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Who in your opinion, not who you prefer, will win the 2024 US presidential elections?

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 12th, 2025, 2:14 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Republicans re-introduce a bill to abolish OSHA

Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, a Republican, recently reintroduced legislation to abolish OSHA, which is part of the U.S. Department of Labor. The bill, called the Nullify Occupational Safety and Health Administration Act, has been nicknamed “NOSHA.”

https://time.com/7213433/what-is-osha-r ... s-disband/
US can do as they please.

OSHA is not serious, the UK is the better option as they take health & safety to the law books.

Laws don't seem to matter for some - the ICC and ICJ rulings are skirted


Like South Africa and Mongolia

It doesn't count if the state isn't a member?


Neither Israel or the US are members of the ICC

South Africa and Mongolia are members of the the ICC and both declined to arrest persons on ICC Warrants.
In South Africa's case the person on a warrant is wanted for an actual genocide - hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced.

The world order is as it has always been - Allyship before Justice
The US is no different from the vast majority of countries in the world when it comes to subjectivity.

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Doesn't make it right


Right wrong, its all relative to your position and power in the world order.

However which is more egregious - Two signatories to the ICC disregarding it or two non signatories to the ICC not giving a damn about it?

At least Israel and the US not sanctimonious as the South Africans who have the absolute balls to initiate an ICC case given their history of disregard to African genocide

That depends on the reasoning for not joining in the first place

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby SuperiorMan » February 12th, 2025, 2:49 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Republicans re-introduce a bill to abolish OSHA

Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, a Republican, recently reintroduced legislation to abolish OSHA, which is part of the U.S. Department of Labor. The bill, called the Nullify Occupational Safety and Health Administration Act, has been nicknamed “NOSHA.”

https://time.com/7213433/what-is-osha-r ... s-disband/
US can do as they please.

OSHA is not serious, the UK is the better option as they take health & safety to the law books.


As Putin said, Europeans wag their tails to their master Trump.

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby Dizzy28 » February 12th, 2025, 3:21 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
zoom rader wrote:US can do as they please.

OSHA is not serious, the UK is the better option as they take health & safety to the law books.

Laws don't seem to matter for some - the ICC and ICJ rulings are skirted


Like South Africa and Mongolia

It doesn't count if the state isn't a member?


Neither Israel or the US are members of the ICC

South Africa and Mongolia are members of the the ICC and both declined to arrest persons on ICC Warrants.
In South Africa's case the person on a warrant is wanted for an actual genocide - hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced.

The world order is as it has always been - Allyship before Justice
The US is no different from the vast majority of countries in the world when it comes to subjectivity.

Capture.JPG

Doesn't make it right


Right wrong, its all relative to your position and power in the world order.

However which is more egregious - Two signatories to the ICC disregarding it or two non signatories to the ICC not giving a damn about it?

At least Israel and the US not sanctimonious as the South Africans who have the absolute balls to initiate an ICC case given their history of disregard to African genocide

That depends on the reasoning for not joining in the first place


You need to know why a voluntary programme was not voluntarily joined by the US and not why the voluntary members SA and Mongolia are not living up to the legal obligations they voluntarily acceded to?
https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/f ... atters.pdf
Cool!!

Anyhows 34% of the world's countries and territories have not signed. When you consider that that includes China, India, Pakistan, USA, Indonesia, Turkey, USA then a majority of Humanity is not covered. Clearly there is enough doubt in the institution to warrant 3 of the 5 Permanent Security Council countries to not be members. Maybe we can ask any Jamaican tuner users to say why Jamaica never joined.

However countries that looked past all that and signed on but then not live up to their contractual obligations...that is a whole different kettle of fish.

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 12th, 2025, 3:36 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Laws don't seem to matter for some - the ICC and ICJ rulings are skirted


Like South Africa and Mongolia

It doesn't count if the state isn't a member?


Neither Israel or the US are members of the ICC

South Africa and Mongolia are members of the the ICC and both declined to arrest persons on ICC Warrants.
In South Africa's case the person on a warrant is wanted for an actual genocide - hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced.

The world order is as it has always been - Allyship before Justice
The US is no different from the vast majority of countries in the world when it comes to subjectivity.

Capture.JPG

Doesn't make it right


Right wrong, its all relative to your position and power in the world order.

However which is more egregious - Two signatories to the ICC disregarding it or two non signatories to the ICC not giving a damn about it?

At least Israel and the US not sanctimonious as the South Africans who have the absolute balls to initiate an ICC case given their history of disregard to African genocide

That depends on the reasoning for not joining in the first place


You need to know why a voluntary programme was not voluntarily joined by the US and not why the voluntary members SA and Mongolia are not living up to the legal obligations they voluntarily acceded to?
https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/f ... atters.pdf
Cool!!

Anyhows 34% of the world's countries and territories have not signed. When you consider that that includes China, India, Pakistan, USA, Indonesia, Turkey, USA then a majority of Humanity is not covered. Clearly there is enough doubt in the institution to warrant 3 of the 5 Permanent Security Council countries to not be members. Maybe we can ask any Jamaican tuner users to say why Jamaica never joined.

However countries that looked past all that and signed on but then not live up to their contractual obligations...that is a whole different kettle of fish.

The number or majority isn’t a concern. Numbers dont make something right.
You are saying that a state has no right to make any claim because they skirted a responsibility at one point in time which you find to be hypocritical.
And put no stock into morality of another specific case.

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 12th, 2025, 3:37 pm

In other news
A bill was introduced in Congress to authorize the US President to enter into negotiations to acquire Greenland and to rename Greenland as ‘‘Red, White, and Blueland’’.
https://www.congress.gov/119/bills/hr11 ... 1161ih.pdf

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby Dizzy28 » February 12th, 2025, 4:31 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Like South Africa and Mongolia

It doesn't count if the state isn't a member?


Neither Israel or the US are members of the ICC

South Africa and Mongolia are members of the the ICC and both declined to arrest persons on ICC Warrants.
In South Africa's case the person on a warrant is wanted for an actual genocide - hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced.

The world order is as it has always been - Allyship before Justice
The US is no different from the vast majority of countries in the world when it comes to subjectivity.

Capture.JPG

Doesn't make it right


Right wrong, its all relative to your position and power in the world order.

However which is more egregious - Two signatories to the ICC disregarding it or two non signatories to the ICC not giving a damn about it?

At least Israel and the US not sanctimonious as the South Africans who have the absolute balls to initiate an ICC case given their history of disregard to African genocide

That depends on the reasoning for not joining in the first place


You need to know why a voluntary programme was not voluntarily joined by the US and not why the voluntary members SA and Mongolia are not living up to the legal obligations they voluntarily acceded to?
https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/f ... atters.pdf
Cool!!

Anyhows 34% of the world's countries and territories have not signed. When you consider that that includes China, India, Pakistan, USA, Indonesia, Turkey, USA then a majority of Humanity is not covered. Clearly there is enough doubt in the institution to warrant 3 of the 5 Permanent Security Council countries to not be members. Maybe we can ask any Jamaican tuner users to say why Jamaica never joined.

However countries that looked past all that and signed on but then not live up to their contractual obligations...that is a whole different kettle of fish.

The number or majority isn’t a concern. Numbers dont make something right.
You are saying that a state has no right to make any claim because they skirted a responsibility at one point in time which you find to be hypocritical.
And put no stock into morality of another specific case.


It was not skirting responsibility one time. It just so happens that also in 2023 a conflict started that is also ongoing and it is also affecting basically mainly Arab Muslims. More, much much more people have died in that conflict than in the one that gathers all the rage. The ICC banton who so wants to prosecute Israel has actually not only been unbothered by human suffering there but has also welcomed one of the leaders in that other current conflict to their country and wined and dined him. So no I do not put stock into the morality of South Africa with any case. It would be much more palatable if they said they actually have an agenda against Israel because of the historic closeness of the Israelis with the Apartheid era SA govnt. In this case it would make absolute sense why they are so selective in who and when they choose to use the ICC for.

All that to say morality is clearly a sliding scale for the countries involved in policing conflicts globally and even here on Tuner.

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 12th, 2025, 5:05 pm

The art of tu quoque and red herrings

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby Dizzy28 » February 12th, 2025, 8:25 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:The art of tu quoque and red herrings
So Diplomacy?

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Postby bluefete » February 12th, 2025, 8:50 pm

You cannot make this up but it is very, very scary.

King Donald Trump is basically saying FU to the rest of the world and I can do what I want and no one can stop me because I have a mandate from the US people.

His mandate is to rule the USA, not to take over other people's countries by decree.

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:In other news
A bill was introduced in Congress to authorize the US President to enter into negotiations to acquire Greenland and to rename Greenland as ‘‘Red, White, and Blueland’’.
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Postby st7 » February 12th, 2025, 9:11 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:In other news
A bill was introduced in Congress to authorize the US President to enter into negotiations to acquire Greenland and to rename Greenland as ‘‘Red, White, and Blueland’’.
https://www.congress.gov/119/bills/hr11 ... 1161ih.pdf

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i thought Biden was the one losing his mind

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby DMan7 » February 12th, 2025, 9:12 pm

If he takes over T&T would all our currency soon be transformed to USD? :D

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 12th, 2025, 11:05 pm

Thousands of Danes sign petition to buy California from U.S.



to be renamed New Denmark and Disneyland name changed to Hans Christian Anderson Land

it's satire but genius

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 12th, 2025, 11:16 pm

Musk says "the Public's elected representatives, the president, the house and the Senate decide what happens as opposed to a large unelected bureaucracy" - but isn't that him?


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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby bluefete » February 13th, 2025, 7:56 pm

All hail Emperor Donald:

T&T Better Get Its Act Together

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/us/p ... riffs.html

Trump Says He’ll Rework Global Trading Relations With ‘Reciprocal’ Tariffs

The president said his advisers would devise new tariff levels reflecting countries’ tariffs, taxes, subsidies and other policies affecting trade with the United States.

President Trump on Thursday set in motion a plan for new tariffs on other countries globally, an ambitious move that could shatter the rules of global trading and is likely to set off furious negotiations.

The president directed his advisers to come up with new tariff levels that take into account a range of trade barriers and other economic approaches adopted by America’s trading partners. That includes not only the tariffs that other countries charge the United States, but also the taxes they charge on foreign products, the subsidies they give their industries, their exchange rates, and other behaviors the president deems unfair.

The president has said the step was necessary to even out America’s “unfair” relationships and stop other countries from taking advantage of the United States on trade. But he made clear that his ultimate goal was to force companies to bring their manufacturing back to the United States.

“If you build your product in the United States, there are no tariffs,” he said during remarks in the Oval Office.

The decision to rework the tariffs that America charges on imported goods would represent a dramatic overhaul of the global trading system. For decades, the United States has set its tariff levels through negotiations at international trade bodies like the World Trade Organization.

Setting new levies — likely to be higher than what the United States charges today — would effectively scrap that system in favor of one determined solely by U.S. officials and based on their own criteria.

Nearly every country would be affected, but the move could have particularly significant consequences for India, Japan and the European Union.

Mr. Trump and his staff members have repeatedly pointed to Europe’s value-added tax as an additional injustice on top of tariffs.

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby bluefete » February 13th, 2025, 8:25 pm

Britain at risk of £24BILLION blow to economy: UK could be hit by multi-billion pound raid after Donald Trump vows to impose 'reciprocal tariffs' on countries that charge VAT

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... riffs.html

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby Supra GT-FOUR » February 13th, 2025, 10:41 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Musk says "the Public's elected representatives, the president, the house and the Senate decide what happens as opposed to a large unelected bureaucracy" - but isn't that him?





Got to hand it to Thunderfoot he has been calling musk out for years.

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Postby st7 » February 13th, 2025, 10:50 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Musk says "the Public's elected representatives, the president, the house and the Senate decide what happens as opposed to a large unelected bureaucracy" - but isn't that him?



lol ent!

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby matr1x » February 14th, 2025, 11:12 am

The people who vex dey are ppl who was tiefing for years. Now he close the door for them

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Postby bluefete » February 14th, 2025, 11:24 am

matr1x wrote:The people who vex dey are ppl who was tiefing for years. Now he close the door for them


So he could thief more for himself.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documen ... ut-pending

Rubio Campaign Press Release - Trump University is an Absolute Scam. Get the Facts About Pending Litigation.
March 04, 2016
Ent he is Secretary of State now - UNDER DONALD TRUMP?

The Facts:

Trump University was "mired in fraud and deception."


"Trump is facing three separate lawsuits — two class action suits filed in California and one filed by New York's attorney general — which argue the program that took in an estimated $40 million, but was mired in fraud and deception. … 'We started looking at Trump University and discovered that it was a classic bait-and-switch scheme. It was a scam, starting with the fact that it was not a university,' New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman told CNN's New Day after filing suit in 2013." (CNN, 9/30/15)

LOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 14th, 2025, 11:24 am

At least 5 Inspector Generals who were investigating Musk's companies have been fired by the Trump administration
Musk had over $3B in federal contracts in 2024

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby matr1x » February 14th, 2025, 11:44 am

bluefete wrote:
matr1x wrote:The people who vex dey are ppl who was tiefing for years. Now he close the door for them


So he could thief more for himself.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documen ... ut-pending

Rubio Campaign Press Release - Trump University is an Absolute Scam. Get the Facts About Pending Litigation.
March 04, 2016
Ent he is Secretary of State now - UNDER DONALD TRUMP?

The Facts:

Trump University was "mired in fraud and deception."


"Trump is facing three separate lawsuits — two class action suits filed in California and one filed by New York's attorney general — which argue the program that took in an estimated $40 million, but was mired in fraud and deception. … 'We started looking at Trump University and discovered that it was a classic bait-and-switch scheme. It was a scam, starting with the fact that it was not a university,' New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman told CNN's New Day after filing suit in 2013." (CNN, 9/30/15)

LOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL



Maybe. Or maybe not. What we do know, there were scammers taking money. Now it's times to take the fight to his political opponents

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Postby matr1x » February 14th, 2025, 11:50 am

Hopefully he pardons the officer who was wrongly convicted for ending Flyod life.

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Postby bluefete » February 14th, 2025, 12:27 pm

matr1x wrote:
bluefete wrote:
matr1x wrote:The people who vex dey are ppl who was tiefing for years. Now he close the door for them


So he could thief more for himself.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documen ... ut-pending

Rubio Campaign Press Release - Trump University is an Absolute Scam. Get the Facts About Pending Litigation.
March 04, 2016
Ent he is Secretary of State now - UNDER DONALD TRUMP?

The Facts:

Trump University was "mired in fraud and deception."


"Trump is facing three separate lawsuits — two class action suits filed in California and one filed by New York's attorney general — which argue the program that took in an estimated $40 million, but was mired in fraud and deception. … 'We started looking at Trump University and discovered that it was a classic bait-and-switch scheme. It was a scam, starting with the fact that it was not a university,' New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman told CNN's New Day after filing suit in 2013." (CNN, 9/30/15)

LOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL



Maybe. Or maybe not. What we do know, there were scammers taking money. Now it's times to take the fight to his political opponents


Why you making excuses for a fraudster?

Judge finalizes $25 million settlement for 'victims of Donald Trump's fraudulent university'

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-finaliz ... d=54347237

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Re: 2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

Postby MaxPower » February 14th, 2025, 12:34 pm

matr1x wrote:Hopefully he pardons the officer who was wrongly convicted for ending Flyod life.


X3000

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Postby bluefete » February 14th, 2025, 12:36 pm

People putting on blinkers for Trump like how they put on blinkers for PNM and UNC.

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Postby matr1x » February 14th, 2025, 6:38 pm

bluefete wrote:People putting on blinkers for Trump like how they put on blinkers for PNM and UNC.



Has he done anything wrong?

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Postby MaxPower » February 15th, 2025, 12:17 am

noon today

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Postby SuperiorMan » February 15th, 2025, 9:17 am

Let's be honest Trump is doing a great job. Even the liberals know this.

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Postby hover11 » February 15th, 2025, 9:19 am

SuperiorMan wrote:Let's be honest Trump is doing a great job. Even the liberals know this.
Of course he is. Imagine biden was taking tax payers money to give to other countries to fund LGBT shows and research on seatbelts. Trump is a performer

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Postby zoom rader » February 15th, 2025, 9:28 am

Many of you idiots are not seeing the direction the US is heading. Please read and research from other sources.

DEI has begun, and the notion is to limit black people advancement in education, profession, and workplace. At the moment, black folk are educated and are an eyesore to lesser educated white folk. Musk has already tweeted that black folk should not be pilots because they lack the intelligence. Again, please research this.
https://pnpi.org/factsheets/black-stude ... %2034.8%25.

The issue with DEI is that Black folk are a small percentage of this. It is white women who have benefited the most, and most people do not know this. It was assumed that Black folk was the top receivers of DEI. The stats don't show this. Again, please research this fact.
https://www.levelman.com/why-white-wome ... 0milestone.

Trump has done away with Dept of Education. This is to break it up and leave it up to the states to manage this. By doing this u limit funding to Black students and thus derailing their education. Yet still, black folk are accustomed to this and always find a means to educate themselves.

Why try to derail Black education? Simple you mass deport illegal & legal immigrants saying they are causing crime and leave those lower level jobs opened for black folk.

So kill black education and have them work in lower paying jobs. Remember when Trump said they are taking away the black jobs ? Well, this is what he meant. To put black people back in lower level jobs.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnew ... rcna159375

What is also happening is that Trump will be giving out education vouchers for those into the private school system and universities. The vouchers is set to return
https://truthout.org/articles/school-vo ... c-schools/

Affirmative action has stopped, so there are no more quotas. Again, it was assumed that black folk was the main recipient of affirmative action, but the data shows that black folk choose to go to HBCs.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/a-su ... ve-action/

The issue with private education and white universities is that dont have to give a reason to accept a back student. To get this voucher, you must be accepted. The voucher is designed for rich white folk to claim their money back.

With all these measures in place to limit black folk it will do nothing. Black folk have gotten little and they always get by so they expect it.

Putting black people back in to low paying jobs, well that's not going to happen. Black people will simply say no.

Then you have Trumps plan of giving green cards for those foreign students who get a university degree. Well, that is designed for European white folk. Already, there is an African and Muslim travel ban.
https://www.niacouncil.org/news/frequen ... ravel-ban/

Maga is all about limiting black folk while pushing up white folk. It white folk that are education limited and are the most drug users.
https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/04/05/wh ... nics-12804

Asian Americans had the highest educational attainment of any race, followed by whites who had a higher percentage of high school graduates but a lower percentage of college graduates. Persons identifying as Hispanic or Latino, without regard to race, had the lowest educational attainment.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educati ... attainment.

Black people in US have come a long way in education and jobs in the US, white people just can't handle this.

When you look at it, it is white people who are lazy and jobless. Most have drug and mental issues.

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