Riots in the USA

[88sins]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

[sMASH]

the last i know, we livin in the republic of trinidad and tobago, not republic of ieri.
history is written by the victors, not the righteous.

[Gladiator]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

[Redress10]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

[Kewell35]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

They didn't take the lowest indians. They took the indians that were prepared to leave everything behind to get paid more. Some were even kidnapped. If they took the lowest indians then every indian in Trinidad would have been dalits. This isn't so as some indians are from Brahmin and Kshatriya caste.

They were some who made less but didn't want to leave everything behind.

[Miktay]

BLM iz just revised Marxist philosophy...

How so exactly? care to elaborate, this is a very interesting viewpoint to have

There was a recent (bout 3 yrs ago) infographic video on 'cultural' marxism explaining all these movements including BLM, LGBQ Trans, Feminism etc, that seems to be removed because I can't find it.

This video here is about 30 years old.
The full version could be found on youtube.



edit - I found it. it was reuploaded.

Also saw a Douglas Murray one too.

Marxism requires indoctrination. The indoctrination started decades ago in the North American higher education system that are based on the neo Marxist philosophies of French philosophers Derrida and Foucault.

Derrida referred to himself as a historian.[50][51] He questioned assumptions of the Western philosophical tradition and also more broadly Western culture.[52] By questioning the dominant discourses, and trying to modify them, he attempted to democratize the university scene and to politicize it.[53] Derrida called his challenge to the assumptions of Western culture "deconstruction".[52] On some occasions, Derrida referred to deconstruction as a radicalization of a certain spirit of Marxism.[54][55]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Derrida

It’s a historical deconstruction that views everything thru the narrow lens of oppressor and oppressed.

So for example the neo Marxist interpretation of VS Naipaul’s Miguel Street Main narrative would be that Naipaul’s characters were oppressed West Indians who suffered due to the establishment’s powers.

And that’s another reason why BLM iz who they are: victims. That’s what they were taught in the tertiary school system. And that is why most people who haven’t been taught using these methods find the actions of these politically correct identity groups so incomprehensible.

On another related note: Thats also a reason most top billed US comedians no longer perform at US colleges: campus political correctness and comedy don’t mix well.

[Gladiator]

Black people getting set up bad... This is one of many videos that catch police and the state planting stones and bricks for protestors to use...

https://www.facebook.com/70112220998935 ... 227386364/

[Gladiator]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

Yes bum bum... that's exactly the point I trying to make. The poor indians came here, look where they are 4 generations ahead. People cannot live in the past and blame slavery, white people, etc etc.... they have to get up and get, its frikin 2020 for heaven's sake. You see the Jews griping... they own the world.

Have you been to the US lately.... check out the Hispanic community. They aint have no welfare checks and social security number but restaurants opening up by the 100s, they dominating the domestic labour force, they working together as a community and taking over certain sectors of trade and construction.

Freedom and obstacles my @ss...

[zoom rader]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

They didn't take the lowest indians. They took the indians that were prepared to leave everything behind to get paid more. Some were even kidnapped. If they took the lowest indians then every indian in Trinidad would have been dalits. This isn't so as some indians are from Brahmin and Kshatriya caste.

They were some who made less but didn't want to leave everything behind.

Nearly all the indos that came here was from the agricultural class. When you look thought the immigration records at the National Archives their caste are listed. Most carme from agricultural and lesser skills. Dalits would serve no purpose.

[zoom rader]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

Yes bum bum... that's exactly the point I trying to make. The poor indians came here, look where they are 4 generations ahead. People cannot live in the past and blame slavery, white people, etc etc.... they have to get up and get, its frikin 2020 for heaven's sake. You see the Jews griping... they own the world.

Have you been to the US lately.... check out the Hispanic community. They aint have no welfare checks and social security number but restaurants opening up by the 100s, they dominating the domestic labour force, they working together as a community and taking over certain sectors of trade and construction.

Freedom and obstacles my @ss...

We have a black goverment and yet still PNM ppl say are oppressed.

[Kewell35]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

They didn't take the lowest indians. They took the indians that were prepared to leave everything behind to get paid more. Some were even kidnapped. If they took the lowest indians then every indian in Trinidad would have been dalits. This isn't so as some indians are from Brahmin and Kshatriya caste.

They were some who made less but didn't want to leave everything behind.

Nearly all the indos that came here was from the agricultural class. When you look thought the immigration records at the National Archives their caste are listed. Most carme from agricultural and lesser skills. Dalits would serve no purpose.

Many but not all. The other guy said lowest indians come which are dalits. Not much of them did come. There are dalits in agricultural class as well though. In any case, what he said wasn't right.

[Dohplaydat]

Indians of all castes and classes came to Trinidad because they were poor AF in India and wanted or were fooled into going. Always remember that Indians came here because they were cheaper labour than the freed African slaves who wanted more money to work the fields for their former slaver masters.

[Redress10]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

Yes bum bum... that's exactly the point I trying to make. The poor indians came here, look where they are 4 generations ahead. People cannot live in the past and blame slavery, white people, etc etc.... they have to get up and get, its frikin 2020 for heaven's sake. You see the Jews griping... they own the world.

Have you been to the US lately.... check out the Hispanic community. They aint have no welfare checks and social security number but restaurants opening up by the 100s, they dominating the domestic labour force, they working together as a community and taking over certain sectors of trade and construction.

Freedom and obstacles my @ss...

No dumbarse...if "indians" are so special and "hardworking" then why are Indians in India still majorly suffering? They had more obstacles than us in the caribbean. There's been caste discrimination, ethnic conflicts and other forms of discrimination that still exists today. We didn't have those sort of obstacles so it was one less obstacle to overcome. Same as having decent weather and not having to suffer through a winter or drought or famine. All of these are obstacles.

It's easy for you to sit here and talk sh*t as you accustom doing but your gov't didnt infect your race with syphillis. It also didn't introduce crack into your neighbourhoods. It didn't make jim crow laws to marginalise and legally discriminate you. It didn't zone your neighbourhood to poor areas where your community wealth fund your schools and police departments.

You talking about jewish ppl? Seriously? Jewish history didn't start with the holocaust. Jewish people have been influencial and wealthy for centuries. It's this wealth and influence that caused Hitler to rise up. Latinos are latinos. They have the backing of the whole of latin america. They have entire countries and communities for support. We are technically on their lands. This is their region. Plus the kickback against latinos have already started.

Black ppl don't have community in USA because they have been historically marginalised and still being marginalised. A ghetto is not a community, it is containment. America built ghettos.

Count ya blessings you don't get to face US conditions and you get to live in ya sh*tty lil bubble in TnT. Here you not even ruled by whyt ppl. Trinis have the unique honour of being owned and controlled by the children of bedouins.

[Redress10]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

They didn't take the lowest indians. They took the indians that were prepared to leave everything behind to get paid more. Some were even kidnapped. If they took the lowest indians then every indian in Trinidad would have been dalits. This isn't so as some indians are from Brahmin and Kshatriya caste.

They were some who made less but didn't want to leave everything behind.

Nearly all the indos that came here was from the agricultural class. When you look thought the immigration records at the National Archives their caste are listed. Most carme from agricultural and lesser skills. Dalits would serve no purpose.

Many but not all. The other guy said lowest indians come which are dalits. Not much of them did come. There are dalits in agricultural class as well though. In any case, what he said wasn't right.

You tryna be technical. They were "low". These were poor people who were trying to literally feed their families. You don't hop on a ship back in the 1800s, brave rough seas where plenty persons died during the journey because you were "comfortable" in India. Even today, most ppl migrate to do low paying jobs just to put food on their table farless 200+ years ago when there was even less opportunity. Many chose not to come. Plenty never needed to.

Who leaves comforts to come in the caribbean to live in Barracks and cut cane in this sweltering heat? The well off? Oh please

[De Dragon]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

Yes bum bum... that's exactly the point I trying to make. The poor indians came here, look where they are 4 generations ahead. People cannot live in the past and blame slavery, white people, etc etc.... they have to get up and get, its frikin 2020 for heaven's sake. You see the Jews griping... they own the world.

Have you been to the US lately.... check out the Hispanic community. They aint have no welfare checks and social security number but restaurants opening up by the 100s, they dominating the domestic labour force, they working together as a community and taking over certain sectors of trade and construction.

Freedom and obstacles my @ss...

No dumbarse...if "indians" are so special and "hardworking" then why are Indians in India still majorly suffering? They had more obstacles than us in the caribbean. There's been caste discrimination, ethnic conflicts and other forms of discrimination that still exists today. We didn't have those sort of obstacles so it was one less obstacle to overcome. Same as having decent weather and not having to suffer through a winter or drought or famine. All of these are obstacles.

It's easy for you to sit here and talk sh*t as you accustom doing but your gov't didnt infect your race with syphillis. It also didn't introduce crack into your neighbourhoods. It didn't make jim crow laws to marginalise and legally discriminate you. It didn't zone your neighbourhood to poor areas where your community wealth fund your schools and police departments.

You talking about jewish ppl? Seriously? Jewish history didn't start with the holocaust. Jewish people have been influencial and wealthy for centuries. It's this wealth and influence that caused Hitler to rise up. Latinos are latinos. They have the backing of the whole of latin america. They have entire countries and communities for support. We are technically on their lands. This is their region. Plus the kickback against latinos have already started.

Black ppl don't have community in USA because they have been historically marginalised and still being marginalised. A ghetto is not a community, it is containment. America built ghettos.

Count ya blessings you don't get to face US conditions and you get to live in ya sh*tty lil bubble in TnT. Here you not even ruled by whyt ppl. Trinis have the unique honour of being owned and controlled by the children of bedouins.

Emancipate your mind Red Bloomers. You went on quite a rant there, but your statement seems to indicate that your a mental slave if you feel "owned and controlled."

[Redman]

Allyuh arguing about the caste System in an attempt to support your positions on race?

To solve any problem you have to start where you are.....not where you want to be...not where you were X years ago.

BLM and it’s allies need to keep the narrative at a level where there is no solution, focus on historical facts vs what we now have control over.

The numbers paint a picture that is an inconvenient and insurmountable truth for BLM.
In 2019,
Afro Americans account for:
13% of the population
27% of all crime.
52% of Homicide Manslaughter.

The above would logically conclude that the real problem is management.


I have my views ...that it’s a social issue that has its historical roots...but whose solution if in the future ...not in past.i don’t think that is Germaine at this point in time.

The numbers show where the focus needs to be...training and management of the police force.Aggressively Get rid of the bad apples


https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... s/table-43

[zoom rader]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

Yes bum bum... that's exactly the point I trying to make. The poor indians came here, look where they are 4 generations ahead. People cannot live in the past and blame slavery, white people, etc etc.... they have to get up and get, its frikin 2020 for heaven's sake. You see the Jews griping... they own the world.

Have you been to the US lately.... check out the Hispanic community. They aint have no welfare checks and social security number but restaurants opening up by the 100s, they dominating the domestic labour force, they working together as a community and taking over certain sectors of trade and construction.

Freedom and obstacles my @ss...

No dumbarse...if "indians" are so special and "hardworking" then why are Indians in India still majorly suffering? They had more obstacles than us in the caribbean. There's been caste discrimination, ethnic conflicts and other forms of discrimination that still exists today. We didn't have those sort of obstacles so it was one less obstacle to overcome. Same as having decent weather and not having to suffer through a winter or drought or famine. All of these are obstacles.

It's easy for you to sit here and talk sh*t as you accustom doing but your gov't didnt infect your race with syphillis. It also didn't introduce crack into your neighbourhoods. It didn't make jim crow laws to marginalise and legally discriminate you. It didn't zone your neighbourhood to poor areas where your community wealth fund your schools and police departments.

You talking about jewish ppl? Seriously? Jewish history didn't start with the holocaust. Jewish people have been influencial and wealthy for centuries. It's this wealth and influence that caused Hitler to rise up. Latinos are latinos. They have the backing of the whole of latin america. They have entire countries and communities for support. We are technically on their lands. This is their region. Plus the kickback against latinos have already started.

Black ppl don't have community in USA because they have been historically marginalised and still being marginalised. A ghetto is not a community, it is containment. America built ghettos.

Count ya blessings you don't get to face US conditions and you get to live in ya sh*tty lil bubble in TnT. Here you not even ruled by whyt ppl. Trinis have the unique honour of being owned and controlled by the children of bedouins.

Emancipate your mind Red Bloomers. You went on quite a rant there, but your statement seems to indicate that your a mental slave if you feel "owned and controlled."

He's very much anti indo, a product of a PNM household and propaganda.

He always gets heated with Indos and down plays them.

Regardless of who and what status they all came and are better off than those who sit and complain that they are oppressed.

As I said a black goverment and yet still PNM ppl say they are oppressed

[zoom rader]

Allyuh arguing about the caste System in an attempt to support your positions on race?

To solve any problem you have to start where you are.....not where you want to be...not where you were X years ago.

BLM and it’s allies need to keep the narrative at a level where there is no solution, focus on historical facts vs what we now have control over.

The numbers paint a picture that is an inconvenient and insurmountable truth for BLM.
In 2019,
Afro Americans account for:
13% of the population
27% of all crime.
52% of Homicide Manslaughter.

The above would logically conclude that the real problem is management.


I have my views ...that it’s a social issue that has its historical roots...but whose solution if in the future ...not in past.i don’t think that is Germaine at this point in time.

The numbers show where the focus needs to be...training and management of the police force.Aggressively Get rid of the bad apples


https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... s/table-43

How come PNM not sloving their crime problem with their voters ?

[Kewell35]

Its never bothered anyone until now, and his statue was in honor if him Discovering the islands, why turn into what he supposedly did to accomplish such....
People need to get the fcvk over slavery and move on with their lives, stop blaming what happened hundred of years ago to people you dont know, never knew and arent related to as being the cause for where you are in life now, your failures are yours, and not caused by something that happened in history.

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

They didn't take the lowest indians. They took the indians that were prepared to leave everything behind to get paid more. Some were even kidnapped. If they took the lowest indians then every indian in Trinidad would have been dalits. This isn't so as some indians are from Brahmin and Kshatriya caste.

They were some who made less but didn't want to leave everything behind.

Nearly all the indos that came here was from the agricultural class. When you look thought the immigration records at the National Archives their caste are listed. Most carme from agricultural and lesser skills. Dalits would serve no purpose.

Many but not all. The other guy said lowest indians come which are dalits. Not much of them did come. There are dalits in agricultural class as well though. In any case, what he said wasn't right.

You tryna be technical. They were "low". These were poor people who were trying to literally feed their families. You don't hop on a ship back in the 1800s, brave rough seas where plenty persons died during the journey because you were "comfortable" in India. Even today, most ppl migrate to do low paying jobs just to put food on their table farless 200+ years ago when there was even less opportunity. Many chose not to come. Plenty never needed to.

Who leaves comforts to come in the caribbean to live in Barracks and cut cane in this sweltering heat? The well off? Oh please

Again, not all of them were like that. Some of them did it to make more money than they were making there. It is similar to how some people migrated to the US a long time ago.

I never said the well off came because that just illogical but it wasn't all the lowest people. Your head hard boy.

[MaxPower]

I see no reason why these racists groups want to remove historic statues.

[zoom rader]

Well if all dem Dalits came , which very few came according to Immigration records then they did very well subjected to continued racism and discrimination under a black goverment.

Well done to those Dalits and charma klans.

[zoom rader]

I see no reason why these racists groups want to remove historic statues.

Sundar Popo statue under guard from PNM ppl in Debe

[Kewell35]

I see no reason why these racists groups want to remove historic statues.

Sundar Polo statue under guard from PNM ppl in Debe

sundar polo

[agent007]

If biden wins, African americans would:

1. Come out of projects and live in real neighborhoods
2. Get higher grades
3. Seek higher education
4. Reduce crime such as murders and thieving
5. Abort less babies
6. Rebuke gangster music from jamaica and from their very own country
7. Push less drugs
8. Focus less on sneakers and more on books
9. Less chrome rims and hydraulic suspensions
10. Make cities such as Detroit great again
11. Marry first then make kids and actually raise their kids
12. Would have truly emancipated themselves from mental slavery

If a Biden presidency brings that then no problem with me at all. Lets hope an open southern border does not put Mexicans where African Americans would have been placed before. Cause a proliferation of Mexicans, nobody and I mean nobody would want that.

[zoom rader]

If biden wins, African americans would:

1. Come out of projects and live in real neighborhoods
2. Get higher grades
3. Seek higher education
4. Reduce crime such as murders and thieving
5. Abort less babies
6. Rebuke gangster music from jamaica and from their very own country
7. Push less drugs
8. Focus less on sneakers and more on books
9. Less chrome rims and hydraulic suspensions
10. Make cities such as Detroit great again
11. Marry first then make kids and actually raise their kids
12. Would have truly emancipated themselves from mental slavery

If a Biden presidency brings that then no problem with me at all. Lets hope an open southern border does not put Mexicans where African Americans would have been placed before. Cause a proliferation of Mexicans, nobody and I mean nobody would want that.

But we have the same problem in Trinidad with PNM ppl .

They say they are oppressed but we under a black goverment since 1956.

So what's the problem in our home turf?

[Dohplaydat]

As it stands, BLM helps Trump far more than it helps the Dems as it unites them against Dems.

Also, if those officers receive a fair trial and the jury is unbiased, it's likely they'll get off.

Apparently some leaked reports say the bodycam footage shows Floyd resisting arrest, assaulting the officer, acting eratic and claiming he can't breathe long before they had him on the ground.

Given that, it's hard to get a 2nd-degree murder charge. Couple that with the other officers being new, being antagonized by the crowd and their tempers flaring, it's likely they'll get off.

BLM will have to start a new round of protests when the officers get off.

[Kewell35]

Apparently some leaked reports say the bodycam footage shows Floyd resisting arrest, assaulting the officer, acting eratic and claiming he can't breathe long before they had him on the ground.

Not the bodycam footage but some of it here https://leakreality.com/video/2951/brea ... st-footage

[adnj]

I see no reason why these racists groups want to remove historic statues.

Belgium Removes Burnt-Out Statue Of Colonial King Leopold II, As Statue Takedown Goes Global

Alexandra Sternlicht Forbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE A statue of Belgium’s King Leopold II, who became ultra wealthy from the enslavement of Congolese people in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, was removed by the city of Antwerp in Belgium as the movement to remove monuments of racist figures gains momentum around the globe.


BELGIUM-US-RACISM-PROTEST
Riot police protect the King Leopold II of Belgium statue during an anti-racism protest, in ... [+] KENZO TRIBOUILLARD/AFP VIA GETTY IMAGES

KEY FACTS
The statue of King Leopold II, who reportedly oversaw the mass killing of 10 million Congolese people while amassing wealth from their work in rubber plantations, has been removed from Antwerp Square by the government after it was painted by protesters on Tuesday.

Halfway across the world, officials in Texas removed a statue of Texas Rangers Capt. Jay Banks from Dallas International Airport on Tuesday due to the Texas Rangers’ history of racism and brutality against black and Latino people.

On Sunday, protesters tore down a statue of slave trader Edward Colston and tossed it into the harbor in south-west England’s Bristol.

London Mayor Sadiq Khan said Tuesday that London statues with links to slavery “should be taken down” and has set up a committee to review the city’s landmarks to make sure they reflect diversity.

Last week Confederate monuments in Alexandria and Richmond, Virginia and Birmingham, Alabama, historically sources of controversy, were removed after being targeted by protesters.

TANGENT
Now the Colston School and music venue Colston Hall, both named after Edward Colston, a member of the Royal African Company, which transported about 80,000 Africans and sold them into slavery in the Americas, will be renamed, according to the BBC.



KEY BACKGROUND
These statues of white male figures who played key roles in the legacy of racism have been quite controversial around the world for years. “In the space of 23 years this man killed more than 10 million Congolese without ever having set foot in the Congo," read an online petition to remove every Leopold II statue in Belgium, according to Al Jazeera.

Last week, a confederate soldier was removed in Alexandria, Virginia, by its owner the United Daughters of the Confederacy after it was graffitied by protesters. In Richmond, Virginia, statues of Confederate President Jefferson Davis and Confederate General Robert E. Lee were also tagged by protesters with slogans like “blood on your hands” and “no more white supremacy.”. While a long-controversial statue of former Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Mayor Frank Rizzo, known for his violent policing of gay and black people was removed by the city after it became a target of protesters.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandras ... 16eef146af

[Redress10]

If you were in a foot race & crossed the finish line first ahead of everyone & you were never disqualified for any reason, how happy would you be if the man that dragged his arse across the line dead last was declared the winner & received all the prizes & acknowledgement and all you got was a pat on the back & a "hard luck dey bai, better luck next time"?

So, the question remains. Did Columbus "discover" Trinidad? I think we can all accept that he didn't. What he did do is conquer & eventually eliminate the indigenous people that were here before his arrival. To deny these base facts would be an admission that one has no problem accepting lies as truths, and that ain't a very bright way to approach life these days.


do whatever you want with that.

If Columbus didn't "discover" Trinidad we would all be running around in draws made out of grass and shooting each other with bow and arrow.... LOL

If you fail to see the course of History that the Europeans (as evil, vile and oppressive as they were) charted for us today, then you living in a dreamland. Every aspect of life for our ancestors was a struggle, but people came out of it stronger, smarter and with the drive to succeed. The East Indians in Trinidad are the perfect example...

Some of alluh really dunce it not even funny. Europeans didn't discover Africa and start trading slaves. Africa had been known to europe for centuries before. There was trade taking place between both continents. There were black ppl in England before slavery started. There were african roman soldiers. These are historic facts.

All this talk about living in mud hut and wearing leaves is rubbish talk. Europeans took the lowest indians as indentured labourers to come to the W.I. They were desperate and poor. India had great families, armies, wealth and prosperity before the europeans colonised it. There were kings and dynasties. Didn't Alexander fail in his conquest of India?

YOUR outcome may have changed as a descendant of indentured labourers(if you are) but don't disrespect the indians who never needed to get on that boat to come here to cut cane. Any achievement that Indians etc have in TT is because of the freedom they have to just be. Plenty countries don't afford non whites that opportunity. Consider it one less obstacle they have to overcome.

They didn't take the lowest indians. They took the indians that were prepared to leave everything behind to get paid more. Some were even kidnapped. If they took the lowest indians then every indian in Trinidad would have been dalits. This isn't so as some indians are from Brahmin and Kshatriya caste.

They were some who made less but didn't want to leave everything behind.

Nearly all the indos that came here was from the agricultural class. When you look thought the immigration records at the National Archives their caste are listed. Most carme from agricultural and lesser skills. Dalits would serve no purpose.

Many but not all. The other guy said lowest indians come which are dalits. Not much of them did come. There are dalits in agricultural class as well though. In any case, what he said wasn't right.

You tryna be technical. They were "low". These were poor people who were trying to literally feed their families. You don't hop on a ship back in the 1800s, brave rough seas where plenty persons died during the journey because you were "comfortable" in India. Even today, most ppl migrate to do low paying jobs just to put food on their table farless 200+ years ago when there was even less opportunity. Many chose not to come. Plenty never needed to.

Who leaves comforts to come in the caribbean to live in Barracks and cut cane in this sweltering heat? The well off? Oh please

Again, not all of them were like that. Some of them did it to make more money than they were making there. It is similar to how some people migrated to the US a long time ago.

I never said the well off came because that just illogical but it wasn't all the lowest people. Your head hard boy.

Again, you are trying to be technical with language. It doesn't matter what "caste" they belonged to. In the eyes of the colonialist, they were all just brown bodies to be used for agriculture to gain material wealth. Remember, the caste system is something that is internal to India. It isn't recognised outside of India. No other race or culture was going to recognise or separate Indians based on their caste. They were all just brown bodies to cut cane.

This is why the notion that had they not left India, they would still be "wearing leaves and running around barefoot" is dangerous. Had colonialisation never happen there probably wouldn't have been any reason to leave. So this notion that the whyt man save africans and indians is a joke and historically inaccurate. This was only about exploitation.

[zoom rader]

As it stands, BLM helps Trump far more than it helps the Dems as it unites them against Dems.

Also, if those officers receive a fair trial and the jury is unbiased, it's likely they'll get off.

Apparently some leaked reports say the bodycam footage shows Floyd resisting arrest, assaulting the officer, acting eratic and claiming he can't breathe long before they had him on the ground.

Given that, it's hard to get a 2nd-degree murder charge. Couple that with the other officers being new, being antagonized by the crowd and their tempers flaring, it's likely they'll get off.

BLM will have to start a new round of protests when the officers get off.

The witness in Floyd SUV seated next to him gave a diffent account.