ISIS in T&T?

[HSA]

everyone believes their religion is "the one"....if everyone sticks to the TRUE teachings of their religion then the world will be a better place. when i say true teachings i mean going back to the source....holy bible...holy quran and the vedas...

what is happening for eg....a muslim will do something that is "against" their religion and go to different imams to hear what THEY want to hear..if one says it is haraam..they will go by another and another until they hear it is acceptable....same for the hindus and christians.....

i guess man has no control...id...ego..superego fail.....following their carnal animalistic desires with no morality or justification of their actions....thats why i wouldnt feel any remorse if murders, rapists etc are tortured to death..humanity is on a decline....

on a brighter note...a spacecraft was sighted orbiting the sun and the earth..its being kept a hush hush....

[AdamB]

You have any data to back that up ZR. You really have to ask this, check the history books.
Remember,

Wars started by a Christian or inhumane acts done by a Christian =/= Wars started on inhumane acts done in the name of Christianity.
How convenient! Yet muslims are accused of side-stepping issues.
A lot of inhumane acts done during the slave trade (like rape and murder) were done because of the individual doing it. Well isn't it the same, Islam does not preach rape and murder...as outlined in the bible and practised by Catholic brothers.Everything ISIS does is in the name of Islam. And just because a minority are violent does not mean that their interpretation is wrong. For example, did you know that most people in the world are NOT Muslim... and yet Muslims believe that their religion is the right one... hmmmmm...

Not everyone will enter Paradise, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world:

Neutral non-Muslim Sources confirming Islam to be the fastest growing religion.

I will just mention a few of them.

“Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam. Although the religion began in Arabia, by 2002 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world. In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity” (Guinness World Records 2003, pg 102) (Emphasis added)

According to Reader’s digest Almanic year book Islam grew by 235% in 50 years between 1934-1984

According to CNN.

“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.

Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities.

Islam has drawn converts from all walks of life, most notably African-Americans.

[Slartibartfast]

everyone believes their religion is "the one"....if everyone sticks to the TRUE teachings of their religion then the world will be a better place. when i say true teachings i mean going back to the source....holy bible...holy quran and the vedas...

what is happening for eg....a muslim will do something that is "against" their religion and go to different imams to hear what THEY want to hear..if one says it is haraam..they will go by another and another until they hear it is acceptable....same for the hindus and christians.....

i guess man has no control...id...ego..superego fail.....following their carnal animalistic desires with no morality or justification of their actions....thats why i wouldnt feel any remorse if murders, rapists etc are tortured to death..humanity is on a decline....

on a brighter note...a spacecraft was sighted orbiting the sun and the earth..its being kept a hush hush....

That's my point. All of those Imams could use the same book as the source for their knowledge and come up with something different because of how vague religious texts are written. I can't speak for the Quran myself but I know the Bible is a prime example of this. For example, Habit7 is a Christian that doesn't want to even be associated with Catholics.

The thing is that man has all of the control but through religion he hands over the control to a non-existent being so that he can live free from the burdens of responsibility and critical thinking.

[zoom rader]

You have any data to back that up ZR. Remember,

Wars started by a Christian or inhumane acts done by a Christian =/= Wars started on inhumane acts done in the name of Christianity.

A lot of inhumane acts done during the slave trade (like rape and murder) were done because of the individual doing it. Everything ISIS does is in the name of Islam. And just because a minority are violent does not mean that their interpretation is wrong. For example, did you know that most people in the world are NOT Muslim... and yet Muslims believe that their religion is the right one... hmmmmm...

You want data, go ask the millions of native south Americans that was murdered and enslaved all in the name of Christianity after the Christian Spanish came into the new world . They were given a choice to convert or be killed.

[HSA]

everyone believes their religion is "the one"....if everyone sticks to the TRUE teachings of their religion then the world will be a better place. when i say true teachings i mean going back to the source....holy bible...holy quran and the vedas...

what is happening for eg....a muslim will do something that is "against" their religion and go to different imams to hear what THEY want to hear..if one says it is haraam..they will go by another and another until they hear it is acceptable....same for the hindus and christians.....

i guess man has no control...id...ego..superego fail.....following their carnal animalistic desires with no morality or justification of their actions....thats why i wouldnt feel any remorse if murders, rapists etc are tortured to death..humanity is on a decline....

on a brighter note...a spacecraft was sighted orbiting the sun and the earth..its being kept a hush hush....

That's my point. All of those Imams could use the same book as the source for their knowledge and come up with something different because of how vague religious texts are written. I can't speak for the Quran myself but I know the Bible is a prime example of this. For example, Habit7 is a Christian that doesn't want to even be associated with Catholics.

The thing is that man has all of the control but through religion he hands over the control to a non-existent being so that he can live free from the burdens of responsibility and critical thinking.

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in the end we are all given the power of choice......whether what our religion is.....fact of the matter is that we choose to do the wrong things because :
1)it makes us feel good
2)it makes our life easier

humansarelazyfackers

[Habit7]

everyone believes their religion is "the one"....if everyone sticks to the TRUE teachings of their religion then the world will be a better place. when i say true teachings i mean going back to the source....holy bible...holy quran and the vedas...

I don't think you understand. The true teachings of the Quran is radical Islam. Beat your wife (4:34) kill apostates (4:89) don't befriend Christians and Jews (5:51) Subject non-Muslims (9:29)

You believe your opinion is "the one", I believe my opinion is "the one" the problem is when we force our opinion down the barrel of a gun. Currently there is one opinion doing that...

[PariaMan]

Never looked at it that way.

Christianity introduced the new commandment which is to love your neighbour. Christians have distorted this teaching at different periods in History and done very wrong.

However the Quran's basic teaching seems to be radical.

[RASC]

Adamb is a fool. Isis is a political organization which uses our religion to brainwash the simpletons to do their bidding. It is the same with Hamas, Boko haram, al shabaab,Hezbollah,Taliban etc. All of these ppl are fighting jihad for territory and political power. I want adamb especially to show me just one example of anyone from these groups who actually striving to share the beauty of Islam through words, deeds, charity, community work......instead of blowing up people or cutting off heads.

!!!

[HSA]

everyone believes their religion is "the one"....if everyone sticks to the TRUE teachings of their religion then the world will be a better place. when i say true teachings i mean going back to the source....holy bible...holy quran and the vedas...

I don't think you understand. The true teachings of the Quran is radical Islam. Beat your wife (4:34) kill apostates (4:89) don't befriend Christians and Jews (5:51) Subject non-Muslims (9:29)

You believe your opinion is "the one", I believe my opinion is "the one" the problem is when we force our opinion down the barrel of a gun. Currently there is one opinion doing that...

you are giving partial quotes without reading the explainations behind it..just like many of your kind...
take this for example...if the quran says " if a man kills your wife,rapes your children you could kill him "......HABIT7 will quote the quran says " you could kill him" .....so islam is barbaric....

ignorance is a hell of a thing....anyhow...may god bless you my brother and i hope he gives you the wisdom to make the right choices in life...you believe what you believe..and i will believe what i believe....

[Habit7]

Ignorance is not taking me to task and showing how I misrepresented each one of the references I directly used for each point.

Ignorance is just name calling and not refuting my argument.

[Dizzy28]

You have any data to back that up ZR. You really have to ask this, check the history books.
Remember,

Wars started by a Christian or inhumane acts done by a Christian =/= Wars started on inhumane acts done in the name of Christianity.
How convenient! Yet muslims are accused of side-stepping issues.
A lot of inhumane acts done during the slave trade (like rape and murder) were done because of the individual doing it. Well isn't it the same, Islam does not preach rape and murder...as outlined in the bible and practised by Catholic brothers.Everything ISIS does is in the name of Islam. And just because a minority are violent does not mean that their interpretation is wrong. For example, did you know that most people in the world are NOT Muslim... and yet Muslims believe that their religion is the right one... hmmmmm...

Not everyone will enter Paradise, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world:

Neutral non-Muslim Sources confirming Islam to be the fastest growing religion.

I will just mention a few of them.

“Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam. Although the religion began in Arabia, by 2002 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world. In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity” (Guinness World Records 2003, pg 102) (Emphasis added)

According to Reader’s digest Almanic year book Islam grew by 235% in 50 years between 1934-1984

According to CNN.

“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.

Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities.

Islam has drawn converts from all walks of life, most notably African-Americans.

What real success is it to claim you are the fastest growing?
Once again is this religion so weak that you all need the affirmation of having more adherents than anyone else?
And fyi the countries with the highest fertility rates are
1. Niger
2. Mali
3. Somalia
4. Chad
5. Burundi
6. Nigeria
7. DR Congo
8. Timor Leste
9. Uganda
10. Angola

In the top 6 there are 5 Muslim countries
Could your growth be attributed to I dunno...more children being born in Muslim countries??

[nismoid]

Religion is a farce, it only serves to promote DIVISION among humanity and nothing else

[Habit7]

Your post promotes division.

Along with ethnicity, nationality, sports, music, height, hair/eye colour, politics, etc.

The common denominator is humans, humans are divisive. They just use religion and other stuff as a basis of division.

[AdamB]

You have any data to back that up ZR. You really have to ask this, check the history books.
Remember,

Wars started by a Christian or inhumane acts done by a Christian =/= Wars started on inhumane acts done in the name of Christianity.
How convenient! Yet muslims are accused of side-stepping issues.
A lot of inhumane acts done during the slave trade (like rape and murder) were done because of the individual doing it. Well isn't it the same, Islam does not preach rape and murder...as outlined in the bible and practised by Catholic brothers.Everything ISIS does is in the name of Islam. And just because a minority are violent does not mean that their interpretation is wrong. For example, did you know that most people in the world are NOT Muslim... and yet Muslims believe that their religion is the right one... hmmmmm...

Not everyone will enter Paradise, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world:

Neutral non-Muslim Sources confirming Islam to be the fastest growing religion.

I will just mention a few of them.

“Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam. Although the religion began in Arabia, by 2002 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world. In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity” (Guinness World Records 2003, pg 102) (Emphasis added)

According to Reader’s digest Almanic year book Islam grew by 235% in 50 years between 1934-1984

According to CNN.

“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.

Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities.

Islam has drawn converts from all walks of life, most notably African-Americans.

What real success is it to claim you are the fastest growing?
Once again is this religion so weak that you all need the affirmation of having more adherents than anyone else?
And fyi the countries with the highest fertility rates are
1. Niger
2. Mali
3. Somalia
4. Chad
5. Burundi
6. Nigeria
7. DR Congo
8. Timor Leste
9. Uganda
10. Angola

In the top 6 there are 5 Muslim countries
Could your growth be attributed to I dunno...more children being born in Muslim countries??

what's the combined muslim population in those countries compared to the total population of humans on the earth?

[src1983]

Religion is a farce, it only serves to promote DIVISION among humanity and nothing else

Correct

[bluesclues]

^^^^ Christians are paying for their deeds for the millions of people that they have killed in the pass. They wiped out and enslaved the new world.
Don't forget it's Christians that start and cause the most wars and blood shed.

you might want to check out the history of the african slave trade. you may discover that it was blacks who sold ppl from other tribes and even their own tribe to the europeans as a form of trade and business. most of african slave trade was actually carried out by arabs aka muslims.

[Dizzy28]

That's just for reference.
Maybe for a change you can put down your Qur'an and read some other books/do some research and you tell me what has been the overall population growth in the Islamic world in the past 50 years as compared to everyone else.

In the meantime want more references? -
By 2030, of the current top 10 most populated countries in the world


Look at where the majority of growth is. Heck Indonesia is there at 6th as well.
(India has 14.2% Muslims which when taken as part of the +1b ppl there they are a significant growth region as well)

Seems Islam is the fastest growing religion because they making the most children.

[Habit7]

Also in many Muslim countries other religions are banned or restricted.

That claim to be the fastest growing religion rings hollow when you are born into an Islamic culture and not exposed to anything else. And if you do happen to leave Islam you are rendered an apostate and can receive up to the death penalty.

[Slartibartfast]

Exactly. A lot of people only become Muslim by lack of alternatives and then have children and raise them as Muslim to perpetuate the religion. So a lot of Muslims are only about as sincere as black Christians and Roman Catholics.

[bluesclues]

refute if you can

[zoom rader]

^^^^ Christians are paying for their deeds for the millions of people that they have killed in the pass. They wiped out and enslaved the new world.
Don't forget it's Christians that start and cause the most wars and blood shed.

you might want to check out the history of the african slave trade. you may discover that it was blacks who sold ppl from other tribes and even their own tribe to the europeans as a form of trade and business. most of african slave trade was actually carried out by arabs aka muslims.

I don't recall it was blacks that killed and enslaved the inhabitants of south American since 1500s in the name of Christianity

[zoom rader]

Also in many Muslim countries other religions are banned or restricted.

That claim to be the fastest growing religion rings hollow when you are born into an Islamic culture and not exposed to anything else. And if you do happen to leave Islam you are rendered an apostate and can receive up to the death penalty.

History only repeating it's self in the middle ages christian Europe was that if you say anything bad about Christianity or practise another religion you was put to death.

[Habit7]

I don't recall it was blacks that killed and enslaved the inhabitants of south American since 1500s in the name of Christianity

No, Europeans did it in the name of conquest for their nation, Christianity didn't instruct them to.

But I do recall Ameridians killing and enslaving each other long before Europeans arrived.

History only repeating it's self in the middle ages christian Europe was that if you say anything bad about Christianity or practise another religion you was put to death.

Christians like Martin Luther, Savonarola, Jan Hus, Anabaptists, etc were persecuted and killed by the religious political system of Rome.

Christianity doesn't call for anyone to kill in the name of Christianity. People acting wrongly in the name of Christianity is no more than me murdering someone in the name of zoomrader.

[AdamB]

Christians don't kill in the name of Christianity, no they do it because of grace as Jesus already suffered the death of man killing his god. It's on Jesus, prepaid 2014 years ago.

[HSA]

Adam is the first prophet and man that Allah (swt) has blessed on this earth to give the message of truth....AdamB giddem fayaz

[meccalli]

While we're throwing along blame on christians and ignoring the trans saharan slave trade out of africa courtesy of muhammed and co. as well as the later white slave trade in which women were captured and sold to harems, lets blame those christians again for every African descendant that is free today because Christians stood up against the evils of slavery outlined in the Bible and persuaded the British courts. Guess where they refused to free slaves? Oh right...where is ISIS again?

[HSA]

While we're throwing along blame on christians and ignoring the trans saharan slave trade out of africa courtesy of muhammed and co. as well as the later white slave trade in which women were captured and sold to harems, lets blame those christians again for every African descendant that is free today because Christians stood up against the evils of slavery outlined in the Bible and persuaded the British courts. Guess where they refused to free slaves? Oh right...where is ISIS again?

and who is muhammed

[PariaMan]

Who wrote this?

“Never forget. There is no such thing as radical Islam. All Islam is radical. There may be Muslims who don’t practice their religion, much like others. The Quran is a book that preaches hate.”

[HSA]

Who wrote this?

“Never forget. There is no such thing as radical Islam. All Islam is radical. There may be Muslims who don’t practice their religion, much like others. The Quran is a book that preaches hate.”

Question: who wrote this?
Answer : somecunt

[PariaMan]

He backs it up!

The Qur’an teaches that Muslims must fight and kill unbelievers “wherever you overtake them” until “religion is Allah’s,” i.e. Islamic law rules all societies (2:190-193). They must fight unbelievers “until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah” (8:39). Muslims are to fight unbelievers and “prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows” (8:60).

Allah tells Muhammad to “fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination” (9:73). The followers of Muhammad should imitate him in this: “O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness” (9:123). For “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves” (48:29).