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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby DMan7 » February 4th, 2025, 9:36 pm

The US is trying to force peace, which makes no sense as those 2 words are the opposite of each other, forcing something to happen can't be peaceful. I've always said that in order for peace to happen one side is going to have to lose and the other side is going to have to win. Palestinians are going to lose and the Ukranians are going to lose. Russia and Israel will win in the end. That's how it always has been throughout centuries of human wars and conflicts when one side loses and the other side win only then peace will occur.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 4th, 2025, 9:40 pm

Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » February 4th, 2025, 10:54 pm

If the Palestinians want to act a fool, it's time to solve the problem for them.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 4th, 2025, 11:05 pm

Everybody is restocked


Isreal is deployed is west bank, where there isn't much resistance .
This time , Isreal will need us military to step in to try to save them.


This is a do or die moment for palestine.

What the movies say, live free or die trying.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 4th, 2025, 11:19 pm

Trump said moving 1.5m people , gaza had 2.4m befure this war. That's 900,000 ded

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 5th, 2025, 12:34 am

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1A3K2seA2x/

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby bluefete » February 5th, 2025, 2:52 am

Ethnic cleansing just like Hitler.

Palestinians will never be allowed to go back.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby alfa » February 5th, 2025, 7:17 am

Tuner Zionists and Dem tote must be hard like iron hearing that news

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » February 5th, 2025, 7:36 am

sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 5th, 2025, 7:44 am

timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
What did they colonise?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 5th, 2025, 7:51 am

alfa wrote:Tuner Zionists and Dem tote must be hard like iron hearing that news
Up to the arabs to decide what will happen in their region. Continue to be european puppy dogs or exert custody of ur own region .

As ben gurion said , the old Will and the young will forget

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 5th, 2025, 7:59 am

timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
Living in it CONTINUALLY for over 500 years, and reference to ancient occupation thousands of years prior as justification for reclamation is an absurd rationalization.

If that is a valid frame of thinking , then all indigenous people can claim back their lands from all current residents.

mY gReAt GrEaT gReAt x20 gRaNdFaThEr LiVeD hErE ThErRfOrE i CoMe To TaKe It BaCk

That reallll injun logic.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » February 5th, 2025, 8:23 am

sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
Living in it CONTINUALLY for over 500 years, and reference to ancient occupation thousands of years prior as justification for reclamation is an absurd rationalization.

If that is a valid frame of thinking , then all indigenous people can claim back their lands from all current residents.

mY gReAt GrEaT gReAt x20 gRaNdFaThEr LiVeD hErE ThErRfOrE i CoMe To TaKe It BaCk

That reallll injun logic.

Ah yes, we should all conveniently forget that fact because it doesn't support your narrative.Gotcha!
Islam seems to follow a system where; if we take it, its ours. You do not get it back.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 5th, 2025, 8:45 am

timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
Living in it CONTINUALLY for over 500 years, and reference to ancient occupation thousands of years prior as justification for reclamation is an absurd rationalization.

If that is a valid frame of thinking , then all indigenous people can claim back their lands from all current residents.

mY gReAt GrEaT gReAt x20 gRaNdFaThEr LiVeD hErE ThErRfOrE i CoMe To TaKe It BaCk

That reallll injun logic.

Ah yes, we should all conveniently forget that fact because it doesn't support your narrative.Gotcha!
Islam seems to follow a system where; if we take it, its ours. You do not get it back.
Again answer the question

What did Palestinians colonise?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 5th, 2025, 10:06 am

timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
Living in it CONTINUALLY for over 500 years, and reference to ancient occupation thousands of years prior as justification for reclamation is an absurd rationalization.

If that is a valid frame of thinking , then all indigenous people can claim back their lands from all current residents.

mY gReAt GrEaT gReAt x20 gRaNdFaThEr LiVeD hErE ThErRfOrE i CoMe To TaKe It BaCk

That reallll injun logic.

Ah yes, we should all conveniently forget that fact because it doesn't support your narrative.Gotcha!
Islam seems to follow a system where; if we take it, its ours. You do not get it back.
The same rules apply to them as well. The ottomans conquered for conquering sake and also wrong ... Just like the romans, just like the proto Europeans , just like the mongols , just like vikings , just like the African tribes , just like the native Americans.


What the did was wrong . But not UNIQUELY wrong.
And slinging out actions hundreds of years ago as justification now is just absurd and simple.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 5th, 2025, 10:09 am

zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
Living in it CONTINUALLY for over 500 years, and reference to ancient occupation thousands of years prior as justification for reclamation is an absurd rationalization.

If that is a valid frame of thinking , then all indigenous people can claim back their lands from all current residents.

mY gReAt GrEaT gReAt x20 gRaNdFaThEr LiVeD hErE ThErRfOrE i CoMe To TaKe It BaCk

That reallll injun logic.

Ah yes, we should all conveniently forget that fact because it doesn't support your narrative.Gotcha!
Islam seems to follow a system where; if we take it, its ours. You do not get it back.
Again answer the question

What did Palestinians colonise?
They don't conquer anything.. They are the RESULT of conquests over human history.

The only thing they conquered was the kibuts Isreal placed on the gaza boundary fence, to use as human sheilding incase the Palestinians exercise their human rights to resist occupation.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 5th, 2025, 10:52 am

sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
Living in it CONTINUALLY for over 500 years, and reference to ancient occupation thousands of years prior as justification for reclamation is an absurd rationalization.

If that is a valid frame of thinking , then all indigenous people can claim back their lands from all current residents.

mY gReAt GrEaT gReAt x20 gRaNdFaThEr LiVeD hErE ThErRfOrE i CoMe To TaKe It BaCk

That reallll injun logic.

Ah yes, we should all conveniently forget that fact because it doesn't support your narrative.Gotcha!
Islam seems to follow a system where; if we take it, its ours. You do not get it back.
Again answer the question

What did Palestinians colonise?
They don't conquer anything.. They are the RESULT of conquests over human history.

The only thing they conquered was the kibuts Isreal placed on the gaza boundary fence, to use as human sheilding incase the Palestinians exercise their human rights to resist occupation.
Then he and others should not make false statements.

At least have some data that shows Palestinians were/are Colonisers

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » February 5th, 2025, 10:56 am

zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
Living in it CONTINUALLY for over 500 years, and reference to ancient occupation thousands of years prior as justification for reclamation is an absurd rationalization.

If that is a valid frame of thinking , then all indigenous people can claim back their lands from all current residents.

mY gReAt GrEaT gReAt x20 gRaNdFaThEr LiVeD hErE ThErRfOrE i CoMe To TaKe It BaCk

That reallll injun logic.

Ah yes, we should all conveniently forget that fact because it doesn't support your narrative.Gotcha!
Islam seems to follow a system where; if we take it, its ours. You do not get it back.
Again answer the question

What did Palestinians colonise?

Here's your answer:
The Palestinians didn't colonize anybody.They were colonized by the Ottomans ,whose descendants are now identifying as 'Palestinian'.
Meanwhile, in Smash's head, BZZZZTTTTTT, does not fit narrative,cannot compute.
I suppose that ISIS are the rightful owners of Syria now by this logic

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 5th, 2025, 11:20 am

timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
Living in it CONTINUALLY for over 500 years, and reference to ancient occupation thousands of years prior as justification for reclamation is an absurd rationalization.

If that is a valid frame of thinking , then all indigenous people can claim back their lands from all current residents.

mY gReAt GrEaT gReAt x20 gRaNdFaThEr LiVeD hErE ThErRfOrE i CoMe To TaKe It BaCk

That reallll injun logic.

Ah yes, we should all conveniently forget that fact because it doesn't support your narrative.Gotcha!
Islam seems to follow a system where; if we take it, its ours. You do not get it back.
Again answer the question

What did Palestinians colonise?

Here's your answer:
The Palestinians didn't colonize anybody.They were colonized by the Ottomans ,whose descendants are now identifying as 'Palestinian'.
Meanwhile, in Smash's head, BZZZZTTTTTT, does not fit narrative,cannot compute.
I suppose that ISIS are the rightful owners of Syria now by this logic


Don't bring false statements that Palestinians are colonisers.

Plus if know how Arab cultures work they won't crossbreed with the different sects of Muslims or other Arabs.

Arabs & Jews marry within their family structure of cousins, 2nd cousins ect or tribes. A Turk will never marry a Palestinian or an Egyptian or the other way around.

Trinidad Syrian and Lebanese follow the same rules

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » February 5th, 2025, 11:52 am

zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
Living in it CONTINUALLY for over 500 years, and reference to ancient occupation thousands of years prior as justification for reclamation is an absurd rationalization.

If that is a valid frame of thinking , then all indigenous people can claim back their lands from all current residents.

mY gReAt GrEaT gReAt x20 gRaNdFaThEr LiVeD hErE ThErRfOrE i CoMe To TaKe It BaCk

That reallll injun logic.

Ah yes, we should all conveniently forget that fact because it doesn't support your narrative.Gotcha!
Islam seems to follow a system where; if we take it, its ours. You do not get it back.
Again answer the question

What did Palestinians colonise?

Here's your answer:
The Palestinians didn't colonize anybody.They were colonized by the Ottomans ,whose descendants are now identifying as 'Palestinian'.
Meanwhile, in Smash's head, BZZZZTTTTTT, does not fit narrative,cannot compute.
I suppose that ISIS are the rightful owners of Syria now by this logic


Don't bring false statements that Palestinians are colonisers.

Plus if know how Arab cultures work they won't crossbreed with the different sects of Muslims or other Arabs.

Arabs & Jews marry within their family structure of cousins, 2nd cousins ect or tribes. A Turk will never marry a Palestinian or an Egyptian or the other way around.

Trinidad Syrian and Lebanese follow the same rules

A simple Google search of the history of Palestine will give you the answers.

As for Arabs, under the Caliphates and the Ottomans is either convert,die or pay heavy taxes.They eradicate their opposition.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 5th, 2025, 11:53 am

zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
Living in it CONTINUALLY for over 500 years, and reference to ancient occupation thousands of years prior as justification for reclamation is an absurd rationalization.

If that is a valid frame of thinking , then all indigenous people can claim back their lands from all current residents.

mY gReAt GrEaT gReAt x20 gRaNdFaThEr LiVeD hErE ThErRfOrE i CoMe To TaKe It BaCk

That reallll injun logic.

Ah yes, we should all conveniently forget that fact because it doesn't support your narrative.Gotcha!
Islam seems to follow a system where; if we take it, its ours. You do not get it back.
Again answer the question

What did Palestinians colonise?

Here's your answer:
The Palestinians didn't colonize anybody.They were colonized by the Ottomans ,whose descendants are now identifying as 'Palestinian'.
Meanwhile, in Smash's head, BZZZZTTTTTT, does not fit narrative,cannot compute.
I suppose that ISIS are the rightful owners of Syria now by this logic


Don't bring false statements that Palestinians are colonisers.

Plus if know how Arab cultures work they won't crossbreed with the different sects of Muslims or other Arabs.

Arabs & Jews marry within their family structure of cousins, 2nd cousins ect or tribes. A Turk will never marry a Palestinian or an Egyptian or the other way around.

Trinidad Syrian and Lebanese follow the same rules


ROFL!!!!

Yaser Arafat's grandmother was Egyptian while the grandfather was Palestinian. The most famous Arab Palestinian is literally the antithesis to your BS you just typed

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby make meh care » February 5th, 2025, 12:00 pm

matr1x wrote:If the Palestinians want to act a fool, it's time to solve the problem for them.

Why are you always so abrasive and shortfused about everything in life

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby The_Honourable » February 5th, 2025, 12:22 pm

sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


sMASH... quick question. Do you think the "take over Gaza" comment by Trump is to force the hand of arab leaders in the region to finally come to the table together with the US to do something about Gaza?

Gaza is one of the most valuable geopolitical pieces of real estate in the region. If Trump serious about taking it over, the rich arab nations might want to jump in first or join the US?

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The_Honourable wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


sMASH... quick question. Do you think the "take over Gaza" comment by Trump is to force the hand of arab leaders in the region to finally come to the table together with the US to do something about Gaza?

Gaza is one of the most valuable geopolitical pieces of real estate in the region. If Trump serious about taking it over, the rich arab nations might want to jump in first or join the US?

Moving out the Palestinians and taking Gaza for Isreali beach font property has been a long term goal - this is a video from 2023, but it's not a new idea for them.
Daniella Weiss has been an advocate for Jewish settlers taking Palestinian land in the West Bank since the 1970's.
In 2010, she founded the Nachala Settlement Movement, which aims to settle and create Jewish communities in the West Bank.


Trump's plan is like them winning the lotto

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 5th, 2025, 1:10 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


The 'Palestinians' you are defending were also colonizers at a point.What makes them special,beards?
Living in it CONTINUALLY for over 500 years, and reference to ancient occupation thousands of years prior as justification for reclamation is an absurd rationalization.

If that is a valid frame of thinking , then all indigenous people can claim back their lands from all current residents.

mY gReAt GrEaT gReAt x20 gRaNdFaThEr LiVeD hErE ThErRfOrE i CoMe To TaKe It BaCk

That reallll injun logic.

Ah yes, we should all conveniently forget that fact because it doesn't support your narrative.Gotcha!
Islam seems to follow a system where; if we take it, its ours. You do not get it back.
Again answer the question

What did Palestinians colonise?

Here's your answer:
The Palestinians didn't colonize anybody.They were colonized by the Ottomans ,whose descendants are now identifying as 'Palestinian'.
Meanwhile, in Smash's head, BZZZZTTTTTT, does not fit narrative,cannot compute.
I suppose that ISIS are the rightful owners of Syria now by this logic


Don't bring false statements that Palestinians are colonisers.

Plus if know how Arab cultures work they won't crossbreed with the different sects of Muslims or other Arabs.

Arabs & Jews marry within their family structure of cousins, 2nd cousins ect or tribes. A Turk will never marry a Palestinian or an Egyptian or the other way around.

Trinidad Syrian and Lebanese follow the same rules


ROFL!!!!

Yaser Arafat's grandmother was Egyptian while the grandfather was Palestinian. The most famous Arab Palestinian is literally the antithesis to your BS you just typed
Yes thank u,

U took the bait and acknowledged who are Palestinians.


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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 5th, 2025, 1:14 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


sMASH... quick question. Do you think the "take over Gaza" comment by Trump is to force the hand of arab leaders in the region to finally come to the table together with the US to do something about Gaza?

Gaza is one of the most valuable geopolitical pieces of real estate in the region. If Trump serious about taking it over, the rich arab nations might want to jump in first or join the US?

Moving out the Palestinians and taking Gaza for Isreali beach font property has been a long term goal - this is a video from 2023, but it's not a new idea for them.
Daniella Weiss has been an advocate for Jewish settlers taking Palestinian land in the West Bank since the 1970's.
In 2010, she founded the Nachala Settlement Movement, which aims to settle and create Jewish communities in the West Bank.


Trump's plan is like them winning the lotto
It's not about the property,

It's about Palestinian oil & gas

New discoveries of natural gas in the Levant Basin are in the range of 122 trillion cubic foot while recoverable oil is estimated at 1.7 billion barrels, according to the study, entitled “The Economic Cost of Occupation for the Palestinian People: The Unrealized Oil and Natural Gas Potential.”

https://unctad.org/news/unrealized-pote ... s-reserves

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » February 5th, 2025, 2:14 pm

The Zionists are also very wrong, but to quote Smash
'What they did was wrong . But not UNIQUELY wrong.'
Watch how the same logic doesn't apply...

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 5th, 2025, 2:17 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
sMASH wrote:Colonizers are colonizers .

Its up to the arabs to decide hiw this proceeds.

The leaders have mostly been corrupt kiss assess . Now that the mask is off, it's out in the open, will they continue as pet dogs to the colonizers


sMASH... quick question. Do you think the "take over Gaza" comment by Trump is to force the hand of arab leaders in the region to finally come to the table together with the US to do something about Gaza?

Gaza is one of the most valuable geopolitical pieces of real estate in the region. If Trump serious about taking it over, the rich arab nations might want to jump in first or join the US?
It's a negotiation tactic :
U are comfortable with 10k, but sue for 100k, so other side compromises the middle ground of 20k , and u get what u set out for.

I don't know what trump playing for , but he personally , his son in law, and the zionists floating around him are all interested in beach front property .
While he have no problem with sharing gaza , he understands Palestinians will not accept it, so they hadda go. He really don't like the killing.
He not a outright psychopath like the typical politician.

He understands good and bad, but if anybody hadda suffer, is not gonna be him.

I think the assassination attempts was to tell him to take the money, don't make no waves.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 5th, 2025, 2:34 pm

timelapse wrote:The Zionists are also very wrong, but to quote Smash
'What they did was wrong . But not UNIQUELY wrong.'
Watch how the same logic doesn't apply...
The time Frame of reference is missing from that logic.

If ur people were not existing in a territory for some time and every thing moved on past ur people , thst is just history and not a claim to justify invading the place and taking it back.

If ur people in a place but generations past and nobody fighting for anything, the status quo is established , then fomenting claims to tske of the land is also not justified .. Let history be history . Like the native Americans.

If invaders came and u are resisting them , thst is ur moral right and human right under general conventions to defend ur territory. As long as u keep resistance , the invaders are occupiers and u are occupied.

Palestininsns have been resisting zionist aggression and occupation since the 1920's and that has not stopped.

South Africa did thst until the colonizer govt crashed and they all came to an agreed solution .
North Ireland came to an agreement with England and that quashed that occupation.

France resisted until Germany lost ww2 out right and then they just resumed thier country .

The Roman was removed from middle east snd north African territory by the arabs. And the Roman empire is non existent now... Except for the Vatican.

England voluntarily removed itself from captured colonies ... No fighting. As in trinidad

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 5th, 2025, 2:38 pm

sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:The Zionists are also very wrong, but to quote Smash
'What they did was wrong . But not UNIQUELY wrong.'
Watch how the same logic doesn't apply...
The time Frame of reference is missing from that logic.

If ur people were not existing in a territory for some time and every thing moved on past ur people , thst is just history and not a claim to justify invading the place and taking it back.

If ur people in a place but generations past and nobody fighting for anything, the status quo is established , then fomenting claims to tske of the land is also not justified .. Let history be history . Like the native Americans.

If invaders came and u are resisting them , thst is ur moral right and human right under general conventions to defend ur territory. As long as u keep resistance , the invaders are occupiers and u are occupied.

Palestininsns have been resisting zionist aggression and occupation since the 1920's and that has not stopped.

South Africa did thst until the colonizer govt crashed and they all came to an agreed solution .
North Ireland came to an agreement with England and that quashed that occupation.

France resisted until Germany lost ww2 out right and then they just resumed thier country .

The Roman was removed from middle east snd north African territory by the arabs. And the Roman empire is non existent now... Except for the Vatican.

England voluntarily removed itself from captured colonies ... No fighting. As in trinidad


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