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[bluesclues]

Woman.. bullshyt someone else somewhere else. It is clear u dont know what is natural rights. And whats worse... u using a unc debate tactic of being the black pot that calls a white kettle black.

It is youuu and your web 1.0 buddies that have this insignificant and unlearned opinion of natural rights. Because u come from a modern era where you dont have access to the means by which this was all formed. U are clueless and opinionated. And that goes for all with ur silly opinion on natural rights.

U cant list the basic rights. U flip the script to natural rights and then now trying to make me list them for you??? Hahaha how could someone so ignorant be so sure of themselves. It must be a south ppl ting. Let me tell u something woman. I am way too focussed in life and have a much too powerful mind for u to confuse or tie up my brain with ur own tied up brain. When i see these attempts from humans i just think how pathetic and fake they are. Not having a pot to piss in but pretending, to bluff their way thru a debate.

End of the day. If there are no natural rights, then if u want to govern me then there better be something in it for me. Because i can govern and provide for myself just fine. Just as most men. And if u fk with that and take away my ability to provide for myself. U will need to be reminded that u bleed and have no authority over me since u are one just like me. And if the battle is in size, muscle or power of arms. Then we can go there too. Because give me liberty or give me death. U are not the boss of me. And all that jazz.

U see, a loong time ago, some people realized that u cant force man to kneel because human nature he will just wait for the right opportunity and slit ur neck or stab u in the back. the fight for leader of the wolfpack will continue thru in survival of the fittest. U as a woman probably dont even know what this means in the territorial nature of MAN, his defensive and rebellious nature. But anyway... it was discovered that better results, and peace of mind is achieved when a man AGREES to kneel thru negotiation and benefit.

As a woman, u probably identify greatly with kneeling to please more than the aggressive and violent, territorial nature of MAN!! We are monsters u know? We are just soft nowadays because we agreed to be civilized. But when talking about nature, we're talking about psychology madame. A psychology that is well known to the illuminated. A psychology that well measured in all truth for the creation of this system and not an iota be cntradictory therein. This is not the work of a single ' smart person' with a 'bright idea'. It is a creation of the greatest wisdom on earth as it pertains to achieving world peace amng all the world's tribes. And yes, the earth is still viewed and separated into tribes as they came from the ancient days.

Go back to sleep u never see come see. That goes for u and the cj.

[bluesclues]

List the basic rights. These are afforded in democracy because of natural rights. They arent one and the same entirely. It is a philosophy with great depth which manifests into the basic rights. It is only that since democracy functions on the root philosophy of natural rights that those cannot be denied either within democracy. Natural rights are instinctive behaviours that permeate way back into caveman and pre-neanderthal periods. Even to when we may have been considered animals. Before we can take one step past that, u have to convince me not to kill you for stepping foot in my territory. That is the history.

Ppl like u take too much for granted. Living in a priviledged world which is all the creation of what i will refer to as 'the powers'. Not the church as u think it is solely. Tho the church did administer it, it is not the originator of the system. The system was taught to the church and the church taught it to you when u were still scavenging in the mud for potatoes as ur most major concern in life.

Now u want to come and play excelsior.

The problems faced in trinidad's democracy have much less to do with criminal caseload, than it does corrupt individuals in positions of authority and the government's lack of legislating to block corrupt practices and provide accountability. Thus, government is creating and breeding criminals to come out there and kidnap and kill you. As it wastes all your gdp contributions and taxpaying dollars in failed investments, steals your jobs and robs u of purchasing power, threatens to put you out on the street and leaves you with no means to successfully provide for yourself and yur family, when u would have done just fine hunting in the forest for food and living off the fat of the land.

Nature is the cause of trinidad's criminality. Because when u let ppl slip through the cracks, or neglect them, they revert to primal instinct. Thus hear what i say. Every leader of this country will be held accountable to God, for every murder, rape and kidnapping that occurs under his/her tenure!


Put things in place to prevent ppl from turning to crime and the caseload will slowdown. That is what ur there for. To breed prosperity among the people of the nation. Not urselves.

[desifemlove]

I define basic rights as in the right to property, the right to vote, the right to do business, the right to speak freely with imprisonment, make basic life choices like how to work or where to work, etc. these are all human-defined, not from your church or wherever.

i contend there are no natural rights, any rights we have in society are those that humanity creates. if rights means things that promote or limit action (don't steal, don't kill, don't enslave, don't rape, don't deny property ownership), only humans invented these things.

This opinion clearly bothers you, but cool. I like how supposedly learned people on a website don't like to discuss, but like to push their own subjective beliefs as an absolute fact.

[bluesclues]

I define basic rights as in the right to property, the right to vote, the right to do business, the right to speak freely with imprisonment, make basic life choices like how to work or where to work, etc. these are all human-defined, not from your church or wherever.

i contend there are no natural rights, any rights we have in society are those that humanity creates. if rights means things that promote or limit action (don't steal, don't kill, don't enslave, don't rape, don't deny property ownership), only humans invented these things.

This opinion clearly bothers you, but cool. I like how supposedly learned people on a website don't like to discuss, but like to push their own subjective beliefs as an absolute fact.

U are lost madame. U are not even talking about rights. Funnily i already stated a few of the basic rights but u were not clever enough to recognize them

The right to property? So all the vagrant on the street have a right to go and claim a lot of land somewhere and get the deed and all paperwork from the state then?

The right to vote? Does this apply too pisoners in lockup too. Do we let them out to hit the polls on election day?

The right to speak freely 'without' imprisonment is a subjunctive right which falls under 'Freedom'. This embodies and includes all the basic freedoms..
Freedom of expression
Freedom to practice religion
Freedom to practice trade and business etc. Because democracy functions with capitalism and is meant to replace survival of the fittest by distributing resources. Thus if u are going to be regulating things like hunting seasons etc u had better have something in place for me to survive while i cannot hunt. Or i may just go into the forest live and hunt anyway.. claiming natural rights of a natural living man, as long as i dont leave the forest to interface with civilization.


U have mixed up everything. The 'rights' as u call it that are given by the state or by humans as you put it are not natural rights. Man did not create nature. Nature created man and programmed him with inherent nature known as instinctive behaviours. It is a mastered psychological science. For example,

If you run a country to the ground and make 50-75% of the population unemployed, mass riots and looting will occur from otherwise, and always have been, law abiding citizens. 1+1=2. U dont understand nature. U just dont understand what ur talking about. There is no way u can absorb all that i have studied on this topic for many years and books in this discussion. It is like trying to explain the whole world of everything to a 6 yr old.

Man has not let go of his nature and never will. It is the primary driving source of survival. I doubt u can promote survival of the fittest while denying others the right to come and kill you to take your position. Or deny them use of any of their basal instinctive reactions to a situation that threatens their survival. The reason i have and will attack u hard and shyt you up is because of your provocation in suggesting that i kneel to someone who AT MOST, can only be my equal. Fk that i speak the truth i kill u first or die trying. This is alpha. The dominant survival instinct of a man. I will not bend over. I will not come with you by force. But as u slip.. i will offs you, and resume my peaceful freedom under no unfair subjucation. U simply will not get it. U are a woman. The only time u understand it, is when someone is accosting u and it takes a man's power and instinct to jump in the fight and use all his lightspeed fighting instincts in a violent altercation. U must understand.... this level of violence lays within every man. The reason the majority of civilized men dont carry about themselves this way is merely... i stresss... merely... because we have it subdued while we are at peace. And no man can be at peace if those things necessary for his survival or spiritual growth are restricted.

Just because u dont believe in God, or the spirit of life and breath, doesnt mean that these things dont dominate our world. I would never agree with you on this. Ever. Because i know better. But you... u can agree with me when u become educated on the topic enough. But trust me... i can see where u are in your study from here. U have 1 iota and u cant even make full sense of it. U have only just begun. This is hardly the fight u need to be trying to fight as such a weak soldier. U make urself appear foolish as probably everyone can see that ur struggling. And much too soft. Again, because u are NOT SURE! u are a pawn in a knight's mission.

This is how these rights have been enstated, and this is how they will be defended. Voraciously. Ferciously. And when all fails and tyrrany still somehow manages to take hold. The tyrrants will be murdered in their sleep. Because theyve created a system that favours the strong, little known to them, they may not be the strongest.

Just rest it desi.. u dont understand.

In closing i will say. It is a man's world. The system has favoured men in its creation because it is man that leads the chart in violent attributes. The system is designed to calm 'man' down and turn him away from being a beast as he once was. Because if we didnt have a way to make peace and agreement amongst ourselves. This earth would be war down to the last living man like highlander. We dont think like u women. We are very opposite indeed. U need us when a bandit hold u in a neck lock because 'thats what we do'. If a bandit hold a man in a neck lock he dont look around for a woman to help him. A system designed to promote peace among all men and their cultures, which respects beliefs and pursues no provocation is the ONLY way societal order can be maintained.

We try. While a woman may use other persuasive options at her disposal to gain agreement. What happens when the man ignores her persuasions? And fights her just as she were another man? What will she do then? Especially when she's entered a man's arena expecting sympathy for being a woman or to be underestimated into being given the advantage.

It doesnt work that way. U cannot expect all men to kneel.

Vox populi, Vox Dei

The voice of the people is the voice of God.

Thus in the courtroom, the Jury... IS GOD!

Ps.. in case u missed it. The basic rights are the RIGHT to FREEDOM and the RIGHT to LIFE! These rights cannot be taken away by any man and must be taken away by God for them to stick. Thus... see vox populi....

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