2020 Murder toll ched

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Confirmed yes^

162: julien emmanuel shot and killed

[agent007]

Current murder rate = just under 1.49
Updated 2020 forecast = 544

**On March 4th, our murder rate peaked at 1.796875 per day which theoretically gave us a 2020 est. of 658 (a record high)**

And just like that, in 45 days, 114 lives in T&T were saved and counting...

[maj. tom]

Confirmed yes^

162: julien emmanuel shot and killed

Police have detained a man for the shooting death of a Assistant Superintendent of Police in Chaguanas yesterday. The crime was allegedly committed with the officer’s firearm.

According to reports, the incident occured as the off-duty officer, Special Reserve ASP Julien Emmanuel, got into an argument with another man over the dumping of chemicals at the officer’s home at Edinburgh 500, Chaguanas, yesterday.

According to a police report, ASP Emmanuel went inside his home and returned with a baton. A fight broke out between the two during which the neighbour took Emmanuel’s baton and beat him with it.

Emmanuel then went inside his home and returned with his licensed gun. (Why? To threaten to kill? The baton wasn't enough to disarm the opponent? That's what he learned as a police officer how to handle an argument?) Both Emmanuel and the man began to fight again and this time, during the struggle, Emmanuel was shot by the man who managed to take away the weapon from him. Emmanuel was taken to the Chaguanas District Health Facility where he died while undergoing treatment.

Police said Emmanuel was shot in the chest.
Police said the suspect escaped with the gun and but was later held and the firearm recovered.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/police-a ... 791cdcf89a

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Current murder rate = just under 1.49
Updated 2020 forecast = 544

**On March 4th, our murder rate peaked at 1.796875 per day which theoretically gave us a 2020 est. of 658 (a record high)**

And just like that, in 45 days, 114 lives in T&T were saved and counting...

Thank god for covid 19

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163: sheldon beepath beaten to death in bamboo#2

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164: danny fernandez shot and killed in bon air

[killercow]

Thank god for covid 19

Never thought I'd hear someone say this na. Things rell sad in T&T. Nevertheless COVID-19 seems to be helping our homicide rate somewhat.

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Thank god for covid 19

Never thought I'd hear someone say this na. Things rell sad in T&T. Nevertheless COVID-19 seems to be helping our homicide rate somewhat.

Very sad...but true

[FrankChag]

Thank god for covid 19

Never thought I'd hear someone say this na. Things rell sad in T&T. Nevertheless COVID-19 seems to be helping our homicide rate somewhat.

Yea,, sry to burst your bubble there johnny.. we're on the same trajectory as previous 2 yrs and we're already worse than this time last year... covid-19/lockdown doing jack#### for the murder rate (so far anyways).

April 21, 2020 == 164
April 21, 2019 == 152
April 21, 2018 == 169




Source Threads:
2020 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=750112
2019 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=737072
2018 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=718841


Google sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

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a couple more could very well be added to that toll but I'm not sure what going on with autopsies etc

[VII]

The point is it was going to be worse..

Thank god for covid 19

Never thought I'd hear someone say this na. Things rell sad in T&T. Nevertheless COVID-19 seems to be helping our homicide rate somewhat.

Yea,, sry to burst your bubble there johnny.. we're on the same trajectory as previous 2 yrs and we're already worse than this time last year... covid-19/lockdown doing jack#### for the murder rate (so far anyways).

April 21, 2020 == 164
April 21, 2019 == 152
April 21, 2018 == 169




Source Threads:
2020 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=750112
2019 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=737072
2018 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=718841


Google sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

[FrankChag]

The point was the murder rate was going down because of covid; but that's not true.
It's just not part of the daily news cycle because everything is covid, but the murders still there.
And, the murders and other crime might go UP in the next few months as the economy slows down.

The point is it was going to be worse..

Thank god for covid 19

Never thought I'd hear someone say this na. Things rell sad in T&T. Nevertheless COVID-19 seems to be helping our homicide rate somewhat.

Yea,, sry to burst your bubble there johnny.. we're on the same trajectory as previous 2 yrs and we're already worse than this time last year... covid-19/lockdown doing jack#### for the murder rate (so far anyways).

April 21, 2020 == 164
April 21, 2019 == 152
April 21, 2018 == 169




Source Threads:
2020 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=750112
2019 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=737072
2018 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=718841


Google sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

[agent007]

Both of you have a point. The figures currently does not represent a drop in murders per say but at the same time, the rate did increase for the period (January to March 2020).

As per my previous posts, it could have been worse as we were on track to meet 659 for 2020.

Now in the criminal/gang world, those who were marked to be killed, may eventually be killed. So when the country opens back up and returns to some form of normalcy, things can pick back up.

So based on the current rate (as at today), we are on track to meet 531 for 2020. The record high was 550 back in 2008. There is a 51% probability that we may pass that 2008 record this year.

[K74T]

Reports of two decapitated bodies found in Guapo, Point Fortin.

[Gladiator]

Reports of two decapitated bodies found in Guapo, Point Fortin.

Yeah boy that one real gruesome.... hope that the media behaves responsibly and not like the Thakur Boodram (Dole Brother) murder and have the decapitation on the front page of the newspaper. I was a small fella in them days and that picture haunted me for weeks...

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Reports of two decapitated bodies found in Guapo, Point Fortin.

165
166
Confirmed...said to be a man and woman..them pics real grimey though

[Blaze d Chalice]

Ollor really feel the Covid will stop them?
Them fellas have names written down.

As lockdown is removed, brace yourself for all kinda 5,6,7 deaths daily to make up for lost time.

[FrankChag]

Yea, just fyi bro, be careful when jumping to conclusions with time-series/panel data.
3 or 4 data points, not a suitable regression model maketh.
You have men here thanking God for covid19 because of a small probably not sig. uptick.

Both of you have a point. The figures currently does not represent a drop in murders per say but at the same time, the rate did increase for the period (January to March 2020).

As per my previous posts, it could have been worse as we were on track to meet 659 for 2020.

Now in the criminal/gang world, those who were marked to be killed, may eventually be killed. So when the country opens back up and returns to some form of normalcy, things can pick back up.

So based on the current rate (as at today), we are on track to meet 531 for 2020. The record high was 550 back in 2008. There is a 51% probability that we may pass that 2008 record this year.

[FrankChag]

Coincidently, Guardian/cnc3 ran this piece tonight... Similar conclusions.
Their data always +/- a few points off tuner's crowdsourced data.
Frankly, I trust tuner's data a little more, bc there are names next to each observation.

Murders up in March despite COVID restrictions
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/murders- ... e387867dc6

Even as serious crimes have reportedly been on the decrease during the current COVID-19 pandemic in T&T, the murder rate continues to rise with the count reaching 159 as compared to 151 for same period last year up to Wednesday.

Speaking during Wednesday’s daily media briefing hosted by the Ministry of Health, National Security Minister Stuart Young said the decrease in serious crimes had been as a result of the ministry “implementing a lot of operations to deal with it”.

“I can assure you that a lot of work is being done to keep that crime and criminality down. The measures are very specific measures to deal with COVID-19 in trying to make Trinidad and Tobago a safer place,” Young said.

According to statistics sent to the Guardian Media by the T&T Police Service’s (TTPS) Crime and Problem Analysis Branch for the month of March this year, the total reports of serious crimes stood at 741, with a 29 per cent detection rate, as compared to 1,135 with a 33 per cent detection rate over the same month last year and 1,191 with a 37 per cent detection rate in 2018.

However, March’s murder count stood at 35 as compared to 38 last year and 36 in 2018. Of the 35 murders last month, police were only able to make an arrest and lay charges in one of them.



Out of an overall total of 741 serious crimes last month, 35 were murders, 48 shootings and woundings, 29 reports of rape, incest and sexual offences.

Robberies also decreased significantly last month in comparison to March last year. The number of robberies stood at 189 last month, in comparison to 260 in March last year.

Only on Tuesday, police preventing of a burglary at a jewellery store in Tunapuna. According to a police report, officers were on routine mobile patrol along the Eastern Main Road when they saw a group of men running away from the store. The officers stopped to investigate and found several bags containing tools to break into the premises. However, the suspects escaped.

Last week, the police also started random roadblock exercises to ensure that people who did not need to be outside to conduct business or were not essential workers stayed off the nation’s roads.

On March 18, Police Commissioner Gary Griffith also advised citizens that officers would ramp up the enforcement of the country’s loitering laws over the coming weeks in an attempt to keep people from assembling in large numbers during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Griffith said this is being done in line with the request of Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley that the public practises social distancing at this time.

However, the CoP said while a large section of the population has adhered to the request, he anticipates that few would refuse to comply. Still, he said he hopes there would be no need to enforce the laws relating to loitering and assured that over the coming weeks, the TTPS will increase its patrols across the country.

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that double murder is the beginning of things to come (ie vene gangs). Earlier this week a vene national was robbed of his groceries by a taxi driver. It is believed that this was payback. In addition to the murders, the victim vehicle was also burnt

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167: unidentified female shot and killed in couva

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167: unidentified female shot and killed in couva

168: unidentified male was also shot...he died on his way to hospital

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Reports of two decapitated bodies found in Guapo, Point Fortin.

165
166
Confirmed...said to be a man and woman..them pics real grimey though

It is possible that the duo are

Anthony Jackson and
Aliyah thomas

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167: unidentified female shot and killed in couva

168: unidentified male was also shot...he died on his way to hospital

Identified as vishal and vishanie chitbahal...brother and sister

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169: shameed ali shot and killed in sangre grande

[zoom rader]

Is only raj getting killed now ?

[bluefete]

that double murder is the beginning of things to come (ie vene gangs). Earlier this week a vene national was robbed of his groceries by a taxi driver. It is believed that this was payback. In addition to the murders, the victim vehicle was also burnt

So dey find de taxi driver and keel him together with someone else or did they just kill 2 others in revenge?

[bluefete]

167: unidentified female shot and killed in couva

168: unidentified male was also shot...he died on his way to hospital

Identified as vishal and vishanie chitbahal...brother and sister

This one was real sad. But there must be an underlying motive.

[maj. tom]

It was an execution.

So what were they involved in?

The siblings lived with their parents.

Police said the family was asleep when two gunmen entered at around 1am.
The men woke up the family and ordered them into the living room.
Police said the woman was shot first in the head. She collapsed and died at the scene.

Her brother was also shot in the head. The parents were spared.
Police said the men then ran out of the house and escaped in a waiting car.
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 3af09.html

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Herbs and spices^