Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

[sinister_14]

^^^ Not from petro but I know some well informed people working there.
From what I've been told is that they want to cut the majority of the temp people so maybe around close to about 2xxx. I heard that they will begin to pool workers together. An example would be to have all the electrical men in one area instead of have them spread out to different areas. It will basically work like this, all electricians in one department, if it have a job they will send the required amount of workers, at that point they will be able to see how many people they really need for that specific department and cut the unnecessary workers and reduce overstaffing. This same principal will continue to other departments such as Mechanical, operations etc.
Also a good bit of the unessential admin staff will more than likely get let go.
They will bring in a large number of contractors to fill the void. It will be cheaper since you don't gotta pay no benefits and other things.
Remember all of this is speculative at the moment until the audit is complete, plus we're not sure how the union might react.

Hmmmm 2xxx plus wey...by the ending of this year only 50% of trinidad gonna be employed....pressure.....but was hearing they need to hire almost 200 ops cause as far as i heard 100 ops gonna retire cause they reach d age and they have 100 vacancy rite now....is this true??

[vaiostation]

^^^ Not from petro but I know some well informed people working there.
From what I've been told is that they want to cut the majority of the temp people so maybe around close to about 2xxx. I heard that they will begin to pool workers together. An example would be to have all the electrical men in one area instead of have them spread out to different areas. It will basically work like this, all electricians in one department, if it have a job they will send the required amount of workers, at that point they will be able to see how many people they really need for that specific department and cut the unnecessary workers and reduce overstaffing. This same principal will continue to other departments such as Mechanical, operations etc.
Also a good bit of the unessential admin staff will more than likely get let go.
They will bring in a large number of contractors to fill the void. It will be cheaper since you don't gotta pay no benefits and other things.
Remember all of this is speculative at the moment until the audit is complete, plus we're not sure how the union might react.

Hmmmm 2xxx plus wey...by the ending of this year only 50% of trinidad gonna be employed....pressure.....but was hearing they need to hire almost 200 ops cause as far as i heard 100 ops gonna retire cause they reach d age and they have 100 vacancy rite now....is this true??

From what I've heard they really want to cut close to half.
It is true that a lot of men in ops going to retire soon, as well as in other departments. These ads for ops men that was recently up, all of the planning for this was done since 2015-2016 so the company was indeed planning ahead. If a man hadda get through fair an square now is probably ya best chance, ya just gotta hope it have room left over after all the inside men done get through, cause the amount of men done panicking inside petro them just trying to go ops cause it permanent just to save they ass.

[sinister_14]

^^^ Not from petro but I know some well informed people working there.
From what I've been told is that they want to cut the majority of the temp people so maybe around close to about 2xxx. I heard that they will begin to pool workers together. An example would be to have all the electrical men in one area instead of have them spread out to different areas. It will basically work like this, all electricians in one department, if it have a job they will send the required amount of workers, at that point they will be able to see how many people they really need for that specific department and cut the unnecessary workers and reduce overstaffing. This same principal will continue to other departments such as Mechanical, operations etc.
Also a good bit of the unessential admin staff will more than likely get let go.
They will bring in a large number of contractors to fill the void. It will be cheaper since you don't gotta pay no benefits and other things.
Remember all of this is speculative at the moment until the audit is complete, plus we're not sure how the union might react.

Hmmmm 2xxx plus wey...by the ending of this year only 50% of trinidad gonna be employed....pressure.....but was hearing they need to hire almost 200 ops cause as far as i heard 100 ops gonna retire cause they reach d age and they have 100 vacancy rite now....is this true??

From what I've heard they really want to cut close to half.
It is true that a lot of men in ops going to retire soon, as well as in other departments. These ads for ops men that was recently up, all of the planning for this was done since 2015-2016 so the company was indeed planning ahead. If a man hadda get through fair an square now is probably ya best chance, ya just gotta hope it have room left over after all the inside men done get through, cause the amount of men done panicking inside petro them just trying to go ops cause it permanent just to save they ass.

But in order for them to get into that dept..they hadda be qualified and we all know them fellas them inside they ent have cxc most of them....cause i know almost 20 permanent men who ent finish secondary school and have good jobs there....cause they had links to pull them in....

[vaiostation]

^^^ Not from petro but I know some well informed people working there.
From what I've been told is that they want to cut the majority of the temp people so maybe around close to about 2xxx. I heard that they will begin to pool workers together. An example would be to have all the electrical men in one area instead of have them spread out to different areas. It will basically work like this, all electricians in one department, if it have a job they will send the required amount of workers, at that point they will be able to see how many people they really need for that specific department and cut the unnecessary workers and reduce overstaffing. This same principal will continue to other departments such as Mechanical, operations etc.
Also a good bit of the unessential admin staff will more than likely get let go.
They will bring in a large number of contractors to fill the void. It will be cheaper since you don't gotta pay no benefits and other things.
Remember all of this is speculative at the moment until the audit is complete, plus we're not sure how the union might react.

Hmmmm 2xxx plus wey...by the ending of this year only 50% of trinidad gonna be employed....pressure.....but was hearing they need to hire almost 200 ops cause as far as i heard 100 ops gonna retire cause they reach d age and they have 100 vacancy rite now....is this true??

From what I've heard they really want to cut close to half.
It is true that a lot of men in ops going to retire soon, as well as in other departments. These ads for ops men that was recently up, all of the planning for this was done since 2015-2016 so the company was indeed planning ahead. If a man hadda get through fair an square now is probably ya best chance, ya just gotta hope it have room left over after all the inside men done get through, cause the amount of men done panicking inside petro them just trying to go ops cause it permanent just to save they ass.

But in order for them to get into that dept..they hadda be qualified and we all know them fellas them inside they ent have cxc most of them....cause i know almost 20 permanent men who ent finish secondary school and have good jobs there....cause they had links to pull them in....

I personally know some men who got through in petrotrin without cxc, but they were very well trained crafts men and they knew men in high places to pull them in as well, I believe now hr is actually verify your certificates so they have to infact have the qualifications, but I'm not sure if it will overlooked if you have relevant experience. To me ops is to important of a department to be playing the friends and family game.
I did read the internal job advertisement and it did say you need at least 3 years experience with your diploma and cxc though.

[Monkey Man]

lol fella i think you should swallow the hard pill dat you not going to get inside deyy. even monky man can see that.

and dont give yuhself any false hope with this mythicel "audit". lol

[Helena_Victor]

So yesterday a friend of mines and my self went to personally hand in our resume at petrotrin HR...before entering the building a guy came outside...i ask him if its here they are handing in resume for RFO he said yes...he now handed in his....NOTE: this guy is of African decent.....on entering the office i asked where can i put these resume for RFO...THEY TOLD US TO APPLY ONLINE THEY NOT ACCEPTING ANY RESUME FOR REFINERY OPS HERE.....I WAS SHOCKED....IS IT BECAUSE THAT BOTH OF US ARE INDIAN???...they did not take our resume.....an they took the guy one who left 5min before....AND THE BOTH FEMALES EMPLOYEES WHO TOLD US THAT WERE OF AFRICAN DECENT...is this the manner in which these ppl conduct company business???...also i talked to a few of my other friends whole handed in their resume that same day....they said they had no problem they took our resume....NOTE MY OTHER FRIENDS ARE OF AFRICAN DESCENT....what you fellow trinituners have to say about that...ALSO TAKE IN TO CONSIDERATION THAT MY FRIEND AND I WHO WENT TO APPLY FOR THAT REFINERY OPS JOB WE ARE WELL QUALIFIED AND ARE TOP NOTCH OPS BOTH ON PAPER WORK AND IN FIELD AND DCS...WHAT ATTRACTED US WAS THE BENEFITS THAT PETROTRIN HAS FOR EMPLOYEES.....so i guess that if u do get your resume in make sure your last name is...JOHN...SMITH...PATRICK...ETC....NOT....harry...seepaul...or balkission...you will not have a chance...my friend....

I think they stopped taking hard copies after they realized how much they were getting because I had asked someone to drop in for me as well and they were blocked and told to apply online.

[Helena_Victor]

Hi do you all know if the Petrotrin Operator Apprenticeship programme is for males only?

[tr1ad]

Hi do you all know if the Petrotrin Operator Apprenticeship programme is for males only?

petrotrin supposed to be equal opportunity

[trinidrift]

Hi do you all know if the Petrotrin Operator Apprenticeship programme is for males only?

petrotrin supposed to be equal opportunity

Equal for who? The friends and family of petrotrin workers?

the only easy day was yesterday

[vaiostation]

Hi do you all know if the Petrotrin Operator Apprenticeship programme is for males only?

I don't think they have any female operators in the first place, so it wouldn't make sense to train them.
The craftsman apprenticeship does accept women though.
These companies not accepting female operators shouldn't surprise anyone though because it's only recently that certain companies in the estate started accepting females into the operations departments and even then it's quite a small number. IPSL is probably an exception cause they've got a decent number to females in ops.

[trinidrift]

I know upstream employs many females especially in ops and well intervention not only for onshore but also offshore. I know some women that makes 14 sometimes more like nothing

the only easy day was yesterday

[Cantmis]

Them female ops does cause trouble
But security....oh my...

[trinidrift]

Don't I know it especially when you try to be a good guy and not give in to their feminine wiles

the only easy day was yesterday

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Hi do you all know if the Petrotrin Operator Apprenticeship programme is for males only?

I have never seen a female operator in the refinery so I would have to say no.

[sinister_14]

So guy i got word today petro start calling in men to see their certificates.....anyone inside here get call...??

[trinidrift]

Nope. Anyone know if cgcltt start calling yet?

the only easy day was yesterday

[sinister_14]

Nope

the only easy day was yesterday

How?

[trinidrift]

Boy idk. If I could get help would be nice you don't know how bad I want it

[Helena_Victor]

So guy i got word today petro start calling in men to see their certificates.....anyone inside here get call...??

Those persons being called have to be the ones already working in petrotrin and just looking for a transfer in department. Its hard to believe that from only Tues that they organized everyone so quickly to call in.. Unless they really want to start training asap as in June.

[Helena_Victor]

Nope. Anyone know if cgcltt start calling yet?

the only easy day was yesterday

I would like to know d answer to that too and how much persons do u think they may actually hiring as process operators and engineers..

[Helena_Victor]

I had a feeling that they may not be hiring females but they need to state that in d ad.. Anyway that should change because why hire female process engineers n not operators??

[vaiostation]

I had a feeling that they may not be hiring females but they need to state that in d ad.. Anyway that should change because why hire female process engineers n not operators??

With respect to the not hiring females in operations there could be several reasons.
It could be that when the refinery was built there was only men working in the industry at the time, so facilities such as toilets or changing room are male only, so to redesign or construct these things to accommodate women will probably cost too much economically.
Another reason could be that it might cause issues(sexual harassment) with the men there, so simply to avoid it all together they just said no women.
A next reason might be that people think the job may be too physically demanding. Basically a stereotype but from what I've seen in the estate some women could hold down the fort, but some just can't make to turn some of the valves and mange some of the equipment (does make ya wonder how them get the job in the first place).

[trinidrift]

I remember a couple years back I met a woman working upstream offshore that couldn't even open the doors. She only got the job because she was lack of a better word f@*king the boss and some supervisors on the platform

[PapaC]

I remember a couple years back I met a woman working upstream offshore that couldn't even open the doors. She only got the job because she was lack of a better word f@*king the boss and some supervisors on the platform

While your contribution is welcomed, that happens in administrative offices as well.
So the validity or reference to the topic is missing.

[tr1ad]

yunno.....papa c, then again we both have come across many women that offshore and in the plants that could hold their own

with respect to cgcl, interviews have started; potential 45 vacancies - ops mostly and 6 engineers

[nervewrecker]

^^^ Not from petro but I know some well informed people working there.
From what I've been told is that they want to cut the majority of the temp people so maybe around close to about 2xxx. I heard that they will begin to pool workers together. An example would be to have all the electrical men in one area instead of have them spread out to different areas. It will basically work like this, all electricians in one department, if it have a job they will send the required amount of workers, at that point they will be able to see how many people they really need for that specific department and cut the unnecessary workers and reduce overstaffing. This same principal will continue to other departments such as Mechanical, operations etc.
Also a good bit of the unessential admin staff will more than likely get let go.
They will bring in a large number of contractors to fill the void. It will be cheaper since you don't gotta pay no benefits and other things.
Remember all of this is speculative at the moment until the audit is complete, plus we're not sure how the union might react.

Hmmmm 2xxx plus wey...by the ending of this year only 50% of trinidad gonna be employed....pressure.....but was hearing they need to hire almost 200 ops cause as far as i heard 100 ops gonna retire cause they reach d age and they have 100 vacancy rite now....is this true??

From what I've heard they really want to cut close to half.
It is true that a lot of men in ops going to retire soon, as well as in other departments. These ads for ops men that was recently up, all of the planning for this was done since 2015-2016 so the company was indeed planning ahead. If a man hadda get through fair an square now is probably ya best chance, ya just gotta hope it have room left over after all the inside men done get through, cause the amount of men done panicking inside petro them just trying to go ops cause it permanent just to save they ass.

But in order for them to get into that dept..they hadda be qualified and we all know them fellas them inside they ent have cxc most of them....cause i know almost 20 permanent men who ent finish secondary school and have good jobs there....cause they had links to pull them in....

I personally know some men who got through in petrotrin without cxc, but they were very well trained crafts men and they knew men in high places to pull them in as well, I believe now hr is actually verify your certificates so they have to infact have the qualifications, but I'm not sure if it will overlooked if you have relevant experience. To me ops is to important of a department to be playing the friends and family game.
I did read the internal job advertisement and it did say you need at least 3 years experience with your diploma and cxc though.

How long now these men employed there?
Roughly 20 years back nobody wanted to work there because the salary was next to nothing.
Petrotrin had to practically beg people to work for them. They hired the people who couldn't get jobs.

[nervewrecker]

Heard the same rumor vaiostation posted. They want to flood the pool with temps to cut men time and not have specific sub sections anymore

[sinister_14]

No my friend plenty of the resent hired as well have no qualification...

[trinidrift]

Remember the old guys started as apprentices​ at around 17/18 many didn't have any certification as we have now

[trinidrift]

But it is well known that they also operate with a legacy mentality. If your grandparents or parents working petrotrin you can bet your bottom dollar that you will be too. I know a couple​ of guys who got in because of mommy and daddy.