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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby maj. tom » July 5th, 2023, 5:09 pm

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redmanjp wrote:it shows that indoctrination at younger ages through universities and now elementary and high schools is working - and the younger it starts at the more likely they will.


I'm still waiting to see someone clearly explain what indoctrination entails.
There was once a time when the majority of the world's population regarded anything outside of heterosexual relations between adults as perverse, sinful and even illegal. Now that the rainbow agenda is being pushed throughout the world, what other perverse and sinful behaviors could become acceptable? Maybe the rainbow warriors in here can elaborate.

Nelson Mandela once called T&T a rainbow country due to our racial diversity. Now certain tuners want us to be a different kind of rainbow country.


That time was called the Christian Colonization Period based on Abrahamic religion. Engrained religious bigotry and stupidity is the root cause of the closed-mindedness most people today have on sexuality. If such bigots had the capacity to just ask themselves why would it be wrong on "various perverse and sinful behaviours" they would not come to any logical conclusion except how they were told to feel about it. Many other civilizations on earth existed before Spanish and British global colonization. All of them recognized and accepted a third gender and homosexuality. Gay people have always existed. It's not something new. This current civilization has now reached another turning point of once again recognizing these facts and learning to accept our own people and move forward with treating people equally. At some stage, evolving society will be able to harness the resources and productivity of an ostracized and separated group by creating these social changes, same like with women's rights, same like with racial civil rights. Everything you say here has been said about those other groups in the past. The same reasoning and justification too with religious bigotry.

But one religious doctrine would have most people who can't think for themselves believe that it's not normal and created such a taboo on the subject that priests (not drag queens) started molesting children in the Church which protected them.

You were the one who were saying that there is so much crime today because Kamla passed a law so they would NOT beat and abuse children in schools? Hey, once they're not gay though. That's how your mind works?

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby wing » July 5th, 2023, 5:14 pm

maj. tom wrote:
wing wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:it shows that indoctrination at younger ages through universities and now elementary and high schools is working - and the younger it starts at the more likely they will.


I'm still waiting to see someone clearly explain what indoctrination entails.
There was once a time when the majority of the world's population regarded anything outside of heterosexual relations between adults as perverse, sinful and even illegal. Now that the rainbow agenda is being pushed throughout the world, what other perverse and sinful behaviors could become acceptable? Maybe the rainbow warriors in here can elaborate.

Nelson Mandela once called T&T a rainbow country due to our racial diversity. Now certain tuners want us to be a different kind of rainbow country.


That time was called the Christian Colonization Period based on Abrahamic religion. Engrained religious bigotry and stupidity is the root cause of the closed-mindedness most people today have on sexuality. If such bigots had the capacity to just ask themselves why would it be wrong on "various perverse and sinful behaviours" they would not come to any logical conclusion except how they were told to feel about it. Many other civilizations on earth existed before Spanish and British global colonization. All of them recognized and accepted a third gender and homosexuality. Gay people have always existed. It's not something new. This current civilization has now reached another turning point of once again recognizing these facts and learning to accept our own people and move forward with treating people equally. At some stage, evolving society will be able to harness the resources and productivity of an ostracized and separated group by creating these social changes, same like with women's rights, same like with racial civil rights. Everything you say here has been said about those other groups in the past. The same reasoning and justification too with religious bigotry.

But one religious doctrine would have most people who can't think for themselves believe that it's not normal and created such a taboo on the subject that priests (not drag queens) started molesting children in the Church which protected them.

You were the one who were saying that there is so much crime today because Kamla passed a law so they would NOT beat and abuse children in schools? Hey, once they're not gay though. That's how your mind works?
Would you consider pedophilia and bestiality to be ok based on your lecture above?

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby maj. tom » July 5th, 2023, 5:19 pm

You consider that will be something that society will accept in the future?
Based on my "lecture" above you cannot see that pedophilia and bestiality actually won't be accepted because it's harming other persons and animals that cannot consent to sexual relations nor even understand the extent of the physical and mental injuries that are forced upon them at the time? That's the basic model that most of this society would seem agree upon regarding how we treat others.

Please try to think on your own for a bit rather than all the engrained hysterical fear you've been taught. I always want to give so many tuners the benefit of the doubt and then they always reply with more stupidity and remove the doubt.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby wing » July 5th, 2023, 5:31 pm

maj. tom wrote:You consider that will be something that society will accept in the future?
Based on my "lecture" above you cannot see that pedophilia and bestiality actually won't be accepted because it's harming other persons and animals that cannot consent to sexual relations nor even understand the extent of the physical and mental injuries that are forced upon them at the time?

Please try to think on your own for a bit rather than all the engrained hysterical fear you've been taught. I always want to give so many tuners the benefit of the doubt and then they always reply with more stupidity and remove the doubt.
Maybe it's a good thing that I probably won't get to see Tom's utopia of animal and child abuse being normalized and legalized to cater to their depravity and calling it humanity evolving. It makes no sense trying to discuss without the bullying and insults. To each his/her own, just don't force me to accept it.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby maj. tom » July 5th, 2023, 5:35 pm

I just said it won't be accepted but you come but with a 3rd level of stupidity and then added a whining cry that you want a discussion (you don't; you already made so and so statements about how disgusted you feel and that they're perverse and sinful) and that calling you out on it is bullying.

Nobody was trying to force you to accept anything. You can live out your entire life and not have an opinion on the equality of other persons and nobody would care.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby adnj » July 5th, 2023, 5:41 pm

wing wrote:Maybe it's a good thing that I probably won't get to see Tom's utopia of animal and child abuse being normalized and legalized to cater to their depravity and calling it humanity evolving. It makes no sense trying to discuss without the bullying and insults. To each his/her own, just don't force me to accept it.


Do you believe that was bullying and insulting? Sweet kid!

You are not affected by another person's sexual preferences (unless you're having sex with them).

People who have pretended to be like everyone else have decided to no longer pretend.

I can't see how bestiality even entered the discussion. I'll just view it as a poor grab at sensationalism.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby paid_influencer » July 5th, 2023, 6:03 pm

that is why they call him broken

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby paid_influencer » July 5th, 2023, 6:41 pm

yea the whole point is respect for the individual. you are free to be who/what you want as long as you not harming or exploiting anybody. if you harm or exploit somebody then you aren't respecting them and you are wrong. even animal, you hadda get consent from animal.

now traditional caribbean culture is a little different. they call we trickydadian, smart men, etc, because we people traditionally love exploiting others. from crime to murder to fraud to rape, dais island culture. is not by accident wing asking about pedophilia and beastiality. island culture

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby alfa » July 5th, 2023, 7:18 pm

Peter minshall and Calypso rose have been gay from before Edison invented the lightbulb. They are two very popular and influencial figures in society and both have reached ripe old age being fully respected. We are now living in the most tolerant time in history so all this take about ostracized and the church is as extremely exaggerated as those who believe every gay person wants to molest them. My personal reason for not supporting the alphabet group has nothing to do with religion. If religion had encouraged this nonsense I would have been an atheist. But blaming the church and referencing racism segregation seems to sell a story. The same people who would decry those who equated vaccine mandates with segregation now singing another tune, no surprise there
Rose and minshall reached where they are today not by waving rainbow flags and trying to force their idealog onto kids but this generation of pride marching, cross dressing we're coming for you kids freaks are actually undoing the very strides made by those before them. Oh won't you think of the kids is supposed to be condescending and sarcastic but some of us actually do care about them

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby maj. tom » July 5th, 2023, 7:33 pm

So many people don't realize why this was a "meme" way back in the early 1990s on a very popular mainstream prime time tv show. A lot of things go over many people's heads on these forums. It's no coincidence that it's the same people who are convinced that they're smarter than everyone else out there, from lawyers who write pre-action protocol letters, to scientists and doctors who issue public health mandates.

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I sure rellllllll men watch the first set of X-men movies and still don't have a clue about any of the issues that the films and even comics were referencing.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby alfa » July 5th, 2023, 7:44 pm

maj. tom wrote:So many people don't realize why this was a "meme" way back in the early 1990s on a very popular mainstream prime time tv show. A lot of things go over many people's heads on these forums. It's no coincidence that it's the same people who are convinced that they're smarter than everyone else out there, from lawyers who write pre-action protocol letters, to scientists and doctors who issue public health mandates.

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I sure rellllllll men watch the first set of X-men movies and still don't have a clue about any of the issues that the films and even comics were referencing.

Nah bro all ah we dunce, only you and adjn bright.
In before he post another graph and claim he won a second time :lol:

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby maj. tom » July 5th, 2023, 8:08 pm

uhh ok.

No, for the least I am just adept enough to know of the many things that I don't know anything about.

Probably the worst part of all this is that the extent of my deliberations and IQ is simply average.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby paid_influencer » July 5th, 2023, 8:26 pm

at least jared had a coursera certificate in gender studies

where is jared

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby adnj » July 5th, 2023, 8:43 pm

alfa wrote:Peter minshall and Calypso rose have been gay from before Edison invented the lightbulb. They are two very popular and influencial figures in society and both have reached ripe old age being fully respected. We are now living in the most tolerant time in history so all this take about ostracized and the church is as extremely exaggerated as those who believe every gay person wants to molest them. My personal reason for not supporting the alphabet group has nothing to do with religion. If religion had encouraged this nonsense I would have been an atheist. But blaming the church and referencing racism segregation seems to sell a story. The same people who would decry those who equated vaccine mandates with segregation now singing another tune, no surprise there
Rose and minshall reached where they are today not by waving rainbow flags and trying to force their idealog onto kids but this generation of pride marching, cross dressing we're coming for you kids freaks are actually undoing the very strides made by those before them. Oh won't you think of the kids is supposed to be condescending and sarcastic but some of us actually do care about them


That flag waving, protesting and parading started at about the same time as other movements such as abortion rights, anti-apartheid, Berlin Wall, civil rights, VietNam war, environmental, Black Power, free speech, anti-colonialism, voting rights, etc., throughout the world.

Some of those parades, flag waving, and protests never ended. The rationale that "they have already gotten what they were looking for," appears to have never ended, either.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby redmanjp » July 6th, 2023, 2:36 pm

Policing speech is likely unconstitutional. Not to mention you are also stating biological facts. It might likely be challenged in court.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby adnj » July 6th, 2023, 2:50 pm

redmanjp wrote:Policing speech is likely unconstitutional. Not to mention you are also stating biological facts. It might likely be challenged in court.
This issue has already been tested in the US Supreme Court specific to the workplace as sexual harassment. The finding of sexual harassment extends the precedent to other public settings.

In Bostock v. Clayton County, Georgia, No. 17-1618 (S. Ct. June 15, 2020), the Supreme Court held that firing individuals because of their sexual orientation or transgender status violates Title VII’s prohibition on discrimination because of sex. The Court reached its holding by focusing on the plain text of Title VII. As the Court explained, “discrimination based on homosexuality or transgender status necessarily entails discrimination based on sex; the first cannot happen without the second.”

It is unlawful to subject an employee to workplace harassment that creates a hostile work environment based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Harassment can include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about sexual orientation (e.g., being gay or straight). Harassment can also include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about a person's transgender status or gender transition.

Although accidental misuse of a transgender employee’s preferred name and pronouns does not violate Title VII, intentionally and repeatedly using the wrong name and pronouns to refer to a transgender employee could contribute to an unlawful hostile work environment.

While the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that aren't very serious, harassment is unlawful when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 6th, 2023, 3:15 pm

They are even fighting amongst themselves!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65340857

Trans charity Mermaids loses challenge against LGB Alliance

A transgender charity's attempt to get an organisation it described as having an "anti-trans focus" removed from the charity register has been dismissed.

Mermaids launched the legal challenge after the Charity Commission registered the LGB Alliance in 2021.

Mermaids was set up in 1995 to support children and young people questioning their gender identity. It said the LGB Alliance sought to "destroy" its reputation and sources of funding.

LGB Alliance says it exists to advance the rights of lesbian, gay and bisexual (LGB) people. It insisted it is not transphobic and does not endorse discriminatory behaviour towards any group or individual.

The LGB Alliance supports lesbian, gay and bisexual people, but Mermaids alleged the group sought to undermine its charitable activities.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 6th, 2023, 3:23 pm

Mermaids: Sickos.

Why critics say trans charity Mermaids is a scandal unfolding before our eyes: A scheme to send 'harmful' breast binders to children behind parents' backs, and staff pushing puberty-blocking drugs. Is it time to withdraw its status as a charity?

Mermaids, a registered UK charity for 'gender variant' and transgender children.

It's an organisation that has received some £500,000 in National Lottery funding and more than £20,000 in government grants over the years, including being hired by the Department for Education to provide training on 'gender identity' in schools.

In the past month alone, its online help centre has told users (who say they are young as 13) that controversial hormone-blocking drugs are safe and 'totally reversible'.

Mermaids repeated such claims when approached by the Mail, saying the drugs are 'an internationally recognised safe [and] reversible healthcare option', yet current NHS guidelines say 'little is known about the long-term side effects'.

Elsewhere on its chatrooms, a Mermaids moderator publicly congratulated a 13-year-old who had written on the website that they were transgender and wanted drugs and 'all the surgeries'.

Like many troubled adolescents, the 13-year-old who logged on to an online forum was looking for guidance and support.

Calling themselves a 'female to male trans' person, they spoke of their physical self-loathing.

They were desperate, they said, to wear both a 'packer' — used to create the impression of male genitalia — and a 'binder', an item of clothing designed to flatten and constrict the breasts, and which can cause serious health issues.

'The thing is, my mum won't let me,' they wrote of the binder in 2019. 'She says it's neglect to do it for under-18s.'

No binder? No problem. The chatroom moderator offered to send the item to the troubled teenager — behind their mother's back.

Dr Hilary Cass, the former president of the Royal College of Paediatrics who is leading a review of trans children's services for the NHS, has described the restrictive garments as 'painful and potentially harmful'.

The Metropolitan Police has also confirmed that if instances of minors using binders are reported, they will be treated as potential cases of child abuse. (Binders have been shown to cause instances of breathing difficulties, chronic back pain, and even changes to the spine and broken ribs.)


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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby alfa » July 6th, 2023, 3:40 pm

adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:Policing speech is likely unconstitutional. Not to mention you are also stating biological facts. It might likely be challenged in court.
This issue has already been tested in the US Supreme Court specific to the workplace as sexual harassment. The finding of sexual harassment extends the precedent to other public settings.

In Bostock v. Clayton County, Georgia, No. 17-1618 (S. Ct. June 15, 2020), the Supreme Court held that firing individuals because of their sexual orientation or transgender status violates Title VII’s prohibition on discrimination because of sex. The Court reached its holding by focusing on the plain text of Title VII. As the Court explained, “discrimination based on homosexuality or transgender status necessarily entails discrimination based on sex; the first cannot happen without the second.”

It is unlawful to subject an employee to workplace harassment that creates a hostile work environment based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Harassment can include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about sexual orientation (e.g., being gay or straight). Harassment can also include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about a person's transgender status or gender transition.

Although accidental misuse of a transgender employee’s preferred name and pronouns does not violate Title VII, intentionally and repeatedly using the wrong name and pronouns to refer to a transgender employee could contribute to an unlawful hostile work environment.

While the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that aren't very serious, harassment is unlawful when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer.

Selling a homo book in RIK , freedom of speech. Calling someone what they actually are despite what they think they are, hate speech. No agenda here at all

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby adnj » July 6th, 2023, 3:50 pm

alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:Policing speech is likely unconstitutional. Not to mention you are also stating biological facts. It might likely be challenged in court.
This issue has already been tested in the US Supreme Court specific to the workplace as sexual harassment. The finding of sexual harassment extends the precedent to other public settings.

In Bostock v. Clayton County, Georgia, No. 17-1618 (S. Ct. June 15, 2020), the Supreme Court held that firing individuals because of their sexual orientation or transgender status violates Title VII’s prohibition on discrimination because of sex. The Court reached its holding by focusing on the plain text of Title VII. As the Court explained, “discrimination based on homosexuality or transgender status necessarily entails discrimination based on sex; the first cannot happen without the second.”

It is unlawful to subject an employee to workplace harassment that creates a hostile work environment based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Harassment can include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about sexual orientation (e.g., being gay or straight). Harassment can also include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about a person's transgender status or gender transition.

Although accidental misuse of a transgender employee’s preferred name and pronouns does not violate Title VII, intentionally and repeatedly using the wrong name and pronouns to refer to a transgender employee could contribute to an unlawful hostile work environment.

While the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that aren't very serious, harassment is unlawful when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer.

Selling a homo book in RIK , freedom of speech. Calling someone what they actually are despite what they think they are, hate speech. No agenda here at all


If you're not buying the book, or if you don't need to speak to the LGBTQ person, why are you so threatened? Why would you bother being so deliberately odious?

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby redmanjp » July 6th, 2023, 5:30 pm

^ at some point maybe he will if its a coworker of his.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby alfa » July 6th, 2023, 6:01 pm

adnj wrote:
alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:Policing speech is likely unconstitutional. Not to mention you are also stating biological facts. It might likely be challenged in court.
This issue has already been tested in the US Supreme Court specific to the workplace as sexual harassment. The finding of sexual harassment extends the precedent to other public settings.

In Bostock v. Clayton County, Georgia, No. 17-1618 (S. Ct. June 15, 2020), the Supreme Court held that firing individuals because of their sexual orientation or transgender status violates Title VII’s prohibition on discrimination because of sex. The Court reached its holding by focusing on the plain text of Title VII. As the Court explained, “discrimination based on homosexuality or transgender status necessarily entails discrimination based on sex; the first cannot happen without the second.”

It is unlawful to subject an employee to workplace harassment that creates a hostile work environment based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Harassment can include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about sexual orientation (e.g., being gay or straight). Harassment can also include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about a person's transgender status or gender transition.

Although accidental misuse of a transgender employee’s preferred name and pronouns does not violate Title VII, intentionally and repeatedly using the wrong name and pronouns to refer to a transgender employee could contribute to an unlawful hostile work environment.

While the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that aren't very serious, harassment is unlawful when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer.

Selling a homo book in RIK , freedom of speech. Calling someone what they actually are despite what they think they are, hate speech. No agenda here at all


If you're not buying the book, or if you don't need to speak to the LGBTQ person, why are you so threatened? Why would you bother being so deliberately odious?

I was merely pointing out the contradictions in logic, but you already knew that but playing obtuse

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 6th, 2023, 6:14 pm

alfa wrote:Selling a homo book in RIK , freedom of speech. Calling someone what they actually are despite what they think they are, hate speech. No agenda here at all


THIS ALL THE WAY!

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby adnj » July 6th, 2023, 6:26 pm

alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:Policing speech is likely unconstitutional. Not to mention you are also stating biological facts. It might likely be challenged in court.
This issue has already been tested in the US Supreme Court specific to the workplace as sexual harassment. The finding of sexual harassment extends the precedent to other public settings.

In Bostock v. Clayton County, Georgia, No. 17-1618 (S. Ct. June 15, 2020), the Supreme Court held that firing individuals because of their sexual orientation or transgender status violates Title VII’s prohibition on discrimination because of sex. The Court reached its holding by focusing on the plain text of Title VII. As the Court explained, “discrimination based on homosexuality or transgender status necessarily entails discrimination based on sex; the first cannot happen without the second.”

It is unlawful to subject an employee to workplace harassment that creates a hostile work environment based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Harassment can include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about sexual orientation (e.g., being gay or straight). Harassment can also include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about a person's transgender status or gender transition.

Although accidental misuse of a transgender employee’s preferred name and pronouns does not violate Title VII, intentionally and repeatedly using the wrong name and pronouns to refer to a transgender employee could contribute to an unlawful hostile work environment.

While the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that aren't very serious, harassment is unlawful when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer.

Selling a homo book in RIK , freedom of speech. Calling someone what they actually are despite what they think they are, hate speech. No agenda here at all


If you're not buying the book, or if you don't need to speak to the LGBTQ person, why are you so threatened? Why would you bother being so deliberately odious?

I was merely pointing out the contradictions in logic, but you already knew that but playing obtuse


I really feel badly when people present a logic fallacy in an argument and don't realize it.

Print your book about what you think. That would be a parallel. Then see if it sells anywhere. That is your disappointment.

If not acknowledging the dark underside of your frustration is something that you dislike, then feel free to hate me. I don't mind at all. The fact of the matter is, you are on the losing end of yet another argument based on opinion and misinformation. You want the world a certain way; I don't see that happening in my lifetime.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby alfa » July 6th, 2023, 6:53 pm

adnj wrote:
alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:Policing speech is likely unconstitutional. Not to mention you are also stating biological facts. It might likely be challenged in court.
This issue has already been tested in the US Supreme Court specific to the workplace as sexual harassment. The finding of sexual harassment extends the precedent to other public settings.

In Bostock v. Clayton County, Georgia, No. 17-1618 (S. Ct. June 15, 2020), the Supreme Court held that firing individuals because of their sexual orientation or transgender status violates Title VII’s prohibition on discrimination because of sex. The Court reached its holding by focusing on the plain text of Title VII. As the Court explained, “discrimination based on homosexuality or transgender status necessarily entails discrimination based on sex; the first cannot happen without the second.”

It is unlawful to subject an employee to workplace harassment that creates a hostile work environment based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Harassment can include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about sexual orientation (e.g., being gay or straight). Harassment can also include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about a person's transgender status or gender transition.

Although accidental misuse of a transgender employee’s preferred name and pronouns does not violate Title VII, intentionally and repeatedly using the wrong name and pronouns to refer to a transgender employee could contribute to an unlawful hostile work environment.

While the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that aren't very serious, harassment is unlawful when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer.

Selling a homo book in RIK , freedom of speech. Calling someone what they actually are despite what they think they are, hate speech. No agenda here at all


If you're not buying the book, or if you don't need to speak to the LGBTQ person, why are you so threatened? Why would you bother being so deliberately odious?

I was merely pointing out the contradictions in logic, but you already knew that but playing obtuse


I really feel badly when people present a logic fallacy in an argument and don't realize it.

Print your book about what you think. That would be a parallel. Then see if it sells anywhere. That is your disappointment.

If not acknowledging the dark underside of your frustration is something that you dislike, then feel free to hate me. I don't mind at all. The fact of the matter is, you are on the losing end of yet another argument based on opinion and misinformation. You want the world a certain way; I don't see that happening in my lifetime.

Well you feel free to bark at a dude who identifies as a dog as he raises his leg to piss on you. As for me I'm to old to be entertaining these mental illness games. And you could claim you won this one too if it'll make you feel important

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby adnj » July 6th, 2023, 7:05 pm

alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:Policing speech is likely unconstitutional. Not to mention you are also stating biological facts. It might likely be challenged in court.
This issue has already been tested in the US Supreme Court specific to the workplace as sexual harassment. The finding of sexual harassment extends the precedent to other public settings.

In Bostock v. Clayton County, Georgia, No. 17-1618 (S. Ct. June 15, 2020), the Supreme Court held that firing individuals because of their sexual orientation or transgender status violates Title VII’s prohibition on discrimination because of sex. The Court reached its holding by focusing on the plain text of Title VII. As the Court explained, “discrimination based on homosexuality or transgender status necessarily entails discrimination based on sex; the first cannot happen without the second.”

It is unlawful to subject an employee to workplace harassment that creates a hostile work environment based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Harassment can include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about sexual orientation (e.g., being gay or straight). Harassment can also include, for example, offensive or derogatory remarks about a person's transgender status or gender transition.

Although accidental misuse of a transgender employee’s preferred name and pronouns does not violate Title VII, intentionally and repeatedly using the wrong name and pronouns to refer to a transgender employee could contribute to an unlawful hostile work environment.

While the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that aren't very serious, harassment is unlawful when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer.

Selling a homo book in RIK , freedom of speech. Calling someone what they actually are despite what they think they are, hate speech. No agenda here at all


If you're not buying the book, or if you don't need to speak to the LGBTQ person, why are you so threatened? Why would you bother being so deliberately odious?

I was merely pointing out the contradictions in logic, but you already knew that but playing obtuse


I really feel badly when people present a logic fallacy in an argument and don't realize it.

Print your book about what you think. That would be a parallel. Then see if it sells anywhere. That is your disappointment.

If not acknowledging the dark underside of your frustration is something that you dislike, then feel free to hate me. I don't mind at all. The fact of the matter is, you are on the losing end of yet another argument based on opinion and misinformation. You want the world a certain way; I don't see that happening in my lifetime.

Well you feel free to bark at a dude who identifies as a dog as he raises his leg to piss on you. As for me I'm to old to be entertaining these mental illness games. And you could claim you won this one too if it'll make you feel important


Reading these posts is certainly an exercise for me. You seem to create quite a few imaginary scenarios and inject yourself into them to justify taking umbrage.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby redmanjp » July 6th, 2023, 7:24 pm

children done already identifying as cats an purring in class. it's not a stretch.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 6th, 2023, 7:42 pm

redmanjp wrote:children done already identifying as cats an purring in class. it's not a stretch.


Correct. The furries have arrived in children's schools.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby Rovin » July 6th, 2023, 7:44 pm

i remember yrsssssss ago b4 d net when cable used to show free on local tv late at night, it was either hbo\cinemax\showtime that had a documentary about odd human behavior, adult ppl who perfectly normel going to work & ting but when they got home they behaved & dressed as either a cat, dog or baby putting on fur outfits or baby clothes, laying in a adult size crib with a milk bottle too . Next day they go to work & out about like nothing happen

point is, all of this is nothing new\recent ...

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