Gas prices in Trinidad & Tobago

[Habit7]

Spinning nonsense is saying that govt said they are not selling Petrotrin as you erroneously said earlier.

That refinery went buss since 1985 from Texaco. It was the GoRTT that bought it and bred new life into it. After 6yrs and more of billion dollar losses it had to go.

Nobody is denying that PNM closed the refinery. They did it proudly and went to the polls and receive a mandate to continue for another 5yrs. All so that you can continue to be sour on Trintuner for more than a decade.

[racedriverpro]

So it appears that they did something when in fact they did nothing. Can be coined as pseudo performance a PNM trademark and current gold standard.

[zoom rader]

Spinning nonsense is saying that govt said they are not selling Petrotrin as you erroneously said earlier.

That refinery went buss since 1985 from Texaco. It was the GoRTT that bought it and bred new life into it. After 6yrs and more of billion dollar losses it had to go.

Nobody is denying that PNM closed the refinery. They did it proudly and went to the polls and receive a mandate to continue for another 5yrs. All so that you can continue to be sour on Trintuner for more than a decade.

Jack arse the refinery is closed and 3500 workers plus contractors was sent home. Some 4000 workers lost their income

Petrotrin refinery is closed.

They stole the election on the backs of the owtu on the false hope that they will aquire the refinery. We all saw how that played out and placed in the hands of the 1%

Not my fault we live in a jack arse country filled will one half who get beaten like slaves to vote for a tribal government that is a failure

Easy for these folk to get fooled every election.

Mandate my arse to govern

[Gladiator]

Spinning nonsense is saying that govt said they are not selling Petrotrin as you erroneously said earlier.

That refinery went buss since 1985 from Texaco. It was the GoRTT that bought it and bred new life into it. After 6yrs and more of billion dollar losses it had to go.

Nobody is denying that PNM closed the refinery. They did it proudly and went to the polls and receive a mandate to continue for another 5yrs. All so that you can continue to be sour on Trintuner for more than a decade.

Jack arse the refinery is closed and 3500 workers plus contractors was sent home. Some 4000 workers lost their income

Petrotrin refinery is closed.

They stole the election on the backs of the owtu on the false hope that they will aquire the refinery. We all saw how that played out and placed in the hands of the 1%

Not my fault we live in a jack arse country filled will one half who get beaten like slaves to vote for a tribal government that is a failure

Easy for these folk to get fooled every election.

Mandate my arse to govern

Give up Zoomie.... Habit can't ever see sense from nonsense. When it all dries up soon and is every man for themselves lets see them play swordfight with balisier in dey hand.

[Habit7]

Nah let ZR beat up, maybe we can develop it as a new source of energy.

Men still complaining that the imported fuel damaging their engine? Or was that a political psychosomatic thing?

Nevertheless, get ready to either pay more for diesel or be given the choice of Low Sulphur Diesel and Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel.
ULSD should be more expensive than premium gas. Niquan's GTL plant is about to start up. https://www.niquanenergy.com/first-comm ... hemisphere

Maybe Khan was testing the waters for ending LSD and only having ULSD. Make ppl feel like they won back cheaper gas when the reality is that they are going to lose cheap diesel.

Don't tell them I told you.

[gastly369]

"Fluctuation in pump prices".....

Lemme decipher it dey

De price going up on all fuel this year

And with fuel hike is ah trickle effect as we all know... Enjoy.

[paid_influencer]

lemme just say something eh. true talk. real talk. Isa man seeing a pattern. It have sense in all the nonsense we does be reading on the papers that the PNM doing. Need a step back, view from afar, to make out the sense. is big play going on hear me out.

what this government is doing is not by chance. all these media reports started by govt man and ended by govt man. he controlling the play. is words released to make a headline, take over the media, draw the discussion in a certain direction, steer it like a subaru where they want to end up.

them smart. like the subaru, it need to go sideways some time to reach. knock over the cones, but with reason. gas, gas, gaslight IYMC. Tell them we is a man discussing reforming petrotrin. get them riled up, draw the fire. unload the bullet in the ground. bring the rage, fire light up. then tell them nah not so. Countersteer. fire done. burn out. tank empty. protest done. what allyuh complaining for? allyuh ent hear what he say? Man sure sure in his belief. The truth is the lie and the lie is the truth.

then let govt man tell them reforming is the plans, some will get fresh bread. Swear by it. Epinot gone on TV and say it. The truth is the lie and the lie is the truth. Subaru drift, sideways delight, everybody dismissed plant close.

subie drifting again, hitting cooking gas, fuel price and now super. I doh know, subaru no use super so no care. Ent they say super staying? it staying. the goal is to disorient. confuse. misinformation. cognitive dissonance. gas up and spin sideways

[Numb3r4]

So you're saying that the government is all smoke and mirrors?

[De Dragon]

So you're saying that the government is all smoke and mirrors?

No, they're more like incompetent and kants

[mero]

Nah let ZR beat up, maybe we can develop it as a new source of energy.

lol

[88sins]

So you're saying that the government is all smoke and mirrors?

You actually believed this country had a government?

[MG Man]

Nah let ZR beat up, maybe we can develop it as a new source of energy.

Men still complaining that the imported fuel damaging their engine? Or was that a political psychosomatic thing?

Nevertheless, get ready to either pay more for diesel or be given the choice of Low Sulphur Diesel and Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel.
ULSD should be more expensive than premium gas. Niquan's GTL plant is about to start up. https://www.niquanenergy.com/first-comm ... hemisphere

Maybe Khan was testing the waters for ending LSD and only having ULSD. Make ppl feel like they won back cheaper gas when the reality is that they are going to lose cheap diesel.

Don't tell them I told you.

trinis too spoil on cheap fuel
Men now realizing the crappy fuel economy on those diesel pickups
I long for the day when I can get ULSD at the pump

[death365]

i thought that was mainly for shipping and slow steaming

Nah let ZR beat up, maybe we can develop it as a new source of energy.

Men still complaining that the imported fuel damaging their engine? Or was that a political psychosomatic thing?

Nevertheless, get ready to either pay more for diesel or be given the choice of Low Sulphur Diesel and Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel.
ULSD should be more expensive than premium gas. Niquan's GTL plant is about to start up. https://www.niquanenergy.com/first-comm ... hemisphere

Maybe Khan was testing the waters for ending LSD and only having ULSD. Make ppl feel like they won back cheaper gas when the reality is that they are going to lose cheap diesel.

Don't tell them I told you.

trinis too spoil on cheap fuel
Men now realizing the crappy fuel economy on those diesel pickups
I long for the day when I can get ULSD at the pump

[MG Man]

ULSD???
Nope that's consumer grade clean fuel
pretty much all consumer and commercial diesel vehicles are built for ULSD
That's why modern synthetic engine oils are low SAPS / low TBN...they don't need protection from the corrosive effects of high sulfur diesel

i thought that was mainly for shipping and slow steaming

Nah let ZR beat up, maybe we can develop it as a new source of energy.

Men still complaining that the imported fuel damaging their engine? Or was that a political psychosomatic thing?

Nevertheless, get ready to either pay more for diesel or be given the choice of Low Sulphur Diesel and Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel.
ULSD should be more expensive than premium gas. Niquan's GTL plant is about to start up. https://www.niquanenergy.com/first-comm ... hemisphere

Maybe Khan was testing the waters for ending LSD and only having ULSD. Make ppl feel like they won back cheaper gas when the reality is that they are going to lose cheap diesel.

Don't tell them I told you.

trinis too spoil on cheap fuel
Men now realizing the crappy fuel economy on those diesel pickups
I long for the day when I can get ULSD at the pump

[ru$$ell]

Men now realizing the crappy fuel economy on those diesel pickups

AYE

[Numb3r4]

Where are we sourcing or fuels from right now?

In the motoring public what percentage of cars are Super and what are Diesel and Premium?

Why remove Super though thought it was he cheaper more in demand of the 2 Super or Premium?

[adnj]

All of Europe and most of Asia has already moved to 95RON as the standard fuel at the pumps and for new engine designs. The US will likely follow suit.

Old news...

April 17, 2018 01:00 AM

The octane game: Auto industry lobbies for 95 as new regular

The auto industry is finally getting traction on its quest to make 95 RON octane gasoline -- basically the same grade as Europe’s regular and the lowest grade of premium here -- the new regular in the United States.

In testimony Friday before the House Energy and Commerce Committee's environment subcommittee, Dan Nicholson, General Motors' vice president of global propulsion systems, said making 95 octane the new regular aligns the U.S. with Europe and is one of the most affordable ways to boost fuel economy and lower greenhouse gas emissions.

GM, Ford Motor Co. and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, working with the United States Council for Automotive Research, are seeking just one grade of fuel: 95. That would eliminate today's grades, generally 87 octane for regular, 88-90 for midgrade and 91-94 for premium. Even though premium gasoline costs about 50 cents more per gallon than regular, Nicholson says moving to 95 octane would cost consumers far less.

GM spokesman Tom Read said late Tuesday that current grades of octane would be phased out over time and there still will be gasoline with octane ratings higher than 95 RON -- sort of a super premium. 

Speaking during a panel discussion at SAE International WCX World Congress Experience in Detroit the day before testifying before the house subcommittee, Nicholson said a 3 percent fuel economy improvement could be attained for less than a 3 percent increase in the cost of fuel.

"This will have customer value if it is done correctly. Don't think of the premium fuel that is available today," Nicholson said. "If it is done in the right framework, it could have a lot of value for customers at a low rate if we pick the right octane level. If you go too high, it'll get expensive. But if you pick the right one, it'll actually work for customers. They can get around 3 percent fuel economy improvement for less than 3 percent" cost.

A 3 percent fuel economy improvement might not sound like much, but engineers struggle for every tenth of a percent gain as they design, engineer, test and calibrate vehicles.

"Fuels and engines have always been a system. That's how you have to think about it. I think America deserves as good a gasoline as Europe," Nicholson said.

Technologies such as downsized turbocharged, direct-injected engines -- Ford's EcoBoost line, for example -- stop-start systems, lightweight vehicle bodies and transmissions with eight, nine and even 10 speeds have boosted fuel economy.

But moving the fuel economy needle now is very expensive. For example, Nissan Motor Co.'s new VC-Turbo (variable compression turbocharged) four-cylinder costs at least $3,000 more to produce than a standard 16-valve double-overhead-camshaft four-cylinder. The new engine, available in the 2019 Infiniti QX50, delivers about 20 percent better fuel economy than the engine it replaced.

Some of the cost savings from switching to 95 octane gasoline presumably would come from refiners gaining efficiencies from producing high volumes of one fuel for the U.S. Nicholson told me that it doesn't matter how the petroleum industry raises octane. Octane can be increased in several ways, such as by using more ethanol or by reducing heptane.

David Filipe, vice president of Ford's powertrain engineering, appearing on the panel with Nicholson, said 95 octane fuel must be affordable. "That's been something that has been important to us. How do we do this without having a big impact on the customer?," Filipe said. "We don't want to put the burden onto the customer." Filipe said the cost must not add more than 5 cents per gallon.

Higher octane enables engineers to raise an engine's compression ratio. That, in turn, increases horsepower and torque and helps the engine run more efficiently. Raising an engine's compression may be the most cost-effective -- and untapped -- way to improve fuel economy and lower carbon dioxide emissions. Increasing compression usually requires a modification to the pistons or the cylinder head's combustion chambers.

"We have an opportunity to play a large role in offering consumers the most affordable option for fuel economy improvement and greenhouse gas reduction," Nicholson testified. "We believe a higher efficiency gasoline solution with a higher Research Octane Number (RON) is very important to achieving this. USCAR research shows that 95 RON makes sense from the viewpoints of both refiners and fuel retailers."

https://www.autonews.com/article/201804 ... ew-regular

[paid_influencer]

Where are we sourcing or fuels from right now?

In the motoring public what percentage of cars are Super and what are Diesel and Premium?

Why remove Super though thought it was he cheaper more in demand of the 2 Super or Premium?

super cars can use premium, but premium cars can't use super.

correct me if I'm wrong.

[bluefete]

So Smiley get in trouble for telling the truth or what?

[paid_influencer]

So Smiley get in trouble for telling the truth or what?

smiley following the rules. All the misinformation is done to blunt the impact of the real shots that coming. Since the Rowley administration came into office, there is a pattern where the government says something directly or via media reports, the population ventilates exhaustively on decisions that never actually come to pass. The cumulative result of this is the population never truly knows what to expect and discredits the real shots coming down the pipeline.

[zoom rader]

So Smiley get in trouble for telling the truth or what?

smiley following the rules. All the misinformation is done to blunt the impact of the real shots that coming. Since the Rowley administration came into office, there is a pattern where the government says something directly or via media reports, the population ventilates exhaustively on decisions that never actually come to pass. The cumulative result of this is the population never truly knows what to expect and discredits the real shots coming down the pipeline.

Yup

That's like Petrotrin will not be sold and its still running but 3500 workers sent home

800 million in profits but raid the HSF for 1.5 billion

[Numb3r4]

What are these proverbial shots that are we to look out for in this particular issue?

[bluefete]

Big fat lies.

https://www.facebook.com/19903967245579 ... 2085859067

[pugboy]

same strategy they using over and over......

So Smiley get in trouble for telling the truth or what?

smiley following the rules. All the misinformation is done to blunt the impact of the real shots that coming. Since the Rowley administration came into office, there is a pattern where the government says something directly or via media reports, the population ventilates exhaustively on decisions that never actually come to pass. The cumulative result of this is the population never truly knows what to expect and discredits the real shots coming down the pipeline.

Yup

That's like Petrotrin will not be sold and its still running but 3500 workers sent home

800 million in profits but raid the HSF for 1.5 billion

[MG Man]

Men now realizing the crappy fuel economy on those diesel pickups

AYE

[zoom rader]

same strategy they using over and over......

So Smiley get in trouble for telling the truth or what?

smiley following the rules. All the misinformation is done to blunt the impact of the real shots that coming. Since the Rowley administration came into office, there is a pattern where the government says something directly or via media reports, the population ventilates exhaustively on decisions that never actually come to pass. The cumulative result of this is the population never truly knows what to expect and discredits the real shots coming down the pipeline.

Yup

That's like Petrotrin will not be sold and its still running but 3500 workers sent home

800 million in profits but raid the HSF for 1.5 billion

The red government plays with words that Habit7 uses time and time again.

I am no fan of the red government running any business not even a parlour. To Come up with Petrotrin is still running and 3500 workers plus 500 contractors are sent home shows stupid the people are thar voted for them .

We really live in stupid County where 3200000 ppl are still living in mental slavery .

It the same they did with Rowley princess and a non national that jumped the queue to come for Xmas. They played with words , clowns like Habit7 saying that 8000 ppl returned really shows how dumb 3200000 people are.

[DMan7]

Big fat lies.

https://www.facebook.com/19903967245579 ... 2085859067

Is this another "We are not closing Petrotrin" type statements?

[zoom rader]

Big fat lies.

https://www.facebook.com/19903967245579 ... 2085859067

Is this another "We are not closing Petrotrin" type statements?

Yes and it's the trend

You have to read between the lines.

It's sad that 320000 don't understand what's going on

[pugboy]

sheep are not bright enough to recognize patterns

[matr1x]

It always disturbing when people say we get spoilt on cheap gas. Do you like being a slave to the whip?