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New_SPECIES wrote:eyeballz wrote:I agree, Jack did rush his selection, and his choice of standing behind this criminal did little to impress me. I'm honestly unaware that rowley had issues within. Jack isn't a saint, not in a long shot, but if we're to break away from the unc/pnm regime, he's the best horse thus far.
I believe so long as we stay with the two major parties we'd be locked in a tail spin, indian v negro. that benefits no one only the party leaders
Rowley does have internal issues with his leadership… He along with the media previously mentioned it.
The question was even raised to him in his press conference after the LGE victory.
And he got very serious and very defensive about it. He also mentioned that the democratic process of their internal elections will have the final say.
Notwithstanding the allegations made against Jack, I also agree that he too has leadership potentials. Especially since he held so much leadership positions locally and internationally almost his entire life.
But if a rumor or allegation is false, there is always some truth to it for it to start in the first place.
At the end of the day, I honestly believe that the saintest of saints can turn rotten, through politics.
So hoping for a saint to enter as a leader and leave as a saint is really not reality but more of a fantasy.
Especially since the reality of politics is far beyond the average citizen's comprehension.
There are always background controllers, such as the Generations of Syrians and their associated mafia and the Chinese Association and their associated mafia.
Those who deny this, only live in ignorance.
When these "big guns" provide sponsorship and large funding for campaigns etc, etc, etc…
they then cash in on their shares of the deal after the "sea settles".
So I find it strange when 2NRs celebrate and post images of syrians and whites holding particular party flags, when in fact they have shares in every party and control all, regardless who ends up in government.
Just to re-iterate... I still don't fully support Jack or Rowley, at least until internal issues are adjusted, settled and confirmed.
*Kamla not even a thought*
rfari wrote:Study dat ollur unc supporters hadda start getting ollur qualifications up. Dem fake cxc passes and degrees ollur like cyar cut it again
zoom rader wrote:rfari wrote:Study dat ollur unc supporters hadda start getting ollur qualifications up. Dem fake cxc passes and degrees ollur like cyar cut it again
Yuh check pios cv yet?
eyeballz wrote:De Dragon wrote:eyeballz wrote:De Dragon wrote:pioneer wrote:So that mean rowley pic heng up in de nagar at least?
Dat blasted chamar pic in the sanctified halls of the Nagar? Yuh madd?
Talk about pnm "refugees"... You only study half the history book? African's were kidnapped and forced to come here.
I wasn't too sure what a "chamar" was, so i googled it. Chick in this pic looks like a regular Trini to me.
Don't forget my boy, that it was you that came here as a refugee. You're the chamar and come here to call other ppl that? No wonder you and others are so hooked on race. That's in your blood. I feel sorry for you.
Strange enough, it's never the educated or well off that wear racism on their sleeves, it's always the poor, needy or struggling, the unhappy ones.
Maybe you made it...maybe. But being a cunny not going to erase all the tap the ignorant negro boys gave you in school.
Edit:http://www.joshuaproject.net/people-profile.php?peo3=16561&rog3=IN
Ketch yuh self! Iz School Leaving Certificate and CEPEP wuk in yuh MC! And not no jokey CEPEP wuk eh! I iz de wackaman!
Pat yourself on your back buddy. you made it. As i said earlier, your small minded hatred it's not going to erase the hard slap that the "gunta" and them gave you while in school.
zoom rader wrote:^^^ that was not a unc supporter, it was a pnm plant.
kjaglal76 wrote:zoom rader wrote:^^^ that was not a unc supporter, it was a pnm plant.
Sabriel wrote:this Bi-election isn't taking Ian seriously...
pioneer wrote:pnm police does only come out to arrest "drunk" drivers leaving bars/clubs in south, they would not dare go in the west especially after boatride party.
Setup up roadblock on de havenew and be amazed
bluefete wrote:I now looking at something here:
Earlier this week, one of Ian Alleyene's supporters punched a man in a car in Mt D'or!
Then there was a kidnapping of a man from Aranjuez on Friday evening.
Then a family in St. Joseph was robbed and stabbed on Friday/Saturday (the family is very close to me by the way so I am not in a very forgiving mood right now).
Anyone other than me seeing a link here????
What de arse going on right now??? And who is setting up these things?
PNM??? UNC??? ILP??? All three???
‘WETTIN’ FOR IAN
Exclusive poll predicts victory for PNM in St Joseph by-election
By By Irene Medina Associate Editor
Story Created: Oct 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM ECT
Just one week before voters cast their vote in the November 4 St Joseph by-election, the latest poll gives the People’s National Movement (PNM) candidate Senator Terrence Deyalsingh a commanding lead in the race.
Some 39 per cent of the 280 eligible voters surveyed voted in favour of Deyalsingh, a clinical pharmacist and lawyer, as their preferred choice for their Member of Parliament.
The PNM hopeful also scored the highest support from Afro Trinidadians (64 per cent) and “Mixed” category (67 per cent).
The poll, which was commissioned by the Express, was conducted during the period October 25-October 26 by pollster Nigel AR Henry of Solution by Simulation.
The poll has an error margin of plus/minus 5.98 per cent.
The United National Congress (UNC), the largest partner in the People’s Partnership coalition, and its candidate, former Crime Watch host Ian Alleyne, came in second with 26 per cent, while the Independent Liberal Party’s (ILP) candidate, attorney Om Lalla, attracted 19 per cent of those polled.
Fourteen per cent of the voters remain undecided up to this point.
Independent candidate comedian Errol Fabien and Michael Lopez of the Democratic National Alliance (DNA), who are also in the race, received negligible support, the poll states.
Solution by Simulation was founded by Nigel AR Henry, BS (Yale) MA (GWU), following Henry’s service as the lead numerical analyst for the Southeast United States for Barack Obama in the American presidential campaign in 2008.
After providing data analysis for clients in the United States, Solution by Simulation went on to distinguish itself by publishing the only accurate public poll for the January 2013 Tobago House of Assembly (THA) election.
Henry and his team later gained national recognition by producing an exclusive poll for the Express, the first published survey to correctly predict the results of the 2013 Chaguanas West by-election.
Proposal & Methodology
Solution by Simulation surveyed 280 likely voters in the constituency of St Joseph via Interactive Voice Recording (IVR) telephone interviews from October 25 - 26.
The margin of error for the overall sample is +/- 6.2%.
The poll was commissioned by the Express Newspapers.
Background
On September 9, 2013, Speaker of the House Wade Mark declared the seat of St Joseph vacant in accordance with the Crossing the Floor Act, after Mr Herbert Volney resigned from the UNC. The election for the St Joseph seat is to take place on November 4, 2013.
The election is significant because it is the fourth election in 2013 and is the final opportunity for the People’s Partnership Government to recover from three successive electoral defeats. It is also an opportunity for the ILP to recover from its poor showing in the Local Government Election, where it failed to prove itself as a strong force that would challenge the two major parties to the point of winning a significant block of seats.
Finally, the local government election was interpreted by political analysts to be a return to “tribal politics.”
The constituency of St Joseph is very heterogeneous ethnically, and provides an opportunity to examine the interplay between race, class, and electoral support in a seat which changed hands between the 2007 and 2010 elections.
The results of the 2007 and 2010 were “high water marks” of support for the PNM and the People’s Partnership respectively. In other words, the results of the St Joseph By-Election can reasonably be said to be an indicator of the results of a hypothetical General Election if held today.
Key Deciding Factors
St Joseph is a very heterogeneous constituency comprising of the communities of Aranguez, St Joseph proper, Petit Bourg, Mt Hope, North Valsayn, Mt D’Or, Mt Lambert, Champs Fleurs, and small portions of western Curepe and Eastern San Juan. The communities range from so-called upper class neighbourhoods such as North Valsayn, to so-called lower class neighbourhoods such as Petit Bourg and Bangladesh. Within the Constituency of St Joseph we can distinguish homogenous communities including predominantly Indo-Trinidadian communities such as Aranguez and predominantly Afro-Trinidadian communities such as Petit Bourg.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/WET ... 11201.html
mamoo_pagal wrote:bluefete wrote:I now looking at something here:
Earlier this week, one of Ian Alleyene's supporters punched a man in a car in Mt D'or!
Then there was a kidnapping of a man from Aranjuez on Friday evening.
Then a family in St. Joseph was robbed and stabbed on Friday/Saturday (the family is very close to me by the way so I am not in a very forgiving mood right now).
Anyone other than me seeing a link here????
What de arse going on right now??? And who is setting up these things?
PNM??? UNC??? ILP??? All three???
give the experience by chag. west during the by-election, I wouldn't doubt UNC. It is just a matter of time PNM or ILP thugs will be blamed. Reminds me of the guy who was killed the morning of elections, coincidence much. There is no bounds to how low the UNC will go...........
edit: sorry to hear bout the family bluey, hope they pull through. Any leads on the ppl who did it?
Habit7 wrote:‘WETTIN’ FOR IAN
Exclusive poll predicts victory for PNM in St Joseph by-election
By By Irene Medina Associate Editor
Story Created: Oct 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM ECT
Just one week before voters cast their vote in the November 4 St Joseph by-election, the latest poll gives the People’s National Movement (PNM) candidate Senator Terrence Deyalsingh a commanding lead in the race.
Some 39 per cent of the 280 eligible voters surveyed voted in favour of Deyalsingh, a clinical pharmacist and lawyer, as their preferred choice for their Member of Parliament.
The PNM hopeful also scored the highest support from Afro Trinidadians (64 per cent) and “Mixed” category (67 per cent).
The poll, which was commissioned by the Express, was conducted during the period October 25-October 26 by pollster Nigel AR Henry of Solution by Simulation.
The poll has an error margin of plus/minus 5.98 per cent.
The United National Congress (UNC), the largest partner in the People’s Partnership coalition, and its candidate, former Crime Watch host Ian Alleyne, came in second with 26 per cent, while the Independent Liberal Party’s (ILP) candidate, attorney Om Lalla, attracted 19 per cent of those polled.
Fourteen per cent of the voters remain undecided up to this point.
Independent candidate comedian Errol Fabien and Michael Lopez of the Democratic National Alliance (DNA), who are also in the race, received negligible support, the poll states.
Solution by Simulation was founded by Nigel AR Henry, BS (Yale) MA (GWU), following Henry’s service as the lead numerical analyst for the Southeast United States for Barack Obama in the American presidential campaign in 2008.
After providing data analysis for clients in the United States, Solution by Simulation went on to distinguish itself by publishing the only accurate public poll for the January 2013 Tobago House of Assembly (THA) election.
Henry and his team later gained national recognition by producing an exclusive poll for the Express, the first published survey to correctly predict the results of the 2013 Chaguanas West by-election.
Proposal & Methodology
Solution by Simulation surveyed 280 likely voters in the constituency of St Joseph via Interactive Voice Recording (IVR) telephone interviews from October 25 - 26.
The margin of error for the overall sample is +/- 6.2%.
The poll was commissioned by the Express Newspapers.
Background
On September 9, 2013, Speaker of the House Wade Mark declared the seat of St Joseph vacant in accordance with the Crossing the Floor Act, after Mr Herbert Volney resigned from the UNC. The election for the St Joseph seat is to take place on November 4, 2013.
The election is significant because it is the fourth election in 2013 and is the final opportunity for the People’s Partnership Government to recover from three successive electoral defeats. It is also an opportunity for the ILP to recover from its poor showing in the Local Government Election, where it failed to prove itself as a strong force that would challenge the two major parties to the point of winning a significant block of seats.
Finally, the local government election was interpreted by political analysts to be a return to “tribal politics.”
The constituency of St Joseph is very heterogeneous ethnically, and provides an opportunity to examine the interplay between race, class, and electoral support in a seat which changed hands between the 2007 and 2010 elections.
The results of the 2007 and 2010 were “high water marks” of support for the PNM and the People’s Partnership respectively. In other words, the results of the St Joseph By-Election can reasonably be said to be an indicator of the results of a hypothetical General Election if held today.
Key Deciding Factors
St Joseph is a very heterogeneous constituency comprising of the communities of Aranguez, St Joseph proper, Petit Bourg, Mt Hope, North Valsayn, Mt D’Or, Mt Lambert, Champs Fleurs, and small portions of western Curepe and Eastern San Juan. The communities range from so-called upper class neighbourhoods such as North Valsayn, to so-called lower class neighbourhoods such as Petit Bourg and Bangladesh. Within the Constituency of St Joseph we can distinguish homogenous communities including predominantly Indo-Trinidadian communities such as Aranguez and predominantly Afro-Trinidadian communities such as Petit Bourg.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/WET ... 11201.html
Solution by Simulation...so you might as well call it as the newspapers headlines for Nov 5.
This tribal "split vote" excuse will start to diminish as the publicly inebriated Kamla appears just as distasteful as the criminally accused Jack.
Rowley's PNM appears now to be in a second phase. The first phase was attack viciously the PP from Jack being in the Cabinet to the several motions of no confidence. Many thought it was useless but it slowly ebbed at the PP and caused many reshuffles, the MSJ pull out and finally Jacks departure. His second phase now is to portray in himself sound leadership while the PP and ILP quibble and fist fight. His brawny exterior is being marketed as reliable uprightness in the midst of the options of a substance abuser and financial fraudster. The outcome of emailgate (if it comes soon) will either bolster his status by vindicating him and vanquishing all his foes, or if emailgate is false it slightly remove some of his credibility in the midst of discredited opponents. Nevertheless, the Integrity Commission got a response from the server and is moving on with its investigation.
Any amalgamation of UNC and ILP would be even more unstable than the PP. It would be the most formidable challenge to the PNM but would still fail to win the East/West Corridor and Tobago, the corridor to gov't in T&T. If a UNC ILP coalition still wins, T&T will lose again because once again we voted in a gov't whose chief notion was win an election and now having won, the ties that bind them whittle away as efforts to secure a personal and party base would drive them apart.
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