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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » October 2nd, 2022, 4:19 pm

timelapse wrote:F@ck the memes.Thats what have them feeling that the general population doesn't really care.Post serious stuff.This laugh at everything mentality has to stop

posting stuff dont do much niether... boots round the house that is red, is what would do the trick.

but ah man say, is only bout 200 people come out friday to protest the budget...

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2022, 4:24 pm

Redress10 wrote:
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hover11 wrote:So you are saying that you accept lazy Leaders, that you accept the status quo let the politicians do as they please then so be it. That is why we have a weak minded population this is not the population of 1990. This is a timid population that allows the government to do as they please with no repercussions. So public servants lazy but the rest of the population like yourself weak minded


I am saying that those ppl because they play no part in my economic standing. I am not dependant on them to put food on the table. Why would I give them that much control over me? Why have you? In a world of almost 8 billion ppl have you ever earned forex in some shape or form? Have you ever sold a product on the international market?


so only the merchants are productive, by your definition.

the people that made the goods, fed the workers, built the factory, transported the raw materials, etc... all aren't productive because they don't directly earn forex, under your definition.


No but the merchants are creating economic activity that results in workers being fed, factory being built etc. Due to our country's history with colonialism, slavery and indentureship etc that responsibility now falls on the "government". But the people in government have no experience or background in mercantile. They are the descendants of the former slaves and indenture labourers. They don't know anything about mercantile yet the government is in control of 70% of the economy so everyone is looking at the government for the next dog and pony show but they honestly have no clue. This is an oil/gas country yet no one in government has ever owned a oil/gas company etc. Your energy minister is a lawyer.
You talking about economic activity do you know it is the role of the government to stimulate the economy, question,has the government done that in the past SEVEN years in office? The private sector generates little to nothing when it comes to GDP , fact remains if the government does not spend the private sector remains stagnant thus the economy slows down and comes to a complete halt.


According to what economic theory is it the government's role to generate economic activity? Hovie, you ever study economics? Most economic theories lean towards government having nothing more than a regulatory role/function in the economy of the country. This is due to the belief that the invisible hands of demand and supply would set the marker for everything. Instead government is viewed as bloated and inefficient. Which is what we have noticed with all of the various state companies that always seem to be in turmoil.

If the government needs to spend in order the incentivise the private sector then the private sector are not producing goods and services that are relevant. A good tasting cake will always sell out at the end of the day. The private sector operates on tenderpreneurship. Asks them which countries they actually export to and you will see for yourself. Asks them who is their biggest customer and 9 times out of 10 it is the government. Everybody sucking the state's tits and wondering why it starting to sag and hang.

Government could also generate economic activity by selling alot of those state companies to the private sector but employees such as yourself and the unions will fight against that too right?
Bro....you understand that we are a MIXED economy right, not a capitalist economy like that of the US where the government does not interfere in economic policies. The government has to intervene in our case. This is POB 101 not even university level econ. A form 1 could tell you that you talking garbage right now. They have to improve the efficiency of the economic system that's why we have a central bank to regulate the repo rates and try to control inflation.


Again, that mixed economy is government taking on a more regulatory role to ensure that competition takes place and no monopolies are formed. Why does a government need to own an airline for instance? The market already determines those sort of things. A government's role should be to provide relevant public goods that keep the economy going but don't cross over into private sector domain to mess with efficiency and profitability.
Becareful what you ask for because the same government can leave it to private gas stations to set their own prices as it is in America, say enough is enough and stop making losses on that because tbh the government does not have to pay for your fuel. There are no obligations there , lights and water is a basic commodity that everyone should have but gas is not

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redress10 » October 2nd, 2022, 4:29 pm

Again, the problem is not the government. It is the amount of control that the government has over the population. Know the difference.

In all of those protests and marches. Do you ever see local whites, syrians, chinese etc protesting as well? So why isn't the policies of the government affecting them as well? Why is it only red and yellow supporters that always protesting? Doesn't that tel you that those ppl are removed from government policies that causing ppl to protest.

You know why? Those people are the owners of capital. They are not dependent on the government to provide anything. They hire their own private security meanwhile the rest are dependant on the police. They use private healthcare over public healthcare. Their children go to private schools so they don't need SEA. They also go foreign university over UWI. Food prices don't affect them because they can afford it and also, the owners of supermarkets would give them friendly discounts. They access forex because they have businesses throughout the caribbean that don't suffer from forex shortages like here in TT. Some of them even renting to government and government taking your tax money to pay them every month. Some of them even paving the roads in their community so don't even need the government for that. They are more or less unbothered at this point.

You all really need to wake up.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redress10 » October 2nd, 2022, 4:37 pm

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redress10 » October 2nd, 2022, 4:42 pm

hover11 wrote:Becareful what you ask for because the same government can leave it to private gas stations to set their own prices as it is in America, say enough is enough and stop making losses on that because tbh the government does not have to pay for your fuel. There are no obligations there , lights and water is a basic commodity that everyone should have but gas is not


Well bro, if you can only afford things based on government subsidy then you honestly can't afford things. Based on your salary and earnings, how many things outside of trinidad can you actually afford? Can you afford to pay the us price for gasoline or rent? You keep forgetting that you are earning tt dollars whilst consuming products made with us dollars?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby matr1x » October 2nd, 2022, 5:06 pm

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2022, 5:17 pm

Redress10 wrote:
hover11 wrote:Becareful what you ask for because the same government can leave it to private gas stations to set their own prices as it is in America, say enough is enough and stop making losses on that because tbh the government does not have to pay for your fuel. There are no obligations there , lights and water is a basic commodity that everyone should have but gas is not


Well bro, if you can only afford things based on government subsidy then you honestly can't afford things. Based on your salary and earnings, how many things outside of trinidad can you actually afford? Can you afford to pay the us price for gasoline or rent? You keep forgetting that you are earning tt dollars whilst consuming products made with us dollars?
Clear example of how nothing affects some of those who are privileged in society.The role and function of any Gov't is to help a country progress. At the moment forget what garbage imbert feeding you , the country economic state is deterioting....time will tell how this situation unfolds

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby timelapse » October 2nd, 2022, 5:28 pm

matr1x wrote:When slaves get used to being slaves, they will look at slave masters with adoration
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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » October 2nd, 2022, 5:38 pm

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2022, 5:50 pm

Square pegs in round holes. The minister of national security who can't even walk through his own constituency because it is a known Hotspot area
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Re: PNM in Gov't

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hover11 wrote:Square pegs in round holes. The minister of national security who can't even walk through his own constituency because it is a known Hotspot area
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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redress10 » October 2nd, 2022, 6:20 pm

hover11 wrote:Square pegs in round holes. The minister of national security who can't even walk through his own constituency because it is a known Hotspot area
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All this beat up and the syrian, venezuelan and chinese coming right here and going out on the road everyday to make a dollar and buy property. Meanwhile trinis like u sit down in office all day and then want to go and march for 10 percent wage increase because "the world needs employees". Then your children and grandchildren wanna know why "them people own everything" whilst they sit down in a gov't office doing nothing but watching time pass.

Keep waiting for gov't to improve your life and you will be kept waiting.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2022, 6:25 pm

You know how Chinese achieved their wealth do you know how the syrians achieved their wealth, do you know what the Chinese mafia is , do you believe syrians made millions from selling "cloth"? Stop watching what other ppl have or what they doing. You have no CLUE what they did to achieve what they have today
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hover11 wrote:Square pegs in round holes. The minister of national security who can't even walk through his own constituency because it is a known Hotspot area
sMASH wrote:Burr burrrFB_IMG_1664744992645.jpg



All this beat up and the syrian, venezuelan and chinese coming right here and going out on the road everyday to make a dollar and buy property. Meanwhile trinis like u sit down in office all day and then want to go and march for 10 percent wage increase because "the world needs employees". Then your children and grandchildren wanna know why "them people own everything" whilst they sit down in a gov't office doing nothing but watching time pass.

Keep waiting for gov't to improve your life and you will be kept waiting.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » October 2nd, 2022, 6:28 pm

If UNC feel i voting for them come 2025 they better ketch they blasted self yes.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2022, 6:33 pm

MaxPower wrote:If UNC feel i voting for them come 2025 they better ketch they blasted self yes.
The feeling is mutual when it comes to PNM, drunk or sober them can't get my vote come 2025

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » October 2nd, 2022, 6:48 pm

hover11 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:If UNC feel i voting for them come 2025 they better ketch they blasted self yes.
The feeling is mutual when it comes to PNM, drunk or sober them can't get my vote come 2025


Jason,

I understand and it is your choice and your right.

But your vote cannot change the result.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby DMan7 » October 2nd, 2022, 6:50 pm

hover11 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:If UNC feel i voting for them come 2025 they better ketch they blasted self yes.
The feeling is mutual when it comes to PNM, drunk or sober them can't get my vote come 2025


It's PNM 2025, also

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2022, 6:51 pm

Anybody know where I could get a Coal pot to buy?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redress10 » October 2nd, 2022, 6:56 pm

hover11 wrote:Anybody know where I could get a Coal pot to buy?


If no one gives you one, you gonna get up off ya arse and get one yaself or you gonna wait for gov't to get that for you too?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby bluefete » October 2nd, 2022, 7:01 pm

T&T just before the French Revolution of 1789


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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2022, 7:02 pm

Redress10 wrote:
hover11 wrote:Anybody know where I could get a Coal pot to buy?


If no one gives you one, you gonna get up off ya arse and get one yaself or you gonna wait for gov't to get that for you too?
Notice I said the word buy right or are you ILLITERATE .....I was simply asking for where I can purchase one as this will be our new way of life soon according to the ministers

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby adnj » October 2nd, 2022, 7:02 pm

Reading this thread is like going to Singapore and watching a public flogging.
*ouch *wince

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby bluefete » October 2nd, 2022, 7:04 pm

hover11 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
hover11 wrote:Anybody know where I could get a Coal pot to buy?


If no one gives you one, you gonna get up off ya arse and get one yaself or you gonna wait for gov't to get that for you too?
Notice I said the word buy right or are you ILLITERATE .....I was simply asking for where I can purchase one as this will be our new way of life soon according to the ministers


LOL. Any variety store in Tunapuna or Charlotte St.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » October 2nd, 2022, 7:06 pm

hover11 wrote:Anybody know where I could get a Coal pot to buy?


Jason try the Little Store in Curepe.

330-4500

Call them before u go

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2022, 7:07 pm

bluefete wrote:
hover11 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
hover11 wrote:Anybody know where I could get a Coal pot to buy?


If no one gives you one, you gonna get up off ya arse and get one yaself or you gonna wait for gov't to get that for you too?
Notice I said the word buy right or are you ILLITERATE .....I was simply asking for where I can purchase one as this will be our new way of life soon according to the ministers


LOL. Any variety store in Tunapuna or Charlotte St.
Thanks I will pick one tomorrow

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2022, 7:07 pm

MaxPower wrote:
hover11 wrote:Anybody know where I could get a Coal pot to buy?


Jason try the Little Store in Curepe.

330-4500

Call them before u go
Thanks man that's actually close by I will check them out too

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby DMan7 » October 2nd, 2022, 7:13 pm

Coal Pot is the best thing for BBQ. Enhances the flavors too. The Minister is right, time to invest in a good coalpot.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby adnj » October 2nd, 2022, 7:21 pm

I don't know why Hoover needs a coalpot. He's been roasted over the coals by Redress all day.

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