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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby j.o.e » March 1st, 2021, 11:54 am

hustla_ambition101 wrote:Just obey the laws and it wont bean issue.....simple


Exactly !!! None of the fines etc concern me. Do the right thing, maintain your vehicle, don’t break road regulations. It’s way cheaper.

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Postby pugboy » March 1st, 2021, 11:57 am

the insurance companies rates gonna be discounted based too if you have zero points

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Postby redmanjp » March 1st, 2021, 2:05 pm

pugboy wrote:the insurance companies rates gonna be discounted based too if you have zero points


or maybe remain the same if u have no points, but increase when you do get points.

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Postby adnj » March 1st, 2021, 6:05 pm

redmanjp wrote:
pugboy wrote:the insurance companies rates gonna be discounted based too if you have zero points


or maybe remain the same if u have no points, but increase when you do get points.
However you view it, expect to pay more for insurance if you have points. From the UK:

Does insurance go up if you get points?

The more points you have on your licence, the more expensive your insurance is likely to be. If you have three points on your licence for an offence like speeding or not complying with traffic lights, your car insurance could increase by 5%. If you have more than 12 points on your record, the annual cost of your insurance could rise by 89%.

However, insurers often charge more if drivers have speeding-related offences, even if they have fewer points. This is because the risk factor assumes those speeding are more likely to cause an accident.

If you accrue more than 12 points on your licence within a three-year period, you will have your licence revoked and will not be able to purchase car insurance. The period of the disqualification will be up to a court decision, but if the ban lasts for 56 days or more, you will need to apply for a new licence.

New drivers can have their licence suspended after receiving six points and will have to pass a new test in order to get their licence back.

According to ThisIsMoney and the Institute of Advanced Motorists, receiving between one and three points on your licence will only increase the price of your insurance by 5%. However, more than 12 points can almost double the cost.

https://www.adrianflux.co.uk/blog/2020/ ... oints.html

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Postby elec2020 » March 1st, 2021, 6:14 pm

Thats the uk. Not tnt. Case in point my insurance was renewed february and they didn't even inquire if i had demerit points.

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Postby pugboy » March 1st, 2021, 6:52 pm

its coming soon, dont worry.

elec2020 wrote:Thats the uk. Not tnt. Case in point my insurance was renewed february and they didn't even inquire if i had demerit points.

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Postby adnj » March 1st, 2021, 7:50 pm

pugboy wrote:its coming soon, dont worry.

elec2020 wrote:Thats the uk. Not tnt. Case in point my insurance was renewed february and they didn't even inquire if i had demerit points.
You already provided all the information required to check the driving record for every covered person on your policy.

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Postby elec2020 » March 1st, 2021, 8:12 pm

They never mentioned it. Never. And your insurer is supposed to update u on any new criterion added to determine reinsurance rates (case i point there have been several articles that reinshrance rates will rise due to the in rease in occurence of natural disasters as well as forex issues... i saw none with respect to demerit points). Further, i saw everything the young lady did when renewing my policy. At no point in time did she go to mowt and see if my dp had demerit points. If u faced different then please say/indicate that. Else please do not scaremonger.

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Postby elec2020 » March 1st, 2021, 8:13 pm

pugboy wrote:its coming soon, dont worry.

elec2020 wrote:Thats the uk. Not tnt. Case in point my insurance was renewed february and they didn't even inquire if i had demerit points.


Wouldn't doubt it. But as it stands right now (based on what i experienced) its not present.

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Postby ProtonPowder » March 1st, 2021, 10:13 pm

all they need is your DOB and DP# to check your demerit points on the MOWT website, i sure they might already be doing it quietly since it takes 30 seconds or less.

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Postby adnj » March 2nd, 2021, 3:47 am

elec2020 wrote:They never mentioned it. Never. And your insurer is supposed to update u on any new criterion added to determine reinsurance rates (case i point there have been several articles that reinshrance rates will rise due to the in rease in occurence of natural disasters as well as forex issues... i saw none with respect to demerit points). Further, i saw everything the young lady did when renewing my policy. At no point in time did she go to mowt and see if my dp had demerit points. If u faced different then please say/indicate that. Else please do not scaremonger.
Your claims history and driving record are the key factors that drive your automobile insurance premium. I would expect that how your premiums are calculated will be changed to include demerits. But you can decide for yourself if Maritime wants to charge everyone the same premiums or not.

From MOWT a year ago:

https://drivingtt.com/do-demerits-affect-insurance/

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Postby pugboy » March 2nd, 2021, 5:50 am

insurance is usually tilted in favour of the company and they will always adjust to suit themselves

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Postby elec2020 » March 2nd, 2021, 7:33 am

adnj wrote:
elec2020 wrote:They never mentioned it. Never. And your insurer is supposed to update u on any new criterion added to determine reinsurance rates (case i point there have been several articles that reinshrance rates will rise due to the in rease in occurence of natural disasters as well as forex issues... i saw none with respect to demerit points). Further, i saw everything the young lady did when renewing my policy. At no point in time did she go to mowt and see if my dp had demerit points. If u faced different then please say/indicate that. Else please do not scaremonger.
Your claims history and driving record are the key factors that drive your automobile insurance premium. I would expect that how your premiums are calculated will be changed to include demerits. But you can decide for yourself if Maritime wants to charge everyone the same premiums or not.

From MOWT a year ago:

https://drivingtt.com/do-demerits-affect-insurance/


in that same video the guy said it doesn't. then he goes on to say it could overtime. that is my argument. at this point in time it does not appear to be used by insurers. but overtime it could.

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Postby pugboy » March 2nd, 2021, 7:45 am

companies are presently gearing to put notices about this
expect them in the media this month
but at least it wont be for the next insurance period which could at most a year away

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Postby 16 cycles » March 2nd, 2021, 7:51 am

Are there demerits for plying a car on P plates? (Ph)

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Postby matix » March 2nd, 2021, 8:26 am

16 cycles wrote:Are there demerits for plying a car on P plates? (Ph)




One would hope so, unless they have an exemption from uncle jack.

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Postby sMASH » March 2nd, 2021, 8:36 am

matix wrote:
16 cycles wrote:Are there demerits for plying a car on P plates? (Ph)




One would hope so, unless they have an exemption from uncle jack.

https://drivingtt.com/offences-fines-demerits/
google says no... its aokay to ply ur private car for hire.

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Postby adnj » March 2nd, 2021, 9:08 am

sMASH wrote:
matix wrote:
16 cycles wrote:Are there demerits for plying a car on P plates? (Ph)




One would hope so, unless they have an exemption from uncle jack.

https://drivingtt.com/offences-fines-demerits/
google says no... its aokay to ply ur private car for hire.
Using or altering a motor vehicle or trailer for a purpose not authorized by the registration or Licensing Authority. $1000. 3 demerits.

Failing to produce taxi driver's badge and license on demand. $450. 2 demerits.

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Postby redmanjp » March 2nd, 2021, 9:36 am

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/02/new-driving-regulations-tests-coming/

New driving, regulations tests coming
In the coming months, Transport Commissioner Clive Clarke will introduce a new regulations test for class three vehicles and new driving tests for first-issue permits.

These changes are aimed at improving the quality of drivers, reducing accidents and road fatalities and consequently saving lives.

Newsday spoke with Clarke on Monday, when he touched on some of his plans for the continued modification of the Transport Division.

He intends to introduce a revised regulations exam and criteria for driving tests.

For the new driving test, the student will be required to perform a self-check on the car before beginning the yard test, in which the student is required to make a three-point turn, in a box, without touching the line.

We want to ensure that before someone sits in a vehicle, the requirement is that students check the vehicle before they drive. You must be able to see if the brake light is working, ensure the vehicle carries an inspection sticker. All this is part of driving, not just 'sit in a vehicle and adjust the seatbelt.'”

Students unable to do a proper check will fail the test.


The Traffic Management branch is already working to ensure all boxes for the three-point turn are the same size at all licensing offices.

For the road test, Clarke said one officer will be assigned to do yard tests and a different officer will do the road test.

“We want to see if we could ramp up the staff so we don't have one person doing both the yard and road test, because we believe that it's not healthy for operation and should be done by different parties. But due to the resource challenges, we have not been doing that.

“We are also looking very carefully at systems whereby we can bring mechanisms that can give you (the learner driver) a warning when you touch the line – there'll be a notification. So you cannot suggest to the examiner, 'I didn't touch the pole or line,' – so to move that subjectivity from the students.”

He said another major focus is to develop a standardised driving test where every student has the same experience.

“We have had situations where some students may drive two miles, some drive one, some drive half of a mile and without any proper measuring mechanism. So we are seeking to bring systems in place that we will ensure that that vehicle will cover the required distance with the student in the vehicle. We will have adequate GPS tracking to monitor that that vehicle covered the required mileage.”

This is to ensure the student has adequate experience to qualify for a permit.

He said ensuring every student has an equal experience usually goes hand in hand with ensuring the driving test routes are suitable. So another aim is to have the proper signage. “We don't have all the adequate signs. Some would do a driving test and it's only two signs they would see.”

The new driving test will be rolled out over two years, but the new regulations test will be implemented within the next two months.

“The content (of the regulations) will change and even some of the rules that govern the exam. We realised exams are one in which people can almost predict and, while I have no challenge with that, we don't think the exam content seeks to address the challenges (on the road) that are being faced right now.

“We don't think the exam content deals with the new system, the new laws, the speed as well as the fixed penalty, the penalty for tinting.”

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Postby VexXx Dogg » March 2nd, 2021, 10:06 am

^ very good
won't stop the LO bribe bobol, but at leasts the tests will be fairly standardised and monitored

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Postby sMASH » March 2nd, 2021, 10:07 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
matix wrote:
16 cycles wrote:Are there demerits for plying a car on P plates? (Ph)




One would hope so, unless they have an exemption from uncle jack.

https://drivingtt.com/offences-fines-demerits/
google says no... its aokay to ply ur private car for hire.
Using or altering a motor vehicle or trailer for a purpose not authorized by the registration or Licensing Authority. $1000. 3 demerits.

Failing to produce taxi driver's badge and license on demand. $450. 2 demerits.

first one seems like adding a spoiler to ur van or lifting it. modifying the physical make up to what not authorized.
second one is producing documents. if ur a p car, ur documents are the permit and insurance,,, valid. for h would include the taxi badge, and not sure if maxi and buses have some additional one.

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Postby AllhailMuttley » March 2nd, 2021, 10:28 am

Regarding the self check for the brake light in the driving test, how is the student to check the brake lights at the back of the vehicle?

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Postby adnj » March 2nd, 2021, 11:07 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
matix wrote:
16 cycles wrote:Are there demerits for plying a car on P plates? (Ph)




One would hope so, unless they have an exemption from uncle jack.

https://drivingtt.com/offences-fines-demerits/
google says no... its aokay to ply ur private car for hire.
Using or altering a motor vehicle or trailer for a purpose not authorized by the registration or Licensing Authority. $1000. 3 demerits.

Failing to produce taxi driver's badge and license on demand. $450. 2 demerits.

first one seems like adding a spoiler to ur van or lifting it. modifying the physical make up to what not authorized.
second one is producing documents. if ur a p car, ur documents are the permit and insurance,,, valid. for h would include the taxi badge, and not sure if maxi and buses have some additional one.


A couple of years ago, the Appellate Court ruled that driving a private car for hire was illegal; and that driving any car for hire without a taxi driver's permit was also illegal; even if there was tacit approval of the practice.

https://newsday.co.tt/2018/08/22/appeal ... assengers/

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Postby sMASH » March 2nd, 2021, 11:35 am

i know its illegal, but its a traffic offence that will not earn points.

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Postby adnj » March 2nd, 2021, 11:39 am

sMASH wrote:i know its illegal, but its a traffic offence that will not earn points.
It does now.

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Postby nick639v2 » October 19th, 2021, 8:05 pm

Tint exempt forms have now started to roll out, may the odds be in your favour!

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Postby zoom rader » October 19th, 2021, 8:28 pm

nick639v2 wrote:Tint exempt forms have now started to roll out, may the odds be in your favour!
1% and red government slave owners don't have that problem

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Postby nick639v2 » October 20th, 2021, 12:19 am

zoom rader wrote:
nick639v2 wrote:Tint exempt forms have now started to roll out, may the odds be in your favour!
1% and red government slave owners don't have that problem
Appearance of justice maybe or did I manage to fit through the best?? I'm in no way a 1% or a govt slave owner but I got the call to pick mine up from LO

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Postby daring dragoon » October 20th, 2021, 5:05 am

nick639v2 wrote:Tint exempt forms have now started to roll out, may the odds be in your favour!


when you say roll out you mean they now start to process? i send in mine since earlier in the year and have not heard anything from them since.

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Postby zoom rader » October 20th, 2021, 6:12 am

nick639v2 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
nick639v2 wrote:Tint exempt forms have now started to roll out, may the odds be in your favour!
1% and red government slave owners don't have that problem
Appearance of justice maybe or did I manage to fit through the best?? I'm in no way a 1% or a govt slave owner but I got the call to pick mine up from LO
Bro , you got a call to pick yours up that's good .

The people that I described they phone in their demands without any hassle and its delived to them.

It's all corrupted , rules apply only to certain ppl

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