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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby The_Honourable » October 20th, 2015, 12:26 am

Imbert trolling the opposition since budget day lol

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Postby j.o.e » October 20th, 2015, 12:42 am

Only now Imbert as Minister of Finance making sense. Needed someone with the political experience to call a spade a spade.

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby V2NR 3.0 » October 20th, 2015, 5:44 am

zoom rader wrote:
RASC wrote:Investigation shall be run... The truth will be exposed soon.
Whistle blower legislation coming also... Flights to Panama ram out apparently.



Last ppl that went and died in Panama was PNM ppl bro


You bring back some history in the mix

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby zoom rader » October 20th, 2015, 5:50 am

V2NR 3.0 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
RASC wrote:Investigation shall be run... The truth will be exposed soon.
Whistle blower legislation coming also... Flights to Panama ram out apparently.



Last ppl that went and died in Panama was PNM ppl bro


You bring back some history in the mix


If the new PNM Ppl or the ignorant ones don't know their pass they can never move forward.

PNM ex-ministers ran to Panama and died there, one even built a skyscraper in Canada with Trini tax payers money.

Rasc, Habit7 and Rfari will never explain these facts to the new PNM Ppl.

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby RASC » October 20th, 2015, 7:21 am

j.o.e wrote:Only now Imbert as Minister of Finance making sense. Needed someone with the political experience to call a spade a spade.


I tell allyuh that long time!

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby York » October 20th, 2015, 9:08 am

zoom rader wrote:
V2NR 3.0 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
RASC wrote:Investigation shall be run... The truth will be exposed soon.
Whistle blower legislation coming also... Flights to Panama raN out apparently.



Last ppl that went and died in Panama was PNM ppl bro


You bring back some history in the mix


If the new PNM Ppl or the ignorant ones don't know their pasT (or ass) they can never move forward.

PNM ex-ministers ran to Panama and died there, one even built a skyscraper in Canada with Trini tax payers money.

Rasc, Habit7 and Rfari will never explain these alleged phenomena to the new PNM Ppl.

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Postby EmilioA » October 20th, 2015, 9:35 am

zoom rader wrote:If the new PNM Ppl or the ignorant ones don't know their pass they can never move forward.

PNM ex-ministers ran to Panama and died there, one even built a skyscraper in Canada with Trini tax payers money.

Rasc, Habit7 and Rfari will never explain these facts to the new PNM Ppl.



If the UNC people dont know thier PRESENT they can never move forward.

Check at the audits that coming from the various State enterprises. Something like 2/3 of the money spent gone into UNC partners bank accounts.

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby zoom rader » October 20th, 2015, 9:43 am

EmilioA wrote:
zoom rader wrote:If the new PNM Ppl or the ignorant ones don't know their pass they can never move forward.

PNM ex-ministers ran to Panama and died there, one even built a skyscraper in Canada with Trini tax payers money.

Rasc, Habit7 and Rfari will never explain these facts to the new PNM Ppl.



If the UNC people dont know thier PRESENT they can never move forward.

Check at the audits that coming from the various State enterprises. Something like 2/3 of the money spent gone into UNC partners bank accounts.


They make Jail yet or ran of to the PNM Safe haven of Panama as yet?

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby EmilioA » October 20th, 2015, 10:29 am

zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
zoom rader wrote:If the new PNM Ppl or the ignorant ones don't know their pass they can never move forward.

PNM ex-ministers ran to Panama and died there, one even built a skyscraper in Canada with Trini tax payers money.

Rasc, Habit7 and Rfari will never explain these facts to the new PNM Ppl.



If the UNC people dont know thier PRESENT they can never move forward.

Check at the audits that coming from the various State enterprises. Something like 2/3 of the money spent gone into UNC partners bank accounts.


They make Jail yet or ran of to the PNM Safe haven of Panama as yet?


Ah good you dont deny it. The first step is acceptance.

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby Habit7 » October 20th, 2015, 11:21 am

zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
zoom rader wrote:If the new PNM Ppl or the ignorant ones don't know their pass they can never move forward.

PNM ex-ministers ran to Panama and died there, one even built a skyscraper in Canada with Trini tax payers money.

Rasc, Habit7 and Rfari will never explain these facts to the new PNM Ppl.



If the UNC people dont know thier PRESENT they can never move forward.

Check at the audits that coming from the various State enterprises. Something like 2/3 of the money spent gone into UNC partners bank accounts.


They make Jail yet or ran of to the PNM Safe haven of Panama as yet?

UNC folk should have learned and run to Panama, instead they ran to Miami

Piarco probe: 2 firms apologise
Published on Dec 29, 2009, 12:01 am AST

Two firms that agreed to a $30 million payout to the State arising out of a civil suit initiated by the Government regarding the $1.6 billion Piarco Airport terminal building project have apologised to the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago if anyone without their consent or knowledge used "their good name" to carry out fraudulent activity in the scandal.

Portguese-based Grupo Soares da Costa and its Florida subsidiary, Soares Da Costa Contractor Inc reached a settlement earlier this month in a Miami court with the Government which was represented by Attorney General John Jeremie that resulted in a $30 million payout to the State.

Both companies sent a joint apology letter, which was dated December 8, and was signed by Soares executive directors A Silva Neves and Antonia Frada.

Jeremie received the letter on December 21.

The Miami Herald reported on October 26, 2006, that during a case on the Piarco Airport scandal in Miami three days earlier Assistant US Attorney Richard D. Gregorie said Diaz de Villegas, who pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, arranged for the Miami subsidiary of Soares Da Costa to present an inflated sham bid.

The Herald further reported that Gregorie said during the search of the office of Calmaquip, the company which was a main contractor on the airport project and has since closed, officials found ''on Calmaquip's former owner Raul Gutierrez's desk "a draft copy of the Soares Da Costa competing bid with no company stamps, proving the firm had a copy of the bid before it submitted its own."

Soares da Costa and its subsidiary expressed "deep regret that we feel as a company arising from the facts surrounding our being named as defendants in the Miami civil case brought at your (the Government's) direction arising out of the investigation into alleged corruption in the building of the Piarco Airport."

Soares da Costa stated in its apology letter that it and its affiliated companies have "a long and proud tradition encompassing almost 100 years free of corruption allegations against" them.

"However, starting our business in South Florida in the late 1990's, we relied heavily on our joint venture partner Calmaquip and its officers to properly conduct themselves and our joint venture in Miami in accordance with all applicable laws. Although our joint venture partner and several of its officers pled guilty to serious criminal charges, none of our companies were ever charged with any criminal conduct," the Soares da Costa companies wrote in their letter.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/business ... 64324.html


Right now Ish and Steve challenge to Section 34 before the courts, if they win UNC have to be prepared for Opposition for the next 10 years.

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby zoom rader » October 20th, 2015, 11:42 am

EmilioA wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
zoom rader wrote:If the new PNM Ppl or the ignorant ones don't know their pass they can never move forward.

PNM ex-ministers ran to Panama and died there, one even built a skyscraper in Canada with Trini tax payers money.

Rasc, Habit7 and Rfari will never explain these facts to the new PNM Ppl.



If the UNC people dont know thier PRESENT they can never move forward.

Check at the audits that coming from the various State enterprises. Something like 2/3 of the money spent gone into UNC partners bank accounts.


They make Jail yet or ran of to the PNM Safe haven of Panama as yet?


Ah good you dont deny it. The first step is acceptance.


Key word here is " yet".
Awaits PNM to bring charges, court cases and then Jail.

Until then its just PNM ole talk as usual
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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby York » October 20th, 2015, 11:58 am

Well is PNM time now, think they will work on procurement legislation or save helicopter flight costs to fill their buckets or pockets?

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby York » October 20th, 2015, 12:06 pm

Sorry, we.....

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby Numb3r4 » October 20th, 2015, 6:38 pm

Suruj did ask a silly question there.

Still does anyone find that Minister Imbert to be a bit arrogant and short (in temperament that is)?

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » October 20th, 2015, 7:00 pm

Numb3r4 wrote:Suruj did ask a silly question there.

Still does anyone find that Minister Imbert to be a bit arrogant and short (in temperament that is)?


Fcuk that. Asking dumb questions repeatedly to just frustrate and the next side not supposed to get upset at all? Turning the cheek too much is a sign of weakness.

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Postby RASC » October 20th, 2015, 7:23 pm

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:
Numb3r4 wrote:Suruj did ask a silly question there.

Still does anyone find that Minister Imbert to be a bit arrogant and short (in temperament that is)?


Fcuk that. Asking dumb questions repeatedly to just frustrate and the next side not supposed to get upset at all? Turning the cheek too much is a sign of weakness.


No mercy for them. Not turning no cheek here... These people mercilessly plundered our resources and filled the pockets of friends and family...they're treasonous bastards and shall be treated as such.

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Postby Numb3r4 » October 20th, 2015, 7:36 pm

Wasn't referring to this incident but his overall attitude in general....there were times where he even cut across the Speaker and last night during the parliament session his manner when answering questions was a bit ridiculous....especially when Fmr. Minister of Health Dr. Khan asked for clarification on the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex being funded and the San Fernando Teaching Hospital not being funded (or funding reduced).

The issue raised was that The Eric Williams Complex was considered an educational facility and that the San Fernando facility was not and they were budgeted for under two different Ministries, one education and the other health, all he was trying to ask was why this was so and if the Education Minister could look into consolidating the two under the same ministry.

We chastised the Cabal for being arrogant but now that we have a new administration and it is okay? Suddenly it is a sign of strength? Didn't we vote for change?

Guess not.....

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » October 20th, 2015, 7:49 pm

Numb3r4 wrote:Wasn't referring to this incident but his overall attitude in general....there were times where he even cut across the Speaker and last night during the parliament session his manner when answering questions was a bit ridiculous....especially when Fmr. Minister of Health Dr. Khan asked for clarification on the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex being funded and the San Fernando Teaching Hospital not being funded (or funding reduced).

The issue raised was that The Eric Williams Complex was considered an educational facility and that the San Fernando facility was not and they were budgeted for under two different Ministries, one education and the other health, all he was trying to ask was why this was so and if the Education Minister could look into consolidating the two under the same ministry.

We chastised the Cabal for being arrogant but now that we have a new administration and it is okay? Suddenly it is a sign of strength? Didn't we vote for change?

Guess not.....


Change in terms of how they deal with the public yes and certain institutions yes but not for politicians that trying to be difficult.
It is very difficult to take one seriously if what they put out to you is nonsense mixed up with sense. If Fuad had a genuine question that's good and it should be answered. It would be of great service if the others also put forward good questions so as not to lead to exasperation. Imbert didn't come out insulting at the start of this session. Watch it and you'll see it was over time after having to deal with ridiculous lines of questions.

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Postby Numb3r4 » October 20th, 2015, 10:16 pm

^^Point taken.

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Postby RASC » October 20th, 2015, 11:17 pm

Theyve been asking benign questions right through. I don't give imbert wrong in the least.

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Postby zoom rader » October 21st, 2015, 2:41 am

Numb3r4 wrote:Suruj did ask a silly question there.

Still does anyone find that Minister Imbert to be a bit arrogant and short (in temperament that is)?


It's the same ole PNM, nothing had changed and it's even gotten worst.
PNM now has junior sec mentally MPs

Expect more arrogant PNM MPs, don't even think of seeing your PNM MPs.

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Postby ~Vēġó~ » October 21st, 2015, 4:36 am

RASC wrote:No mercy for them. Not turning no cheek here... These people mercilessly plundered our resources and filled the pockets of friends and family...they're treasonous bastards and shall be treated as such.


:shock: :shock: :shock: Wait...what??? doh make joke nah....fuh real yuh stated that? fuh real? WOW...

I feel that I'm too old and remember too much.....pot/kettle much?

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby eliteauto » October 21st, 2015, 9:03 am

PNM thief so UNC could thief too
All Gov't does thief so I voting for "we" time to thief now
Is ok to thief once the thief look like "we"
When "them" thief is racism
steals $200M, talks about eating grass and boiling boulders


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Postby Chimera » October 21st, 2015, 11:50 am

You see what rambharat say about that caroni green program...i know a few of the farmers who were part of it...and its absolutely true about the fraud that usw to go on.....not a farmer profit from it......
After spending thousands on labour.....

The company was suppose to guarantee sale of all produce....when farmers reaped crops and gave them....it was left to rotten.....with no payment given to farmers

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Postby EmilioA » October 21st, 2015, 7:31 pm

~Vēġó~ wrote:
RASC wrote:No mercy for them. Not turning no cheek here... These people mercilessly plundered our resources and filled the pockets of friends and family...they're treasonous bastards and shall be treated as such.


:shock: :shock: :shock: Wait...what??? doh make joke nah....fuh real yuh stated that? fuh real? WOW...

I feel that I'm too old and remember too much.....pot/kettle much?


Maybe you would pretend the kettle nice and shiny and clean ?

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Postby bluesclues » October 21st, 2015, 8:07 pm

watching unc and hearing vasanth today. im convinced that unc is the sh!ttiest opposition ever.

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Postby cherrypopper » October 21st, 2015, 8:41 pm

They just don't care. .

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Postby RASC » October 22nd, 2015, 6:13 am

The sheer amount of stupidness they've been asking-one cannot take them seriously.

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Postby York » October 22nd, 2015, 8:54 am

ABA Trading LTD wrote:You see what rambharat say about that caroni green program...i know a few of the farmers who were part of it...and its absolutely true about the fraud that usw to go on.....not a farmer profit from it......
After spending thousands on labour.....

The company was suppose to guarantee sale of all produce....when farmers reaped crops and gave them....it was left to rotten.....with no payment given to farmers

cyar even get seed from the seed unit, when farmers produce, they have to give away their produce because of the shitty distribution system, and retailers make 100-200% on what the farmer toil in the soil to make 10-20%.

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Re: 2015/2016 Budget - Trinidad & Tobago

Postby Chimera » October 22nd, 2015, 8:59 am

i know one or two seedling suppliers who never get pay for 10k+ in seedlings that were supplied under guarantee of payment by caroni green

real real racket run in that program yes

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