COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[MaxPower]

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/thank-you-barbados/article_4f034a14-8ede-11ea-b0a7-8778eb607283.html


Nice social distancing....smh.

Hello wing,

As you can see, these 33 idiots have learnt nothing from their experience. But they are Trinis so the ignorant mentality is that they were already tested negative so why bother to SD?

Thanks to Barbados?

Where is the thanks to the T&T Govt for allowing them to enter during border closure?

[pugboy]

Theoretically they been together all the time for last couple months so they clean amongst themselves
It’s when they start mixing with other folks that goes out the door.

[Strugglerzinc]

not a few, many many businesses doing private arrangements

many gated compounds have doublesmen doing delivery on a morning...

I live a stones throw from a popular place on ave selling food by the pound
they are closed but everyday I see vehicles outside and seemingly persons inside
dont know if they are doing private catering delivery as well but there is a need for that.

I seeing a few non-essential stores advertising on facebook with the note for "private pickup", or "just call first," "by appointment only"

I don't know if that legal, but it happening

On my side in central, car parts places, mechanics, rim/tyre shops, clothes stores, A/C men, liquor mart, plant shops, car paint shops etc, etc all open.

[MaxPower]

Theoretically they been together all the time for last couple months so they clean amongst themselves
It’s when they start mixing with other folks that goes out the door.

Well true,

But they should have all kept their distance WITH masks on to send a message of responsibility and compliance for the people they seek attention from.

Now that their happy asses are home, have they offered to reimburse Barbados for accommodating them? Why bother to say thanks when they were complaining about having to cook on a small stove in a small kitchen? Or scorning the “little food stall” nearby?

“Barbados 33” my ass.

[Dizzy28]

That roadmap to reopening that sharing on WhatsApp have any truth to it??

[MaxPower]

That roadmap to reopening that sharing on WhatsApp have any truth to it??

Rumored that it’s for Ireland.

[Cantmis]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11532791/ ... exit-plan/

[pugboy]

Did the chap apologize for his racist comment yet ?

I am interested to know which injun subset they belong to,
Rich old money South Indian, penal new money ?
Valsayn old money ?

Theoretically they been together all the time for last couple months so they clean amongst themselves
It’s when they start mixing with other folks that goes out the door.

Well true,

But they should have all kept their distance WITH masks on to send a message of responsibility and compliance for the people they seek attention from.

Now that their happy asses are home, have they offered to reimburse Barbados for accommodating them? Why bother to say thanks when they were complaining about having to cook on a small stove in a small kitchen? Or scorning the “little food stall” nearby?

“Barbados 33” my ass.

[MaxPower]

Whatever T&T’s reopening guidelines are, the majority of Trinidadians will not comply. This is their nature and as always...much expected.

The TTPS are already incompetent and incapable of fighting crime and they are in no position or can even afford the resources and time or even care to “police” citizens on guideline adherence.

The Govt should look into “New Norm Guardians” who, employed by the Govt, ensure that citizens dedicate their full cooperation to the new implementations. These guardians will be able to issue warnings, reminders and issue tickets as necessary. They should be given commissions on tickets issued, encouraging them to work.

This will be a great opportunity to create employment, especially for our hard working Venezuelan brothers and sisters.

[pugboy]

that sounding like traffic wardens new job

[MaxPower]

that sounding like traffic wardens new job

Correct, they already loiter/fart around so why not make this an addition to their job description.


We have to MAKE citizens comply, not ask, plea and beg as if its a favor.

[teems1]

We are in a weird spot with respect to opening borders though, especially with the US.

Rowley said T&T has 350k passport holders who reside outside Trinidad.

Of that 350k, 250k are in the US.

Of the 250k, 150k are in NYC alone.

The US currently has 30m+ people filing for unemployment. Many of the T&T nationals who live abroad especially in NYC would be out of a job especially those paid under the table. We all know how expensive healthcare is in the US and how it is tied to your employment, so many T&T nationals would be out of a job and unable to get healthcare.

Which means a good chunk of them will be itching to jump on a plane back to T&T to take advantage of our free healthcare. Having never paid a health surcharge in their life.

[Dohplaydat]

We are in a weird spot with respect to opening borders though, especially with the US.

Rowley said T&T has 350k passport holders who reside outside Trinidad.

Of that 350k, 250k are in the US.

Of the 250k, 150k are in NYC alone.

The US currently has 30m+ people filing for unemployment. Many of the T&T nationals who live abroad especially in NYC would be out of a job especially those paid under the table. We all know how expensive healthcare is in the US and how it is tied to your employment, so many T&T nationals would be out of a job and unable to get healthcare.

Which means a good chunk of them will be itching to jump on a plane back to T&T to take advantage of our free healthcare. Having never paid a health surcharge in their life.

It is within their rights to return, unfortunately. It sets a bad and dictatorial precedent to deny citizens entry into their own country. Especially since only a handful of countries in the world locked citizens out......and those that did gave more of an advanced warning that our government.

[paid_influencer]

we really have 350,000 passport holders outside? Counting all citizens by decent I could understand, but that many with an current, up to date T&T passport?

It took me months to get a passport renewed and I live here. People illegal in NYC getting thru quick tho?

[adnj]

We are in a weird spot with respect to opening borders though, especially with the US.

Rowley said T&T has 350k passport holders who reside outside Trinidad.

Of that 350k, 250k are in the US.

Of the 250k, 150k are in NYC alone.

The US currently has 30m+ people filing for unemployment. Many of the T&T nationals who live abroad especially in NYC would be out of a job especially those paid under the table. We all know how expensive healthcare is in the US and how it is tied to your employment, so many T&T nationals would be out of a job and unable to get healthcare.

Which means a good chunk of them will be itching to jump on a plane back to T&T to take advantage of our free healthcare. Having never paid a health surcharge in their life.

It is within their rights to return, unfortunately. It sets a bad and dictatorial precedent to deny citizens entry into their own country. Especially since only a handful of countries in the world locked citizens out......and those that did gave more of an advanced warning that our government.

And once again, it is not within their rights to possibly endanger the health of other citizens. The law has been that way for more than 50 years.

The Immigration Act grants broad powers to hold or detain people on incoming vessels, hospitals or other places deemed acceptable by the ministry at the carrier's or traveler's cost when there is the threat of a contagious disease.

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39. (1) Where a medical officer is of opinion that a person seeking admission to Trinidad and Tobago is or may be, either pending his admission or pending his deportation where admission has not been granted, suffering from sickness or mental or physical disability or has been in contact with a contagious or infectious disease, such person may, where it is so directed by the Minister, Chief Immigration Officer, an immigration officer in charge of a
port of entry or a medical officer, be afforded medical treatment or held for observation or diagnosis, on board the vessel by which he was brought to Trinidad and Tobago or at an immigration station or may be removed to a suitable hospital or other place for treatment, observation or diagnosis as so directed and the cost of treatment, medical attention and maintenance shall be paid by the transportation company that brought such person to Trinidad and Tobago.

[Dohplaydat]

It is within their rights to return, unfortunately. It sets a bad and dictatorial precedent to deny citizens entry into their own country. Especially since only a handful of countries in the world locked citizens out......and those that did gave more of an advanced warning that our government.

And once again, it is not within their rights to possibly endanger the health of other citizens. The law has been that way for more than 50 years.

The Immigration Act grants broad powers to hold or detain people on incoming vessels, hospitals or other places deemed acceptable by the ministry at the carrier's or traveler's cost when there is the threat of a contagious disease.

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39. (1) Where a medical officer is of opinion that a person
seeking admission to Trinidad and Tobago is or may be, either
pending his admission or pending his deportation where admission
has not been granted, suffering from sickness or mental or physical
disability or has been in contact with a contagious or infectious disease, such person may, where it is so directed by the Minister,
Chief Immigration Officer, an immigration officer in charge of a
port of entry or a medical officer, be afforded medical treatment or
held for observation or diagnosis, on board the vessel by which he
was brought to Trinidad and Tobago or at an immigration station
or may be removed to a suitable hospital or other place for
treatment, observation or diagnosis as so directed and the cost of
treatment, medical attention and maintenance shall be paid by the
transportation company that brought such person to Trinidad and
Tobago.

Firstly, does that law apply to citizens? Secondly, it the right as a citizen do be allowed entry into your country of citizenship. In this pandemic, we had no choice but to close borders. But ultimately we cannot keep tens of thousands of trinis who have lives, homes, family, dependents, businesses and other obligations outside indefinitely.

We need to quickly put in a place a plan to bring them back in. Using strict isolation areas where they cannot contaminate each other.

Literally, every county in the world is doing this for its citizens, countries that have Covid-19 under control just like us too, so why take this overly cautious approach, while wrecking the lives of thousands?

The danger of Covid-19 breakout will be here until we have a vaccine.

[paid_influencer]

let them stay there

[Gladiator]

It is within their rights to return, unfortunately. It sets a bad and dictatorial precedent to deny citizens entry into their own country. Especially since only a handful of countries in the world locked citizens out......and those that did gave more of an advanced warning that our government.

And once again, it is not within their rights to possibly endanger the health of other citizens. The law has been that way for more than 50 years.

The Immigration Act grants broad powers to hold or detain people on incoming vessels, hospitals or other places deemed acceptable by the ministry at the carrier's or traveler's cost when there is the threat of a contagious disease.

----------

39. (1) Where a medical officer is of opinion that a person
seeking admission to Trinidad and Tobago is or may be, either
pending his admission or pending his deportation where admission
has not been granted, suffering from sickness or mental or physical
disability or has been in contact with a contagious or infectious disease, such person may, where it is so directed by the Minister,
Chief Immigration Officer, an immigration officer in charge of a
port of entry or a medical officer, be afforded medical treatment or
held for observation or diagnosis, on board the vessel by which he
was brought to Trinidad and Tobago or at an immigration station
or may be removed to a suitable hospital or other place for
treatment, observation or diagnosis as so directed and the cost of
treatment, medical attention and maintenance shall be paid by the
transportation company that brought such person to Trinidad and
Tobago.

Firstly, does that law apply to citizens? Secondly, it the right as a citizen do be allowed entry into your country of citizenship. In this pandemic, we had no choice but to close borders. But ultimately we cannot keep tens of thousands of trinis who have lives, homes, family, dependents, businesses and other obligations outside indefinitely.

We need to quickly put in a place a plan to bring them back in. Using strict isolation areas where they cannot contaminate each other.

Literally, every county in the world is doing this for its citizens, countries that have Covid-19 under control just like us too, so why take this overly cautious approach, while wrecking the lives of thousands?

The danger of Covid-19 breakout will be here until we have a vaccine.

This may happen very soon...

[No_Name]

It is within their rights to return, unfortunately. It sets a bad and dictatorial precedent to deny citizens entry into their own country. Especially since only a handful of countries in the world locked citizens out......and those that did gave more of an advanced warning that our government.

And once again, it is not within their rights to possibly endanger the health of other citizens. The law has been that way for more than 50 years.

The Immigration Act grants broad powers to hold or detain people on incoming vessels, hospitals or other places deemed acceptable by the ministry at the carrier's or traveler's cost when there is the threat of a contagious disease.

----------

39. (1) Where a medical officer is of opinion that a person
seeking admission to Trinidad and Tobago is or may be, either
pending his admission or pending his deportation where admission
has not been granted, suffering from sickness or mental or physical
disability or has been in contact with a contagious or infectious disease, such person may, where it is so directed by the Minister,
Chief Immigration Officer, an immigration officer in charge of a
port of entry or a medical officer, be afforded medical treatment or
held for observation or diagnosis, on board the vessel by which he
was brought to Trinidad and Tobago or at an immigration station
or may be removed to a suitable hospital or other place for
treatment, observation or diagnosis as so directed and the cost of
treatment, medical attention and maintenance shall be paid by the
transportation company that brought such person to Trinidad and
Tobago.

Firstly, does that law apply to citizens? Secondly, it the right as a citizen do be allowed entry into your country of citizenship. In this pandemic, we had no choice but to close borders. But ultimately we cannot keep tens of thousands of trinis who have lives, homes, family, dependents, businesses and other obligations outside indefinitely.

We need to quickly put in a place a plan to bring them back in. Using strict isolation areas where they cannot contaminate each other.

Literally, every county in the world is doing this for its citizens, countries that have Covid-19 under control just like us too, so why take this overly cautious approach, while wrecking the lives of thousands?

The danger of Covid-19 breakout will be here until we have a vaccine.

This may happen very soon...

Yep, votes hadda scrape up some how...
"Registered" Venes already eenside...

[redmanjp]

we really have 350,000 passport holders outside? Counting all citizens by decent I could understand, but that many with an current, up to date T&T passport?

It took me months to get a passport renewed and I live here. People illegal in NYC getting thru quick tho?

they should only allow RESIDENTS of T&T, not people living abroad who happen to have a TT passport but up there ages- check their passport when leaving to see if the person recently traveled or not.,

as for NYC, 1 in 3 ppl there have covid- let all ah dem stay right dey- regardless of recent travel.

[Gladiator]

we really have 350,000 passport holders outside? Counting all citizens by decent I could understand, but that many with an current, up to date T&T passport?

It took me months to get a passport renewed and I live here. People illegal in NYC getting thru quick tho?

they should only allow RESIDENTS of T&T, not people living abroad who happen to have a TT passport but up there ages- check their passport when leaving to see if the person recently traveled or not.,

as for NYC, 1 in 3 ppl there have covid- let all ah dem stay right dey- regardless of recent travel.

On the other hand this could be the ideal opportunity to repatriate the PNM voter bank... election just around the corner.

[redmanjp]

we really have 350,000 passport holders outside? Counting all citizens by decent I could understand, but that many with an current, up to date T&T passport?

It took me months to get a passport renewed and I live here. People illegal in NYC getting thru quick tho?

they should only allow RESIDENTS of T&T, not people living abroad who happen to have a TT passport but up there ages- check their passport when leaving to see if the person recently traveled or not.,

as for NYC, 1 in 3 ppl there have covid- let all ah dem stay right dey- regardless of recent travel.

On the other hand this could be the ideal opportunity to repatriate the PNM voter bank... election just around the corner.

they will have to factor in a second wave and second shutdown- but i suppose they still have time before the election

[Gem_in_i]

The NZ PM said no open borders for a long time.

[Gem_in_i]

We are in a weird spot with respect to opening borders though, especially with the US.

Rowley said T&T has 350k passport holders who reside outside Trinidad.

Of that 350k, 250k are in the US.

Of the 250k, 150k are in NYC alone..

I wonder how they got to these figures. If it is only by people who applied for passports, then am sure the number will be greater.

[Dohplaydat]

The NZ PM said no open borders for a long time.

To foriegners, they never closed their borders to citizens.

New Zealand
From March 19, New Zealand will close its borders to all non-citizens or non-permanent residents.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on March 15 everyone arriving in New Zealand will require to self-isolate for 14 days, excluding people from the Pacific Islands.

[Dohplaydat]

We are in a weird spot with respect to opening borders though, especially with the US.

Rowley said T&T has 350k passport holders who reside outside Trinidad.

Of that 350k, 250k are in the US.

Of the 250k, 150k are in NYC alone..

I wonder how they got to these figures. If it is only by people who applied for passports, then am sure the number will be greater.

These would probably be T&T passport holders who migrated to the US, I have a dozen or more family members living in the US but still have their TT passports too.

I'd say maybe 5-10% of these are real residents of T&T who need to come back with some urgency.

[Gem_in_i]

The NZ PM said no open borders for a long time.

To foriegners, they never closed their borders to citizens.

New Zealand
From March 19, New Zealand will close its borders to all non-citizens or non-permanent residents.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on March 15 everyone arriving in New Zealand will require to self-isolate for 14 days, excluding people from the Pacific Islands.

Yes, should have added the entire thing.
“ New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says the country will not have open borders with the rest of the world for "a long time to come".“

[shogun]

https://www.rferl.org/a/third-russian-d ... 91638.html

[Dohplaydat]

The NZ PM said no open borders for a long time.

To foriegners, they never closed their borders to citizens.

New Zealand
From March 19, New Zealand will close its borders to all non-citizens or non-permanent residents.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on March 15 everyone arriving in New Zealand will require to self-isolate for 14 days, excluding people from the Pacific Islands.

Yes, should have added the entire thing.
“ New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says the country will not have open borders with the rest of the world for "a long time to come".“

We are saying the same thing, I'm just clarifying they have never been closed nor will be closed to citizens of NZ.

[adnj]

French hospital discovers Covid-19 case from December

Man found to have had virus a month before government confirmed first cases

Reuters in Paris

Mon 4 May 2020 17.50 BST

Last modified on Mon 4 May 2020 18.56 BST

A French hospital that retested old samples from pneumonia patients has discovered that it treated a man with the coronavirus as early as 27 December, nearly a month before the French government confirmed its first cases.

Dr Yves Cohen, head of resuscitation at the Avicenne and Jean Verdier hospitals in the northern suburbs of Paris, told BFM TV that scientists had retested samples from 24 patients treated in December and January who tested negative for flu.

“Of the 24, we had one who was positive for Covid-19 on 27 December,” he told the news channel on Sunday.

The samples had all initially been collected to detect flu using PCR tests, the same genetic screening process that can also be used to detect the presence of the coronavirus. Each sample was retested several times to ensure that there were no errors, he added.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... r-retested