.::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

[Daran]

How many times we have to go through this? crowds don't mean squat, most of that crowd from outside the constituency so this is of little or no value except upping your post count.

Firstly, Hyperion, they do, it's called the bandwagon effect and this was probably the main reason UNC in 2007 was able to re-capture so many votes when it seemed like COP would be an easy second the PNM. That was after their massive Mid-Center Mall rally that shocked everyone.

Secondly, when I passed by the rally I actually did people I recognized from Tunapuna. But of course I know parties have a rent-a-crowd at every meeting. That said, it was indeed the biggest political meeting I've ever seen at that venue which is very encouraging to see.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

good thing we're not all like UML

Trinis really need to appreciate images like these and appreciate that we can be jovial about it.

In many other countries politics can quickly lead to violence especially when opposing parties meet (or should I say "clash") on the streets.

[UML]

How many times we have to go through this? crowds don't mean squat, most of that crowd from outside the constituency so this is of little or no value except upping your post count.

So why the beat up?

[UML]

How many times we have to go through this? crowds don't mean squat, most of that crowd from outside the constituency so this is of little or no value except upping your post count.

Firstly, Hyperion, they do, it's called the bandwagon effect and this was probably the main reason UNC in 2007 was able to re-capture so many votes when it seemed like COP would be an easy second the PNM. That was after their massive Mid-Center Mall rally that shocked everyone.

Secondly, when I passed by the rally I actually did people I recognized from Tunapuna. But of course I know parties have a rent-a-crowd at every meeting. That said, it was indeed the biggest political meeting I've ever seen at that venue which is very encouraging to see.

Doh hurt yuh head Rasc telling these fools he has been speaking with the "grassroot " people (but he himself say he is an elite and doh deal ip with low lifes) and that it is an easy PNM win

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Interesting take
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/columns/ ... a_18348840

Read to the end.

[janfar]

Duane 3NE 2NR is a UNC.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

[Daran]

I have said in this space that in Mrs Persad-Bissessar "we have a leader who is not worried about leaving a legacy of election victories as her major accomplishment, but is much more concerned about the kind of country she will bequeath to her children, grandchildren, and the people of Trinidad and Tobago. Evidently Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar is not dwarfed by realpolitik that is influenced by a process of what I call 'regional political osmosis'." (Jamaica Observer, August 17, 2014)
For those who say that firing 26 members of her government is indication of poor leadership by Persad-Bissessar, I ask them to consider this utterance by world-renowned Jack Welch, former chief executive officer of General Electric, perhaps the most successful manager of one of the largest companies on the globe: "Willingness to change is strength, even if it means plunging part of the company into total confusion for a while."
O friend, never strike sail to a fear! Come into port greatly, or sail with God the seas. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

From Duane's article.

[Daran]

I have said in this space that in Mrs Persad-Bissessar "we have a leader who is not worried about leaving a legacy of election victories as her major accomplishment, but is much more concerned about the kind of country she will bequeath to her children, grandchildren, and the people of Trinidad and Tobago. Evidently Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar is not dwarfed by realpolitik that is influenced by a process of what I call 'regional political osmosis'." (Jamaica Observer, August 17, 2014)
For those who say that firing 26 members of her government is indication of poor leadership by Persad-Bissessar, I ask them to consider this utterance by world-renowned Jack Welch, former chief executive officer of General Electric, perhaps the most successful manager of one of the largest companies on the globe: "Willingness to change is strength, even if it means plunging part of the company into total confusion for a while."
O friend, never strike sail to a fear! Come into port greatly, or sail with God the seas. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

From Duane's article.

[UML]

But dat is the same party ??:

[UML]

Since 1961 the PNM has been "promising" the Pt Fortin Highway. The PPG did it in one term.


The PNM has "promised" reducing VAT manifesto to manifesto and it never did it.

They will "promise" the sky, milk and honey for this election just to get back into government but we all know.....



PNM
Promises
Never
Materialise

[UML]

Puna Posse

[SMc]

Puna Posse

Tunapuna? Why the signs and them saying Chaguanas West? They run out of signs or they just give everyone one flag/sign/jersy etc they hadda use that one in every 'rally'?

BTW I like how Mandela looking down at all of them... nice touch RASC

[K74T]

But dat is the same party ??:

Doh beat up

[eliteauto]

BTW I like how Mandela looking down at all of them... nice touch RASC

[K74T]

Propaganda Prevails posse and their dirty work again

[K74T]

[zoom rader]

I wonder what criminal records Marlon Remy has

[desifemlove]

But dat is the same party ??:

loooololol...proof of "secret alliance" dat Dr. Moonilal and Kams does say what going on...

[EmilioA]

Puna Posse

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Massey Car Park is on the boundary between St Augustine and Tunapuna constituencies and near to the St Joseph and St Anns East boundaries.

Smallish crowd at the Massey Car Park I'd say 1,000 to 1,500 max . The major jerseys in appearance were from Siparia, Chaguanas West and St Joseph . St Anns East banner present as well.

Most worrying were the lack of COP jersey's maybe 50 max. Also of concern was the lack of Tunapuna Jerseys BUT I suspect the Tunapuna crowd would show up at events in CoE, Eddie Hart .
Compared to the COP rally in the same place 5 years ago I'd say this shows the major disintegration of the COP as a separate party.

If the PP is going to win I think it'll have to step up its ground game.

[Daran]

Puna Posse

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Massey Car Park is on the boundary between St Augustine and Tunapuna constituencies and near to the St Joseph and St Anns East boundaries.

Smallish crowd at the Massey Car Park I'd say 1,000 to 1,500 max . The major jerseys in appearance were from Siparia, Chaguanas West and St Joseph . St Anns East banner present as well.

Most worrying were the lack of COP jersey's maybe 50 max. Also of concern was the lack of Tunapuna Jerseys BUT I suspect the Tunapuna crowd would show up at events in CoE, Eddie Hart .
Compared to the COP rally in the same place 5 years ago I'd say this shows the major disintegration of the COP as a separate party.

If the PP is going to win I think it'll have to step up its ground game.

COP is irrelevant. You went early, when I passed I swear it was at least 3000 possibly more.

Despite being on the boundary that area is definitely Tunapuna. Lots in the crowd including some of my relatives from st Vincent street were there. I think a lot of those banners from other constituencies are just groupies tagging or were biased to come. Nothin wrong there.

In the end the meeting was the biggest I've ever seen there which is surprising. Usually those meetings have 500-1000 people. It was easily double that.

[rfari]

How kamala could diss PNM 'conversations' and then wait last minute to copy it. And on top of that screening the ppl and deciding who gets to ask question? Wha kinna fraud ting?

And what is with the scripts and teleprompters? Who it is writing that stuff for kamala? The cabal? Is it the cabal puppet mastering kamala?

[EmilioA]

Puna Posse

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Massey Car Park is on the boundary between St Augustine and Tunapuna constituencies and near to the St Joseph and St Anns East boundaries.

Smallish crowd at the Massey Car Park I'd say 1,000 to 1,500 max . The major jerseys in appearance were from Siparia, Chaguanas West and St Joseph . St Anns East banner present as well.

Most worrying were the lack of COP jersey's maybe 50 max. Also of concern was the lack of Tunapuna Jerseys BUT I suspect the Tunapuna crowd would show up at events in CoE, Eddie Hart .
Compared to the COP rally in the same place 5 years ago I'd say this shows the major disintegration of the COP as a separate party.

If the PP is going to win I think it'll have to step up its ground game.

COP is irrelevant. You went early, when I passed I swear it was at least 3000 possibly more.

Despite being on the boundary that area is definitely Tunapuna. Lots in the crowd including some of my relatives from st Vincent street were there. I think a lot of those banners from other constituencies are just groupies tagging or were biased to come. Nothin wrong there.

In the end the meeting was the biggest I've ever seen there which is surprising. Usually those meetings have 500-1000 people. It was easily double that.

I did my counting while Kamla was speaking so dont pull that "you went early" BS. If you think that was 3000 it means we need to downgrade all your other assessments by half.

At minimum 3/4 of that crowd was "groupies" by your description.

And if the COP is irrelevant then Tunapuna and Sando West in trouble. That's why I thinking the UNC only hope is if Jairam pull off something in Talparo/La Horquetta.

[Kewell35]

Puna Posse

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Massey Car Park is on the boundary between St Augustine and Tunapuna constituencies and near to the St Joseph and St Anns East boundaries.

Smallish crowd at the Massey Car Park I'd say 1,000 to 1,500 max . The major jerseys in appearance were from Siparia, Chaguanas West and St Joseph . St Anns East banner present as well.

Most worrying were the lack of COP jersey's maybe 50 max. Also of concern was the lack of Tunapuna Jerseys BUT I suspect the Tunapuna crowd would show up at events in CoE, Eddie Hart .
Compared to the COP rally in the same place 5 years ago I'd say this shows the major disintegration of the COP as a separate party.

If the PP is going to win I think it'll have to step up its ground game.

COP is irrelevant. You went early, when I passed I swear it was at least 3000 possibly more.

Despite being on the boundary that area is definitely Tunapuna. Lots in the crowd including some of my relatives from st Vincent street were there. I think a lot of those banners from other constituencies are just groupies tagging or were biased to come. Nothin wrong there.

In the end the meeting was the biggest I've ever seen there which is surprising. Usually those meetings have 500-1000 people. It was easily double that.

I did my counting while Kamla was speaking so dont pull that "you went early" BS. If you think that was 3000 it means we need to downgrade all your other assessments by half.

At minimum 3/4 of that crowd was "groupies" by your description.

And if the COP is irrelevant then Tunapuna and Sando West in trouble. That's why I thinking the UNC only hope is if Jairam pull off something in Talparo/La Horquetta.

Ent you predict that the PP will win?

[EmilioA]

Ent you predict that the PP will win?

Yes, and. . . ? Anything I saying inconsistent with my prediction ?

[eliteauto]

[Daran]

Love this pic.

EmilioA,

No need to bring it so. I passed by, didn't have time to do a head count but it looked big. Bigger than I'm used to at that location. I have no idea how you figured 3/4 were the UNC posse they bring to every meeting but can't argue something unprovable like that.

That said I think Wayne Munroe is a bad choice for this seat, Prakash or Vasant should have held the fort and try to bring it home. I guess they both don't want to risk losing their political power. Which could also mean they think they'll lose puna. But I think it's too close to call.

Usually Tunapuna swings slightly against PNM and talk on the ground is that PP support is still very strong. Time will tell.

[rfari]

Who is that former UNC member on the PNM platform? Man going hard on the cabal boy. Jeh!

Edit:
Dave persad

Dave Persad exits UNC

By SEAN DOUGLAS Monday, August 18 2014


PAST chairman of the Couva/Tabaquite/Talparo, attorney Dave Persad, on Saturday resigned from the ruling United National Congress (UNC) in disgust at what he called its undemocratic lobbying for a runoff ballot system of voting at general elections. “An undemocratic process cannot yield a democratic result. It is a contradiction in terms,” declared Persad. “It simply cannot be denied that at no time during the many national discussions did the runoff issue feature nor were there debates centred around it.”

He said the Constitution Reform Commission (CRC) as a body has remained dangerously silent on the issue. “Having been ‘handsomely paid’ by the taxpayers of this country, they must raise their voices or be condemned and run the risk of their entire report losing its integrity and being deemed a massive and expensive hoax on the population.” Persad said no amount of propaganda, public relations, gun-talk or rhetoric can detract from this issue. 

“To delve into the merits or demerits of the runoff proposal at this stage will only serve to detract and trivialise the Government’s brazen attempt to employ a most undemocratic process on an important constitutional matter.” Persad said that following the decision of 22 MPS to back the bill, one must now wait with bated breath to see what the Independent Senators will have to say. 

He recalled the recent rejection of the bill in the Lower House by COP founder Winston Dookeran and San Fernando West MP Carolyn Seepersad-Bachan, the former saying it goes against all his lifelong beliefs and is extremely fundamental. 

Persad said that when something is so ‘fundamental’ that it goes to the heart of one’s beliefs, then one must respond with equal vigour. “And it is for this precise reason that it is my intention to submit my resignation as a member of the UNC (United National Congress).” He said he has had to grapple with several issues over his three years as CTTRC chairman, which contributed to his decision not to seek re-election to the post, but the current bill is the proverbial last straw that broke the camel’s back. “As for those who parade as flag-bearers of the gospel of ‘new politics’, it continues to remain elusive as to when fundamental issues become so fundamental as to warrant decisive action to meet their utterly idle and empty boast,” he added. “Perhaps the most fundamental thing for them is the supreme desire to hold on to office and power, temporary as it might be, at any cost.”

http://www.newsday.co.tt/politics/0,199249.html

[EmilioA]

That said I think Wayne Munroe is a bad choice for this seat, Prakash or Vasant should have held the fort and try to bring it home. I guess they both don't want to risk losing their political power. Which could also mean they think they'll lose puna. But I think it's too close to call.

Usually Tunapuna swings slightly against PNM and talk on the ground is that PP support is still very strong. Time will tell.

Its a sad fall from the days when the UNC had a choice between Mervyn Assam, Carlos John and Gerald Yetming to contest Tunapuna. That the PP was not grooming someone to take this vital seat speaks volumes.

[eliteauto]

UNC FB page cyah done vilify Dave Persad