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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 21st, 2025, 1:08 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:‘Israel and its supporters are biggest threat to free speech’

'The single greatest threat to free speech at this point in time is Israel and its supporters,' renowned American political scientist Prof John Mearsheimer warned. Speaking on the 'Judging Freedom' podcast with Judge Andrew Napolitano, Mearsheimer expressed concern over increasing efforts to silence criticism of Israel, particularly in the context of the ongoing war in Gaza.

His remarks come following the detention of Mahmoud Khalil, an outspoken Palestinian activist, by US authorities pending deportation from the country. Khalil’s case has fuelled fears that pro-Palestinian voices are being systematically suppressed, both in the US and globally.

Mearsheimer, a co-author of 'The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy', has long argued that Israel’s influence on Western discourse stifles open debate. His latest statement adds to growing alarm over crackdowns on journalists, academics and activists who challenge Israeli policies.
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What a coincidence you would quote this man.

Wonder why????
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Hadda check him back in a couple months and see if he says the same thing

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 21st, 2025, 1:28 am

“We believe that the Palestinian state must be recognized in all its fullness.”

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum formally welcomed the Palestinian ambassador in her latest move to push for the international recognition of Palestine.

Sheinbaum, Mexico’s first president with Jewish heritage, has repeatedly advocated for Palestinian rights and condemned Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

The State of Palestine is recognized by 146 countries – about 75% of UN member states. While Mexican lawmakers passed a resolution to recognize Palestine in 2023, Sheinbaum’s predecessor, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, never formally implemented it.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 21st, 2025, 1:47 am

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BGkHJUQgL/


Not just 'ceasefire' but 'free Palestine'

Everyone knows the real issue ...Isreal is a fake country ... Just the name of an American air craft carrier


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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » March 21st, 2025, 7:06 am

sMASH wrote:“We believe that the Palestinian state must be recognized in all its fullness.”

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum formally welcomed the Palestinian ambassador in her latest move to push for the international recognition of Palestine.

Sheinbaum, Mexico’s first president with Jewish heritage, has repeatedly advocated for Palestinian rights and condemned Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

The State of Palestine is recognized by 146 countries – about 75% of UN member states. While Mexican lawmakers passed a resolution to recognize Palestine in 2023, Sheinbaum’s predecessor, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, never formally implemented it.
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Do you even know which boundaries the UN would recognize?

Fun fact it's not the 1948 one!!

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 21st, 2025, 8:10 am

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sMASH wrote:“We believe that the Palestinian state must be recognized in all its fullness.”

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum formally welcomed the Palestinian ambassador in her latest move to push for the international recognition of Palestine.

Sheinbaum, Mexico’s first president with Jewish heritage, has repeatedly advocated for Palestinian rights and condemned Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

The State of Palestine is recognized by 146 countries – about 75% of UN member states. While Mexican lawmakers passed a resolution to recognize Palestine in 2023, Sheinbaum’s predecessor, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, never formally implemented it.
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Do you even know which boundaries the UN would recognize?

Fun fact it's not the 1948 one!!
Step by step, inch by inch, year by year. In sha allah

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » March 21st, 2025, 9:01 am

sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:“We believe that the Palestinian state must be recognized in all its fullness.”

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum formally welcomed the Palestinian ambassador in her latest move to push for the international recognition of Palestine.

Sheinbaum, Mexico’s first president with Jewish heritage, has repeatedly advocated for Palestinian rights and condemned Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

The State of Palestine is recognized by 146 countries – about 75% of UN member states. While Mexican lawmakers passed a resolution to recognize Palestine in 2023, Sheinbaum’s predecessor, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, never formally implemented it.FB_IMG_1742534899014.jpg
Do you even know which boundaries the UN would recognize?

Fun fact it's not the 1948 one!!


Step by step, inch by inch, year by year. In sha allah[


Putin on Feb 19th 2022!!

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 21st, 2025, 10:05 am

Not about the morality of stealing from the ones ur killing, but it also indicates that the Israeli economy is not in a good state . They are umbilicalled to the US
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » March 21st, 2025, 10:12 am

sMASH wrote:Not about the morality of stealing from the ones ur killing, but it also indicates that the Israeli economy is not in a good state . They are umbilicalled to the US FB_IMG_1742565744464.jpg

According to you , morality is not an issue if the stealing from the ones you are killing didn't happen recently.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 21st, 2025, 10:13 am

What was the basis of the judgment?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby alfa » March 21st, 2025, 10:16 am

matr1x wrote:What was the basis of the judgment?

Chosen race needs money from the ones not chosen by Moses or whoever

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 21st, 2025, 10:31 am

No, the reasoning given in thr court judgment

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 21st, 2025, 11:11 am

matr1x wrote:No, the reasoning given in thr court judgment
They give bs reasonings anyways. They say any words to fill the blanks on the form to do what they want.
They need money,they have Palestine taxes , they say ABCXYZ123 and take the money.

This the reason Jesus came, to tell them not to manipulate laws for greedy purposes .

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 21st, 2025, 1:07 pm

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matr1x wrote:No, the reasoning given in thr court judgment
They give bs reasonings anyways. They say any words to fill the blanks on the form to do what they want.
They need money,they have Palestine taxes , they say ABCXYZ123 and take the money.

This the reason Jesus came, to tell them not to manipulate laws for greedy purposes .



Ah, there is the racism and bigot attitude we came to expect.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 21st, 2025, 2:16 pm

matr1x wrote:
sMASH wrote:
matr1x wrote:No, the reasoning given in thr court judgment
They give bs reasonings anyways. They say any words to fill the blanks on the form to do what they want.
They need money,they have Palestine taxes , they say ABCXYZ123 and take the money.

This the reason Jesus came, to tell them not to manipulate laws for greedy purposes .



Ah, there is the racism and bigot attitude we came to expect.
They steal the Palestinians land and murder them... Not ah ledge, that's a fact

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 21st, 2025, 2:19 pm

https://youtu.be/KwRMht9ktIo?si=VOnLzYChtHLaKZKJ


https://youtu.be/KwRMht9ktIo?si=VOnLzYChtHLaKZKJ

Say any nonsense cause they just want to kill the people and steal the land

Even right wing sky news had to call out israli lies .
Just liars , theives, murderers and pedophiles

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 21st, 2025, 2:52 pm

sMASH wrote:
matr1x wrote:
sMASH wrote:
matr1x wrote:No, the reasoning given in thr court judgment
They give bs reasonings anyways. They say any words to fill the blanks on the form to do what they want.
They need money,they have Palestine taxes , they say ABCXYZ123 and take the money.

This the reason Jesus came, to tell them not to manipulate laws for greedy purposes .


Ah, there is the racism and bigot attitude we came to expect.
They steal the Palestinians land and murder them... Not ah ledge, that's a fact



Can't steal what was theirs already.


We see what kind of people Palestinians and their ilk are based on their behavior in Europe. Disgusting

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 21st, 2025, 2:52 pm

sMASH wrote:https://youtu.be/KwRMht9ktIo?si=VOnLzYChtHLaKZKJ


https://youtu.be/KwRMht9ktIo?si=VOnLzYChtHLaKZKJ

Say any nonsense cause they just want to kill the people and steal the land

Even right wing sky news had to call out israli lies .
Just liars , theives, murderers and pedophiles




Pedophiles? That's pot calling kettle black

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 21st, 2025, 3:19 pm

matr1x wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://youtu.be/KwRMht9ktIo?si=VOnLzYChtHLaKZKJ


https://youtu.be/KwRMht9ktIo?si=VOnLzYChtHLaKZKJ

Say any nonsense cause they just want to kill the people and steal the land

Even right wing sky news had to call out israli lies .
Just liars , theives, murderers and pedophiles




Pedophiles? That's pot calling kettle black
The joke was arabs and kids.
The jews was the children


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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » March 21st, 2025, 3:29 pm

Tief from tief does make God laugh

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 21st, 2025, 5:09 pm

Iliat port now Ben gorion
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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sMASH wrote:
matr1x wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://youtu.be/KwRMht9ktIo?si=VOnLzYChtHLaKZKJ


https://youtu.be/KwRMht9ktIo?si=VOnLzYChtHLaKZKJ

Say any nonsense cause they just want to kill the people and steal the land

Even right wing sky news had to call out israli lies .
Just liars , theives, murderers and pedophiles




Pedophiles? That's pot calling kettle black
The joke was arabs and kids.
The jews was the children



The product and distilled version of a culture and religion, is what is exported. Which is why so many illegal immigrants from the arab world are criminals and rapists. The arab world...distilled

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » March 21st, 2025, 6:05 pm

sMASH wrote:Iliat port now Ben gorion
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Not one place spelled correctly in your post

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 21st, 2025, 7:19 pm

Possible army coup on Netanyahu cause he crash the ceasefire to avoid court...

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 21st, 2025, 9:09 pm

sMASH wrote:Possible army coup on Netanyahu cause he crash the ceasefire to avoid court...



Of course.


Sure.

I think fasting burn out what few braincells you had left

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 22nd, 2025, 5:39 am

Contrary to the excellent rule of getting to the point immediately, I must begin this article with a personal introduction. The author of these lines is considered to be an enemy of the Arabs, a proponent of their expulsion, etc. This is not true. My emotional relationship to the Arabs is the same as it is to all other peoples – polite indifference. My political relationship is characterized by two principles. First: the expulsion of the Arabs from Palestine is absolutely impossible in any form. There will always be two nations in Palestine – which is good enough for me, provided the Jews become the majority. Second: I am proud to have been a member of that group which formulated the Helsingfors Program. We formulated it, not only for Jews, but for all peoples, and its basis is the equality of all nations. I am prepared to swear, for us and our descendants, that we will never destroy this equality and we will never attempt to expel or oppress the Arabs. Our credo, as the reader can see, is completely peaceful. But it is absolutely another matter if it will be possible to achieve our peaceful aims through peaceful means. This depends, not on our relationship with the Arabs, but exclusively on the Arabs’ relationship to Zionism.

After this introduction I can now get to the point. That the Arabs of the Land of Israel should willingly come to an agreement with us is beyond all hopes and dreams at present, and in the foreseeable future. This inner conviction of mine I express so categorically not because of any wish to dismay the moderate faction in the Zionist camp but, on the contrary, because I wish to save them from such dismay. Apart from those who have been virtually “blind” since childhood, all the other moderate Zionists have long since understood that there is not even the slightest hope of ever obtaining the agreement of the Arabs of the Land of Israel to “Palestine” becoming a country with a Jewish majority.

Every reader has some idea of the early history of other countries which have been settled. I suggest that he recall all known instances. If he should attempt to seek but one instance of a country settled with the consent of those born there he will not succeed. The inhabitants (no matter whether they are civilized or savages) have always put up a stubborn fight. Furthermore, how the settler acted had no effect whatsoever. The Spaniards who conquered Mexico and Peru, or our own ancestors in the days of Joshua ben Nun behaved, one might say, like plunderers. But those “great explorers,” the English, Scots and Dutch who were the first real pioneers of North America were people possessed of a very high ethical standard; people who not only wished to leave the redskins at peace but could also pity a fly; people who in all sincerity and innocence believed that in those virgin forests and vast plains ample space was available for both the white and red man. But the native resisted both barbarian and civilized settler with the same degree of cruelty.

Another point which had no effect at all was whether or not there existed a suspicion that the settler wished to remove the inhabitant from his land. The vast areas of the U.S. never contained more than one or two million Indians. The inhabitants fought the white settlers not out of fear that they might be expropriated, but simply because there has never been an indigenous inhabitant anywhere or at any time who has ever accepted the settlement of others in his country. Any native people – its all the same whether they are civilized or savage – views their country as their national home, of which they will always be the complete masters. They will not voluntarily allow, not only a new master, but even a new partner. And so it is for the Arabs. Compromisers in our midst attempt to convince us that the Arabs are some kind of fools who can be tricked by a softened formulation of our goals, or a tribe of money grubbers who will abandon their birth right to Palestine for cultural and economic gains. I flatly reject this assessment of the Palestinian Arabs. Culturally they are 500 years behind us, spiritually they do not have our endurance or our strength of will, but this exhausts all of the internal differences. We can talk as much as we want about our good intentions; but they understand as well as we what is not good for them. They look upon Palestine with the same instinctive love and true fervor that any Aztec looked upon his Mexico or any Sioux looked upon his prairie. To think that the Arabs will voluntarily consent to the realization of Zionism in return for the cultural and economic benefits we can bestow on them is infantile. This childish fantasy of our “Arabo-philes” comes from some kind of contempt for the Arab people, of some kind of unfounded view of this race as a rabble ready to be bribed in order to sell out their homeland for a railroad network.

This view is absolutely groundless. Individual Arabs may perhaps be bought off but this hardly means that all the Arabs in Eretz Israel are willing to sell a patriotism that not even Papuans will trade. Every indigenous people will resist alien settlers as long as they see any hope of ridding themselves of the danger of foreign settlement.

That is what the Arabs in Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of “Palestine” into the “Land of Israel”.

Some of us imagined that a misunderstanding had occurred, that because the Arabs did not understand our intentions, they opposed us, but, if we were to make clear to them how modest and limited our aspirations are, they would then stretch out their arms in peace. This too is a fallacy that has been proved so time and again. I need recall only one incident. Three years ago, during a visit here, Sokolow delivered a great speech about this very “misunderstanding,” employing trenchant language to prove how grossly mistaken the Arabs were in supposing that we intended to take away their property or expel them from the country, or to suppress them. This was definitely not so. Nor did we even want a Jewish state. All we wanted was a regime representative of the League of Nations. A reply to this speech was published in the Arab paper Al Carmel in an article whose content I give here from memory, but I am sure it is a faithful account.

Our Zionist grandees are unnecessarily perturbed, its author wrote. There is no misunderstanding. What Sokolow claims on behalf of Zionism is true. But the Arabs already know this. Obviously, Zionists today cannot dream of expelling or suppressing the Arabs, or even of setting up a Jewish state. Clearly, in this period they are interested in only one thing – that the Arabs not interfere with Jewish immigration. Further, the Zionists have pledged to control immigration in accordance with the country's absorptive economic capacity. But the Arabs have no illusions, since no other conditions permit the possibility of immigration.

The editor of the paper is even willing to believe that the absorptive capacity of Eretz Israel is very great, and that it is possible to settle many Jews without affecting one Arab. “Just that is what the Zionists want, and what the Arabs do not want. In this way the Jews will, little by little, become a majority and, ipso facto, a Jewish state will be formed and the fate of the Arab minority will depend on the goodwill of the Jews. But was it not the Jews themselves who told us how ‘ pleasant’ being a minority was? No misunderstanding exists. Zionists desire one thing – freedom of immigration – and it is Jewish immigration that we do not want.”

The logic employed by this editor is so simple and clear that it should be learned by heart and be an essential part of our notion of the Arab question. It is of no importance whether we quote Herzl or Herbert Samuel to justify our activities. Colonization itself has its own explanation, integral and inescapable, and understood by every Arab and every Jew with his wits about him. Colonization can have only one goal. For the Palestinian Arabs this goal is inadmissible. This is in the nature of things. To change that nature is impossible.

A plan that seems to attract many Zionists goes like this: If it is impossible to get an endorsement of Zionism by Palestine's Arabs, then it must be obtained from the Arabs of Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and perhaps of Egypt. Even if this were possible, it would not change the basic situation. It would not change the attitude of the Arabs in the Land of Israel towards us. Seventy years ago, the unification of Italy was achieved, with the retention by Austria of Trent and Trieste. However, the inhabitants of those towns not only refused to accept the situation, but they struggled against Austria with redoubled vigor. If it were possible (and I doubt this) to discuss Palestine with the Arabs of Baghdad and Mecca as if it were some kind of small, immaterial borderland, then Palestine would still remain for the Palestinians not a borderland, but their birthplace, the center and basis of their own national existence. Therefore it would be necessary to carry on colonization against the will of the Palestinian Arabs, which is the same condition that exists now.

But an agreement with Arabs outside the Land of Israel is also a delusion. For nationalists in Baghdad, Mecca and Damascus to agree to such an expensive contribution (agreeing to forego preservation of the Arab character of a country located in the center of their future “federation”) we would have to offer them something just as valuable. We can offer only two things: either money or political assistance or both. But we can offer neither. Concerning money, it is ludicrous to think we could finance the development of Iraq or Saudi Arabia, when we do not have enough for the Land of Israel. Ten times more illusionary is political assistance for Arab political aspirations. Arab nationalism sets itself the same aims as those set by Italian nationalism before 1870 and Polish nationalism before 1918: unity and independence. These aspirations mean the eradication of every trace of British influence in Egypt and Iraq, the expulsion of the Italians from Libya, the removal of French domination from Syria, Tunis, Algiers and Morocco. For us to support such a movement would be suicide and treachery. If we disregard the fact that the Balfour Declaration was signed by Britain, we cannot forget that France and Italy also signed it. We cannot intrigue about removing Britain from the Suez Canal and the Persian Gulf and the elimination of French and Italian colonial rule over Arab territory. Such a double game cannot be considered on any account.

Thus we conclude that we cannot promise anything to the Arabs of the Land of Israel or the Arab countries. Their voluntary agreement is out of the question. Hence those who hold that an agreement with the natives is an essential condition for Zionism can now say “no” and depart from Zionism. Zionist colonization, even the most restricted, must either be terminated or carried out in defiance of the will of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, continue and develop only under the protection of a force independent of the local population – an iron wall which the native population cannot break through. This is, in toto, our policy towards the Arabs. To formulate it any other way would only be hypocrisy.

Not only must this be so, it is so whether we admit it or not. What does the Balfour Declaration and the Mandate mean for us? It is the fact that a disinterested power committed itself to create such security conditions that the local population would be deterred from interfering with our efforts.

All of us, without exception, are constantly demanding that this power strictly fulfill its obligations. In this sense, there are no meaningful differences between our “militarists” and our “vegetarians.” One prefers an iron wall of Jewish bayonets, the other proposes an iron wall of British bayonets, the third proposes an agreement with Baghdad, and appears to be satisfied with Baghdad’s bayonets – a strange and somewhat risky taste’ but we all applaud, day and night, the iron wall. We would destroy our cause if we proclaimed the necessity of an agreement, and fill the minds of the Mandatory with the belief that we do not need an iron wall, but rather endless talks. Such a proclamation can only harm us. Therefore it is our sacred duty to expose such talk and prove that it is a snare and a delusion.

Two brief remarks: In the first place, if anyone objects that this point of view is immoral, I answer: It is not true; either Zionism is moral and just or it is immoral and unjust. But that is a question that we should have settled before we became Zionists. Actually we have settled that question, and in the affirmative.

We hold that Zionism is moral and just. And since it is moral and just, justice must be done, no matter whether Joseph or Simon or Ivan or Achmet agree with it or not.

There is no other morality.

All this does not mean that any kind of agreement is impossible, only a voluntary agreement is impossible. As long as there is a spark of hope that they can get rid of us, they will not sell these hopes, not for any kind of sweet words or tasty morsels, because they are not a rabble but a nation, perhaps somewhat tattered, but still living. A living people makes such enormous concessions on such fateful questions only when there is no hope left. Only when not a single breach is visible in the iron wall, only then do extreme groups lose their sway, and influence transfers to moderate groups. Only then would these moderate groups come to us with proposals for mutual concessions. And only then will moderates offer suggestions for compromise on practical questions like a guarantee against expulsion, or equality and national autonomy.

I am optimistic that they will indeed be granted satisfactory assurances and that both peoples, like good neighbors, can then live in peace. But the only path to such an agreement is the iron wall, that is to say the strengthening in Palestine of a government without any kind of Arab influence, that is to say one against which the Arabs will fight. In other words, for us the only path to an agreement in the future is an absolute refusal of any attempts at an agreement now.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 22nd, 2025, 5:43 am

Yup... On all three
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