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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby ~Vēġó~ » September 9th, 2013, 10:25 am

I think that I am not affected....

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby rocknrolla » September 9th, 2013, 10:40 am

AllTrac wrote:rocknrolla, dat aint no joke thing, you looking for a ban orrrr? men would quickly see your post and start sending out fb updates, whatsapp and bbm, people gonna panic. Doh do dem thing.


i hear yuh pal. but excuse me if i not used to anyone on tuner taking anything.. anything at all.. seriously.

this is a first... interesting.

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby pioneer » September 9th, 2013, 10:52 am

I say ban him

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby bluesteel29 » September 9th, 2013, 11:05 am

knows the secrets of the universe n still has to deal with traffic ftl

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby AllTrac » September 9th, 2013, 11:13 am

bluesteel29 wrote:knows the secrets of the universe n still has to deal with traffic ftl


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby rocknrolla » September 9th, 2013, 11:14 am

pioneer wrote:I say ban him


it is uncharacteristic of u to express such 'beet up'. lol whatever happened to 'is unaffected'?

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby pioneer » September 9th, 2013, 11:32 am

Nah I jus wha see how u go control tuner admin with your various powers to unban yourself

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby rocknrolla » September 9th, 2013, 11:36 am

well to see that i would first have to be interested in unbanning myself.

got banned twice already 2 weeks each.. 'is unaffected' lols

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby joker » September 9th, 2013, 11:57 am

So rocknrolla..u feel u could use ur powers to stop global warming and make ppl invisible or tell we some numbers for the US lottery....if not mods ban im....and let him do he.work for nasa....

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby rocknrolla » September 9th, 2013, 12:14 pm

well about the lotto.. just saying.. if i win it is NOT because i peered into a future lotto draw. even if i win more than once.. just saying.. lol

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby crazybalhead » September 9th, 2013, 12:18 pm

AllTrac wrote:
bluesteel29 wrote:knows the secrets of the universe n still has to deal with traffic ftl


:lol: :lol: :lol:


OOommmmmmm...

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby speedist » September 9th, 2013, 2:05 pm

D faq? Ched successfuly derailed.

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby wagonrunner » September 9th, 2013, 2:44 pm

post should be removed. user too

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby SR » September 9th, 2013, 2:52 pm

Very tempted

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby K74T » September 9th, 2013, 3:12 pm

Gee him

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby pioneer » September 9th, 2013, 3:17 pm

Whaz de outcome?

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby Morpheus » October 2nd, 2013, 7:06 am

SHOT FROM BEHIND......

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Aaaand the plot thickens.....

JOSTISS

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby Habit7 » October 2nd, 2013, 7:33 am

SHOT FROM BEHIND
Autopsy reveals one fatal bullet to the back

By Sheila Rampersad Special to the Express
Story Created: Oct 2, 2013 at 1:13 AM ECT
Story Updated: Oct 2, 2013 at 1:13 AM ECT
Twenty-five-year-old Beetham resident Christopher Greaves took three bullets from behind—one of which killed him—according to an autopsy report dated September 3, 2013, obtained by the Express.
And according to a police report also obtained by the Express, the bullets came from the guns of a police constable and a police corporal who were on mobile patrol on Main Street, Beetham Estate, on Sunday, September 1. They were accompanied by a police inspector who did not fire any shot.
The corporal fired one round from his Galil.
The police constable, however, who was also driving the police vehicle, fired a total of 18 shots, one of which killed Greaves.
All three officers are from the Inter-Agency Task Force.
Greaves’s death set off tensions in the Beetham community just east of Port of Spain and resulted in a clash between residents and police officers that lasted three days.
During that time, police lobbed tear gas canisters and fired their weapons in the air to control enraged residents. Residents blocked the Prio­rity Bus Route and the Churchill-Roosevelt Highway with burning debris, stalling traffic for hours. They hurled missiles at police and vehicles travelling along the highway; two children who were in passing vehicles were injured and treated at hospital.
In his autopsy report, forensic pathologist Dr Hughvon des Vignes identified three bullet wounds in Greaves’s body. The fatal shot entered Greaves’s upper left back and exited the front of his upper left chest. This has been identified as the official cause of death.
“The bullet path is slightly from right to left (outward), from back to front and slightly from top to bottom (downward),” des Vignes stated in his report.
Another bullet hit Greaves on the back of his right forearm, just below the elbow. That bullet’s trajectory is also “back to front (forward) and slightly from top to bottom (downward)” and exited the front of the right forearm, according to the report.
The third bullet also struck the right upper forearm below the elbow. That bullet broke Greaves’s lower right humerus (bone that runs from the shoulder to the elbow).
The autopsy on Greaves was performed at the Forensic Science Centre two days after he was killed. Greaves was shot shortly before 4.20 p.m. He was taken to the Port of Spain General Hospital in the tray of a police pick-up; he was pronounced dead at the hospital sometime after 6 p.m.
The police account of the circumstances of Greaves’s death is contained in a police report. The police report is comprised of statements from the three officers who were on the scene. All the statements are dated September 6, 2013. The report states the officers were travelling east along Main Street, between Second and Third streets, when the police constable who fired the fatal shot saw Greaves walking west with his dead down.
Greaves reportedly raised his head and the constable stated that he (Greaves) had a “shocked and startled reaction”.
“I noticed a bulge on his left side,” he stated. “He quickly reached for the bulge with both hands lifting his T-shirt with his left hand and I saw the butt of a pistol with a magazine fitted which he grabbed with his right hand...”
The constable, while driving, raised his MP5 (a 9mm, German-made submachine gun). Police stated that Greaves ran east on Main Street and then south on Third Street.
The police vehicle pursued him. Now abreast of Greaves, police say Greaves turned his body with the weapon pointing in the direction of the police vehicle.
The constable, still driving, fired a burst. The police corporal also fired, but only one round from his Galil. The corporal stated that at this point, Greaves’s gun fell from his hands.
The police vehicle hit a brick wall; the constable issued a second burst of fire from his MP5.
The police inspector exi­ted the police vehicle and picked up the gun that had fallen from Greaves’s hand.
Greaves, according to police, continued running despite being shot three times. Officers said they found Greaves lying on his back along a track that connects Third and Fourth streets.
By this time, police say, angry residents had started to congregate and the officers called for back-up.
The police report, however, does not establish what is referred to as a chain-of-custody for the gun that police say Greaves had in the waist of his trousers. There is no account of what happened to the gun after the inspector retrieved it off the ground at Third Street, Beetham Gardens; where it was lodged and in whose possession. It states only that the gun was passed to a police officer at IATF headquarters when the inspector returned to base. No time is recorded in the police report.
There is no statement from the officer who received and packaged the gun at IATF headquarters.
Assistant Superintendent of Police Sagramsingh is leading the investigation into the police killing.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/SHO ... 85241.html


JOSTISS

18 shots at a Beetham resident by the police means 18 car glass on the highway must get smashed.

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby Morpheus » October 2nd, 2013, 7:39 am

Can't understand how Greaves turned his body toward the vehicle with his weapon pointing, police fired, yet autopsy showing he pick up 3 from behind.

*pulls out calculator

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby Habit7 » October 2nd, 2013, 7:44 am

Greaves had to be the Gundelero himself if he saw three officers in a vehicle with semi-automatics and thought, "if I display my concealed weapon and run, maybe they might forget about it"...

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby Redman » October 2nd, 2013, 7:59 am

i want to know-
Why were the TTPS reports taken 5 days after the incident???

The chain of evidence is broken wrt the weapon-so no conviction-just like the TTPS that lick down the family in Beetham.
No conviction with tainted evidence

So WHICH GUNMAN CARRIES HIS GUN CROSS DRAW????

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby eyeballz » October 2nd, 2013, 11:41 am

where de ppl who were vindicating the police action?

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby pioneer » October 2nd, 2013, 11:45 am

LOL@ express sauce

They are just as credible as speak out T&T

Will wait on the newsday report.

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby rollingstock » October 2nd, 2013, 1:01 pm

Extremely credible. The Use of Force Police for the police service allows the shooting of a person in the back under certain condition.

As i always say, officers have seconds to react and everyone else has all the time in the world to nitpick their actions. The fact is if the ass wasn't walking in the road with a firearm in his waist he wouldn't have died.

I was just there at the time, i also know those officers, they are retired officers just there to collect a small salary to augment their pension, none of the persons in the Beetham feel threatened by them and they harrass no one, so for THEM to be involved in a situation like this lends credibility to any story they say.

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby pioneer » October 2nd, 2013, 1:05 pm

Nah talknah society expects de police to kindly ask the gunman to turn back around, and inquire as to which part of his anatomy he would like to be shot, how many shots and which weapon he would prefer.

And if he has a hospital of choice and a number for his next of kin.

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby Dizzy28 » October 2nd, 2013, 1:18 pm

pioneer wrote:Nah talknah society expects de police to kindly ask the gunman to turn back around, and inquire as to which part of his anatomy he would like to be shot, how many shots and which weapon he would prefer.

And if he has a hospital of choice and a number for his next of kin.


ROFL!!!!!!!

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby RASC » October 2nd, 2013, 1:30 pm

pioneer wrote:Nah talknah society expects de police to kindly ask the gunman to turn back around, and inquire as to which part of his anatomy he would like to be shot, how many shots and which weapon he would prefer.

And if he has a hospital of choice and a number for his next of kin.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby eyeballz » October 2nd, 2013, 1:39 pm

Yeah but whey de gun?

those circumstances Stock, wouldn't be if the man is ah present threat to the public? as in he shooting ppl right now or running to shoot someone and not in this case running from the law?

it's funny how it's ok for the police to break the law to uphold it (providing the gun exsists)

RS them men looking for extra cash as you say. wonder what they would and wouldn't do for payday

a good friend of mine (from school) who's attached to central division task force once told me "after god is the police"

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby wagonrunner » October 2nd, 2013, 2:12 pm

Police constable is a boss.
driving vehicle, offload 18 rounds, and crash into a wall.

Stallone eh contact him to be in expendables 3 yet?

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Re: Tyres burning on Beetham Highway eastbound???

Postby rollingstock » October 2nd, 2013, 2:22 pm

eyeballz wrote:Yeah but whey de gun?

those circumstances Stock, wouldn't be if the man is ah present threat to the public? as in he shooting ppl right now or running to shoot someone and not in this case running from the law?

it's funny how it's ok for the police to break the law to uphold it (providing the gun exsists)

RS them men looking for extra cash as you say. wonder what they would and wouldn't do for payday

a good friend of mine (from school) who's attached to central division task force once told me "after god is the police"


It is understood in law that once you have an illegal firearm concealed on your person, if for any reason you take that firearm out (you don't have to point it at someone) it is possession to endanger life.

Do you wait for someone to shoot and hope they miss and then return fire? No one knows his intent.

The officers i mentioned especially the Insp. have an unblemished record hence their allowance to return, if you're thinking something nefarious I would think not.

I have so much information relative to this, i was in the Beetham during this and i am sure why he came out with a firearm, most likely he didn't expect to run into those officers and panicked.

So much i can say but this matter is/will be sub-judice and i may have said too much already.

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