 2.4 million Americans have tested positive for the coronavirus, according to the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at the Johns Hopkins University of Medicine. Redfield said the serological surveys of blood samples, collected both for coronavirus tests and for other reasons like blood donations or laboratory tests, showed that between 5 percent and 8 percent of Americans have contracted the virus.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5 ... than-known
sMASH wrote:paid_influencer wrote:Nearly 25 million Americans may have contracted the coronavirus, a figure 10 times higher than the number of confirmed cases, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Thursday.
In a briefing with reporters Thursday, CDC Director Robert Redfield said surveys of blood samples taken from around the country suggest that millions of Americans may have contracted the virus either without knowing it or with only minimal symptoms.
For every one confirmed case, Redfield said, the CDC estimates that 10 more people have been infected.
"This virus causes so much asymptomatic infection," Redfield said. "We probably recognized about 10 percent of the outbreak."
Almost 2.4 million Americans have tested positive for the coronavirus, according to the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at the Johns Hopkins University of Medicine. Redfield said the serological surveys of blood samples, collected both for coronavirus tests and for other reasons like blood donations or laboratory tests, showed that between 5 percent and 8 percent of Americans have contracted the virus.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5 ... than-known
that might actually be less, cause even just suspected cases they just stamped 'covid' when it could have been flu or sumting. is like they do the opposite of trinidad, instead of trying to keep numbers low, they went 180 and try to get as many as they could
maj. tom wrote:
WTF! nah!
This hadda be an episode of Parks & Rec.
Ben_spanna wrote:Concrete information that we need to keep our borders closed for as long as possible, the only reason anyone should be allowed into Trinidad is if they are in fact a Trini, all others can stay right where they are.
Those orange headed followers really are a work of true stupidity and insane ignorance....
sMASH wrote:Antigen testing should be the name of the game now.
Not who have it, but who had it.
And it supposed to be cheaper, easier and faster.
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