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slippy1 wrote:It's both funny and LUDICROUS to think that the former AG wouldn't have mentioned that West was a witness in his defamation lawsuit. WASN'T HE THE LEGAL ADVISOR TO THE GOVERNMENT?
If he didn't tell her, then he must have felt that it was either none of her business, or that she was just to stupid to know.
Didn't she discuss West's appointment with her Cabinet, or for the VERY LEAST with her Attorney General?
Did she pick David West's name out of a hat and told NO ONE but the Opposition leader and the President?
If so, then who's really running this government? NO ONE seems to know what they are doing?
NO ONE seems to be advising each other or consulting each other. Where is the communication? Is this a MARKET STALL or a country being run here?
bluesclues wrote:LOL indeed. nice story.:lol:
orangefox wrote:
You seem to have a problem with greed and corruption
88sins wrote:orangefox wrote:
You seem to have a problem with greed and corruption
I, nor any sane, logical individual, would encourage greed or corruption in the ppl responsible for managing a nation's wealth or image. So yes I have a problem with greed & corruption
If you like your government greedy & corrupt, haul yuh blasted ass back to d bush in berbice yuh illgal immigrant idiot
. All the evidence of being politically dead was scrolled across the face and occupied the being of Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar as she sought to lead the living to the political graveyard in a dance of death, political death to be sure.
It was the danse macabre in motion as the Prime Minister fired, reshuffled the pack and sought desperately to engage the living, whom she hopes will save her, the United National Congress and the Congress of the People (the latter now existing in a comatose state) from the wrath of the electorate taken for a ride by the People’s Partnership of 2010.
This tragi-comedy has all of the ingredients which exist in the DNA of the diseased political culture: corruption, nepotism, political skullduggery, messianic worship of leaders, riotous comedy, the dismantling of institutions, the cabinet being the foremost of those, the playing of the race game, naked electioneering, all taking precedence over sound judgment in a Prime Minister seeking to bring quality governance to a country.
In 2010, Manning and the PNM were overtaken by the diseased politics of messianic leadership; Manning’s attempts to return in 2015 without redemption, without holy water poured on him, is confirmation of the political “malcadee” that afflicts the polity of T&T.
Now in government, a body which better facilitates the opportunities for the cancer to spread to the economy, the polity, into law-making and in the social, cultural and ethnic relations of the society, the politics of the UNC and the COP is threatening to contaminate the society.
The evidence of the claim of corrupted political culture was displayed in the Prime Minister’s statement. Forced at last, as in the instance of Jack Warner, to relieve the country of Ramlogan, she went as far as she could to protect her chosen one; the one she was warned against but considered his political loyalty to be a more important disposition to all other considerations, said David Abdulah.
She could barely utter a word of criticism against Ramlogan, who it must not be forgotten, is at the centre of the bacchanal. Instead she sought to transfer blame to Griffith and Rowley for not bringing matters to her attention but left out her Attorney General even though he had every opportunity and responsibility to inform her of David West’s witness statement.
She saved some of her severest criticism for West, who dared to accuse the chosen one. And typical of the political blame game that is politics in T&T, the Prime Minister sought to make the Leader of the Opposition the chief offender: if he had only informed her before she agreed to appoint West to the PCA, all of this would have been avoided; Ramlogan would have behaved himself and she the Queen, the innocent and much-wronged party, would have scuttled it all.
A classic example of “unresponsibility” for her own constitutional duty to thoroughly scrutinise appointments to senior state positions; no different from her appointment of Reshmi; her plucking of a volatile and voluble Volney from the judiciary and several other misfits she has placed in the cabinet and elsewhere in the state sector.
Similarly, most of her choices for replacements are in the main determined by Anancy politics and an election campaign in which her UNC has to perform miracles to recapture the East-West Corridor. The new political leader of NJAC is slipped in; a lightweight attorney (Garvin Nicholas) is made attorney general; he is likely to be compliant and he could do with a little exposure if he is to contest the Diego Martin North-East seat.
Brent Sancho, the new black man, reportedly being cultivated to be handed a seat in a UNC Indo-dominated Chaguanas East. Christine Newallo-Hosein, someone brought into the politics by Warner and someone who possesses the right mixture of ethnicity and name to contest Tunapuna, forget the COP.
Oh, incidentally, she gave more sense of significance to COP leader, Prakash, more weight to indulge and delude himself of having political significance, while downgrading “Hurricane George” whose fury has fizzled.
And yes Stacy, you have to be moved out of the way as the ministry awards a lucrative contract to a friendly contractor who is expected to “run something.” Of all the new appointments made there can be justification for only one, retired Brigadier General Carl Alfonso, and that is understandable, it is one portfolio that cannot allow for any further slippage in the pre-election months ahead. One expects that the retired Brigadier will not in any way sully his outstanding service to date.
The Prime Minister’s dance of death was inevitable. She and her government have spent almost five years engaging in the most destructive politics conceivable. The present melodrama, which will only expand, is the natural culmination. The Government has effectively collapsed in office and if the previous calls for naming the election date now were provocative, they are now justified.
In the same manner as she articulated that her AG and National Security Minister cannot function, having been severely compromised, the Government is similarly compromised and therefore cannot stand.
Hyperion wrote:^^^ at least you Mike Ross was painted in a morally acceptable light (and he actually knows law). This joker had the gall to be arrogant from his very first interview the other night. Not surprised at all at the allegations levelled against him now.
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Interview can be found online?
Narrow grounds to remove West says Rowley
Published:
Thursday, February 5, 2015
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley rose to the defence of Police Complaints Authority director David West, saying the removal of the PCA head by the President is governed by Section 12 of the PCA Act and in only applicable where that person is unable or unfit to perform their duties.
“The duties of the chairman are prescribed by the Act. The question is whether the fact of the chairman being a complainant in a matter being investigated by the police renders him unable to perform his duties as opposed to a scenario where the chairman is himself the subject of an investigation as is the case with the AG,” Rowley said yesterday. “The chairman, by the fact of being a complainant, does not make him a beneficiary of the actions of the police.
“In criminal matters, the State prosecutes crime for the protection of society in general. It is therefore in the interest of society that persons must report an allegation of criminal conduct so that an independent investigation is commenced for the benefit of the State,” he added.
Rowley, a geologist, said: “The fact that he is a witness is of no benefit to the office of chairman of the PCA. There is therefore no conflict of interest between a chairman who complains of a crime and a chairman whose job it is to monitor the impartiality of a police investigation. “In any event, if there is a perception of a conflict in a particular matter, the proper and normal course is recusal from any judgment in the particular matter, as has been the norm.
“The illogic of an infuriated Prime Minister, who felt she was denied the opportunity to browbeat and cover up certain wrong doing is also a message to all, especially public servants who are witness to Government wrongdoing, that they should keep quiet or face the wrath of the Prime Minister and Government.”
On whether Carmona can in fact remove West from office as called for by Persad-Bissessar, Rowley said:
“The power of the President is limited to judging whether the chairman is unable to perform his functions as chairman of the PCA. The words ‘unable’ refers to inability to do the job as chairman of the PCA, not the inability to oversee a particular investigation. “The opposite is true of the AG. He wasn’t a witness. He’s the object of the investigation which is criminal in nature and therefore may suffer personal consequences if found guilty, which would have prevented him from holding public office.”
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02- ... ays-rowley
UML wrote:you scratch mine and i will scratch yoursNarrow grounds to remove West says Rowley
Published:
Thursday, February 5, 2015
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley rose to the defence of Police Complaints Authority director David West, saying the removal of the PCA head by the President is governed by Section 12 of the PCA Act and in only applicable where that person is unable or unfit to perform their duties.
“The duties of the chairman are prescribed by the Act. The question is whether the fact of the chairman being a complainant in a matter being investigated by the police renders him unable to perform his duties as opposed to a scenario where the chairman is himself the subject of an investigation as is the case with the AG,” Rowley said yesterday. “The chairman, by the fact of being a complainant, does not make him a beneficiary of the actions of the police.
“In criminal matters, the State prosecutes crime for the protection of society in general. It is therefore in the interest of society that persons must report an allegation of criminal conduct so that an independent investigation is commenced for the benefit of the State,” he added.
Rowley, a geologist, said: “The fact that he is a witness is of no benefit to the office of chairman of the PCA. There is therefore no conflict of interest between a chairman who complains of a crime and a chairman whose job it is to monitor the impartiality of a police investigation. “In any event, if there is a perception of a conflict in a particular matter, the proper and normal course is recusal from any judgment in the particular matter, as has been the norm.
“The illogic of an infuriated Prime Minister, who felt she was denied the opportunity to browbeat and cover up certain wrong doing is also a message to all, especially public servants who are witness to Government wrongdoing, that they should keep quiet or face the wrath of the Prime Minister and Government.”
On whether Carmona can in fact remove West from office as called for by Persad-Bissessar, Rowley said:
“The power of the President is limited to judging whether the chairman is unable to perform his functions as chairman of the PCA. The words ‘unable’ refers to inability to do the job as chairman of the PCA, not the inability to oversee a particular investigation. “The opposite is true of the AG. He wasn’t a witness. He’s the object of the investigation which is criminal in nature and therefore may suffer personal consequences if found guilty, which would have prevented him from holding public office.”
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02- ... ays-rowley
...imagine a geologist giving legal advice
Habit7 wrote:Dude, next to Patrick Manning, he is one of the longest serving members of our legislature (the arm of the government that makes law). He is more than suitable to comment.
toyota2nr wrote:UML wrote:you scratch mine and i will scratch yoursNarrow grounds to remove West says Rowley
Published:
Thursday, February 5, 2015
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley rose to the defence of Police Complaints Authority director David West, saying the removal of the PCA head by the President is governed by Section 12 of the PCA Act and in only applicable where that person is unable or unfit to perform their duties.
“The duties of the chairman are prescribed by the Act. The question is whether the fact of the chairman being a complainant in a matter being investigated by the police renders him unable to perform his duties as opposed to a scenario where the chairman is himself the subject of an investigation as is the case with the AG,” Rowley said yesterday. “The chairman, by the fact of being a complainant, does not make him a beneficiary of the actions of the police.
“In criminal matters, the State prosecutes crime for the protection of society in general. It is therefore in the interest of society that persons must report an allegation of criminal conduct so that an independent investigation is commenced for the benefit of the State,” he added.
Rowley, a geologist, said: “The fact that he is a witness is of no benefit to the office of chairman of the PCA. There is therefore no conflict of interest between a chairman who complains of a crime and a chairman whose job it is to monitor the impartiality of a police investigation. “In any event, if there is a perception of a conflict in a particular matter, the proper and normal course is recusal from any judgment in the particular matter, as has been the norm.
“The illogic of an infuriated Prime Minister, who felt she was denied the opportunity to browbeat and cover up certain wrong doing is also a message to all, especially public servants who are witness to Government wrongdoing, that they should keep quiet or face the wrath of the Prime Minister and Government.”
On whether Carmona can in fact remove West from office as called for by Persad-Bissessar, Rowley said:
“The power of the President is limited to judging whether the chairman is unable to perform his functions as chairman of the PCA. The words ‘unable’ refers to inability to do the job as chairman of the PCA, not the inability to oversee a particular investigation. “The opposite is true of the AG. He wasn’t a witness. He’s the object of the investigation which is criminal in nature and therefore may suffer personal consequences if found guilty, which would have prevented him from holding public office.”
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02- ... ays-rowley
...imagine a geologist giving legal advice
And people taking that hook line and sinker. Up to now he cannot come clean with the allegation of collusion between him and DW. This is the individual people want for PM? I shudder for the future.
UML wrote:you scratch mine and i will scratch yoursNarrow grounds to remove West says Rowley
Published:
Thursday, February 5, 2015
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley rose to the defence of Police Complaints Authority director David West, saying the removal of the PCA head by the President is governed by Section 12 of the PCA Act and in only applicable where that person is unable or unfit to perform their duties.
“The duties of the chairman are prescribed by the Act. The question is whether the fact of the chairman being a complainant in a matter being investigated by the police renders him unable to perform his duties as opposed to a scenario where the chairman is himself the subject of an investigation as is the case with the AG,” Rowley said yesterday. “The chairman, by the fact of being a complainant, does not make him a beneficiary of the actions of the police.
“In criminal matters, the State prosecutes crime for the protection of society in general. It is therefore in the interest of society that persons must report an allegation of criminal conduct so that an independent investigation is commenced for the benefit of the State,” he added.
Rowley, a geologist, said: “The fact that he is a witness is of no benefit to the office of chairman of the PCA. There is therefore no conflict of interest between a chairman who complains of a crime and a chairman whose job it is to monitor the impartiality of a police investigation. “In any event, if there is a perception of a conflict in a particular matter, the proper and normal course is recusal from any judgment in the particular matter, as has been the norm.
“The illogic of an infuriated Prime Minister, who felt she was denied the opportunity to browbeat and cover up certain wrong doing is also a message to all, especially public servants who are witness to Government wrongdoing, that they should keep quiet or face the wrath of the Prime Minister and Government.”
On whether Carmona can in fact remove West from office as called for by Persad-Bissessar, Rowley said:
“The power of the President is limited to judging whether the chairman is unable to perform his functions as chairman of the PCA. The words ‘unable’ refers to inability to do the job as chairman of the PCA, not the inability to oversee a particular investigation. “The opposite is true of the AG. He wasn’t a witness. He’s the object of the investigation which is criminal in nature and therefore may suffer personal consequences if found guilty, which would have prevented him from holding public office.”
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02- ... ays-rowley
...imagine a geologist giving legal advice
UML wrote:toyota2nr wrote:UML wrote:you scratch mine and i will scratch yoursNarrow grounds to remove West says Rowley
Published:
Thursday, February 5, 2015
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley rose to the defence of Police Complaints Authority director David West, saying the removal of the PCA head by the President is governed by Section 12 of the PCA Act and in only applicable where that person is unable or unfit to perform their duties.
“The duties of the chairman are prescribed by the Act. The question is whether the fact of the chairman being a complainant in a matter being investigated by the police renders him unable to perform his duties as opposed to a scenario where the chairman is himself the subject of an investigation as is the case with the AG,” Rowley said yesterday. “The chairman, by the fact of being a complainant, does not make him a beneficiary of the actions of the police.
“In criminal matters, the State prosecutes crime for the protection of society in general. It is therefore in the interest of society that persons must report an allegation of criminal conduct so that an independent investigation is commenced for the benefit of the State,” he added.
Rowley, a geologist, said: “The fact that he is a witness is of no benefit to the office of chairman of the PCA. There is therefore no conflict of interest between a chairman who complains of a crime and a chairman whose job it is to monitor the impartiality of a police investigation. “In any event, if there is a perception of a conflict in a particular matter, the proper and normal course is recusal from any judgment in the particular matter, as has been the norm.
“The illogic of an infuriated Prime Minister, who felt she was denied the opportunity to browbeat and cover up certain wrong doing is also a message to all, especially public servants who are witness to Government wrongdoing, that they should keep quiet or face the wrath of the Prime Minister and Government.”
On whether Carmona can in fact remove West from office as called for by Persad-Bissessar, Rowley said:
“The power of the President is limited to judging whether the chairman is unable to perform his functions as chairman of the PCA. The words ‘unable’ refers to inability to do the job as chairman of the PCA, not the inability to oversee a particular investigation. “The opposite is true of the AG. He wasn’t a witness. He’s the object of the investigation which is criminal in nature and therefore may suffer personal consequences if found guilty, which would have prevented him from holding public office.”
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02- ... ays-rowley
...imagine a geologist giving legal advice
And people taking that hook line and sinker. Up to now he cannot come clean with the allegation of collusion between him and DW. This is the individual people want for PM? I shudder for the future.
man come to the defense of a real lawyer
afteralll West fraid to face the media...he never comments and never answers his phone
orangefox wrote:UML wrote:you scratch mine and i will scratch yoursNarrow grounds to remove West says Rowley
Published:
Thursday, February 5, 2015
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley rose to the defence of Police Complaints Authority director David West, saying the removal of the PCA head by the President is governed by Section 12 of the PCA Act and in only applicable where that person is unable or unfit to perform their duties.
“The duties of the chairman are prescribed by the Act. The question is whether the fact of the chairman being a complainant in a matter being investigated by the police renders him unable to perform his duties as opposed to a scenario where the chairman is himself the subject of an investigation as is the case with the AG,” Rowley said yesterday. “The chairman, by the fact of being a complainant, does not make him a beneficiary of the actions of the police.
“In criminal matters, the State prosecutes crime for the protection of society in general. It is therefore in the interest of society that persons must report an allegation of criminal conduct so that an independent investigation is commenced for the benefit of the State,” he added.
Rowley, a geologist, said: “The fact that he is a witness is of no benefit to the office of chairman of the PCA. There is therefore no conflict of interest between a chairman who complains of a crime and a chairman whose job it is to monitor the impartiality of a police investigation. “In any event, if there is a perception of a conflict in a particular matter, the proper and normal course is recusal from any judgment in the particular matter, as has been the norm.
“The illogic of an infuriated Prime Minister, who felt she was denied the opportunity to browbeat and cover up certain wrong doing is also a message to all, especially public servants who are witness to Government wrongdoing, that they should keep quiet or face the wrath of the Prime Minister and Government.”
On whether Carmona can in fact remove West from office as called for by Persad-Bissessar, Rowley said:
“The power of the President is limited to judging whether the chairman is unable to perform his functions as chairman of the PCA. The words ‘unable’ refers to inability to do the job as chairman of the PCA, not the inability to oversee a particular investigation. “The opposite is true of the AG. He wasn’t a witness. He’s the object of the investigation which is criminal in nature and therefore may suffer personal consequences if found guilty, which would have prevented him from holding public office.”
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02- ... ays-rowley
...imagine a geologist giving legal advice
Rolwey is the Oppostion Leader.
He has a battalion of attorneys from whom he seeks advice
His wife is also an attorney with Messrs. Martin Daly & Co.
He is our next PM
..imagine a geologist giving legal advice
UML wrote:Habit7 wrote:Dude, next to Patrick Manning, he is one of the longest serving members of our legislature (the arm of the government that makes law). He is more than suitable to comment.
he is a member...he doesnt make the law moreso know about law. Just now you go say he is an engineer too cause he does plan and never build highway
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