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Will Rowley/Hinds SoE be effective in curbing Crime?

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby pugboy » March 9th, 2025, 8:49 am

temporary police posts have been put in many areas in the past
what’s the issue?
many of these pnm areas are very small geographically compared to them hoods in kingston

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Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 8:52 am

88sins wrote:
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pugboy wrote:only way this soe will be effective is to simply put proper lockdown and curfew in the pnm areas.....
just like jamaica
Ent Stuart young said that "unconstitutional ", no reporter asked him to state exactly how . Nothing in the constitution prohibits such but their grassroots supporters would not be too pleased. Also the criminals within these areas will just move out if hotspots to other areas and continue their operations, need a nationwide curfew

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Cannot legally by legislation subject one set of people to one set of rules whilst all others are not, simply based on where they live, because of the actions of a few in the area in question.
How was Jamaica government able to bypass this and allow curfews and SOEs in limited areas...when our constitutions are similar

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby 88sins » March 9th, 2025, 9:38 am

Our constitutions might be similar, but they're not the same, and this is NOT Jamaica.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby redmanjp » March 9th, 2025, 12:27 pm

Now that the main reason for not having a curfew just finished on Tuesday perhaps they should implement it now like 10pm to 5am.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby paid_influencer » March 9th, 2025, 12:32 pm

isnt a soe supposed to get around all that to deal with crime

do we need a super soe or something?

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby redmanjp » March 9th, 2025, 12:49 pm

The SOE without curfew kept the murder rate from spiraling out of control with the use of automatic weapons but it still high cuz pests still allowed to be out and about. A curfew would mean they will get ketch if found outside so murder rate will drop considerably like it did in 2011 SOE

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Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 12:57 pm

Having a curfew during an election year might not bode well with the electorate.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby redmanjp » March 9th, 2025, 1:02 pm

You could have daytime rallies or virtual rallies at night. Besides the SOE would not last more than 6 months. That means by end of June it done. So u have a few weeks of rallies if it's called in August.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby paid_influencer » March 9th, 2025, 2:30 pm

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super soe coming, or ole tak?

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Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 2:30 pm

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby sMASH » March 9th, 2025, 2:43 pm

Pnm trying to lose this elections ... They can't be doing curfew heading into an elections ... Lol

They ain't able ..
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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby pugboy » March 9th, 2025, 3:03 pm

imagine things so bad in this country ppl openly wishing for stronger soe and lockdowns of areas where everybody know the pests from but police don’t have teeth to do anything

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby The_Honourable » March 9th, 2025, 3:09 pm

Rowley's last week with a curfew?

*shrugs*

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby bluefete » March 9th, 2025, 3:20 pm

PNM Pests acting our before the curfew: Still walking ROUND.


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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby sMASH » March 9th, 2025, 3:48 pm

pugboy wrote:imagine things so bad in this country ppl openly wishing for stronger soe and lockdowns of areas where everybody know the pests from but police don’t have teeth to do anything
That's a clue to the intelligence of the population ..

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby paid_influencer » March 9th, 2025, 3:51 pm

it is possible they could say the soe worked and they are discontinuing it

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Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 3:59 pm

paid_influencer wrote:it is possible they could say the soe worked and they are discontinuing it
With 7 murders in 48 hours

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T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby MaxPower » March 9th, 2025, 4:08 pm

No curfew eh coming.

The SOE is working as the murder rate is reduced, according to them, but we know its bobol.

Even if murders continue, that’s fine to them….at the end of the day they can brag that it is statistically effective.

A curfew will just inconvenience the public and business communities.

Come on…a curfew to reduce a already reduced murder rate? Not happening. They will hold off all the way up to elections.

If UNC wins….they will get a spike in murders again back to square one once the SOE is lifted and PNM leaves boasting their reduced numbers.

If PNM wins…..well they back in power so go back to how things were.

Ent no need for curfew right now…..politics playing.
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Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 4:13 pm

MaxPower wrote:No curfew eh coming.

The SOE is working as the murder rate is reduced, according to them, by we know its bobol.

Even if murders continue, that’s fine to them….at the end of the day they can brag that it is statistically effective.

A curfew will just inconvenience the public and business communities.

Come on…a curfew to reduce a already reduced murder rate? Not happening. They will hold off all the way up to elections.

If UNC wins….they will get a spike in murders again back to square one once the SOE is lifted and PNM leaves boasting their reduced numbers.

If PNM wins…..well they back in power so go back to how things were.

Ent no need for curfew right now…..politics playing.
Along with playing with ppl lives

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Postby The_Honourable » March 9th, 2025, 4:31 pm

MaxPower wrote:No curfew eh coming.

The SOE is working as the murder rate is reduced, according to them, but we know its bobol.

Even if murders continue, that’s fine to them….at the end of the day they can brag that it is statistically effective.

A curfew will just inconvenience the public and business communities.

Come on…a curfew to reduce a already reduced murder rate? Not happening. They will hold off all the way up to elections.

If UNC wins….they will get a spike in murders again back to square one once the SOE is lifted and PNM leaves boasting their reduced numbers.

If PNM wins…..well they back in power so go back to how things were.

Ent no need for curfew right now…..politics playing.


I also doubt a curfew. Most likely it would be a vocabulary of mamaguy talk as usual from hinds highlighting the "successes" of the SOE and that they will "ramp up" more police and soldiers to fight against crime.

SOE ends next month, and another 3-month extension requires a three-fifths majority vote in parliament that pnm doesn't have, which means "back to square one" might happen next month into May.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby DMan7 » March 9th, 2025, 4:34 pm

Are you all sure that implementing a curfew will be bad for the PNM in elections? The last time PNM won was at the height of the pandemic in 2020 which has some of the worst lockdowns in history.

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Postby paid_influencer » March 9th, 2025, 4:55 pm

august 2020 wasn't the height of the pandemic tho. very few ppl did dead by that time. it was after election and in 2021 that ppl started deding here in numbers. rowley win election off the whole "ocford say we is #1 in the world" and "protectin we from covid" talk. is a kind of mental tie up he extended lockdown way beyond what most places did, and then got dubbed the #1 in readiness to end lockdown, and then spun that in "#1 in managing covid".

i donno if ppl going to buy this soe/curfew or whatever is protecting we from crime.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 7:35 pm

2020 was a pandemic, ppl were scared and voted what they knew. Rowley in their minds was keeping them safe so they voted accordingly. Remember that trinis who lived abroad could not return to vote like how they usually do. So that was a major factor

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby matr1x » March 9th, 2025, 8:26 pm

It have a state of emergency?

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby MaxPower » March 9th, 2025, 8:42 pm

DMan7 wrote:Are you all sure that implementing a curfew will be bad for the PNM in elections? The last time PNM won was at the height of the pandemic in 2020 which has some of the worst lockdowns in history.


It will be bad, yes. As mentioned before, it will be an inconvenience and cause anger.

The current SOE is statistically effective, and they can sing that song for campaigning. No need for a curfew…for what? They already achieved the objective.

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Postby 16 cycles » March 10th, 2025, 9:51 am

A BUSINESS OWNER was shot and robbed of $230,000 at the car park of the C3 Centre mall in Corinth, San Fernando, on Saturday night.

At around 7.45 p.m., the victim was leaving his business, Soft Steps, at C3 when he was approached by two armed men on the eastern side of the car park.

The bandits confronted the man near his white Toyota Hiace van.

One of the assailants pointed a firearm at him and announced a robbery....


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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby Dizzy28 » March 10th, 2025, 10:08 am

The SOE as is has wreaked havoc on our perceived geopolitical stability (not helped by a resigning PM and the COP issue).
A curfew would be the icing on that instability. To implement it would deter a lot of non oil and gas related business.

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Postby hover11 » March 10th, 2025, 11:11 am

Dizzy28 wrote:The SOE as is has wreaked havoc on our perceived geopolitical stability (not helped by a resigning PM and the COP issue).
A curfew would be the icing on that instability. To implement it would deter a lot of non oil and gas related business.
Does it really matter at this point.....you speak as if the economy is in tip top shape as is

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Postby Dizzy28 » March 10th, 2025, 11:15 am

hover11 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:The SOE as is has wreaked havoc on our perceived geopolitical stability (not helped by a resigning PM and the COP issue).
A curfew would be the icing on that instability. To implement it would deter a lot of non oil and gas related business.
Does it really matter at this point.....you speak as if the economy is in tip top shape as is

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B/c the economy is not in tip top shoe is precisely why we can't have the instability the curfew will bring.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024/2025

Postby pugboy » March 10th, 2025, 12:57 pm

a curfew in the bandit areas would potentially help the economy
ppl would be less afraid of doing business and starting small business ventures with less fear of being held up when opening/closing your business place

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