Study finds Trinis spend avg one month each year in traffic

[paid_influencer]

is 10k or more additional cars on the roads every 4-6 months too eh

more and more people driving everyday

sustainable indefinitely imo

[pugboy]

how many are actual new drivers on the roads?

how many new licenses every month and how many of those persons effectively becoming daily additions to the road?

many big cities now have traffic that is pretty unbearable and no change in sight

[paid_influencer]

sando has no traffic nowadays pnm has the solution just close down half the business places and industry

[dogg]

ministry of works

TMB AT WORK FOR YOU!
No More Wasted Green Time at Our Traffic Signals!!!
The Traffic Management Branch (TMB) recently installed Video Detection Systems at seven major intersections along the nation’s Highways.
This new and innovative system will prioritize green time for waiting vehicles, which results in the efficient movement of traffic along the major intersections. You no longer have to wait at the traffic signal, while other movements are on green with no vehicles in those lanes.
Video Detection Systems were recently installed at the following intersections/traffic signals:
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/St. Augustine (UWI)
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/Pasea (Tunapuna)
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/Macoya
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/Orange Grove Road
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/Trincity
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/Golden Grove Road
•Diego Martin Highway/Four Roads
The goal of the Traffic Management Branch is to enhance public safety, reduce congestion, improve travel and transit information, and reduce detrimental environmental impacts through Intelligent Transportation Systems such as Video Detection Systems.
Remember, safety is everyone’s priority!

[Dizzy28]

^ UWI's lights are the worse of that lot. It operates on a timed system so goes through all the traffic lights combos regardless of if cars are there or not.

Hopefully this helps.

[wing]

^ UWI's lights are the worse of that lot. It operates on a timed system so goes through all the traffic lights combos regardless of if cars are there or not.

Hopefully this helps.

Awaits "who get the contract for the cameras?" and "why they only put in their stronghold areas?" also "UNC/PEP/NTA winning in 2025"

[maj. tom]

this man deading in the sun yes. Pay he triple overtime!

[pugboy]

westmoorings lights have that long time

[redmanjp]

ministry of works

TMB AT WORK FOR YOU!
No More Wasted Green Time at Our Traffic Signals!!!
The Traffic Management Branch (TMB) recently installed Video Detection Systems at seven major intersections along the nation’s Highways.
This new and innovative system will prioritize green time for waiting vehicles, which results in the efficient movement of traffic along the major intersections. You no longer have to wait at the traffic signal, while other movements are on green with no vehicles in those lanes.
Video Detection Systems were recently installed at the following intersections/traffic signals:
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/St. Augustine (UWI)
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/Pasea (Tunapuna)
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/Macoya
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/Orange Grove Road
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/Trincity
•Churchill Roosevelt Highway/Golden Grove Road
•Diego Martin Highway/Four Roads
The goal of the Traffic Management Branch is to enhance public safety, reduce congestion, improve travel and transit information, and reduce detrimental environmental impacts through Intelligent Transportation Systems such as Video Detection Systems.
Remember, safety is everyone’s priority!

so all this time it didnt have sensors? no wonder i getting red light 3/4 of d time while on the major road

but does this video detection system depend on someone remotely changing the light or is it automatic?

[maj. tom]

You really expect somebody to sit down whole day watching the traffic and press a button to turn the light red or green?

[pugboy]

so how the other ones with sensors does work? like the lights by movietowne westmoorings etc ?
or is this some first of its kind in the world?

[maj. tom]

A very complex computer program and using video lane detection rather than the old timed magnetic sensor strips buried in the ground at the stop line. It's not the first kind in the world, it's just now installed at those 7 places. Nobody sitting down at a monitor and doing this manually, humans cannot calculate and perform tasks like that.

Only thing is if there is a breakdown, glitch or hacking well that's the country gridlocked there.



https://www.iteris.com/blog/detection-algorithm-improvements-enhanced-traffic-flow-and-safety-part-1-vehicle-detection

[pugboy]

so these new lights will be better than the older sensor driven lights?
will drivers notice a difference?

[maj. tom]

Really don't know. It's supposed to be smarter and cloud-driven real time processing power to combine all that data from various points to keep traffic flowing with fewer delays. At rush hour here.... nah I highly doubt the driver seeing or feeling a difference because the volume of flow from every direction is overwhelming. The program would probably make calculations like the older magnetic sensor microprocessors in the traffic lights for that. But outside rush hour drivers could really notice a difference in flow especially when congestion is absent in the opposite crossing lane. It can make a decision to hold that line longer, and when it changes to green hold the green for a shorter period but also doing that calculation based on observation of flow 2 km up the road at the next five data points.

The system they're using is Miovision.
https://youtu.be/r9bEn_WveYQ?&t=340

You know what are phantom traffic jams? Traffic caused by nothing except cars slowing down on a clear road and it ends up piling up like dominos 3 and 4 km behind. But you crawling up and when you reach the supposed jam area, the road clear! It have nothing in front you. This could probably change things like that with smart flow and delays.

It could end up being a statistically significant difference over a long time.
Cumulatively over a month we may save a few minutes at each light maybe.

[pugboy]

Yuh giving long explanation
Supposed to just say it is ai driven

[paid_influencer]

^ UWI's lights are the worse of that lot. It operates on a timed system so goes through all the traffic lights combos regardless of if cars are there or not.

Hopefully this helps.

Awaits "who get the contract for the cameras?" and "why they only put in their stronghold areas?" also "UNC/PEP/NTA winning in 2025"

we will win tho

[88sins]

^ UWI's lights are the worse of that lot. It operates on a timed system so goes through all the traffic lights combos regardless of if cars are there or not.

Hopefully this helps.

If we talking worst traffic light, the one at the corner of New and Charlotte Street POS takes the win hands down.
Charlotte Street light does be green for a whole 3 minutes, but New Street light does turn green for a whole 30 seconds.

[SLVR1]

They need to start charging all the drivers who block main roads to run into shops etc. as it causes traffic and too much squeezing to get thru. iirc sidewalk parking incurs a fine and also obstructing. There are side streets they can use but too lazy to walk.

[maj. tom]

However downsides of being so reliant on this level of tech though in a place where maintenance of roads and existing equipment is already a corruption laden logistics problem.

The ISP gone down and internet eh working. Current cut off. Hacker take the system for ransomware. Rain water get in and spoil the electronics. The heat burn out a capacitor. Truck crash into the pole. Just one thing can cause a cascading failure of chaos.

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/sinanan-optimistic-new-system-will-ease-traffic-congestion-6.2.1952717.1a64c1bbae
Speaking with reporters at the launch of the monitoring system at the traffic intersection of the Churchill-Roosevelt Highway and BWIA Boulevard, Piarco, yesterday morning, Sinanan explained the new system was one of several initiatives aimed at reducing congestion.

Referring to situations where drivers felt uncomfortable stopping at certain junctions in dangerous areas at late hours, Sinanan said the new system would allow drivers to continue driving once there was no traffic on intersecting roads.

“There are some areas that we feel if I’m coming there 2 o’clock in the morning, I’m not going to stop on that traffic light to wait for that traffic light to change because there’s nobody around, this will eliminate all of those problems.

“Those cameras you see up there, those are 360-degree cameras. In real time they monitor the traffic and if there is no traffic going from west to north, the lights there will not go to red, this allows traffic to flow wherever there is a flow required,” Sinanan explained.

He added that the monitoring system from the cameras would also improve the response time for authorities during an emergency by having more continuous surveillance at intersections.

“Sometimes we have an accident at an intersection, and it takes a while for us to know what’s going on, this system we can monitor that, and we can immediately inform the police and say, ‘Look an accident just happened’ so we can send whoever is required to ensure a quick flow of traffic,” the minister added.

While previous traffic light systems were underground and often difficult to access for maintenance and repairs, Sinanan said the current arrangement would be above-ground and increase convenience for technicians.

He said the monitoring system is in place at eight intersections with plans underway for it to be installed at 14 intersections within the next few weeks.

Another traffic reduction initiative outlined by the Ministry of Works and Transport Sinanan said included an upgrade of the fleet of vehicles and efficiencies of the Public Transport Service Corporation.

[pugboy]

ent
who responsible for maintenance when these things go down?

[Habit7]

ent
who responsible for maintenance when these things go down?

The same contractor who is maintaining the traffic light themselves.

[Supra GT-FOUR]

They didn't need all this video monitoring bells and whistles. Simple additional sensors and modification to PLC control logic code would have resulted in the same. For years I speculated why this wasn't done.
Software = licenses (recurring cost)
Does software need persistent network connection (cost)
Network connection down, how does it affect system (is it a total shutdown)

[maj. tom]

For internet backup Starlink could be useful here. Each node location could be a registered Starlink address. But the cost of doing that and using it just as a backup would be too much.

[pugboy]

this contractor running the video monitoring operations room ?
staffing with plenty video wall screens ?

of course we hear the stuck record that this tech will be used for crime fighting

ent
who responsible for maintenance when these things go down?

The same contractor who is maintaining the traffic light themselves.

[Habit7]

this contractor running the video monitoring operations room ?
staffing with plenty video wall screens ?

of course we hear the stuck record that this tech will be used for crime fighting

ent
who responsible for maintenance when these things go down?

The same contractor who is maintaining the traffic light themselves.

I think you crossing wires. The traffic management will be automated with video sensors rather than ground strips which required more maintenance. Being automated there is no additional daily staff requirement.

The video monitoring already existed with previous video feeds. This is an additional video feed. You don’t need new rooms, with a press of a button the feed will change on the same screens.

[pugboy]

i only read this morning
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 40479.html

it says a 24/7 caroni traffic enforcement centre

which you can see gives impression can be used for crime fighting
but either way cameras on the roads are useless for our application since every single crime is committed with a car using false plates
which they stop and change during getaway

[Chimera]

i only read this morning
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 40479.html

it says a 24/7 caroni traffic enforcement centre

which you can see gives impression can be used for crime fighting
but either way cameras on the roads are useless for our application since every single crime is committed with a car using false plates
which they stop and change during getaway

nah man yuh cant say it useless
with the sheer volume of cameras they installing and it looking like all intersections and crossroads....real time tracking
they can follow a vehicle and intercept with a proper command center whether they change plates or not.

lets see how it goes

[pugboy]

instead of spending 100s of millions
better to just cover the places these pests run back to….
a fraction of money will be spent
and well we know they refusing to revamp license plate system so fake plates will continue to be made by every corner shop

[Habit7]

i only read this morning
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 40479.html

it says a 24/7 caroni traffic enforcement centre

which you can see gives impression can be used for crime fighting
but either way cameras on the roads are useless for our application since every single crime is committed with a car using false plates
which they stop and change during getaway

You asked who is responsible for maintenance. Your article shows it is Signal Specialists Ltd, the contractor.

The traffic management centre is not new, it existed prior using MoNS cameras, then it got its own and now more. According to the Minister they don’t deal with crime fighting, only traffic management.

“Asked how many cameras were currently working within the network, Works and Transport Minister Rohan Sinanan said, “I don’t want to speak for national security. What I can tell you is that they have offered to allow us a link to several cameras. I don’t know how much that will be and I don’t know how many cameras they have working or how many cameras they don’t have working. That is a national security matter which I will stay away from but it doesn’t hinder operations because, as we get access to the cameras, we just bring them onto the system.”
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/more-ca ... c00666ee0#

[pugboy]

lol
rohan distance himself one time from heinz portfolio