***2023 local elections thread****

[zoom rader]

If Kamla steps down or doesn't make it to 2025, who is the most likely person to take over the party and defeat the PNM?

Jearlean John and Roodal Moonilal are the only persons I am seeing so far to take over the party. Jearlean has the best chance to defeat the PNM but would she be accepted by the base since she is non-indo? More than likely yes since the base accepted Jack Warner at one point in time. Now... would Jearlean be accepted by the national executive of the UNC? well...

Indos on both sides of UNC and Red mis government will quicker accept a non African to lead them.

The same can't be said on the red mis government supporters

Pretty much

That's does not means idiots like you that show racist tendencies. I knew you would fall for this. Ur bias is blatant as u show favour for the red mis government.

Africans in the red mis government will never accept an indo as PM

[eliteauto]

If Kamla steps down or doesn't make it to 2025, who is the most likely person to take over the party and defeat the PNM?

Jearlean John and Roodal Moonilal are the only persons I am seeing so far to take over the party. Jearlean has the best chance to defeat the PNM but would she be accepted by the base since she is non-indo? More than likely yes since the base accepted Jack Warner at one point in time. Now... would Jearlean be accepted by the national executive of the UNC? well...

Indos on both sides of UNC and Red mis government will quicker accept a non African to lead them.

The same can't be said on the red mis government supporters

Pretty much

That's does not means idiots like you that show racist tendencies. I knew you would fall for this. Ur bias is blatant as u show favour for the red mis government.

Africans in the red mis government will never accept an indo as PM

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[j.o.e]

Where Mickela ? I find she could build something from the ground up , I like her.

[VexXx Dogg]

Where Mickela ? I find she could build something from the ground up , I like her.

She doh have enough wind in her sails to pick up that kinda movement. I feel she shoulda reactivate her party card and pull out a coup to kick KPB out. Ironically, I might add, since KPB did a similar coup for bas.

[maj. tom]

Ms. Panday needs Parliamentary experience before people will back her. Even if it's opposition. She needs to debate and get on record for issues. She should have been getting that since 2020 either by join the UNC and going up for a seat or trying on her own for LGE for at least one seat for local council experience.

[The_Honourable]

Where Mickela ? I find she could build something from the ground up , I like her.

Like yuh forget the Patriotic Front.

[AlphaMan]

If Kamla steps down or doesn't make it to 2025, who is the most likely person to take over the party and defeat the PNM?

So once someone "take over the party", they guaranteed to defeat the pnm?

I'm asking who is that "someone " who can take over the party and defeat the PNM. Why would the UNC appoint a new leader and lose again at the polls..makes no sense..

[MaxPower]

KPB isnt stepping down anytime soon, at least not before next GE in 2025.

IF….IF the UNC gets a new leader before that, it’s a bit too late to turn the party around.

[K74T]

Pee'nm 2k25

[shogun]

If Kamla steps down or doesn't make it to 2025, who is the most likely person to take over the party and defeat the PNM?

So once someone "take over the party", they guaranteed to defeat the pnm?

I'm asking who is that "someone " who can take over the party and defeat the PNM. Why would the UNC appoint a new leader and lose again at the polls..makes no sense..

Because believe it or not new leadership could reset the tone and perception of a political organization.

The problem is the though that as it is the party would probably need to select that person from a list of candidates with already too much baggage to the voting public, because one of our main problems is that our political discourse reach such bottom-feeding, vindictive toxic circus-like levels that the people that should be entering politics/running for office not even going to bother getting involved.

[AlphaMan]

What motivates Kamla and Rowley to keep going at it.
They have all the money they could possibly need and gonna die and leave it all behind..Why not call it a a day and enjoy the remainder of there lives..

[Dizzy28]

To answer that is to understand the condition of man.

What motivates Kamla and Rowley to keep going at it.
They have all the money they could possibly need and gonna die and leave it all behind..Why not call it a a day and enjoy the remainder of there lives..

[AlphaMan]

To answer that is to understand the condition of man.

What motivates Kamla and Rowley to keep going at it.
They have all the money they could possibly need and gonna die and leave it all behind..Why not call it a a day and enjoy the remainder of there lives..

Which is to be greedy to the end?

[j.o.e]

I think it’s the prestige and the love of their fanatics keep them going.

[The_Honourable]

I think Rowley's motivation is that he wants to prove a few points to himself, the pnm party members and the country as he is usually compared to and seen as inferior to Manning. If Rowley reaches 2025, he would have served two full terms which Manning wasn't able to do. He never called a snap election (so far) which Manning did twice and lost. Rowley is still healthy so if he reaches 2030, he would have served three full terms and be the longest serving prime minister since Eric Williams.

While he would not admit it publicly, he would prove that he is "better than" Manning, better Tobagonian politician than Robinson, his haters will have to accept it, and it will be recorded in the history books when he is gone.

[death365]

This plus why would u want to go back as an "ordinary citizen"

I think it’s the prestige and the love of their fanatics keep them going.

[maj. tom]

The human brain has not evolved to operate with and handle power at the levels that modern society gives to politicians and social media persona. That is how some politicians become truly unhinged and some want to be dictators. The awful and evil behaviours and actions of such corrupt individuals inspire a good portion of any population who now see a leader mirroring their own behaviours and morals, (bigotry, racism, scorn of poverty) etc. and end up become almost like a cult leader to those people. Even though just hypothetically placing someone else's name to who did these bad deeds would make people realize the wrongs, which they would then promptly ignore once the switch back was made.

The brains of powerful individuals react differently to social cues in ways that resemble psychopaths or patients with frontal brain damage. Psychopaths and some patients with brain damage lack empathy and the ability to take others' perspectives. Research has shown that power can deform the brain to act in the same ways. For example, people with high status have been shown to be less accurate in judging the emotions of people with low status.


Our human brains have mirror neural networks, meaning that similar brain areas are activated when observing the actions of others. If you have ever experienced secondhand driving, you get the point! For example, if you are a piano player, and you observe another person playing the piano, the motor areas in your brain light up too!

Astonishingly, this “mirroring” vanishes in people under the influence of power. Just priming the participant with power (writing about an incident in which you had power) decreased the mirroring of others’ actions. This creates an asymmetry in relationships between the powerful and powerless. In other words, the powerless are more attentive to the uniqueness of the powerful, and the powerful perceive the powerless in accordance with general stereotypes. Some researchers called this the default effect of power resulting in “reduced interpersonal sensitivity." A myriad of research has shown that powerful people are more likely to rely on stereotypes.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/neuroscience-in-everyday-life/202006/the-brain-under-the-influence-power

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But power’s effects are not all positive. Even small, experimentally induced power levels increase hypocrisy, moral exceptionalism, egocentricity and lack of empathy for others. Take the example of gambling. It is folly of may gamblers to believe that they can somehow control the roll of the dice. Whether mediated by superstitious pre-bet rituals, or by a belief in luck or destiny, fortunes have been lost under the illusion that a person has personal control over events, which are in reality randomly determined – like the spin of the roulette wheel. Nathanael Fast and Deborah Gruenfeld of Stanford University found that even tiny elevations of experienced power increase susceptibility to this illusion (Fast et al., 2009). It seems a strong possibility that more dramatic illusions of control affected financiers and bankers betting on a massively complex global financial system whose derivative and other bets, which were traded, had a combined value greater than the total world GDP.

Power also increase egocentricity. Adam Galinsky and colleagues of Northwestern University primed power or powerlessness in participants and asked them to draw a capital E on their forehead with a washable marker (Galinsky et al., 2006). Those who had thought about a time they had power over someone tended to draw an E on their forehead which was correct from their point of view, but appeared mirror reversed from the point of view of someone standing opposite them.

One consequence of lack of empathy and egocentricity is that it inclines us to see people as a means to our ends – more as instruments of our own goals. Deborah Gruenfeld and colleagues at Stanford University have found evidence for precisely this: if we arouse power feelings in otherwise ordinary people, they begin to see others as objects. When students were primed into a power mode by reliving a situation from their past where they had power over someone, they were also inclined to see others in terms of how useful they were to them. They were, for instance, more likely to report that they contacted people when they needed something from them and they were less likely to report that they really liked a colleague independently of how useful that person was to them (Gruenfeld et al., 2008).

https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/how-power-affects-brain