What's going on in the Middle East?

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Even their own newspaper admitted they lossed this war


For 16 years, Israel has been forced to fight war after war in order to defend itself. It won the wars in 1948, 1967, and 1973. It fought Hezbollah to a draw in 2006.
That has just changed. The peace deal it just cut with Hamas was clearly a win for Hamas and a loss for Israel. No wonder people in Gaza are cheering. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SRcKSUa558

This is what Hamas won in this war:
1. It turned world opinion against Israel.
2. It has negotiated the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners, many of whom have been sentenced to life terms.
2. While some of its leaders were killed, they will be replaced with new ones.
3. While many of its fighters were killed, according press reports, Hamas has been rebuilding its fighting wing, which now has 12,000 soldiers in Gaza.
4. Hamas has proved that Israel is willing to give up huge amounts to get a small amount in return.
5. Hamas gets to claim proudly that the October 7, 2023 massacre brought about terrific results. In fact, Israel is weaker now than it was on October 6, 2023.
6. It really pays to take hostages.
7. While much of Gaza has been destroyed, the world is about to provide huge sums in order to rebuild it. One can expect that a significant amount of these sums will indirectly wind up in Hamas’ coffers.
8. Hamas will still control Gaza. UNRWA will remain as it has been.
9. The war has created a serious rift between Israel and the United States.
10. Initially, Hamas will only have to release three hostages. It will have to release 4 more hostages shortly after that. During phase one of the deal, only a total of 33 hostages will be released. Israel may trade more Palestinian prisoners being held by Hamas for more hostages after that. Thus, at the end of phase one of the deal, Hamas will be able to continue to hold roughly 30 hostages, some of whom may already be dead.
10. Israel has failed in its objectives as stated at the beginning of the war, which included the total elimination of Hamas in Gaza.
11. It pays to commit war crimes, including not only the war crimes that Hamas committed during the October 7th massacre, but by firing thousands of missiles into Israel, every one of them a war crime.
12. The cost to Israel of this war has been enormous. Not only has Hamas been able to kill over 400 Israeli soldiers in Gaza since the October 7th massacre, but Israel’s national debt has increased substantially and its economy has been hurt as well. It has been estimated that Israel’s economic activity has been reduced over 20% by the war.
13. While Israel will get some respite from Hamas forces in Gaza, it still has the remaining parts of Iran’s axis of resistance, including the Houthis and Hamas on the West Bank, and Iran, to deal with.
14. Israel will begin to to withdraw its troops from Gaza and, for now, the killing will cease.

What Israel has obtained that it did NOT have on October 6, 2023.

1. Almost nothing.

The deal has three phases. Apparently, the terms of phase one have been agreed to. Phases two and three require additional negotiations. Hamas could refuse to negotiate reasonable conditions during these phases, making sure that it does not give anything more to Israel. Not all of the hostages will have been released. Hamas will still be able to rebuild its system of tunnels of which roughly 40% still remain.

This is not the first time that Hamas and Israel have fought wars and an agreement was reached. Every time Hamas has broken its word and started yet another war. This happened most recently in 2021. Since then it has allowed Qatar to bring millions of dollars in aid to it in return for peace. In fact, during the following two years, Hamas built its complicated system of tunnels and thousands of missiles while preparing for the October 7th massacre. There is no reason to believe that Hamas will NOT break its word and attack Israel from Gaza again.

There is an irony to all of this. Netanyahu sold his soul to the racist, ultra-religious, ultra-right wing political parties led by Smotrich and Ben Gvir in order to put together a coalition that would allow him to once again become Israel’s Prime Minister. In order to achieve this, he gave Smotrich and Ben Gvir important ministries and great control over the West Bank while retaining the Foreign Ministry and Defense ministry for Likud. He did so believing that it was critical that he be the Prime Minister in any upcoming war, which was expected to come during his present term. Unfortunately, instead of his legacy being the man who could defend Israel, he will go down as the first Prime Minister of Israel ever to lose a war.

ABOUT THE AUTHORBefore making Aliyah from the United States, I spent over three decades as a lawyer in the United States. My practice involved handling many civil rights cases, including women's- rights cases, in State and Federal courts. I handled numerous constitutional cases for the ACLU and argued one civil rights case in the United States Supreme Court. I chaired the Colorado Supreme Court's Committee on the Rules of Criminal Procedure and served on the Colorado Supreme Court's Civil Rules and Rules of Evidence Committees. Since much of my practice involved the public interest, I became interested in environmental law and worked closely with environmental organizations, including the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). I was on the Rocky Mountain Board of EDF. I received an award from the Nebraska Sierra Club as a result of winning a huge environmental case that was referred to me by EDF. I also developed significant knowledge of hazardous and radioactive waste disposal. I was involved in a number of law suits concerning waste disposal, including a highly-political one in the United States Supreme Court which involved the disposal of nuclear waste. As I child I was told by my mother, a German, Jewish refugee who fled Nazi Germany, that Israel was a place for her and her child. When I first visited Israel many years later, I understood what she meant. My feeling of belonging in Israel caused me to make Aliyah and Israel my home. Though I am retired now, I have continued my interest in activism and the world in which I find myself.RELATED TOPICS
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People who were "genocided" do not claim victory at the end of the genocide.

This is also how we know there was never a genocide

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People who were "genocided" do not claim victory at the end of the genocide.

This is also how we know there was never a genocide

That was from the Zionists times

Standing frim with the world's support defeated Zionists.

Palestinians never fought this war,

I mean 5 Billion spent

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People who were "genocided" do not claim victory at the end of the genocide.

This is also how we know there was never a genocide

This is a play from Ben Shapiro's book who constantly claims that there is no genocide and therefore it's all ok in what Israel is doing. So according to the strictest definition maybe there really isn't a genocide but that doesn't excuse the numerous war crimes committed by an army that claims to be there most moral. Hind Rajab and world aid kitchen come to mind.
It's like saying 5 people got killed locally but not withing the same hour so it was most definitely not a mass shooting

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The Palestinians pimp their children for clout.



Wah wah. Ultimately thr Palestinians are irrelevant, and in 500 years no one will care. And it's starts today

...Said the children killers

Well hamas is killing their own, so.....



Instead of building tunnels, they could have built bridges. Instead of getting rockets, they could have gotten food. Instead of thinking that they need a holy book, they could have focused on education.

The Palestinians (hamas) could have all those things....but chosed to.eff around and they will find out

[Dizzy28]

People who were "genocided" do not claim victory at the end of the genocide.

This is also how we know there was never a genocide

This is a play from Ben Shapiro's book who constantly claims that there is no genocide and therefore it's all ok in what Israel is doing. So according to the strictest definition maybe there really isn't a genocide but that doesn't excuse the numerous war crimes committed by an army that claims to be there most moral. Hind Rajab and world aid kitchen come to mind.
It's like saying 5 people got killed locally but not withing the same hour so it was most definitely not a mass shooting

Shapiro isn't claiming there is no genocide.
There isn't a genocide. There is a war. In a war civilians die at rates higher than soldiers unfortunately. It's why the League of Nations and then the United Nations were formed- to prevent wars.


The elected government of Gaza declared war on Oct 7th. Then their soldiers immediately ditched all their fatigues for Adidas track suits and went into hiding among the civilian population only to pop back up in neatly coifed fatigues the moment the cease fire was announced.

Israel fought a ground war in one of the most densely packed urban areas in the world keeping the civilian to combatant kill ratio to very impressively low standards as compared to other conflicts globally. For what the civilian casualty rate could have been one only needs to look at Russia and the Battles of Mariupol and Battle of Grozny or even Syria and the Battle of Aleppo. That's what at attempt at genocide actually looks like.

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On October 7th, the Palestinians revealed something; whenever there is quiet, it's them plotting a terrorist attack.


The level of gaslighting sMASH did makes me wonder if he is really a MAP.


The lack of attempt by paelstinians to stop the parading of female Israel hostages, clothed and then naked and the subsequent SA, shows that behind the paelstinians is a heart of a raping murderer. And if they really are wiped out it will be a net positive for humanity.

But there is no genocide, never was against the Palestinians.

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On October 7th, the Palestinians revealed something; whenever there is quiet, it's them plotting a terrorist attack.


The level of gaslighting sMASH did makes me wonder if he is really a MAP.


The lack of attempt by paelstinians to stop the parading of female Israel hostages, clothed and then naked and the subsequent SA, shows that behind the paelstinians is a heart of a raping murderer. And if they really are wiped out it will be a net positive for humanity.

But there is no genocide, never was against the Palestinians.

*Yawn @ ragebait*

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Stepping up a notch

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Not beep beep but curious ... Their networks appeared to be compromised .
Could be inside jobs

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Spam makes u a good guy...

Hope matrix dizzy and timelapse not doing the hasbarah for free, is hubdreds of millions Isreal spending

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https://youtube.com/shorts/Un796ZqPvIc? ... TiDo46p6zz

Entitled brats , the Karen's of the human race. The reason why they in est bank is cause they got too much losses on gaza. Easier to bully isolated old man and children in west bank

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Allah bless these noble Jews

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This is a Middle East thread and this is the Middle East

[sMASH]

Mosslems only funding war and destabilizing the middle east

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Bogus charges

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This is a Middle East thread and this is the Middle East

In 880, an Aksumite expeditionary force conquered the island, and an Oriental Orthodox bishop was consecrated. The Ethiopians were later dislodged by a large armada sent by Imam Al-Salt bin Malik of Oman.[11] According to the Persian geographer Ibn al-Mujawir, who testifies having arrived in Socotra from India in 1222, there were two groups of people on the island, the indigenous mountain dwellers and the foreign coastal dwellers. There were large settlements of Indian traders from Sindh and Balochistan.
In 1507, a Portuguese fleet commanded by Tristão da Cunha with Afonso de Albuquerque landed at Suq and captured the port after a stiff battle against the Mahra Sultanate. Their objective was to set a base in a strategic place on the route to India. The lack of a proper harbor and the infertility of the land led to famine and sickness in the garrison, and the Portuguese abandoned the island in 1511. The Mahra sultans took back control of the island, and the inhabitants were converted to Islam.
Decades later , people like Smash will come and say that the place rightfully belongs to his people and that the inhabitants accepted Islam whole heartedly.

[Dizzy28]

This is a Middle East thread and this is the Middle East

In 880, an Aksumite expeditionary force conquered the island, and an Oriental Orthodox bishop was consecrated. The Ethiopians were later dislodged by a large armada sent by Imam Al-Salt bin Malik of Oman.[11] According to the Persian geographer Ibn al-Mujawir, who testifies having arrived in Socotra from India in 1222, there were two groups of people on the island, the indigenous mountain dwellers and the foreign coastal dwellers. There were large settlements of Indian traders from Sindh and Balochistan.
In 1507, a Portuguese fleet commanded by Tristão da Cunha with Afonso de Albuquerque landed at Suq and captured the port after a stiff battle against the Mahra Sultanate. Their objective was to set a base in a strategic place on the route to India. The lack of a proper harbor and the infertility of the land led to famine and sickness in the garrison, and the Portuguese abandoned the island in 1511. The Mahra sultans took back control of the island, and the inhabitants were converted to Islam.
Decades later , people like Smash will come and say that the place rightfully belongs to his people and that the inhabitants accepted Islam whole heartedly.

Smash's people statistically speaking would more than likely be Hindus from the Hindi belt in India. He like almost all the descendants of Indentured labourers would be a few generations removed from some rando Bengali, Bihari or Upite.

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This is a Middle East thread and this is the Middle East

In 880, an Aksumite expeditionary force conquered the island, and an Oriental Orthodox bishop was consecrated. The Ethiopians were later dislodged by a large armada sent by Imam Al-Salt bin Malik of Oman.[11] According to the Persian geographer Ibn al-Mujawir, who testifies having arrived in Socotra from India in 1222, there were two groups of people on the island, the indigenous mountain dwellers and the foreign coastal dwellers. There were large settlements of Indian traders from Sindh and Balochistan.
In 1507, a Portuguese fleet commanded by Tristão da Cunha with Afonso de Albuquerque landed at Suq and captured the port after a stiff battle against the Mahra Sultanate. Their objective was to set a base in a strategic place on the route to India. The lack of a proper harbor and the infertility of the land led to famine and sickness in the garrison, and the Portuguese abandoned the island in 1511. The Mahra sultans took back control of the island, and the inhabitants were converted to Islam.
Decades later , people like Smash will come and say that the place rightfully belongs to his people and that the inhabitants accepted Islam whole heartedly.

Smash's people statistically speaking would more than likely be Hindus from the Hindi belt in India. He like almost all the descendants of Indentured labourers would be a few generations removed from some rando Bengali, Bihari or Upite.

Smash doesn't indentify as 'Injun'

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This is a Middle East thread and this is the Middle East

In 880, an Aksumite expeditionary force conquered the island, and an Oriental Orthodox bishop was consecrated. The Ethiopians were later dislodged by a large armada sent by Imam Al-Salt bin Malik of Oman.[11] According to the Persian geographer Ibn al-Mujawir, who testifies having arrived in Socotra from India in 1222, there were two groups of people on the island, the indigenous mountain dwellers and the foreign coastal dwellers. There were large settlements of Indian traders from Sindh and Balochistan.
In 1507, a Portuguese fleet commanded by Tristão da Cunha with Afonso de Albuquerque landed at Suq and captured the port after a stiff battle against the Mahra Sultanate. Their objective was to set a base in a strategic place on the route to India. The lack of a proper harbor and the infertility of the land led to famine and sickness in the garrison, and the Portuguese abandoned the island in 1511. The Mahra sultans took back control of the island, and the inhabitants were converted to Islam.
Decades later , people like Smash will come and say that the place rightfully belongs to his people and that the inhabitants accepted Islam whole heartedly.

Smash's people statistically speaking would more than likely be Hindus from the Hindi belt in India. He like almost all the descendants of Indentured labourers would be a few generations removed from some rando Bengali, Bihari or Upite.

Smash doesn't indentify as 'Injun'

Guilty on all charges there.

If people like islam after being conquered by it, that's awesome .

Since allyuh researching, research why Europens use the big gowns for courts and graduations, and the square hat ting with the tassel.

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Bogus charges

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Same ting the Americans did to the black power movement and black panthers and nation of Islam people , fighting segregation

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Gentile reminder that hamas/Palestinians are evil because of October 7 and the atrocities on October 7. But Isreal did the atrocities. So whomever defending Israel here, hadda question their morals .

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Reports of Isreal mass shooting and killing in north and south Gaza even as they vacate the netsarim corridor .
If sore loser is a people . Bitter and vindictive to the end. Isreal and their defenders are nasty little shitts.

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Egypt sends more troops to their raffa , while Jordan beefed up their military along west bank border.
Iran had responded to trump's acquisition talk if gaza by saying they can take them , and now Saudi is responding in kind, to Trump saying Saudi can take them by saying he can take them in Alaska and then to Greenland when he takes green land

Lebanon names it's new cabinet after it's new president , and even after American diplomat urged to get rid of hesbolah officials , they still selected 4 hesbolah on cabinet with one getting finance ministry... As we all know, finance is one of the most powerful positions in a country .


Actions and words not lining up in the middle east ...sumting bubbling.

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Strawman situation:
Venezuelan Catholics take over Trinidad and start destroying anything that isn't remotely Catholic and put people out of their homes by violent means.
The survivors flee to other countries.
50 years pass.
The trini survivors repopulate in their adopted country and want to return to their homes.
By Smash logic , there is no legitimate claim by the descendants.

[sMASH]

Correct. As long as they stop resisting , they accepted their defeat in action, and thus forfeit their claim. Even if they vex , even if they have deed they did nothing to maintain their claim.

Biting up ur self is not resistance .

If they petitioned the un, protested hard continually , then they resisted , but unarmed.


So to bring it back to the situation at hand, Palestinians were resisting zionist aggression since the Balfour declaration officially kicked off in the 1920's.

Just know, Isreal killed their own civilians just to spite hamas.
Hamas didn't want all that hostages. They wanted the soldiers in the kibutz and only prepared for some soldiers. They got civilians because isralis was using their tanks and apache helicopters to kill any hamas position in the kibutz and any thing heading back into gaza. Hamas literally saved Israelis by rushing them back into gaza.


Anybody defending Israel hadda admit they supporting evil.

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Not sure if it's official or just logically saying since Isreal resumed murdering civilians that the ceasefire is not held.

Israel never cared about its captives , they bombed and shot over 60 of them ... Its just about taking the land from the indigenous

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Correct. As long as they stop resisting , they accepted their defeat in action, and thus forfeit their claim. Even if they vex , even if they have deed they did nothing to maintain their claim.

By this logic, when Zionists eventually defeat the Palestinians,there should not be anybody coming after to claim the land.
You say 'accepted ' defeat. Is this in the same light as how many people were forced to 'accept' Islam?If so, then Palestinian 'acceptance' will be coming soon.