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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby White CZ4A » August 12th, 2012, 1:54 am

Rain like wow in south!

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby Alexy » August 12th, 2012, 2:07 am

just when yuh think south was spared... :(

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby *$kїđž!™ » August 12th, 2012, 2:25 am

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Two ... 84376.html

Two men die in 'Diego' mudslides
By Gyasi Gonzales gyasi.gonzales@trinidadexpress.com
Story Created: Aug 12, 2012 at 12:02 AM ECT
Story Updated: Aug 12, 2012 at 12:02 AM ECT
MUDSLIDES claimed the lives of two Diego Martin men yesterday, as residents in northwest Trinidad had to cope with impassable roads, thick mud in their homes, power outages and, in some areas, no telephone service.
In parts of Maraval, the effects of yesterday's heavy rains and flooding trapped five families in their homes.
Killed as he slept in his home was 65-year-old Solomon Britto, a retired mechanic and father of one who lived next to his sister at Richplain Road, Diego Martin.
The other man killed was Everald Bentham, 25, of Upper La Puerta in Diego Martin.
Britto's body was found almost three-quarters of a mile from where he lived, near a bridge along the Diego Martin Main Road close to the Khan and Sons Supermarket and Liquor Mart.
His sister, Rebecca Britto, spoke to the Sunday Express yesterday from the porch of her damaged home.
She recalled that around 4 a.m. yesterday, "I was sleeping and my son rushed out from his room and said how water washing through the place, and when I walk outside I see that my brother house wash away."
She said: "I know he was sleeping at the time because he sleeps late, but my son tried to get to him in his house but the water pressure was too much and he could not get to him and we had to leave our place and rush over by my brother-in-law (nearby)."
Britto said, "I living here 30 years now and something like this has never happened before."
Dion Leban, who was one of the two people who dragged Britto's body out of the mud yesterday, said, "We heard that a man got washed down in the landslide, and it was about ten o'clock when we found him below a sheet of plastic."
Bentham was killed around the same time as Britto.
He too was at his home at Upper La Puerta Avenue, which was covered in mud during yesterday's heavy rains, leaving him trapped.
Police and Fire Service officials believe he may have suffocated.
Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar said unconfirmed reports yesterday indicated that two other people were missing after the floods in the area.
The Police and Fire Service Disaster Response Unit and several crews from the Community Enhancement and Environment Protection Programme (CEPEP) were out yesterday performing clean-up duties.
In Maraval, Carenage and Glencoe, the situation was also grim.
Part of the La Horquette Valley Road, which leads into Glencoe, was washed away.
The Ministry of Works said a Bailey Bridge will be constructed along the road as soon as possible.
The Morne Coco Road from Petit Valley, which leads to Maraval, was affected as well, with a large chunk of the broken torn off in the Petit Valley area.
Adding to the frustrations of yesterday's disaster in Diego Martin was a bmobile cellular tower which had been blown down during heavy winds, leaving hundreds of customers without mobile telephone service.

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby *$kїđž!™ » August 12th, 2012, 2:30 am

from the satellitte images it looks like this week will be a bit more sunny,,,,

a lil clouds and trinidad in ah mess......god I pray for no hurricanes....

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby sMASH » August 12th, 2012, 2:34 am

alritey, rain was falling since before 12. it has picked up now, and the epic lightening is nearing....

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby gt4tified » August 12th, 2012, 5:52 am

Clear skies to the east, in Central Trinidad.

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby roshan01 » August 12th, 2012, 8:24 am

rain finally stopped in south..... :)

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby Dragular » August 12th, 2012, 8:41 am

rodneyghany wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
firstchoicett wrote:Well Sir Duane we can put things in place clean the drains and alot more to makesure and help the water drain faster. Build reinforcement walls where the land is caving down etc.
money doesnt prevent people from dumping garbage in water ways, money doesnt prevent people from squatting on hillsides or building large houses without infrastructure for heavy drainage.

there is large infrastructure for the Maraval river, however if there is too much rain the drainage system cannot handle it

the land was not caving down before it started raining this morning BTW, so I'm not sure what you wanted them to fix.

I'm not discounting that infrastructure is needed in Maraval and Diego Martin (even though both places already have massive drain systems). But simple physics dictates that valleys will flood when there is heavy rain.

We absolutely cannot survive a hurricane if a much smaller low pressure ITCZ activity caused this kind of damage - however the problem is not spending money - it may be getting thousands of people to relocate their houses since no proper planning was done prior.



This is so true



Totally agree. how many of those hillside dwellers have Town and Country approval or even a deed for that land.

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby VexXx Dogg » August 12th, 2012, 8:57 am

eliteauto wrote:
5onDfloor wrote:Cause there is a perception that they are never on top of situations... we always get Bulletins on or just before the disaster occurs.


In a case like this other than a weather bulletin there is no advance notification to be had, the ODPM is a coordinating agency, they work with first responders to get things in a gear, quite frankly in that aspect they do quite well, there are already shelters organised, heavy equipment dispatched and debris being cleared, utilities are working to restore service as we type. They are not responsible for the flooding, their task is to mitigate the effects of same in this instance


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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby firstchoicett » August 12th, 2012, 9:04 am

Dragular wrote:
rodneyghany wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
firstchoicett wrote:Well Sir Duane we can put things in place clean the drains and alot more to makesure and help the water drain faster. Build reinforcement walls where the land is caving down etc.
money doesnt prevent people from dumping garbage in water ways, money doesnt prevent people from squatting on hillsides or building large houses without infrastructure for heavy drainage.

there is large infrastructure for the Maraval river, however if there is too much rain the drainage system cannot handle it

the land was not caving down before it started raining this morning BTW, so I'm not sure what you wanted them to fix.

I'm not discounting that infrastructure is needed in Maraval and Diego Martin (even though both places already have massive drain systems). But simple physics dictates that valleys will flood when there is heavy rain.

We absolutely cannot survive a hurricane if a much smaller low pressure ITCZ activity caused this kind of damage - however the problem is not spending money - it may be getting thousands of people to relocate their houses since no proper planning was done prior.



This is so true



Totally agree. how many of those hillside dwellers have Town and Country approval or even a deed for that land.

them squatting we all know that.

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby wheelbarrow » August 12th, 2012, 9:06 am

Heard Pt Fortin flooded...
Can anyone confirm?

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby cornfused » August 12th, 2012, 9:50 am

Hillside development with out pepper drainage considerations and vegetation consideration has some issues ,that we are seeing in Carenage , Diego Martin , Maraval and Santa Cruz

Who is saying anything about a national hired company that straightened a a few hundred feet section of the upper water way of the Maraval River?

Also in the Maraval River and other rivers around our populations in Trinidad and Tobago , there must be a programme of dredging , pre season and in the season

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby TriP » August 12th, 2012, 10:16 am

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby shottah_crew » August 12th, 2012, 11:41 am

wheelbarrow wrote:Heard Pt Fortin flooded...
Can anyone confirm?


Haven't left home as yet for the morning, but heard nothing of the sort on my end. If there was any flooding, it's probably on one little piece of road by the ex-Jr. Sec. that usually floods as a result of poor drainage. No where near the chaos in those pics as he water is usually stagnant and there are very few structures in that area.

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby Xplode » August 12th, 2012, 11:48 am

digicel giving all customers $20 free credit, to help out flood victims, now received mine,good going for the red network.

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 12th, 2012, 1:19 pm

Flooding featured on the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the ... story.html
2 dead, 2 missing in Trinidad as tropical wave churns in eastern Caribbean
By Associated Press, Published: August 11

PORT-OF-SPAIN, Trinidad — Two people died and another two are missing in Trinidad as a tropical wave lashed the eastern Caribbean with heavy rains and wind, authorities said Saturday.

The victims died after heavy rainfall unleashed floods and mudslides in Trinidad’s western suburb of Diego Martin, relatives said. The dead were identified as 66-year-old Solomon Britto and 31-year-old Everold Bentham.

Bentham’s sister, Liz Bentham, told reporters that floodwater surged through their community early Saturday and that her mother and sister were able to leave the house. She said Everold Bentham initially left with them but that he returned to retrieve something from the house and died.

Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar declared Diego Martin a disaster area and said the government has opened two shelters.

Meteorologists had warned of heavy rains this weekend associated with the tropical wave that’s expected to dissipate after passing through the eastern Caribbean.

The U.S. National Hurricane Center said the tropical wave was located about 40 miles (65 kilometers) east of Barbados and moving west at 25 mph (41 kph) with winds of 35 mph (55 kph).

The hurricane center canceled a tropical storm watch for the eastern Caribbean late Saturday morning.

Copyright 2012 The Associated Press.


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Remains of TD 7 kill two in Trinidad; 93L too dry to develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:31 PM GMT on August 12, 2012 +18
The remains of Tropical Depression Seven brought heavy rains to Trinidad on Saturday, unleashing flooding and mudslides that killed two people and left two others missing in Diego Martin. The storm is headed westward at 20 mph across the Caribbean, but high wind shear of 15 - 25 knots should prevent the system from regenerating. None of the reliable models forecasts that TD 7 will regenerate, and the storm should arrive in Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula on Wednesday. In their 8 am Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave ex-TD 7 a 10% chance of becoming a tropical depression by Tuesday morning.

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby nervewrecker » August 12th, 2012, 1:45 pm

Imagine if a hurricane really hit.

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby JoKeR1980 » August 12th, 2012, 1:56 pm

seeing allyuh pics in the papers eh...watermark or do the journalists work for them....jus saying

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby S_2NR » August 12th, 2012, 2:00 pm

nervewrecker wrote:Imagine if a hurricane really hit.


typical trini wrote:nah, we doh hadda worry about that, god is ah trini!

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby streetbeastINC. » August 12th, 2012, 2:01 pm

aint it funny.....NOAA,Washington post etc are saying that we were affected by the TD. - those of us who kept an eye on the system knew that we were affected by it.....Yet the local metoffice says had nothing to do with the system and it ws indeed the ITCZ????--

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby cornfused » August 12th, 2012, 2:43 pm

Met Office vs Washington Post

I am unsure our local people were aware that this intensity of rainfall was expected, that's the job of the Met Office . Did they fall down ?

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Postby SRASC » August 12th, 2012, 7:03 pm

Parvin wrote:Serious lightning strike made a hole on the Piarco International Airport Ramp.

Saw a huge flash of light and though it was an explosion.


any pics of this?

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby EXODUS » August 12th, 2012, 8:04 pm

crap!!! the torrential rainfall last night cause epic flooding in south as well... but in north, damn!!!

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby tourniquet » August 12th, 2012, 8:14 pm

can't say I'm surprised....

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Postby Parvin » August 12th, 2012, 8:21 pm

SRASC wrote:
Parvin wrote:Serious lightning strike made a hole on the Piarco International Airport Ramp.

Saw a huge flash of light and though it was an explosion.


any pics of this?


Didn't get chance today bro.

I'll see if I get it before the week ends

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby firstchoicett » August 12th, 2012, 8:23 pm

Looks like rain tonight .

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby xtech » August 12th, 2012, 8:36 pm

Heard on news that people complaining how the relief works are most concentrated in the high income areas

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 12th, 2012, 8:42 pm

firstchoicett wrote:Looks like rain tonight .
how you figure that?

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby MadCrix » August 12th, 2012, 8:51 pm

same thign i wondering as it freakign hot in st james... would nto mind some rain, but i fraid if it rains deigo go be pressure tom, i was cleaning mud out of my sisters home whole saturday.. i eh wha do that again anytime soon

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Re: The official tropical weather thread: FLOOD PICS pg 18

Postby M_2NR » August 12th, 2012, 8:57 pm

Any word on people in south? did they get affected at all? Not trying to stir up any emotions or anything.

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