Bars, Clubs & Sit-Down Restaurants banned until May 10th 2020

[elec2020]

Lawyers would be able to answer this... but can the government legally change regulations without allowing for some level of public discourse? Not like they gah listen to you anyway... but in a democracy people should at least have a forum and reasonable time to cite their views on a piece of regulation or ammendments to it before they are passed... or am i wrong

[redmanjp]

in a declared health emergency (not SOE) i suppose they can do that without consultation as that can take days or weeks while this virus can spread very fast so they have to act fast.

just imagine for instance they had to consult about closing borders- meanwhile many ppl from affected regions coming in every single day, and hour while dat going on and each one creating their own pyramid of infection.

[assassin]

The framework of the existing, ancient, Health Ordinance was amended for most of the restrictions. This can be done with the signature of the Minister of Health

I am not sure that public consultation is a mandatory requirement for any legislation

[elec2020]

^^ fair enough... on paper it makes sense for a government void of corruption... but so far... the government has done exactly as anticipated with these newfound powers... implement them to benefit them and their financers and change them (where applicable) if they violate any private citizen rights to squash any room for legal remit

[pugboy]

Dat was after another idiot occifer did to sauce

It easy to get around the rules though. All them liquor marts hadda do is start to sell bread and snacks and phonecard...and they're now a mini mart.

yup. it was a stupid measure to start with. People could buy drinks and water, but if it have alcohol in that water then suddenly it is a COVID19 health issue and will cost lives, etc.

The only reason it is in the regulation is because a police occifer thought the regulation was against the sale of alcohol, and locked up a liquor mart owner. The administration, rather than admit the mistake, doubled down and added it to the regulation.

[elec2020]

The framework of the existing, ancient, Health Ordinance was amended for most of the restrictions. This can be done with the signature of the Minister of Health

I am not sure that public consultation is a mandatory requirement for any legislation

To mind they did so for the marijuana and ammendments to severak acts like the freedom of information and non profit organizations acts mid last year... so idk if that is custom... or not... since the bahbal Kamla and them tried with section 34

[MaxPower]

There are many many people who are too old to cook. My uncle lives alone, he had a stroke over a year ago. There's a wonderful business that he subscribes too that drops off healthy meals for him daily.

They tried and lobbied to stay open, but they were told no exceptions, unless it was bakery items (weird AF).

So right now, different family members have to drop food for him everyday. People asking why so much ppl on the road? This is f*cking why, when leaders make stupid counter productive decisions that ultimately lead to no change but more suffering.

DPD,

I am sorry to hear about your uncle.

I cannot disagree with your comments.

The government has to be cognizant in their decisions especially for the elderly and disabled.

[ruffneck_12]

nah doh trivialize dis man. drinking alone is a depressing thing

plenty people lossing they livelihood and reading the news on trinituner. 4 months of no income while other people dollar safe

Needing friends to have a good time even more depressing


Trini's need to learn to be by themselves sometimes.

[supercharged turbo]

What is allyuh predictions when bars and restaurants come back into operation wrt prices and time?

Lets say the government give bars and restaurants 4 days to open and a certain time period to sell within,do you think the prices going up to compensate for the lost revenue or they should just be grateful to still be getting some days rather than none?

[Dohplaydat]

What is allyuh predictions when bars and restaurants come back into operation wrt prices and time?

Lets say the government give bars and restaurants 4 days to open and a certain time period to sell within,do you think the prices going up to compensate for the lost revenue or they should just be grateful to still be getting some days rather than none?

Honestly no idea as it all depends on future data that hasn't arrived. If Covid cases are low all through till May 31st then maybe they may re-open in early June.

However, if cases continue to come in, probably they'll remain closed all of June and most of July.

Btw opening only 4 days a week or limiting hours is exactly what you want to avoid, creating crowds and rush is pointless. We need to space it out.

[elec2020]

^ the average business man wanting to recover lost profits or meet landlord rent requests may as quick as possible would raise prices... not keeping in mind that average net incomes have fallen (as individuals who took deffered loans have higher monthly payments now)... they may gain a short term boost in sales as the typical trini may spend money on goods/services that they were longing for during this restriction period... put past lets say 2/3 weeks sales would drop massively as over that period people would better know their medium or long-term job positions (heard some employers already looking to cut staff for their work at hkme actions for example)... so it is very likely prices will go up... but that would more than likely buss businesses as it is equally likely that individuals net incomes will fall or go to 0 entirely in the few weeks after restrictions are lifted... for instance with all this talk on price of peas going up... if doubles go to 6/7 dollars... yh doubles man will get good sales in the first 2/3 weeks cause people longing for a good doubles... but when the reality of their job situations settle... who can afford that 6 dollars? People will learn to live without thus bussing businesses

[paid_influencer]

what typically happens in a recession is consolidation. With less money to go around, the smaller operations shut down and get absorbed by the larger operations.

so we might see the same crowds by the doubles man, but not realize that it have less doubles men around in general.

[Gem_in_i]

Even if places open, social distancing may remain for some time.

[elec2020]

what typically happens in a recession is consolidation. With less money to go around, the smaller operations shut down and get absorbed by the larger operations.

so we might see the same crowds by the doubles man, but not realize that it have less doubles men around in general.

Oh very nice point... 100 percent agreed here

[redmanjp]

What is allyuh predictions when bars and restaurants come back into operation wrt prices and time?

Lets say the government give bars and restaurants 4 days to open and a certain time period to sell within,do you think the prices going up to compensate for the lost revenue or they should just be grateful to still be getting some days rather than none?

i doh see bars opening so soon as they were banned earlier- any very non-essential place that also has congregating i would think should not open yet- restaurant should open as it is food service but for take away/delivery etc. no dining in as that is congregating.

as for prices i eh know-won't be smart raising it when ppl out there struggling- d first week u would see a crowd because ppl miss dey kfc but it would fall off when dey realize d price and d amt of money dey have

[redmanjp]

The framework of the existing, ancient, Health Ordinance was amended for most of the restrictions. This can be done with the signature of the Minister of Health

I am not sure that public consultation is a mandatory requirement for any legislation

To mind they did so for the marijuana and ammendments to severak acts like the freedom of information and non profit organizations acts mid last year... so idk if that is custom... or not... since the bahbal Kamla and them tried with section 34

except that wasn't an emergency -this is- hundreds of ppl coming in to d country everyday, many of them could be infected

[Ted_v2]

not everybody could cook right thru, Plenty ppl out here cant cook more than a couple meals. Sometimes its easier to pickup a meal than go thru the effort to purchase, prepare and cook. Its not that healthy but everyone busy these days.

it have a two doubles man that i know of personally, that does orders on the weekend. One is organised and has stuff properly perpared, one person making doubles, one collecting change and another dropping the bag to the person. Yes its order but doubles make on the spot when u reach. Roadside pickup.

the other person however, i heard theres a huge crowd by his house, like a regular sunday morning jazz, had 30+ people there this sunday at one time.

i not against it because, these people hadda live and a one or two day job is fair enough to keep their cash flow running for the week because everybody hadda eat.

right now
massy selling chicken wings, subs ,rotisserie chicken and their usual deli lunches.
pricemart selling pizza and fry chicken, rotisserie chicken
and a few places selling fry chicken under their bakery location, i saw a place went from 27 for a two peice and fries to 30$, mad thing.

another place is 23$ for a two piece chicken alone.

[pugboy]

all them place have long lines to buy the takeout food, I had to buy a 6" sub in Adams maraval last saturday for $50
both maraval massy had extremely long lines

dont see why they also cant sell a "doubles kit" channa, bara and condiments

[Dizzy28]

all them place have long lines to buy the takeout food, I had to buy a 6" sub in Adams maraval last saturday for $50
both maraval massy had extremely long lines

dont see why they also cant sell a "doubles kit" channa, bara and condiments

There was a rant on Facebook last week by a doubles vendor in Arima protesting Hearty Foods selling of doubles kits.

But its not a bad idea and a few of the doubles vendors in the east selling them that way where you getting everything disassembled and you put it together.

[hydroep]

Southern Food Basket started offering Rotisserie chickens, and they're selling like hot bread.

Can't blame business people for capitalizing on a situation nuh. Is dem time now...

[Dave]

Try valu still sells Rotisserie chicken in the variety of finishes they normally sell.

[pugboy]

it is a nobrainer, as many have realized right on this forum doubles aint exactly rocket science to make

bara better when it sweat out and soften up a bit, likewise channa when settled and thickened better

so "not freshly made" doubles aint detrimental, besides most of them doubles vendors using bara made several hours in advance from a factory op

all them place have long lines to buy the takeout food, I had to buy a 6" sub in Adams maraval last saturday for $50
both maraval massy had extremely long lines

dont see why they also cant sell a "doubles kit" channa, bara and condiments

There was a rant on Facebook last week by a doubles vendor in Arima protesting Hearty Foods selling of doubles kits.

But its not a bad idea and a few of the doubles vendors in the east selling them that way where you getting everything disassembled and you put it together.

[Chimera]

tru value, price smart, massy, xtra foods have always sold whole rotisserie chicken

[NR8]

not everybody could cook right thru, Plenty ppl out here cant cook more than a couple meals. Sometimes its easier to pickup a meal than go thru the effort to purchase, prepare and cook. Its not that healthy but everyone busy these days.

it have a two doubles man that i know of personally, that does orders on the weekend. One is organised and has stuff properly perpared, one person making doubles, one collecting change and another dropping the bag to the person. Yes its order but doubles make on the spot when u reach. Roadside pickup.

the other person however, i heard theres a huge crowd by his house, like a regular sunday morning jazz, had 30+ people there this sunday at one time.

i not against it because, these people hadda live and a one or two day job is fair enough to keep their cash flow running for the week because everybody hadda eat.

right now
massy selling chicken wings, subs ,rotisserie chicken and their usual deli lunches.
pricemart selling pizza and fry chicken, rotisserie chicken
and a few places selling fry chicken under their bakery location, i saw a place went from 27 for a two peice and fries to 30$, mad thing.

another place is 23$ for a two piece chicken alone.

PriceSmart's fast food section was closed when I was there a couple weeks ago. La Romaine at least, dunno if all branches are.

[Dizzy28]

not everybody could cook right thru, Plenty ppl out here cant cook more than a couple meals. Sometimes its easier to pickup a meal than go thru the effort to purchase, prepare and cook. Its not that healthy but everyone busy these days.

it have a two doubles man that i know of personally, that does orders on the weekend. One is organised and has stuff properly perpared, one person making doubles, one collecting change and another dropping the bag to the person. Yes its order but doubles make on the spot when u reach. Roadside pickup.

the other person however, i heard theres a huge crowd by his house, like a regular sunday morning jazz, had 30+ people there this sunday at one time.

i not against it because, these people hadda live and a one or two day job is fair enough to keep their cash flow running for the week because everybody hadda eat.

right now
massy selling chicken wings, subs ,rotisserie chicken and their usual deli lunches.
pricemart selling pizza and fry chicken, rotisserie chicken
and a few places selling fry chicken under their bakery location, i saw a place went from 27 for a two peice and fries to 30$, mad thing.

another place is 23$ for a two piece chicken alone.

PriceSmart's fast food section was closed when I was there a couple weeks ago. La Romaine at least, dunno if all branches are.

The cafe they have is closed but they continue to sell the hot food items inside - rotissere chicken and pizzas. Not sure if they have fried chicken as well as didn't see any the one time I have been to PM since this started.

They stopped the sushi, sampling of products and the cafe at the beginning of the restrictions.

[MaxPower]

Little by little, Trinis are opening back the country on their own. They are taking these little inches here and there and being extremely cautious about it. Their fellow countrymen are even complying and working together. I like this.

Lets not forget the inevitable. That same inch allyuh taking to make ends meet, remember allyuh Trinis love to fight down eachother, somebody will want to take a mile and make it bad for everyone else. It’s just a matter of time.

[Gem_in_i]

Is Anands raise their fry chicken price. From $25 to $27 to $30 for 2 piece and fries.

[Dohplaydat]

Little by little, Trinis are opening back the country on their own. They are taking these little inches here and there and being extremely cautious about it. Their fellow countrymen are even complying and working together. I like this.

Lets not forget the inevitable. That same inch allyuh taking to make ends meet, remember allyuh Trinis love to fight down eachother, somebody will want to take a mile and make it bad for everyone else. It’s just a matter of time.

To be fair, many places in the world are doing this including in the US. My cousin said many businesses are unofficially 'open', and will pull down shutters and turn off lights when police patrols are approaching (using watchmen to warn them).

Many will take clients privately by appointment. Many are doing so in Trinidad already.

[MaxPower]

To be fair, many places in the world are doing this including in the US. My cousin said many businesses are unofficially 'open', and will pull down shutters and turn off lights when police patrols are approaching (using watchmen to warn them).

Many will take clients privately by appointment. Many are doing so in Trinidad already.

All this fine and well and some people really have to work to get money to live.

Cannot expect ppl to wait around for sorry to say a measly $1500 and food card especially with jacked up pharmacy prices...or “wait it out”....”share the burden” and all that assness.

Allyuh have to worry about those who are not practicing social distancing.

[Ted_v2]

PriceSmart's fast food section was closed when I was there a couple weeks ago. La Romaine at least, dunno if all branches are.

inside the 3rd or 4th lane have a Unit where they does keep it stocked for people to purchase. It does legit have people grabbing a few boxes one time, i passed and saw a lady getting one from the worker directly and i managed to take one one time, a few mins after they were gone.